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“When you advised me to check out the new farm,
you could have told me it was a wind farm.”
. .
Information is only useful when you have a clear understanding of the implications. Especially when it
comes to changes in the insurance marketplace.Your clients deserve to be fully informed and so do you.
Shouldn’t you expect more from your insurance partner?
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WaitingResearchersFindaRemedyforProspect-CallingReluctance
39 September 2012 Leader’s Edge
ing something that you believe in—it could be
an idea—to someone else, you’re actually in the
process of selling.
“We’re not focusing on what the person sells,
but the sales process itself. It really doesn’t mat-
ter if you’re selling major computer systems or
soap. The process is still the same. Regardless
of the sales environment, there is customer
engagement, no matter what.”
Today BSRP offers a series of workshops and
consulting services for companies and indi-
viduals looking to improve.
BancorpSouth recently sent its Mississippi
sales staff through a day-and-a-half-long BSRP
workshop designed to explain the various types
of call reluctance and techniques for changing
behavior.
“We’ve got to get them to realize that what
they actually have is sales call reluctance,” says
Calder. “Once we can get them to that point and
they accept that it is interfering with their abil-
ity to reach goals that are important to them,
then I can teach them how to fix it. It’s almost
like going to a doctor. The doctor can tell them
they’ve got a problem, give them a series of anti-
biotics, but if they don’t
take the antibiotics it’s
not going to solve the
problem.”
John Nance, a sales-
man in the Stewart
Sneed Hewes divi-
sion of BancorpSouth
Insurance, was one
of about 30 Bancorp-
South salespeople to
go through the BSRP
program.
“It very much high-
lighted for me the need to make prospecting
in general, and not just cold calls, a focus and
a priority,” Nance says. “For me, it’s more of a
need to not let myself get distracted and let the
day get away. This is just something that has got
to be a priority every day.”
Nance has been in sales nine years, includ-
ing seven in the insurance industry. He says he
didn’t realize how many distractions there are
that can get in the way of prospecting.
“I don’t know that I anticipated the degree of
surface noise there is with daily issues going
on, current accounts, and the 9,500 emails that
we all get every day and delete but have to read
first—all those small distractions. I don’t know
that I anticipated the level of it.
“I think it’s normal to have reluctance to cold
calling. We’re all masters to some degree in
having something else that we need to do that’s
more important. All of us have some degree of
reluctance to put ourselves out there like that. It
highlighted that, for me to grow my business, it
has to be a priority.”
While there may be resistance to change,
Calder says there is one way to see if the pro-
gram might work for a staff. “The best thing a
company can do is ask each of their producers
this question: What would more money get you
that is really important to you? Because if the
producers have an answer to that, if they have
a target and if they can put in a strategy that
cascades down to what their ideal prospecting
activity would be today, I have traction, I have
something to work with.”
Patten is a contributing writer. mike.patten87@gmail.com
“How long are we going to sit here waiting for
the other person to make the first move? Ooops.
I guess asking that was the first move.”
©2012TedGoff
‘Most people have had enough good sales training to
know how to prospect. It’s almost like they choke on
actually prospecting.’
Outbound Prospecting Improvement0
50
100
150
200
250
300
335%outbound
prospecting activity
increase
PRE-WORKSHOP FOUR WEEK AVERAGE
0
50
100
150
200
250
300
350
255
287275
314
65
PRE-
WORKSHOP
WEEKLYACTIVITYWEEKLYACTIVITY
WEEK 1 WEEK 2 WEEK 3 WEEK 4
Call Reluctance	 By Mike Patten
LeadersEdgeMagazine.com 38
of motivated, talented, educated salespeople,
relatively few rise to become successful on a
consistent basis. They analyzed the behav-
ioral tendencies of salespeople, doing exit
interviews with those who were successful
and those who were not. They interviewed top
executives, senior managers and middle man-
agers. They did cognitive and physiological
studies, hooking up salespeople to biomedical
instruments to test their reactions to different
situations.
They discovered that people who weren’t
successful were hesitant to initiate sales con-
tacts on a consistent basis. Successful prospect-
ing includes the ability to make cold calls, call
referral leads, ask clients for new lines of busi-
ness, ask for referrals and initiate contact at net-
working events. They identified 12 behavioral
patterns associated with what is technically
called Inhibited Social Contact Initiation Syn-
drome—or sales call reluctance.
BSRP described the 12 patterns this way:
ROLE REJECTION is prevalent in the insurance
agent in particular. This refers to salespeople
who have a secret shame or discomfort in iden-
tifying with the sales role. To compensate, they
tend to use various types of deflective titles:
consultant, advisor, etc. They will tell you,
point-blank, that they’re not selling but just pro-
viding advice.
DOOMSAYERS habitually worry about what
could go wrong with a contact and conse-
quently avoid making contacts.
OVER-PREPARERS tend to spend an excessive
amount of time getting prepared to make a con-
tact instead of actually making the contact.
HYPER PROS are so concerned about their pro-
fessional image that they spend too much time
crafting an image they feel people will interpret
as being successful instead of rolling up their
sleeves and getting the work done. They are
more concerned with style than substance.
STAGE FRIGHT describes salespeople who are
uncomfortable in a group situation, giving
a presentation. That level of discomfort will
cause them to avoid opportunities to give group
presentations.
YIELDERS feel they will be perceived as too
pushy or too intrusive and don’t want to engage
in behavior they feel other people will perceive
as disagreeable. They tend to avoid prospect-
ing because they’re always looking for the right
time to do so; only the right time never comes.
SOCIAL SELF-CONSCIOUSNESS describes
salespeople who are intimidated by up-market
clientele. It could be based on their perception
of a client’s superior social standing, wealth,
influence or education. They would much pre-
fer to give a presentation to an administrative
assistant than a decision-maker.
SEPARATIONISTS are uncomfortable network-
ing or selling to friends. It doesn’t matter if their
friends could use their products or services.
They think it’s unprofessional to mix business
with friendship.
UN-EMANCIPATED believe it’s inappropriate to
network through family, even though their fam-
ily might be an excellent resource.
REFERRAL AVERSION refers to those who think
it’s unprofessional to ask for a referral. It’s OK
for a customer to offer a referral, but somehow
you are being disrespectful or opportunistic if
you ask for a referral from a satisfied client.
TELEPHOBIA describes those who tell you
that they just need to make eye contact to feel
comfortable. They might drive 10 or 20 miles or
more to meet with a client face to face when a
simple phone call would suffice.
OPPOSITIONAL REFLEX involves those who
tend to reflexively oppose training, manage-
ment advice and supervision. They tend to
engage in falsifying, blaming and criticizing. It
can be challenging to manage salespeople with
this type of call reluctance because it’s difficult
to help them improve. They tend to slap the
hand that’s trying to support them.
It’s Not Just About Sales Calls
Trelitha Bryant, BSRP executive vice president
for field-testing and research, says the behaviors
that cause call reluctance can spill over into
other parts of life.
“All of us are in sales,” Bryant says. “Some of
us direct sales. But whenever you are advocat-
‘The thing I learned from this whole experience is that
call reluctance is a self-developed thing.’
0
50
100
150
200
250
300
335%outbound
prospecting activity
increase
PRE-WORKSHOP FOUR WEEK AVERAGE
350
WEEKLYACTIVITY
Fear Free & Self Promotion Workshop
Pre and Post Prospecting Activity Data
April 2012
Call Reluctance	 By Mike Patten
37 September 2012 Leader’s Edge
It was a puzzling question for the leaders at BancorpSouth Insurance. “We
•	 l	
uNearly40%of
experiencedsalespeople
experienceafearof
prospecting.
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identified12behavioral
patternsassociatedwith
InhibitedSocialContact
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helpedgeneratea335%
increaseinthenumber
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madebyBancorpSouth
salespeople.
Fast focus
Hiring sales people who will, in fact, sell is
one of the most important tasks for a sales man-
ager. Some 80% of all salespeople hired don’t
last a year. And while the most effective way to
generate business involves calling on new cus-
tomers, also known as prospecting, it turns out
that nearly 40% of even experienced salespeo-
ple experience a fear of prospecting known as
sales call reluctance. This reluctance limits the
number of prospecting attempts —and potential
sales—that even top producers make.
For answers, BancorpSouth turned to Behav-
ioral Sciences Research Press (BSRP), a Dallas,
Texas, firm founded by George Dudley and
Shannon Goodson, pioneers in the field of pre-
dicting, diagnosing and correcting sales call
reluctance. BancorpSouth sent one of its sales
divisions through BSRP’s day-and-a-half Fear-
Free Prospecting & Self-Promotion Workshop,
followed by four weeks of follow-up coaching
to see if that would increase prospecting. The
early returns are promising. BSRP helped gener-
ate a 335% increase in the number of prospect-
ing attempts in the weeks after the training, to
an average of 283 a week from an average of 65
a week.
“The thing I learned from this whole experi-
ence is that call reluctance is a self-developed
thing,” Lensing says. “The thing that I was not
convinced of, but now believe, is those charac-
teristics can be overcome.”
BSRP sales director Jacqueline Calder says
call reluctance is not fear of rejection or a lack of
training and knowledge, but an emotional con-
dition that can be treated.
“It’s not that people don’t know the script,”
she says. “It’s not that they don’t know what
to do. Basically, they have all the content and
knowledge they need to succeed, but when they
have all that information and still can’t do it,
that’s an emotional issue.”
Lensing says it’s easy to spot the producers
who don’t prospect.
“A lot of it is management by walking
around,” Lensing says. “You can tell just by the
activity or lack thereof. Ultimately, you just
kind of know who is hanging back and who is
going full bore.”
Calder says those people hanging back can be
rescued.
“The underlying principle is that there are
behavioral modification techniques that allow
the salesperson to regain emotional control over
how they feel about doing the prospecting. It is
how they feel about prospecting that’s causing
the problem. This allows them to identify, man-
age and control what they would typically refer
to as a fear of rejection.
“It’s the emotion that’s the problem. Most
people have had enough good sales training
to know how to prospect. It’s almost like they
choke on actually prospecting.”
For Lensing, the results don’t lie.
“What probably was the most telling indica-
tion was the tremendous jump in outbound call-
ing,” Lensing says. That jump told him that the
sales staff got the message that they needed to
prospect and that they had the training to over-
come call reluctance.
“The increase in prospecting activity is the
best indication of the improvement made since
the workshop,” Lensing says. “It is too early to
be able to identify sales successes related to the
increased activity at this time, but logic says it
will translate into more and better opportuni-
ties.”
Dissecting the Syndrome
Dudley and Goodson, working as psycholo-
gists for a major insurance firm, pioneered
research in call reluctance in the 1970s. They
were charged with figuring out why, in a group
as agency managers were always baffled why some producers are successful from
the start while others struggle to make it,” says Ron Lensing, an executive vice pres-
ident and corporate sales leader at BancorpSouth. “We provide technical training,
sales training and resources to help our producers differentiate themselves from the
typical vendor sales approach but do not see meaningful results with the producers
who struggle.”
LeadersEdgeMagazine.com 36
Call
WaitingBehavioral research group finds a remedy
for prospect-calling reluctance.
By Mike Patten | illustration by paul slater

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Call Waiting - Complete Article_9-2012 Leaders Edge

  • 1. “When you advised me to check out the new farm, you could have told me it was a wind farm.” . . Information is only useful when you have a clear understanding of the implications. Especially when it comes to changes in the insurance marketplace.Your clients deserve to be fully informed and so do you. Shouldn’t you expect more from your insurance partner? therightwholesaler.com leader’sedgeseptember2012 leader’s edge september2012 Call WaitingResearchersFindaRemedyforProspect-CallingReluctance
  • 2. 39 September 2012 Leader’s Edge ing something that you believe in—it could be an idea—to someone else, you’re actually in the process of selling. “We’re not focusing on what the person sells, but the sales process itself. It really doesn’t mat- ter if you’re selling major computer systems or soap. The process is still the same. Regardless of the sales environment, there is customer engagement, no matter what.” Today BSRP offers a series of workshops and consulting services for companies and indi- viduals looking to improve. BancorpSouth recently sent its Mississippi sales staff through a day-and-a-half-long BSRP workshop designed to explain the various types of call reluctance and techniques for changing behavior. “We’ve got to get them to realize that what they actually have is sales call reluctance,” says Calder. “Once we can get them to that point and they accept that it is interfering with their abil- ity to reach goals that are important to them, then I can teach them how to fix it. It’s almost like going to a doctor. The doctor can tell them they’ve got a problem, give them a series of anti- biotics, but if they don’t take the antibiotics it’s not going to solve the problem.” John Nance, a sales- man in the Stewart Sneed Hewes divi- sion of BancorpSouth Insurance, was one of about 30 Bancorp- South salespeople to go through the BSRP program. “It very much high- lighted for me the need to make prospecting in general, and not just cold calls, a focus and a priority,” Nance says. “For me, it’s more of a need to not let myself get distracted and let the day get away. This is just something that has got to be a priority every day.” Nance has been in sales nine years, includ- ing seven in the insurance industry. He says he didn’t realize how many distractions there are that can get in the way of prospecting. “I don’t know that I anticipated the degree of surface noise there is with daily issues going on, current accounts, and the 9,500 emails that we all get every day and delete but have to read first—all those small distractions. I don’t know that I anticipated the level of it. “I think it’s normal to have reluctance to cold calling. We’re all masters to some degree in having something else that we need to do that’s more important. All of us have some degree of reluctance to put ourselves out there like that. It highlighted that, for me to grow my business, it has to be a priority.” While there may be resistance to change, Calder says there is one way to see if the pro- gram might work for a staff. “The best thing a company can do is ask each of their producers this question: What would more money get you that is really important to you? Because if the producers have an answer to that, if they have a target and if they can put in a strategy that cascades down to what their ideal prospecting activity would be today, I have traction, I have something to work with.” Patten is a contributing writer. mike.patten87@gmail.com “How long are we going to sit here waiting for the other person to make the first move? Ooops. I guess asking that was the first move.” ©2012TedGoff ‘Most people have had enough good sales training to know how to prospect. It’s almost like they choke on actually prospecting.’ Outbound Prospecting Improvement0 50 100 150 200 250 300 335%outbound prospecting activity increase PRE-WORKSHOP FOUR WEEK AVERAGE 0 50 100 150 200 250 300 350 255 287275 314 65 PRE- WORKSHOP WEEKLYACTIVITYWEEKLYACTIVITY WEEK 1 WEEK 2 WEEK 3 WEEK 4
  • 3. Call Reluctance By Mike Patten LeadersEdgeMagazine.com 38 of motivated, talented, educated salespeople, relatively few rise to become successful on a consistent basis. They analyzed the behav- ioral tendencies of salespeople, doing exit interviews with those who were successful and those who were not. They interviewed top executives, senior managers and middle man- agers. They did cognitive and physiological studies, hooking up salespeople to biomedical instruments to test their reactions to different situations. They discovered that people who weren’t successful were hesitant to initiate sales con- tacts on a consistent basis. Successful prospect- ing includes the ability to make cold calls, call referral leads, ask clients for new lines of busi- ness, ask for referrals and initiate contact at net- working events. They identified 12 behavioral patterns associated with what is technically called Inhibited Social Contact Initiation Syn- drome—or sales call reluctance. BSRP described the 12 patterns this way: ROLE REJECTION is prevalent in the insurance agent in particular. This refers to salespeople who have a secret shame or discomfort in iden- tifying with the sales role. To compensate, they tend to use various types of deflective titles: consultant, advisor, etc. They will tell you, point-blank, that they’re not selling but just pro- viding advice. DOOMSAYERS habitually worry about what could go wrong with a contact and conse- quently avoid making contacts. OVER-PREPARERS tend to spend an excessive amount of time getting prepared to make a con- tact instead of actually making the contact. HYPER PROS are so concerned about their pro- fessional image that they spend too much time crafting an image they feel people will interpret as being successful instead of rolling up their sleeves and getting the work done. They are more concerned with style than substance. STAGE FRIGHT describes salespeople who are uncomfortable in a group situation, giving a presentation. That level of discomfort will cause them to avoid opportunities to give group presentations. YIELDERS feel they will be perceived as too pushy or too intrusive and don’t want to engage in behavior they feel other people will perceive as disagreeable. They tend to avoid prospect- ing because they’re always looking for the right time to do so; only the right time never comes. SOCIAL SELF-CONSCIOUSNESS describes salespeople who are intimidated by up-market clientele. It could be based on their perception of a client’s superior social standing, wealth, influence or education. They would much pre- fer to give a presentation to an administrative assistant than a decision-maker. SEPARATIONISTS are uncomfortable network- ing or selling to friends. It doesn’t matter if their friends could use their products or services. They think it’s unprofessional to mix business with friendship. UN-EMANCIPATED believe it’s inappropriate to network through family, even though their fam- ily might be an excellent resource. REFERRAL AVERSION refers to those who think it’s unprofessional to ask for a referral. It’s OK for a customer to offer a referral, but somehow you are being disrespectful or opportunistic if you ask for a referral from a satisfied client. TELEPHOBIA describes those who tell you that they just need to make eye contact to feel comfortable. They might drive 10 or 20 miles or more to meet with a client face to face when a simple phone call would suffice. OPPOSITIONAL REFLEX involves those who tend to reflexively oppose training, manage- ment advice and supervision. They tend to engage in falsifying, blaming and criticizing. It can be challenging to manage salespeople with this type of call reluctance because it’s difficult to help them improve. They tend to slap the hand that’s trying to support them. It’s Not Just About Sales Calls Trelitha Bryant, BSRP executive vice president for field-testing and research, says the behaviors that cause call reluctance can spill over into other parts of life. “All of us are in sales,” Bryant says. “Some of us direct sales. But whenever you are advocat- ‘The thing I learned from this whole experience is that call reluctance is a self-developed thing.’ 0 50 100 150 200 250 300 335%outbound prospecting activity increase PRE-WORKSHOP FOUR WEEK AVERAGE 350 WEEKLYACTIVITY Fear Free & Self Promotion Workshop Pre and Post Prospecting Activity Data April 2012
  • 4. Call Reluctance By Mike Patten 37 September 2012 Leader’s Edge It was a puzzling question for the leaders at BancorpSouth Insurance. “We • l uNearly40%of experiencedsalespeople experienceafearof prospecting. uBehavioralSciences ResearchPress identified12behavioral patternsassociatedwith InhibitedSocialContact InitiationSyndrome. uABSRPtrainingprogram helpedgeneratea335% increaseinthenumber ofprospectingattempts madebyBancorpSouth salespeople. Fast focus Hiring sales people who will, in fact, sell is one of the most important tasks for a sales man- ager. Some 80% of all salespeople hired don’t last a year. And while the most effective way to generate business involves calling on new cus- tomers, also known as prospecting, it turns out that nearly 40% of even experienced salespeo- ple experience a fear of prospecting known as sales call reluctance. This reluctance limits the number of prospecting attempts —and potential sales—that even top producers make. For answers, BancorpSouth turned to Behav- ioral Sciences Research Press (BSRP), a Dallas, Texas, firm founded by George Dudley and Shannon Goodson, pioneers in the field of pre- dicting, diagnosing and correcting sales call reluctance. BancorpSouth sent one of its sales divisions through BSRP’s day-and-a-half Fear- Free Prospecting & Self-Promotion Workshop, followed by four weeks of follow-up coaching to see if that would increase prospecting. The early returns are promising. BSRP helped gener- ate a 335% increase in the number of prospect- ing attempts in the weeks after the training, to an average of 283 a week from an average of 65 a week. “The thing I learned from this whole experi- ence is that call reluctance is a self-developed thing,” Lensing says. “The thing that I was not convinced of, but now believe, is those charac- teristics can be overcome.” BSRP sales director Jacqueline Calder says call reluctance is not fear of rejection or a lack of training and knowledge, but an emotional con- dition that can be treated. “It’s not that people don’t know the script,” she says. “It’s not that they don’t know what to do. Basically, they have all the content and knowledge they need to succeed, but when they have all that information and still can’t do it, that’s an emotional issue.” Lensing says it’s easy to spot the producers who don’t prospect. “A lot of it is management by walking around,” Lensing says. “You can tell just by the activity or lack thereof. Ultimately, you just kind of know who is hanging back and who is going full bore.” Calder says those people hanging back can be rescued. “The underlying principle is that there are behavioral modification techniques that allow the salesperson to regain emotional control over how they feel about doing the prospecting. It is how they feel about prospecting that’s causing the problem. This allows them to identify, man- age and control what they would typically refer to as a fear of rejection. “It’s the emotion that’s the problem. Most people have had enough good sales training to know how to prospect. It’s almost like they choke on actually prospecting.” For Lensing, the results don’t lie. “What probably was the most telling indica- tion was the tremendous jump in outbound call- ing,” Lensing says. That jump told him that the sales staff got the message that they needed to prospect and that they had the training to over- come call reluctance. “The increase in prospecting activity is the best indication of the improvement made since the workshop,” Lensing says. “It is too early to be able to identify sales successes related to the increased activity at this time, but logic says it will translate into more and better opportuni- ties.” Dissecting the Syndrome Dudley and Goodson, working as psycholo- gists for a major insurance firm, pioneered research in call reluctance in the 1970s. They were charged with figuring out why, in a group as agency managers were always baffled why some producers are successful from the start while others struggle to make it,” says Ron Lensing, an executive vice pres- ident and corporate sales leader at BancorpSouth. “We provide technical training, sales training and resources to help our producers differentiate themselves from the typical vendor sales approach but do not see meaningful results with the producers who struggle.”
  • 5. LeadersEdgeMagazine.com 36 Call WaitingBehavioral research group finds a remedy for prospect-calling reluctance. By Mike Patten | illustration by paul slater