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How a conflict changes the way 
how people behave on Fandoms 
An investigation of Shipper’s Fight in 
Facebook groups 
Cleyton Souza¹³, André Rolim¹4, Jonathas Magalhães¹³, 
Evandro Costa¹³, Joseana Fechine¹, and Nazareno Andrade² 
LIA-UFCG¹, LSI-UFCG², TIPS-UFAL³, IFPB4 
Brazil
Schedule 
• Introduction 
• Methodology 
• Understanding Shippers Fight 
• The Role of the Virtual Space in Shipper’s 
Conflict 
• Conclusion and Future Work 
Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 2
Introduction 
• How a conflict changes the way how people 
behave on Fandoms 
– Fandom = Kingdom of Fans 
• How I Met Your Mother [Brazil] 
– It is a Facebook group with 15k members 
– It reunites fans of the TV show How I Met Your Mother 
Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 3
Context (Spoiler Alert!) 
• How I Met Your Mother 
– It is an American sitcom 
– It ended in 2014, with 
nine seasons 
– Story: 
• Ted (a narrator from the 
future - 2030) is telling his 
kids how he met their 
mother 
• The story starts in 2005 
• “The mother’’ only appears 
in the last season (2014) 
Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 4
Introduction 
• How a conflict changes the way how people 
behave on Fandoms 
– Fandom = Kingdom of Fans 
• How I Met Your Mother [Brazil] 
• A investigation of Shipper’s Fight in Facebook 
groups 
– What is a Shipper? 
• Shipper ≈ Relationship 
– Fans of couples 
Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 5
Context 
“Mosbatsky” prefer Robin&Ted “Swarkles” prefer Robin&Barney 
Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 6
Introduction 
• Our analysis focuses on mainly understanding 
– Why Do people feel motivate to discuss about 
fictional couples? 
– How Do this discussions affect the members’ 
behavior? 
– What is the role of the group architecture in these 
discussions? 
Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 7
Methodology 
• This is a mixed research presenting a 
constructive point of view 
• The research method is called privileged 
ethnographic or “aca-fen” 
• We used three sources of data 
– 25 Posts from the group 
– Interviews with 10 members (5 ♀ 5 ♂) 
– Google questionnaire answered by 403 members 
Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 8
People who answered our 
questionnaire (1) 
Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 9
People who answered our 
questionnaire (2) 
Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 10
People who answered our 
questionnaire (3) 
Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 11
People who answered our 
questionnaire (3) 
Awareness of the Conflict × Time in the Group 
Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 12
Understanding Shippers Fight 
• How I Met Your Mother [Brazil] has 
collectively decided rules. 
– There were request to make Shipper’s discussion 
forbidden. 
– 65% of respondents believe that Shipper’s 
discussion is a recurrent topic among the group 
activities. 
– It is notable that the Fandom is split in three main 
subgroups: Shippers of Ted and Robin, Shippers of 
Barney and Robin and Those Who Are Indifferent. 
Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 13
Understanding Shippers Fight 
Agreement Percentage about the Fandom Split 
(aggregate by favorite couple’s choice) 
Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 14
Understanding Shippers Fight 
• Why do people feel motivate to debate about 
fictional couples? 
– “–It’s something that happens in almost every 
show; Shippers struggling is common” 
– “–They talk about that because have nothing 
better to do” 
Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 15
Culture 
• “–some fans take the show to serious” 
• “–There are people who raising the flag of a 
couple and want to defend it as if it were a 
football team” 
• “–the show is a significant part of their lives” 
• “–to everyone who keeping discussing about 
fictional couples: go get a football team to 
cheer; it is well better!” 
Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 16
Identity 
• “–People identify with characters and start to 
wish their happiness; for this reason, it is common 
a feeling of transference, where they imagine 
themselves in the character place and create 
expectations about what is better to each one” 
• “–These things of prefer one or other couple have 
no argument, we simply like and we identify with 
different things. It is like everything in life” 
• “–they wish other people feel the same way” 
Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 17
Understanding Shippers Fight 
• What are the consequences of this conflict? 
– Swarkles are winning 
• “–Mobastsky team lost a long time ago” 
• “–It is like apartheid” 
– Mosbatsky avoid post content about Ted & Robin 
• “–It would be followed by a bunch of negative 
comments” 
• “–I said that I root for Ted & Robin and they scold me; I 
even left the group, but decided come back” 
Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 18
Understanding Shippers Fight 
How Swarkles are seen in the group How Mosbatsky are seen in the group 
Mosbatsky accepted a subservient role assigned by Swarkles. 
Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 19
Understanding Shippers Fight 
• Swarkles believe that, since Ted & Robin probably 
will not end up together, it is nonsense cheer for 
this couple. 
• The most interest thing is that Mosbatsky 
themselves think that way. 
• The role assigned to Mosbatsky changes their 
normative sense and makes most of them behave 
different from others members. 
– They assume that share Ted & Robin content is 
prejudicial to the good living in the group (LS, TM). 
Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 20
Why are Swarkles winning? 
• Mosbatsky are minority and see the Swarkles as a 
dominant group inside How I Met Your Mother 
[Brazil] 
• MAJORITY 
• CANON 
Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 21
The Role of the Virtual Space in 
Shipper’s Conflict 
• “Shipping” discussion is not usual outside the 
group 
– People tend to avoid conflict offline, where 
discussion and possible aggressive outcomes have 
high costs. Even more if the offline discussion 
happens with relatives or close friends. 
– In the virtual space, however, as opinions are 
broadcasted in a common space, it becomes 
harder to avoid conflict. 
Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 22
The Role of the Virtual Space in 
Shipper’s Conflict 
• The architecture of Facebook groups favors these two 
kinds of Shippers “find” themselves 
– there is a public space where users can unsupervised post 
content (video, photo or text); 
– all content published in that space is visible to everyone in 
the group; 
– people can like and comment posts, according their 
interests. 
• Mosbatsky are exposed to Swarkles content and vice 
versa. 
– The discussions happen because “some members of the 
group cannot ignore when they disagree”. 
Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 23
The Role of the Virtual Space in 
Shipper’s Conflict 
• We inquiry respondents if they believe that the 
way how Facebook groups works facilitate that 
Shippers of different couples find each other to 
discuss: 
– 92% agreed. However, when we asked if a changing in 
that way would reduce or eliminate these discussions 
from the group, 58% disagree. 
– This means that, they believe, even architecture 
having its effect, these discussions would come to 
light anyway, regardless the way how the group 
works. 
Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 24
When these discussions end 
• According interviewees, a Shipper’s discussion only 
stops when 
– It becomes too much exhausting and people get tired of 
defend their positions. 
• This begins when the discussion attracts too much attention and 
the number of people involved rises. 
• Then, comments rate start to increase together with mean size of 
comments. 
• Finally, people loose focus and change the topic to “zoeira” 
• Respondent’s answers led to the same observations; 
“get tired of discuss” (28%) followed by “change the 
topic to zoeira” (24%) were the two main reasons to 
end a discussion. 
Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 25
Conclusion and Future Work 
• This work presented a brief overview about 
phenomena that happens in a group called 
How I Met Your Mother [Brasil] 
• We observed that people change their 
behavior due a conflict with others members 
• We are studying how our observations related 
to others contexts and how they can be used 
to affect the living in the group 
Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 26
How a conflict changes the way 
how people behave on Fandoms 
An investigation of Shipper’s Fight in 
Facebook groups 
THANK YOU 
VERY MUCH!

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How a conflict changes the way how people on Fandoms

  • 1. How a conflict changes the way how people behave on Fandoms An investigation of Shipper’s Fight in Facebook groups Cleyton Souza¹³, André Rolim¹4, Jonathas Magalhães¹³, Evandro Costa¹³, Joseana Fechine¹, and Nazareno Andrade² LIA-UFCG¹, LSI-UFCG², TIPS-UFAL³, IFPB4 Brazil
  • 2. Schedule • Introduction • Methodology • Understanding Shippers Fight • The Role of the Virtual Space in Shipper’s Conflict • Conclusion and Future Work Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 2
  • 3. Introduction • How a conflict changes the way how people behave on Fandoms – Fandom = Kingdom of Fans • How I Met Your Mother [Brazil] – It is a Facebook group with 15k members – It reunites fans of the TV show How I Met Your Mother Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 3
  • 4. Context (Spoiler Alert!) • How I Met Your Mother – It is an American sitcom – It ended in 2014, with nine seasons – Story: • Ted (a narrator from the future - 2030) is telling his kids how he met their mother • The story starts in 2005 • “The mother’’ only appears in the last season (2014) Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 4
  • 5. Introduction • How a conflict changes the way how people behave on Fandoms – Fandom = Kingdom of Fans • How I Met Your Mother [Brazil] • A investigation of Shipper’s Fight in Facebook groups – What is a Shipper? • Shipper ≈ Relationship – Fans of couples Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 5
  • 6. Context “Mosbatsky” prefer Robin&Ted “Swarkles” prefer Robin&Barney Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 6
  • 7. Introduction • Our analysis focuses on mainly understanding – Why Do people feel motivate to discuss about fictional couples? – How Do this discussions affect the members’ behavior? – What is the role of the group architecture in these discussions? Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 7
  • 8. Methodology • This is a mixed research presenting a constructive point of view • The research method is called privileged ethnographic or “aca-fen” • We used three sources of data – 25 Posts from the group – Interviews with 10 members (5 ♀ 5 ♂) – Google questionnaire answered by 403 members Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 8
  • 9. People who answered our questionnaire (1) Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 9
  • 10. People who answered our questionnaire (2) Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 10
  • 11. People who answered our questionnaire (3) Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 11
  • 12. People who answered our questionnaire (3) Awareness of the Conflict × Time in the Group Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 12
  • 13. Understanding Shippers Fight • How I Met Your Mother [Brazil] has collectively decided rules. – There were request to make Shipper’s discussion forbidden. – 65% of respondents believe that Shipper’s discussion is a recurrent topic among the group activities. – It is notable that the Fandom is split in three main subgroups: Shippers of Ted and Robin, Shippers of Barney and Robin and Those Who Are Indifferent. Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 13
  • 14. Understanding Shippers Fight Agreement Percentage about the Fandom Split (aggregate by favorite couple’s choice) Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 14
  • 15. Understanding Shippers Fight • Why do people feel motivate to debate about fictional couples? – “–It’s something that happens in almost every show; Shippers struggling is common” – “–They talk about that because have nothing better to do” Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 15
  • 16. Culture • “–some fans take the show to serious” • “–There are people who raising the flag of a couple and want to defend it as if it were a football team” • “–the show is a significant part of their lives” • “–to everyone who keeping discussing about fictional couples: go get a football team to cheer; it is well better!” Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 16
  • 17. Identity • “–People identify with characters and start to wish their happiness; for this reason, it is common a feeling of transference, where they imagine themselves in the character place and create expectations about what is better to each one” • “–These things of prefer one or other couple have no argument, we simply like and we identify with different things. It is like everything in life” • “–they wish other people feel the same way” Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 17
  • 18. Understanding Shippers Fight • What are the consequences of this conflict? – Swarkles are winning • “–Mobastsky team lost a long time ago” • “–It is like apartheid” – Mosbatsky avoid post content about Ted & Robin • “–It would be followed by a bunch of negative comments” • “–I said that I root for Ted & Robin and they scold me; I even left the group, but decided come back” Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 18
  • 19. Understanding Shippers Fight How Swarkles are seen in the group How Mosbatsky are seen in the group Mosbatsky accepted a subservient role assigned by Swarkles. Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 19
  • 20. Understanding Shippers Fight • Swarkles believe that, since Ted & Robin probably will not end up together, it is nonsense cheer for this couple. • The most interest thing is that Mosbatsky themselves think that way. • The role assigned to Mosbatsky changes their normative sense and makes most of them behave different from others members. – They assume that share Ted & Robin content is prejudicial to the good living in the group (LS, TM). Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 20
  • 21. Why are Swarkles winning? • Mosbatsky are minority and see the Swarkles as a dominant group inside How I Met Your Mother [Brazil] • MAJORITY • CANON Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 21
  • 22. The Role of the Virtual Space in Shipper’s Conflict • “Shipping” discussion is not usual outside the group – People tend to avoid conflict offline, where discussion and possible aggressive outcomes have high costs. Even more if the offline discussion happens with relatives or close friends. – In the virtual space, however, as opinions are broadcasted in a common space, it becomes harder to avoid conflict. Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 22
  • 23. The Role of the Virtual Space in Shipper’s Conflict • The architecture of Facebook groups favors these two kinds of Shippers “find” themselves – there is a public space where users can unsupervised post content (video, photo or text); – all content published in that space is visible to everyone in the group; – people can like and comment posts, according their interests. • Mosbatsky are exposed to Swarkles content and vice versa. – The discussions happen because “some members of the group cannot ignore when they disagree”. Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 23
  • 24. The Role of the Virtual Space in Shipper’s Conflict • We inquiry respondents if they believe that the way how Facebook groups works facilitate that Shippers of different couples find each other to discuss: – 92% agreed. However, when we asked if a changing in that way would reduce or eliminate these discussions from the group, 58% disagree. – This means that, they believe, even architecture having its effect, these discussions would come to light anyway, regardless the way how the group works. Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 24
  • 25. When these discussions end • According interviewees, a Shipper’s discussion only stops when – It becomes too much exhausting and people get tired of defend their positions. • This begins when the discussion attracts too much attention and the number of people involved rises. • Then, comments rate start to increase together with mean size of comments. • Finally, people loose focus and change the topic to “zoeira” • Respondent’s answers led to the same observations; “get tired of discuss” (28%) followed by “change the topic to zoeira” (24%) were the two main reasons to end a discussion. Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 25
  • 26. Conclusion and Future Work • This work presented a brief overview about phenomena that happens in a group called How I Met Your Mother [Brasil] • We observed that people change their behavior due a conflict with others members • We are studying how our observations related to others contexts and how they can be used to affect the living in the group Cleyton Souza - UFCG - Brazil 26
  • 27. How a conflict changes the way how people behave on Fandoms An investigation of Shipper’s Fight in Facebook groups THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

Editor's Notes

  1. According the questionnaire data, 39% of Mosbatsky believe that Swarkles are the dominant group, 33% believe that they are dominant, and 29% believe that there is no dominant group. According the questionnaire data, 62% of Swarkles believe that they are the dominant group, 6% believe that the Mosbatsky are dominant, and 32% believe that there is no dominant group.