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DIY: Install SSD in CIC
I wanted to create a hard drive image of my CIC, to be able to restore it in the future in
Since the hard drive was out of the CIC, I figured it was a great time to upgrade to an SS
Background
The hard drive in the CIC is a Toshiba automotive grade SSD, the MK8050GAC.
https://toshiba.semicon-storage.com/...mkxx50gac.html
The only SSD I could find that was rated for automotive use (-40C - 85C) was the M
which costs ~$300 CAD for a 128GB drive.
Specs: https://www.micron.com/products/soli...tomotive-ssd#/
Price: https://www.digikey.ca/product-detai...643-ND/6135280
I decided to replace the hard drive with a name brand SSD, initially an M.2 840 EV
the adapter didn't work, with an mSATA SM841.
Requirements
1. IDE to SATA or USB adapter. I used this one: https://www.aliexpress.com
/item/New-...311.0.0.eyj7tI . I've got a spare that I can send out for the cost of sh
2. SATA to USB adapter, if you use the IDE to SATA adapter above. Something like
https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produc...SAAEgKU8fD_BwE
3. Marvell 88SA8052 mSATA adapter. These are hard to find, most of them are JMic
*do not work*
I initially tried this enclosure with a JMicron Controller and the CIC refused to recog
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You want a Marvell Controller like this one
US: Addonics - http://www.addonics.com/products/adms25ide.php
UK: Lycom - https://www.scan.co.uk/products/lyco...-ide-ssd-drive
CA: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
4. 128GB mSATA Drive: I used a used Samsung SM841. It isn't automotive grade,
drive, so should last a long time.
5. Linux UBCD - http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html . This is used to b
the hard drive.
6. QNX VM - http://www.qnx.com/download/feature....rogramid=21189
7. VMWare Player - https://my.vmware.com/en/web/vmware/...on_player/12_0
Assumptions
1. You are comfortable with installing computer hardware and software. You will ne
Linux as well as Virtual Machines. I'm doing most operatrios from Linux since it han
operations more transparently. (Windows typically tries to interfere, which can corr
2. I am running from a Linux partition, but you can run from a bootable USB, min 1
https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutoria...k-on-windows#0
3. To back up and format the partitions, you will need to boot QNX. This is easiest f
provided virtual machine.
4. I am not covering either the installation of Linux as a dual boot system, or instal
as there are many tutorials available online.
Remove the SSD
I sat in the passenger seat for all of the following:
1. Pull the trim from the left of the Start Button. You don't need to pull it completel
to be able to remove the HVAC unit below it.
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2. Remove the HVAC unit by pulling from the upper right corner. You can leave the
but I found it easier to remove the radio trim by disconnecting the three plugs.
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3. Remove the radio trim by pulling from the upper left. There is a grey cable on th
won't be able to remove it completely, but it will swing out of the way.
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4. Use a Torx 9 screwdriver to remove both screws in the front face place, and pull
on rails so it will get stuck if you don't pull it out straight.
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Back Up the Hard Drive
5. Connect the IDE->SATA Adapter, and the SATA->USB Adapter. (My USB goes int
card, to make a wonderfully long chain of adapters). Pin 1 on the adapter card goe
the jumper pins (4xPins that are slightly spaced away from the rest of them)
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6. Boot your Linux partition or USB (with at least 80 GB free) and back up the OEM
file on your PC
Code:
jagaer CIC_Drive # dd if=/dev/sdc of=CIC_Drive.img status=progress
80008954368 bytes (80 GB, 75 GiB) copied, 2944 s, 27.2 MB/s
156301488+0 records in
156301488+0 records out
80026361856 bytes (80 GB, 75 GiB) copied, 2952.03 s, 27.1 MB/s
7. Disconnect the OEM Drive and store it in a safe place. Connect your new SSD, an
file from the PC onto the SSD.
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Code:
jagaer CIC_Drive # dd if=CIC_Drive.img of=/dev/sdc bs=64k status=pr
80021094400 bytes (80 GB, 75 GiB) copied, 579.003 s, 138 MB/s
1221105+1 records in
1221105+1 records out
80026361856 bytes (80 GB, 75 GiB) copied, 810.815 s, 98.7 MB/s
8. Check to make sure the copy worked. If you run a "parted /dev/sdc" and "print"
should look like:
Code:
jagaer CIC_Drive # parted /dev/sdc
GNU Parted 3.2
Using /dev/sdc
Welcome to GNU Parted! Type 'help' to view a list of commands.
(parted) print
Model: SAMSUNG SSD SM841 mSATA (scsi)
Disk /dev/sdc: 128GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: msdos
Disk Flags:
Number Start End Size Type File system Flags
1 32.3kB 80.0GB 80.0GB extended
5 64.5kB 60.1GB 60.1GB logical
6 60.1GB 63.3GB 3150MB logical
9 66.2GB 79.9GB 13.6GB logical
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9. Put this back in your CIC and test it out. If Nav loads, you've successfully cloned
a working adapter. If you don't want to increase the media partition, you can put th
and have a drink
Set Up the QNX VM
If you do want to extend the media partition, there are a few more steps I'm doing
from the QNX Neutrino VM.
10. Download, and extract the QNX VM onto your computer. Add the QNX VM into V
using File->Open and clicking on "Neutrino650Target.vmx"
11. Boot QNX to make sure it works. Great, now shut it down.
12. Edit VM Settings, and add the UBCD to the virtual cdrom
13. To pass the SSD directly into the VM, you'll need to add new hardware. Click ad
IDE -> Use a Physical Disk
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14. If you're doing this from your Linux partition, you can find the address of the h
performing an "ls /dev/disk/by-id"
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15. Click "Use Entire Disk" then "Finish"
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16. Increase the amound of RAM for the VM to 2048MB
Back Up the Existing Information
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17. Start Up QNX. You may notice an "unable to mount qnx4" error message, this i
BMW has configured their factory HDD. Login with "root" and no password
18. Open a terminal, and check "ls /dev" for hd1t77
19. **Bonus Info** Running strings on 9283426A firmware displayed the CIC Fsta
mount point names.
20. Make mount points for partitions. I'm backing up all partitions, but you only ne
hd1t77.4 and hd1t77.5.
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Code:
mkdir hbnavi
mkdir hbcddb
mkdir hbdata
mkdir hbuser
mkdir hbmedia
mkdir hbdebug
21. Mount the partitions "mount -t qnx6 /dev/hd1t77 /root/hbnavi". If you forget t
give you a mount error - corrupted
Code:
mount -t qnx6 /dev/hd1t77 /root/hbnavi
mount -t qnx6 /dev/hd1t77.1 /root/hbcddb
mount -t qnx6 /dev/hd1t77.2 /root/hbdata
mount -t qnx6 /dev/hd1t77.3 /root/hbuser
mount -t qnx6 /dev/hd1t77.4 /root/hbmedia
mount -t qnx6 /dev/hd1t77.5 /root/hbdebug
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22. I'm saving all partitions to my NAS, so I also need to mount my shared drive
Code:
fs-cifs 192.168.1.100:/other /root/other guest none
23. You only need to save hbmedia and hbdebug, but I backed up all partitions to m
copy those two partitions back to the drive after extending the partitions. (You may
permissions" error for .boot. It is safe to ignore this error message.)
If you don't already have your 1B file, you can create it from the "data03" file from
partition
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24. Once all the directories are saved, umount all the partitions "umount /root/hbc
Code:
umount /root/hbnavi
umount /root/hbcddb
umount /root/hbdata
umount /root/hbuser
umount /root/hbmedia
umount /root/hbdebug
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25. Shut down QNX and power off the VM
Extend the Partitions
26. Boot Neutrino, hit Esc, and select option 3 (CDRom Drive). You will likely have
Black screen before you can hit Esc.
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27. Browse down to "Parted Magic", and boot default settings.
28. Look at the size of the default partitions. We need this info for later.
Code:
root@partedmagic:~# fdisk -l /dev/sdb
Disk /dev/sdb: 119.2 GiB, 128035676160 bytes, 250069680 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x6ad4b821
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Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type
/dev/sdb1 63 156296384 156296322 74.5G 5 Extended
/dev/sdb5 126 117451214 117451089 56G 4d QNX4.x
/dev/sdb6 117451278 123604109 6152832 3G 4d QNX4.x
/dev/sdb7 123604173 127025954 3421782 1.6G 4d QNX4.x
/dev/sdb8 127026018 129323249 2297232 1.1G 4d QNX4.x
/dev/sdb9 129323313 155959019 26635707 12.7G 4d QNX4.x
/dev/sdb10 155959083 156296384 337302 164.7M 4d QNX4.x
29. Open Partition Editor. Resize /dev/sdb1 to fill the entire disk.
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30. Delete /dev/sdb10 and /dev/sdb9. This is why we needed to save the informati
save it, didn't you?
31. Create a new /dev/sdb9 partition, using the following - Create as: Logical, File
unformatted, Free space following (MiB): 170, align to MiB
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32. Do the same thing for the /dev/sdb10 partition, with no free space following
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33. Click "Apply Changes"
34. Open terminal and type in "fdisk /dev/sdb". If you type "p" you'll see that the f
Id "4d" but the two new ones we created are type "83". We need to change these t
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35. Change the partition ID. Type "t", partition 9, and type 4d. Do the same thing f
Write the changes to disk by typing "w".
36. Restart back into QNX
Format and Restore Partitions
37. Format the new partitions with "mkqnx6fs /dev/hd1t77.4" and "mkqnx6fs /dev
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38. Mount the hbmedia and hbdebug partitions. I mounted them all, just to make s
was lost when I increased the size of the hbmedia partition.
Code:
mount -t qnx6 /dev/hd1t77 /root/hbnavi
mount -t qnx6 /dev/hd1t77.1 /root/hbcddb
mount -t qnx6 /dev/hd1t77.2 /root/hbdata
mount -t qnx6 /dev/hd1t77.3 /root/hbuser
mount -t qnx6 /dev/hd1t77.4 /root/hbmedia
mount -t qnx6 /dev/hd1t77.5 /root/hbdebug
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39. Mount the NAS file share where you saved your files.
Code:
fs-cifs 192.168.1.100:/other /root/other guest none
40. Copy the files from the NAS back to the HDD. You don't need to copy the .boot
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41. Unmount the partitions and shut down QNX.
Code:
umount /root/hbnavi
umount /root/hbcddb
umount /root/hbdata
umount /root/hbuser
umount /root/hbmedia
umount /root/hbdebug
Reinstall SSD
42. Reinstall the SSD back into the CIC. Before placing all trim back in place, check
Nav works - This verifies that the hbnavi partition is functioning. Then check the Me
available size. If you have more than 12GB free space, it shows as 100% free
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43. Reinstall your trim and enjoy knowing you don't have an old, spinning hard driv
you have more space for music.
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43: and that you have a backup of your CIC drive in case it ever
fails.
(Results in reboots, strange behavior from the radio, screen
shutting off while driving, etc.)
What an awesome post!
Deserves a permanent stickie.
Question: did you leave the battery connected while you did
this?
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Requirements
1. IDE to SATA or USB adapter. I used this
one: https://www.aliexpress.com
/item/New-...311.0.0.eyj7tI . I've got a
spare that I can send out for the cost of
shipping to you.
2. SATA to USB adapter, if you use the IDE
to SATA adapter above. Something like this:
https://www.newegg.ca/Product
/Produc...SAAEgKU8fD_BwE
3. Marvell 88SA8052 mSATA adapter.
You want a Marvell Controller like this one
US: Addonics -
Quote:
Question: did you leave the battery connected while you
did this?
I did leave the battery connected, in fact I didn't remove any of
the connectors either. After removing the key, it appears the CIC
headunit is still receiving power (it looks like a mainboard led is
lit), but you can hear the hard drive spin down immediately
following shutting off the car.
Unlike SATA, IDE is not hot swappable, but if the HDD is spun
down it is a good bet that the heads are parked and it is safe to
remove.
Also, QNX is designed for harsh environments, so it is quite
tough to corrupt the QNX filesystem.
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http://www.addonics.com
/products/adms25ide.php
UK: Lycom -
https://www.scan.co.uk/products
/lyco...-ide-ssd-drive
CA: https://www.amazon.ca
/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&
psc=1
4. 128GB mSATA Drive: I used a used
Samsung SM841. It isn't automotive grade,
but is a Pro-level drive, so should last a long
time.
5. Linux UBCD -
http://www.ultimatebootcd.com
/download.html . This is used to back up and
format the hard drive.
6. QNX VM - http://www.qnx.com/download
/feature....rogramid=21189
7. VMWare Player - https://my.vmware.com
/en/web/vmware/...on_player/12_0
I am bit confused with your requirements esp 1st 3. So in total I
would need 3 adapters to make this work: IDE to SATA, SATA to
USB, and mSATA??
The CIC has an IDE interface, so you need to go from SATA to
IDE, in turn if you are using an mSATA drive you need the circuit
board plus enclosure.
You can avoid both of these if you purchase an IDE SSD drive
(yes they are available) made for older laptops.
However this gives you a different problem. Your computer or
laptop is likely NEWER with no small IDE port so you'll need to
get from USB to IDE somehow, hence the third interface he lists.
I already had an IDE-USB interface thanks to a old defunct
portable USB drive, and I purchased an IDE SSD drive for this
purpose which brings me down to a simple USB cable for the
cloning.
With his list the Marvell mSATA bay is already KNOWN to work,
which is a big plus. Others report that not all IDE SSD drives
work.
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Originally Posted by W37V
I am bit confused with your requirements esp 1st 3. So
in total I would need 3 adapters to make this work: IDE
to SATA, SATA to USB, and mSATA??
opjose is correct, and I can understand your confusion.
The Zheino IDE SSD (https://www.amazon.com/Zheino-
128gb-...rds=zheino+ssd) is known to work with the BMW CIC,
but other IDE SSDs do not, such as the SuperTalent
(https://www.amazon.com/Super-Talent-...ywords=ide+ssd)
I preferred to use an mSATA SSD with mSATA-to-IDE adapter as:
1. The mSATA drive plus adapter is still cheaper than the Zheino
SSD; and
2. I have no idea if the build quality of the Zheino is any good,
but I do know that a Samsung Pro SSD is well made.
One Adapter Version: Zheino IDE SSD with an IDE to USB
Adapter: https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-
Adapte...e+to+usb&psc=1
Two Adapter Version: Marvell mSATA to IDE Adapter and the IDE
to USB Adapter above.
Three Adapter Version, as listed initially. The reason I listed the
three adapter version, is because IDE to SATA and SATA to USB
adapters are very common, but IDE to USB is a lot harder to
find.
Great post and nice write up, will have to give this a go.
I finally got around to doing this.
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It went very smoothly thanks to the guide above.
Note: I'm using an EIDE Zhenio drive.
The only snag I ran into was that I had to mount the drive on a
computer and create a partition table so the USB interface will
recognize my drive. Until then even the USB status LED on my
USB to EIDE adapter would not go green, meaning the drive is
ready.
Any table will do, but it needs something to start with.
Once done the drive was recognized by Linux and QNX and I was
off to the races.
My NAV boots up instantly now. No more delay as it comes up
after starting the car.
As soon as the key is in or I start the engine, the map appears.
amazing post
This is a great guide! Did you see any performance
improvements in loading times for apps or in navigation?
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The only speed improvements I noticed were to zooming in/out
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of the map, and navigating media. Clicking through music folders
took 1-2 seconds per folder, and now its near instant.
The real benefit to me was taking out the spinning hard drive,
and having a backup. The added space for music is a nice bonus.
Tag....
Excellent, just what I needed for after getting my retrofit finished
and system updated.
Might want to put a redirector over on the iDrive board to this
post.
Great thread and many thanks to the OP for the time and efforts.
Quote:
The only speed improvements I noticed were to zooming
in/out of the map, and navigating media. Clicking
through music folders took 1-2 seconds per folder, and
now its near instant.
The real benefit to me was taking out the spinning hard
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drive, and having a backup. The added space for music
is a nice bonus.
Are there any specs about the mSata drives that are specific for
this?
All mSATA drives work, and any newer one will have
TRIM/garbage collection.
However, consumer-grade devices like the 840 Pro I installed,
are only approved for a temperature range of 0-70C, instead of
the -30-85C range of the factory hard drive.
- 840 Pro specs: http://www.samsung.com/global
/busine..._PRO_Rev12.pdf
- MK8050GAC specs: https://toshiba.semicon-storage.com
/...mkxx50gac.html
- Recadata i6m specs: https://www.recadatassd.com/military-
ssd/msata-i6m/
I've recently purchased and replaced the 840 Pro with an
industrial SSD, Recadata i6m with an operating temperature of
-40-85C,
as the 840 Pro was exhibiting some glitches at low temperatures
of approx -35C. (https://www.amazon.com/RECADATA-
mSAT...ds=msata+128gb)
The Recadata does work, and hasn't glitched yet in the cold
weather, but I haven't had it long enough to truly recommend it.
I also wouldn't recommend the 840 Pro I originally installed due
to the low temperature glitching (Which likely means it will
exhibit similar issues at high temperatures as well). Neither of
these may affect you, depending on where you live.
The Zhenio IDE is known to work, I just didn't trust a knock-off
SSD, with questionable quality. At least the Recadata I put in is a
known producer of industrial equipment, which should mean
good reliability.
I realize this isn't overly helpful, but thought I should add
additional context.
Quote:
All mSATA drives work, and any newer one will have
TRIM/garbage collection.
However, consumer-grade devices like the 840 Pro I
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installed, are only approved for a temperature range of
0-70C, instead of the -30-85C range of the factory hard
drive.
- 840 Pro specs: http://www.samsung.com/global
/busine..._PRO_Rev12.pdf
- MK8050GAC specs: https://toshiba.semicon-
storage.com/...mkxx50gac.html
- Recadata i6m specs: https://www.recadatassd.com
/military-ssd/msata-i6m/
I've recently purchased and replaced the 840 Pro with an
industrial SSD, Recadata i6m with an operating
temperature of -40-85C,
as the 840 Pro was exhibiting some glitches at low
temperatures of approx -35C.
(https://www.amazon.com/RECADATA-
mSAT...ds=msata+128gb)
The Recadata does work, and hasn't glitched yet in the
cold weather, but I haven't had it long enough to truly
recommend it. I also wouldn't recommend the 840 Pro I
originally installed due to the low temperature glitching
(Which likely means it will exhibit similar issues at high
temperatures as well). Neither of these may affect you,
depending on where you live.
The Zhenio IDE is known to work, I just didn't trust a
knock-off SSD, with questionable quality. At least the
Recadata I put in is a known producer of industrial
equipment, which should mean good reliability.
I realize this isn't overly helpful, but thought I should
add additional context.
I don't think I will have to worry about that low of a
temperature.... lowest it's gotten here is 0F and that was a
rarity. But I'll look around. I just wanted to be able to pick up a
couple of them just in case.
Anyone tried this without Linux? Want to do this but I'm not
versed in Linux, nor do I have a linux machine or VM.
I have access to both Windows and MAC OS, don't want to screw
anything up If I undertake this.
I'm open to paying someone to do this for me if reasonable
enough.
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If you wish to expand the partitions you will need Linux and Qnx.
If you do not want to expand the partitions, you can do this with
Clonezilla under Windows or IOS.
Windows loves to write data to a new unformatted drive which
screws things up.
Your best bet is to just download Linux and create a VM as per
the instructions. Once you are done just delete the VM. No big
deal.
Everything is done via a command/shell prompt window anyway.
n2siast Everything I performed in the instruction can be done with OSX, but as opjose s
need to use the QNX VM to create the new partitions.
To make a drive image, you need an USB->IDE cable.
Your device will be different (not /dev/sdc, something like /dev/disk2), so you'll need to i
disk with
Code:
diskutil list
and look for the device that doesn't say "APPLE". Then use that device with dd to save th
disk image
Code:
dd if=CIC_Drive.img of=/dev/disk2 bs=64k status=progress
Is this something you do for someone (as in, I buy the HHD off
you)
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I finally got around to doing this.
It went very smoothly thanks to the guide above.
Note: I'm using an EIDE Zhenio drive.
The only snag I ran into was that I had to mount the
drive on a computer and create a partition table so the
USB interface will recognize my drive. Until then even
the USB status LED on my USB to EIDE adapter would
not go green, meaning the drive is ready.
Any table will do, but it needs something to start with.
Once done the drive was recognized by Linux and QNX
and I was off to the races.
My NAV boots up instantly now. No more delay as it
comes up after starting the car.
As soon as the key is in or I start the engine, the map
appears.
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