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And now that we
have finished the
novel, let’s look at
how painters tell a
similar story as Tim
O’Brien.
Discuss the placement of the American soldiers in the painting.

What does this drawing say about America? About patriotism?
“”Minh”
A common first &
middle name of
Vietnamese people.
Ho Chi Minh was
president of North
Vietnam.

•What is the effect of
the deep blue
background?

•Connect this image
to O’Brien’s depiction
of the Vietnamese
people in his novel.
What connections to The Things They Carried can you
see in this photo? Address color, body language, and
physical placement of the soldiers.
And of Vietnam today?

Let’s examine the National
Memorial in Washington, D.C.

But first, remember the WWII
Memorial? What did we say
about its color? Light?
Shape?
From TIME, Nov. 9, 1981

An eloquently simple design for Washington's Mall draws fire. Though Viet Nam
veterans never got big parades, by next year they should at least be able to
dedicate a memorial to their fallen comrades. But as with so much else touched
by that tragic war, the memorial's eloquently understated design is stirring
controversy. Designated for a site on two acres of gently rolling park land on
Washington's Mall, the monument will consist of two black granite walls that meet
in a V and recede into the ground. One critic, Viet Nam Veteran Tom Carhart,
calls it "a black gash of shame." The National Review labels it "Orwellian glop.”

The winning design, picked from among 1,421 entries last May in a national
competition, was submitted by a Chinese American, Maya Ying Lin, 22. "I've
studied funerary architecture, the relation of architecture to death," says Lin. She
has pointed the 200-ft.-long walls of her memorial west to the Lincoln Memorial
and east to the Washington Monument. On those walls will be listed the names of
the 57,709 Americans who died or were declared missing in Viet Nam. The
names will appear in chronological, not alphabetical, order (another source of
criticism). The roll begins on the right wall, with the name of the first American
killed in Viet Nam, in 1961. It continues on the left and ends with the year 1975.
Thus the first and last to die meet in the center and, as Lin puts it, "the war is
'complete,' coming full circle."
What does this painting suggest about the purpose of the Memorial?
. . . . That simplicity disturbs those who want a more assertive
memorial. The National Review, calling for a sculpture, sees the
black granite, sunken walls and unalphabetical roster as a
conspiracy to dishonor the dead. Carhart, a Purple Heart winner
who lost out in the design competition (he proposed a statue of
an officer ' offering a dead soldier heavenward) says the jury
should have consisted of war veterans, as if a beauty contest
should be judged only by beauties.

However heated the criticism has been of the Viet Nam veterans'
dark chevron, it has been tepid compared with the storms that
have raged over other public monuments . . . .

Those bothered by abstract design might consider that grand
obelisk, the Washington Monument. We have come to love it.
Some day the Viet Nam memorial, too, may win the hearts and
minds of the American people.
Today, the Vietnam War Memorial is the
most visited memorial in our nation’s
capital. Why, do you think?

Consider both the artistic components of
the memorial and what you learned
about the war through The Things They
Carried.

Why do you think people underestimated
the future popularity of this memorial?

Answer these questions in a 1-
paragraph response.

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Vietnam memorialart

  • 1. And now that we have finished the novel, let’s look at how painters tell a similar story as Tim O’Brien.
  • 2. Discuss the placement of the American soldiers in the painting. What does this drawing say about America? About patriotism?
  • 3. “”Minh” A common first & middle name of Vietnamese people. Ho Chi Minh was president of North Vietnam. •What is the effect of the deep blue background? •Connect this image to O’Brien’s depiction of the Vietnamese people in his novel.
  • 4. What connections to The Things They Carried can you see in this photo? Address color, body language, and physical placement of the soldiers.
  • 5. And of Vietnam today? Let’s examine the National Memorial in Washington, D.C. But first, remember the WWII Memorial? What did we say about its color? Light? Shape?
  • 6.
  • 7. From TIME, Nov. 9, 1981 An eloquently simple design for Washington's Mall draws fire. Though Viet Nam veterans never got big parades, by next year they should at least be able to dedicate a memorial to their fallen comrades. But as with so much else touched by that tragic war, the memorial's eloquently understated design is stirring controversy. Designated for a site on two acres of gently rolling park land on Washington's Mall, the monument will consist of two black granite walls that meet in a V and recede into the ground. One critic, Viet Nam Veteran Tom Carhart, calls it "a black gash of shame." The National Review labels it "Orwellian glop.” The winning design, picked from among 1,421 entries last May in a national competition, was submitted by a Chinese American, Maya Ying Lin, 22. "I've studied funerary architecture, the relation of architecture to death," says Lin. She has pointed the 200-ft.-long walls of her memorial west to the Lincoln Memorial and east to the Washington Monument. On those walls will be listed the names of the 57,709 Americans who died or were declared missing in Viet Nam. The names will appear in chronological, not alphabetical, order (another source of criticism). The roll begins on the right wall, with the name of the first American killed in Viet Nam, in 1961. It continues on the left and ends with the year 1975. Thus the first and last to die meet in the center and, as Lin puts it, "the war is 'complete,' coming full circle."
  • 8.
  • 9.
  • 10.
  • 11.
  • 12.
  • 13.
  • 14. What does this painting suggest about the purpose of the Memorial?
  • 15.
  • 16. . . . . That simplicity disturbs those who want a more assertive memorial. The National Review, calling for a sculpture, sees the black granite, sunken walls and unalphabetical roster as a conspiracy to dishonor the dead. Carhart, a Purple Heart winner who lost out in the design competition (he proposed a statue of an officer ' offering a dead soldier heavenward) says the jury should have consisted of war veterans, as if a beauty contest should be judged only by beauties. However heated the criticism has been of the Viet Nam veterans' dark chevron, it has been tepid compared with the storms that have raged over other public monuments . . . . Those bothered by abstract design might consider that grand obelisk, the Washington Monument. We have come to love it. Some day the Viet Nam memorial, too, may win the hearts and minds of the American people.
  • 17. Today, the Vietnam War Memorial is the most visited memorial in our nation’s capital. Why, do you think? Consider both the artistic components of the memorial and what you learned about the war through The Things They Carried. Why do you think people underestimated the future popularity of this memorial? Answer these questions in a 1- paragraph response.

Editor's Notes

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