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Why ledge on the CLK for SLI
interface?
Compliance Engineering
June 4th , 2008
12/7/2013

1
What is SLI?

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Problem Statement

Large clock dispersion causing failure of SLI

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DDR1-266/333 DQS example
DQS is single-ended 90-deg phase shifted w.r.to DQ

– DQ/DQS Status-• DQ/DQS crosstalk problem: Multiple curves of DQS coz
of the DQ coupling & PDN around it (even, odd, or stayH/L)
– Sims and Lab data confirms problem
– Fix identified—more spacing for DQS and maybe
guardbands—impact to brd routing constraints
Below Threshold
Passing
Marginal
DDR266
DDR333

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WR Eye Diagram – DQ58
BGRVP: FabB201#251, HiZo; MCH: A0-SS, 2.30v, 90’c; BIOS:14; DDR333
DIMM0/1= Samsung x8DS / Hyunix x8DS (2.30v, RT); S/W: MARS

Robust data window:
0.91 + 0.94 = 1.85ns
DQ58: odd

DQ58: odd

DQ58: even

DQ58: even

Jedec
VIH
Vref=1.15v
VIL

tDS+tDH=1.60+0.94=2.54ns tDS+tDH=1.50+1.13=2.63ns tDS+tDH=1.23+1.35=2.58ns tDS+tDH=0.91+1.51=2.42ns

Intel

V:200mv H:500ps

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Three sets of curves for DQS showing such
even/odd/stay-H/L cases on DQS signal

5
DDR1-400 Example showing same three-sets of
curves with even/odd/stay-H/L activity on DQ
bus

Rs-DIMM=22-ohms

Ls-DIMM=8nH

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SLI interface similarity with DDR1
interface

Clock signal SLI interface behaves similarly to DDR1 DQS that is also
single-ended and also phase-shifted w.r.to DQ signals surrounding it
Both x-talk and PDN spreads the waveform as seen in the scope
capture: it is a claim
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What about the layout?

12/7/2013

Looking @ the clock signal: it is also surrounded by DQ signals,
depends on the activity on DQ: even, vs. odd, vs. stay-H/L, we see
such spread of Clock signal waveform: it is both X-talk and PDN
impact.

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Claim is: The spread happening on the Clock
signal is caused by the even/odd/stay-H/L
activity on DQ signals: How to prove it?
• Sims: Extract using ADS the clock signal along
with the DQ signals surrounding it, then
simulate the clock phase-shifted and prove
the spread of the clock waveforms as in the
lab capture
• Lab: using MODS, control the data pattern and
active-bits around the clock to see the impact
of even/odd/stay-H/L activity on the clock
signal
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If the Claim is true: what is the
proposed soln space?
• Use Guard-band traces around the clock to
support reduced x-talk as well as improved PD
isolation for the clock
• Require GND-stitching every 1” of the guardband trace.

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10
Post-Layout Sims for testing the
claim that x-talk+PDN are causing
such spread in waveform of CLK for
SLI interface

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SLI sims on P729-B02
Simulated nets:)P 729-B02
• odd-ports @ connector side, even-ports @ chip side
–
–
–
–
–
–
–
–
–

MIOB_CLKOUT: P1-P2
D_13: P3-P4
D_14: P5-P6
D_3: P7-P8
D_4: P9-P10
D_5: P11-P12
D_6: P13-P14
D_7: P15-P16
D_8: P17-P18
Insertion Loss

-3dB @ 970MHz
NEXT w.r.to CLKOUT

-15dB @ 1GHz of NEXT w.r.to CLKOUT
FEXT w.r.to CLKOUT

-17dB for FEXT @ 1GHz
Why NEXT is max for P2-to-P4?

P2

P4

Two vias coupling maximize the x-talk between P2-to-P4
We should move the GND via in between signal vias
Why NEXT is max for P2-to-P4?, Cntd.

Two vias coupling maximize the x-talk between P2-to-P4
Why NEXT is max for P2-to-P16?

Wrong-clock pad causes extra coupling with P16
Why NEXT is max for P2-to-P16?

Wrong-clock pad causes extra coupling with P16
Even on P977 Wrong Clock-pad!!!

Wrong-clock pad causes extra coupling with P16
Summary and Proposed Solution

Correlation
Transistor model

Moment-Method

lLab Capture

> 250mV
improvement

Guard-band

Adding Guard-band to clock on Flex causes successful operation
of the SLI interface

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SLI flex cable_analysis

  • 1. Why ledge on the CLK for SLI interface? Compliance Engineering June 4th , 2008 12/7/2013 1
  • 3. Problem Statement Large clock dispersion causing failure of SLI 12/7/2013 3
  • 4. DDR1-266/333 DQS example DQS is single-ended 90-deg phase shifted w.r.to DQ – DQ/DQS Status-• DQ/DQS crosstalk problem: Multiple curves of DQS coz of the DQ coupling & PDN around it (even, odd, or stayH/L) – Sims and Lab data confirms problem – Fix identified—more spacing for DQS and maybe guardbands—impact to brd routing constraints Below Threshold Passing Marginal DDR266 DDR333 12/7/2013 Page 4
  • 5. WR Eye Diagram – DQ58 BGRVP: FabB201#251, HiZo; MCH: A0-SS, 2.30v, 90’c; BIOS:14; DDR333 DIMM0/1= Samsung x8DS / Hyunix x8DS (2.30v, RT); S/W: MARS Robust data window: 0.91 + 0.94 = 1.85ns DQ58: odd DQ58: odd DQ58: even DQ58: even Jedec VIH Vref=1.15v VIL tDS+tDH=1.60+0.94=2.54ns tDS+tDH=1.50+1.13=2.63ns tDS+tDH=1.23+1.35=2.58ns tDS+tDH=0.91+1.51=2.42ns Intel V:200mv H:500ps 12/7/2013 Page 5 Three sets of curves for DQS showing such even/odd/stay-H/L cases on DQS signal 5
  • 6. DDR1-400 Example showing same three-sets of curves with even/odd/stay-H/L activity on DQ bus Rs-DIMM=22-ohms Ls-DIMM=8nH 12/7/2013 6
  • 7. SLI interface similarity with DDR1 interface Clock signal SLI interface behaves similarly to DDR1 DQS that is also single-ended and also phase-shifted w.r.to DQ signals surrounding it Both x-talk and PDN spreads the waveform as seen in the scope capture: it is a claim 12/7/2013 7
  • 8. What about the layout? 12/7/2013 Looking @ the clock signal: it is also surrounded by DQ signals, depends on the activity on DQ: even, vs. odd, vs. stay-H/L, we see such spread of Clock signal waveform: it is both X-talk and PDN impact. 8
  • 9. Claim is: The spread happening on the Clock signal is caused by the even/odd/stay-H/L activity on DQ signals: How to prove it? • Sims: Extract using ADS the clock signal along with the DQ signals surrounding it, then simulate the clock phase-shifted and prove the spread of the clock waveforms as in the lab capture • Lab: using MODS, control the data pattern and active-bits around the clock to see the impact of even/odd/stay-H/L activity on the clock signal 12/7/2013 9
  • 10. If the Claim is true: what is the proposed soln space? • Use Guard-band traces around the clock to support reduced x-talk as well as improved PD isolation for the clock • Require GND-stitching every 1” of the guardband trace. 12/7/2013 10
  • 11. Post-Layout Sims for testing the claim that x-talk+PDN are causing such spread in waveform of CLK for SLI interface 12/7/2013 11
  • 12. SLI sims on P729-B02
  • 13. Simulated nets:)P 729-B02 • odd-ports @ connector side, even-ports @ chip side – – – – – – – – – MIOB_CLKOUT: P1-P2 D_13: P3-P4 D_14: P5-P6 D_3: P7-P8 D_4: P9-P10 D_5: P11-P12 D_6: P13-P14 D_7: P15-P16 D_8: P17-P18
  • 15. NEXT w.r.to CLKOUT -15dB @ 1GHz of NEXT w.r.to CLKOUT
  • 16. FEXT w.r.to CLKOUT -17dB for FEXT @ 1GHz
  • 17. Why NEXT is max for P2-to-P4? P2 P4 Two vias coupling maximize the x-talk between P2-to-P4 We should move the GND via in between signal vias
  • 18. Why NEXT is max for P2-to-P4?, Cntd. Two vias coupling maximize the x-talk between P2-to-P4
  • 19. Why NEXT is max for P2-to-P16? Wrong-clock pad causes extra coupling with P16
  • 20. Why NEXT is max for P2-to-P16? Wrong-clock pad causes extra coupling with P16
  • 21. Even on P977 Wrong Clock-pad!!! Wrong-clock pad causes extra coupling with P16
  • 22. Summary and Proposed Solution Correlation Transistor model Moment-Method lLab Capture > 250mV improvement Guard-band Adding Guard-band to clock on Flex causes successful operation of the SLI interface