Panel D: Reimagining Innovative Access to Innovative Therapies, including Rare Disease Drugs
Moderator: Bill Dempster, 3Sixty Public Affairs
Panelists: Brent Fraser, CADTH; Aidan Hollis, University of Calgary; Fred Horne, Horne & Associates; Dylan Lamb-Palmer, PDCI Market Access; Andrea Souchen; Sobi, John Moore, AdamEzra Corporation
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1. Key problems for pricing
• What guidance do companies have, if price exceeds standard cost-
effectiveness threshold?
• When clinical trial data is inadequate, is there a role for pay for
performance?
2. A price negotiation strategy
G. Kent Fellows, Daniel J.
Dutton and Aidan Hollis.
“Making Sure Orphan
Drugs don’t get Left
Behind” University of
Calgary School of Public
Policy Communiqué 10:6,
August 2018.
Fellows, GK, and A. Hollis,
“Funding innovation for
treatment for rare
diseases: adopting a cost-
based yardstick
approach.” Orphanet
Journal of Rare Diseases
2013, 8:180.
Hollis, Aidan, “Drugs for
Rare Diseases: Paying for
Innovation” in Health
Services Restructuring in
Canada: New Evidence
and New Directions,
Charles Beach (ed.)
McGill-Queen's
University Press, 2006,
pp. 155-177.
Is price justified by the
cost of supply?
3. 1. Yardstick pricing
• Price is set according to estimated cost of production plus the industry
average cost of product development and other required fixed costs.
• Eg: cost of production may be $5,000 per patient per year, specific to
product
• Average cost of product development: Assume US$2bn
• Amortized cost per year over 10 years of exclusivity is about $300m per year
• Canada’s income share among OECD countries is 3%
• So Canada’s share of the $300m is $9m per year
• With 100 patients in Canada, this implies about US$90,000 (C$120,000) per patient
per year is reasonable compensation for the company’s development costs.
• With 500 patients in Canada, C$24,000 per patient is enough to pay for development
costs è total price closer to $30,000 per patient per year
4. 2. More use of pay for performance
• Many patients who have tried a high-priced drug express a conviction
that it worked for them.
• Patient LZ in recent G&M article: “her health has improved dramatically since
she started taking Orkambi two years ago”
• But the provinces tend to rely on clinical trial results, which do not
fully capture individual results, especially because the natural history
of disease is poorly understood and the trials are small.
• We need to have more willingness to try drugs for individuals with
rare diseases, and to make continuing insurance coverage dependent
on successful outcomes.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-committee-recommends-against-funding-250000-a-year-orkambi-cystic/
13. A New Approach To The Access
And Funding For
Rare Disease Medications And
Treatment
14. Formation and Participants
• The plan we propose will require collaboration between all
stakeholders who have historically not worked well together
and will require all parties to be willing to give something up
to create an approach that would be in everyone’s best
interest in the long-term.
• Utilize the talents and experience of the experts in the field
of each, and all, rare disorders in all the stakeholders who
deal in this area. Such a regime would be solely focused on
the patients.
15. Formation and Participants
• Collaborative organization of all stakeholders in providing treatment, paying,
patients, and manufacturers of medicines and other devices for rare disorders.
• Jointly funded by the private payers (employers/employees), government and
business.
• Established initially only for drugs for rare disorders.
• Funding is not all new money but utilizes funds currently spent through other
means.
• Manufacturers would contribute, through providing some guarantee of efficacy
for each patient through tests of effectiveness, funding initial treatment plans
and patient assistance programs.
• As funds are accumulated, surpluses developed over actuarily required target
funding and margin, could be used to fund R&D for medications for rare
disorders.
16. Structure
• The Plan would be administered by a Board made up of stakeholders
impacted by treatment, distribution, and payment of medications for rare
disorders. Members could include:
• Pubic Payers, Provincial/Territorial government representative
• Health Canada
• Private payers’ representative e.g. Canadian Life and Health Insurance Association
(CLHIA)
• Patients’ representative e.g. Canadian Organization for Rare Diseases (CORD)
• Employers’ representative e.g. Chamber of Commerce either the provincial bodies
collectively (e.g. Chamber Insurance Corporation) or the National Association.
• Prescriber’s representative e.g. Canadian Medical Association (CMA)
• Dispensers’ representative e.g. Canadian Pharmacists Association (CPA)
17. Structure
The Board would have an advisory committee that would include manufacturers,
regulators, actuarial support and an investment arm, that would provide advice on
procedures, new medicines and the true efficacy of these therapies, aid in negotiations
for pricing, etc.
• Patented Medicine Prices Review Board (PMPRB)
• Canadian Agency for Drugs and Technologies in Health (CADTH), Institut national
d’excellence en santé et en services sociaux (INNESS)
• Innovative Medicines Canada (IMC), Biotech Canada, Canadian Generic
Pharmaceutical Association (CGPA)
• Investment eg. CPP Investment Board (using the economies of scale and a proven
record of sound investment, could manage funds received if agreed to by them.)
• Actuaries and Accountants as required
• Other professionals required to help in the determination of criteria for receiving
treatment, access, on/off requirements and efficacy of a drug etc. paid for by this
regime.
18. Innovation
We need to think, act and work differently if we want a
better outcome that in essence uses the cumulative
expertise of prescribers, patient organizations, payers,
manufacturers and others, to the ultimate outcome we
are all focused on:
THE PATIENT
19. A New Approach To The Access
And Funding For
Rare Disease Medications And
Treatment
20. Formation and Participants
• The plan we propose will require collaboration between all
stakeholders who have historically not worked well together
and will require all parties to be willing to give something up
to create an approach that would be in everyone’s best
interest in the long-term.
• Utilize the talents and experience of the experts in the field
of each, and all, rare disorders in all the stakeholders who
deal in this area. Such a regime would be solely focused on
the patients.
21. Formation and Participants
• Collaborative organization of all stakeholders in providing treatment, paying,
patients, and manufacturers of medicines and other devices for rare disorders.
• Jointly funded by the private payers (employers/employees), government and
business.
• Established initially only for drugs for rare disorders.
• Funding is not all new money but utilizes funds currently spent through other
means.
• Manufacturers would contribute, through providing some guarantee of efficacy
for each patient through tests of effectiveness, funding initial treatment plans
and patient assistance programs.
• As funds are accumulated, surpluses developed over actuarily required target
funding and margin, could be used to fund R&D for medications for rare
disorders.
22. Structure
• The Plan would be administered by a Board made up of stakeholders
impacted by treatment, distribution, and payment of medications for rare
disorders. Members could include:
• Pubic Payers, Provincial/Territorial government representative
• Health Canada
• Private payers’ representative e.g. Canadian Life and Health Insurance Association
(CLHIA)
• Patients’ representative e.g. Canadian Organization for Rare Diseases (CORD)
• Employers’ representative e.g. Chamber of Commerce either the provincial bodies
collectively (e.g. Chamber Insurance Corporation) or the National Association.
• Prescriber’s representative e.g. Canadian Medical Association (CMA)
• Dispensers’ representative e.g. Canadian Pharmacists Association (CPA)
23. Structure
The Board would have an advisory committee that would include manufacturers,
regulators, actuarial support and an investment arm, that would provide advice on
procedures, new medicines and the true efficacy of these therapies, aid in negotiations
for pricing, etc.
• Patented Medicine Prices Review Board (PMPRB)
• Canadian Agency for Drugs and Technologies in Health (CADTH), Institut national
d’excellence en santé et en services sociaux (INNESS)
• Innovative Medicines Canada (IMC), Biotech Canada, Canadian Generic
Pharmaceutical Association (CGPA)
• Investment eg. CPP Investment Board (using the economies of scale and a proven
record of sound investment, could manage funds received if agreed to by them.)
• Actuaries and Accountants as required
• Other professionals required to help in the determination of criteria for receiving
treatment, access, on/off requirements and efficacy of a drug etc. paid for by this
regime.
24. Innovation
We need to think, act and work differently if we want a
better outcome that in essence uses the cumulative
expertise of prescribers, patient organizations, payers,
manufacturers and others, to the ultimate outcome we
are all focused on:
THE PATIENT
25.
26. Key problems for pricing
• What guidance do companies have, if price exceeds standard cost-
effectiveness threshold?
• When clinical trial data is inadequate, is there a role for pay for
performance?
27. A price negotiation strategy
G. Kent Fellows, Daniel J.
Dutton and Aidan Hollis.
“Making Sure Orphan
Drugs don’t get Left
Behind” University of
Calgary School of Public
Policy Communiqué 10:6,
August 2018.
Fellows, GK, and A. Hollis,
“Funding innovation for
treatment for rare
diseases: adopting a cost-
based yardstick
approach.” Orphanet
Journal of Rare Diseases
2013, 8:180.
Hollis, Aidan, “Drugs for
Rare Diseases: Paying for
Innovation” in Health
Services Restructuring in
Canada: New Evidence
and New Directions,
Charles Beach (ed.)
McGill-Queen's
University Press, 2006,
pp. 155-177.
Is price justified by the
cost of supply?
28. 1. Yardstick pricing
• Price is set according to estimated cost of production plus the industry
average cost of product development and other required fixed costs.
• Eg: cost of production may be $5,000 per patient per year, specific to
product
• Average cost of product development: Assume US$2bn
• Amortized cost per year over 10 years of exclusivity is about $300m per year
• Canada’s income share among OECD countries is 3%
• So Canada’s share of the $300m is $9m per year
• With 100 patients in Canada, this implies about US$90,000 (C$120,000) per patient
per year is reasonable compensation for the company’s development costs.
• With 500 patients in Canada, C$24,000 per patient is enough to pay for development
costs è total price closer to $30,000 per patient per year
29. 2. More use of pay for performance
• Many patients who have tried a high-priced drug express a conviction
that it worked for them.
• Patient LZ in recent G&M article: “her health has improved dramatically since
she started taking Orkambi two years ago”
• But the provinces tend to rely on clinical trial results, which do not
fully capture individual results, especially because the natural history
of disease is poorly understood and the trials are small.
• We need to have more willingness to try drugs for individuals with
rare diseases, and to make continuing insurance coverage dependent
on successful outcomes.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-committee-recommends-against-funding-250000-a-year-orkambi-cystic/