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  Clients & Pricing
   (...and a smorgasbord of other treats)




            @Joel_Hughes of
               jojet.com
thank you
...a brief history of me

• Dragon 32
• Degree in computing
• Worked for AMEX/British Airways
MicroBrain Ltd.
Journey




permie   contractor   freelancer   agency?
General Work


• The sort of stuff Jojet does
• (to set the context here...)
“How much does a
simple website cost?”
How I price work...
How I get paid...
Pricing*

*see blog for links
No magic formula!
Hourly & fixed both
       work
Part of freelancing
Mistakes will happen
Do you value yourself?
Uncertainty is common
Huge spectrum
You don’t want to win
      every job
Helps filter tyre kickers
Some people will
always think you charge
     a lot. Always.
You have to learn to
     negotiate.
It’ll take a while to get
       the hang of it.
hourly v fixed
Hourly
Hourly

• You does the work, you earns the money
Hourly

• You does the work, you earns the money
• You are selling hours
Hourly

• You does the work, you earns the money
• You are selling hours
• timesheet (& arguments!)
Hourly

• You does the work, you earns the money
• You are selling hours
• timesheet (& arguments!)
• ...not always liked by clients (how much?)
Fixed

• clients like as it is more defined
• Project/phase costs
• More task related
• More risk! /cont....
Freedom to determine
   price based on..
• How busy you are...
• The value to the client
• The size of the purse
• How much you like/dislike the client
• How much you like/dislike the job
Andy Clarke’s
         Approach

• Estimate entire project in 2 week sprints
• 2 week block & then re-assess
• One project at a time
Spec one liners...


“There will be an ecommerce element to the
website”
Time Tracking

• For where my time is spent
• For how project progress
• For how projects delivered
Support Clients


• Good for recurring revenue
• Bad if you don’t package it properly
Product Plug
Tactics


• “Do you have a budget in mind?” (invest!)
• Don’t allow your process to be shortcut
Quotes
“If you’re charging flat rate, you’re taking on the
risk. If you take on the risk, you should also
accept some of the benefits.”
“...if you’re running a business, you cannot be
afraid to ask for money. If people enjoy your
work and if you educate them on the process,
they will feel justified to give you what you ask.”
“I get paid for what I know, not necessarily
what I do”
“People will look at your high billing rate and
they will think you're rich.These are the same
people that think you'll forget how much child
birth hurts and that owning your own business
means you can goof off all the time.”
Andy Budd
“Sadly far too many designers choose to
compete on price.We enjoy what we do so
much, we’ll do it for free in our spare time. So
when somebody says they are willing to pay us
—even if it’s less than what we wanted—we
feel flattered and eagerly accept the challenge.
The desire to create is so strong in most of us, it
clouds our judgement.”
T-t-t-that’s all folks
@joel_hughes (twitter/instagram)
jojet.com


p.s. Google form
p.p.s. am always on the look out to collaborate with people more
talented than me (i.e. everybody else in this room)

p.p.p.s @stevekirtley

Clients & Pricing