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Authority?
What Gives Me
Icon by Maxim Kulikov from the Noun Project
Authority?
What Gives Me
Icon by Maxim Kulikov from the Noun Project
to answer the big questions?
TALK ABOUT
Religion
How Paul Talked
About Religion
A CASE STUDY IN ACTS 17:16-34
Dialogue
REASONABLE
BackgroundACTS 17:16
1
BackgroundACTS 17:16
1
Common GroundACTS 17:17,22
2
BackgroundACTS 17:16
1
Common GroundACTS 17:17,22
2
Uncommon
Ground
3
ACTS 17:23-31
Series AimsWhy study background, common ground, and
uncommon ground with various faith traditions?
Series Aims
Equip the Church
— Eph. 4:11-16 —
1
Why study background, common ground, and
uncommon ground with various faith traditions?
Equip the Church
— Eph. 4:11-16 —
1
2
Check for Logs in Our Eyes
— Matt. 7::3-5 —
Series AimsWhy study background, common ground, and
uncommon ground with various faith traditions?
Roman
Catholic
Friends
Talking to our
BackgroundACTS 17:16
Get to Know Some
1
“There are an estimated 1.2 billion
Roman Catholics in the world,
according to Vatican figures. More
than 40% of the world's Catholics live
in Latin America - but Africa has
seen the biggest growth in Catholic
congregations in recent years.”
— BBC
85 million
in North America,
about 7.3% of the
population
— BBC
Authority
Tradition Magisterium
The “teaching authority” of
the Catholic Church formed
of the Pope and Bishops
ScriptureTeachings and practices
throughout history that they
believe reveal God’s will.
Icon by Maxim Kulikov from the Noun Project
The Bible
Icon by Filippo Gianessi from the Noun Project
Common GroundACTS 17:17,22
2
Tradition Magisterium
Scripture
Icon by Maxim Kulikov from the Noun Project
Scripture
Faith in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit — and His Word!
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Uncommon GroundACTS 17:23-31
3
Tradition Magisterium
Scripture
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Tradition Magisterium
Scripture
Icons by Maxim Kulikov, Robert Bjurshagen, Kokota, parkjisun, Luis Prado, Eucalyp, Econceptive, Vladimir Belochkin from the Noun Project
Tradition Magisterium
Scripture
Icons by Maxim Kulikov, Robert Bjurshagen, Kokota, parkjisun, Luis Prado, Eucalyp, Econceptive, Vladimir Belochkin from the Noun Project
Tradition Magisterium
Scripture
Icons by Maxim Kulikov, Robert Bjurshagen, Kokota, parkjisun, Luis Prado, Eucalyp, Econceptive, Vladimir Belochkin from the Noun Project
Tradition Magisterium
Scripture
Icons by Maxim Kulikov, Robert Bjurshagen, Kokota, parkjisun, Luis Prado, Eucalyp, Econceptive, Vladimir Belochkin from the Noun Project
Tradition Magisterium
Scripture
Icons by Maxim Kulikov, Robert Bjurshagen, Kokota, parkjisun, Luis Prado, Eucalyp, Econceptive, Vladimir Belochkin from the Noun Project
Tradition Magisterium
Scripture
Icons by Maxim Kulikov, Robert Bjurshagen, Kokota, parkjisun, Luis Prado, Eucalyp, Econceptive, Vladimir Belochkin from the Noun Project
Tradition Magisterium
Scripture
Icons by Maxim Kulikov, Robert Bjurshagen, Kokota, parkjisun, Luis Prado, Eucalyp, Econceptive, Vladimir Belochkin from the Noun Project
Tradition Magisterium
Scripture
Icons by Maxim Kulikov, Robert Bjurshagen, Kokota, parkjisun, Luis Prado, Eucalyp, Econceptive, Vladimir Belochkin from the Noun Project
Tradition Magisterium
Scripture
Icons by Maxim Kulikov, Robert Bjurshagen, Kokota, parkjisun, Luis Prado, Eucalyp, Econceptive, Vladimir Belochkin from the Noun Project
Tradition Magisterium
Scripture
Icons by Maxim Kulikov, Robert Bjurshagen, Kokota, parkjisun, Luis Prado, Eucalyp, Econceptive, Vladimir Belochkin from the Noun Project
Scripture
Tradition
Tradition“Not all truths revealed for us by God are found in the Bible;
some are found only in Divine Tradition. By Divine Tradition is meant the
revealed truths taught by Christ and His apostles, which were given to the
Church only by word of mouth and not through the Bible, though they
were put in writing, principally by the Fathers of the Church. Divine
Tradition must be believed as firmly as the Bible because it also contains
the word of God.”
(A Catechism of Christian Doctrine)
=
Magisterium
Icon by Nathan Newell Griffith from the Noun Project
The Pope
College of Cardinals
Archbishops & Bishops
Priests, Monks, Deacons, Subdeacons
Laity
Infallibility
"By the infallibility of the Catholic Church is meant that the Church, by the
special assistance of the Holy Ghost, cannot err when it teaches or believes
a doctrine of faith or morals The Church teaches infallibly when it defines,
through the Pope alone, as the teacher of all Christians, or through the
Pope and the bishops, a doctrine of faith or morals to be held by all the
faithful." (A Catechism of Christian Doctrine)
The pope “enjoys in virtue of his office, when, as the supreme shepherd
and teacher of all the faithful, who confirms his brethren in their faith
(Luke 22:32), he proclaims by a definitive act some doctrine of faith or
morals. Therefore his definitions, of themselves, and not from the consent of
the Church, are justly held irreformable, for they are pronounced with the
assistance of the Holy Spirit, an assistance promised to him in blessed
Peter.” (Vatican II).
Pope Francis
The current Pope has worked to adapt the Roman Catholic church to the
modern world and make it more inclusive. He has made controversial
statements about issues like gay marriage, divorce, contraception, and abortion.
Pope Francis
In one surprising statement, he said trying to convert someone to Christianity
is “solemn nonsense.” In May 2013, he famously said: "The Lord has
redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ, all of us, not just
Catholics. Everyone! 'Father, the atheists?' Even the atheists. Everyone!"
Pope Francis
In one surprising statement, he said trying to convert someone to Christianity
is “solemn nonsense.” In May 2013, he famously said: "The Lord has
redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ, all of us, not just
Catholics. Everyone! 'Father, the atheists?' Even the atheists. Everyone!"
John 3:16; Heb. 11:6; Rom. 10:9-10; Mark 16:16; Eph. 2:8-10
Pope Francis
In an open letter to an Italian newspaper he expounds how atheists have salvation, “You
ask me if the God of the Christians forgives those who don’t believe and who don’t
seek the faith. I start by saying – and this is the fundamental thing – that God’s
mercy has no limits if you go to him with a sincere and contrite heart. The issue
for those who do not believe in God is to obey their conscience. Sin, even for those
who have no faith, exists when people disobey their conscience.”
“Living Constitution”
or “Original Intent”
“Living Constitution”
or “Original Intent”
1 Peter 1:23-25
What’s the Ideal?
Progress is an appealing idea, but
maybe we admire innovation when
we should admire preservation.
What is a pattern?
A pattern exists as a model to be imitated (2 Tim. 1:13).
Where Did Paul’s Authority Come From?
As an apostle of Christ (v. 1), he received the message directly by
revelation from the Lord (Eph. 3:3). The earliest Christians "devoted
themselves to the apostles’ teaching" (Acts 2:42) because the apostles and
prophets are the foundation of the household of God (Eph. 2:19-20).
QUALIFICATIONS (Acts 1:21-22; 1 Cor. 15:8-10; Gal. 1:12-17).
Clement of Rome (considered the 3rd pope)
Early Christian writings, after the apostles fell asleep, express the idea of
an authoritative pattern. Even as early as Clement, writing perhaps around
95 AD, they already looked backward to seek the standard handed down.
“The Apostles received the Gospel for us from the
Lord Jesus Christ; Jesus Christ was sent forth from God.
So then Christ is from God, and the Apostles are from
Christ. Both therefore came of the will of God in the
appointed order” (1 Clement 42:1-2).
“Wherefore let us forsake idle and vain thoughts; and
let us conform to the glorious and venerable rule which
hath been handed down to us” (1 Clement 7:2).
Paul
1 Timothy 1:11
Paul
Timothy
1 Timothy 1:11
1 Timothy 6:20
Paul
Timothy
Faithful
Man
1 Timothy 1:11
1 Timothy 6:20
1 Timothy 1:13-14, 2:2
Paul
Timothy
Faithful
Man
Faithful
Man
Faithful
Man
1 Timothy 1:11
1 Timothy 6:20
1 Timothy 1:13-14, 2:2
1 Timothy 2:2
Yet Even When Hearing an Apostle…
The Bereans are praised for “examining the Scriptures
daily to see if these things were so” (Acts 17:11).
Not because Paul’s teaching wasn’t reliable, but because it was,
and therefore would always be true to what God has said.
“Cheating” at the Game of Telephone
The Lord has given us an authoritative pattern. The purest form of
Christianity is found in inspired writings about the Apostle-led church.
1
A Suggested Path Forward
Interpretations shouldn’t contradict Scripture.
1
2
A Suggested Path Forward
God’s Word is ever reliable, do you agree?
Interpretations shouldn’t contradict Scripture.
1
2
3
A Suggested Path Forward
Would you consider looking at God’s way
to eternal life according to your Bible?
God’s Word is ever reliable, do you agree?
Interpretations shouldn’t contradict Scripture.
1
2
3
A Suggested Path Forward
Would you consider looking at God’s way
to eternal life according to your Bible?
God’s Word is ever reliable, do you agree?
Interpretations shouldn’t contradict Scripture.
4 Would you “search the Scriptures” to test if
everything I say to you is so (Acts 17:11)?
Tradition Magisterium
Scripture
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Scripture
The Word revealed by Apostles and
Prophets is a Solid Foundation for
God’s temple, his church (Eph. 2:20).
We're completely equipped by
Scripture (2 Tim. 3:16-17), by the faith
once delivered (Ju. 3).
Icon by Maxim Kulikov from the Noun Project
Scripture
The Word revealed by Apostles and
Prophets is a Solid Foundation for
God’s temple, his church (Eph. 2:20).
We're completely equipped by
Scripture (2 Tim. 3:16-17), by the faith
once delivered (Ju. 3).
Icon by Maxim Kulikov from the Noun ProjectIcon by Filippo Gianessi from the Noun Project
temple
"built on the foundation of
the apostles and prophets,
Christ Jesus himself being the
cornerstone, in whom the
whole structure, being joined
together, grows into a holy
temple in the Lord”
(Eph 2:20–21)
Scripture
Icon by Maxim Kulikov from the Noun ProjectIcon by Filippo Gianessi from the Noun Project
"And now why do you wait? Rise and be baptized and
wash away your sins, calling on his name.” (Acts 22:16)
"if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe
in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be
saved…For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him
will not be put to shame.” …For “everyone who calls on the
name of the Lord will be saved.” (Rom. 10:9-13)

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Let's Talk About Religion — Roman Catholicism

  • 1. Authority? What Gives Me Icon by Maxim Kulikov from the Noun Project
  • 2. Authority? What Gives Me Icon by Maxim Kulikov from the Noun Project to answer the big questions?
  • 4. How Paul Talked About Religion A CASE STUDY IN ACTS 17:16-34
  • 8. BackgroundACTS 17:16 1 Common GroundACTS 17:17,22 2 Uncommon Ground 3 ACTS 17:23-31
  • 9. Series AimsWhy study background, common ground, and uncommon ground with various faith traditions?
  • 10. Series Aims Equip the Church — Eph. 4:11-16 — 1 Why study background, common ground, and uncommon ground with various faith traditions?
  • 11. Equip the Church — Eph. 4:11-16 — 1 2 Check for Logs in Our Eyes — Matt. 7::3-5 — Series AimsWhy study background, common ground, and uncommon ground with various faith traditions?
  • 14. “There are an estimated 1.2 billion Roman Catholics in the world, according to Vatican figures. More than 40% of the world's Catholics live in Latin America - but Africa has seen the biggest growth in Catholic congregations in recent years.” — BBC
  • 15. 85 million in North America, about 7.3% of the population — BBC
  • 16. Authority Tradition Magisterium The “teaching authority” of the Catholic Church formed of the Pope and Bishops ScriptureTeachings and practices throughout history that they believe reveal God’s will. Icon by Maxim Kulikov from the Noun Project The Bible Icon by Filippo Gianessi from the Noun Project
  • 18. Tradition Magisterium Scripture Icon by Maxim Kulikov from the Noun Project
  • 19. Scripture Faith in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit — and His Word! Icon by Maxim Kulikov from the Noun Project
  • 21. Tradition Magisterium Scripture Icons by Maxim Kulikov, Robert Bjurshagen, Kokota, parkjisun, Luis Prado, Eucalyp, Econceptive, Vladimir Belochkin from the Noun Project
  • 22. Tradition Magisterium Scripture Icons by Maxim Kulikov, Robert Bjurshagen, Kokota, parkjisun, Luis Prado, Eucalyp, Econceptive, Vladimir Belochkin from the Noun Project
  • 23. Tradition Magisterium Scripture Icons by Maxim Kulikov, Robert Bjurshagen, Kokota, parkjisun, Luis Prado, Eucalyp, Econceptive, Vladimir Belochkin from the Noun Project
  • 24. Tradition Magisterium Scripture Icons by Maxim Kulikov, Robert Bjurshagen, Kokota, parkjisun, Luis Prado, Eucalyp, Econceptive, Vladimir Belochkin from the Noun Project
  • 25. Tradition Magisterium Scripture Icons by Maxim Kulikov, Robert Bjurshagen, Kokota, parkjisun, Luis Prado, Eucalyp, Econceptive, Vladimir Belochkin from the Noun Project
  • 26. Tradition Magisterium Scripture Icons by Maxim Kulikov, Robert Bjurshagen, Kokota, parkjisun, Luis Prado, Eucalyp, Econceptive, Vladimir Belochkin from the Noun Project
  • 27. Tradition Magisterium Scripture Icons by Maxim Kulikov, Robert Bjurshagen, Kokota, parkjisun, Luis Prado, Eucalyp, Econceptive, Vladimir Belochkin from the Noun Project
  • 28. Tradition Magisterium Scripture Icons by Maxim Kulikov, Robert Bjurshagen, Kokota, parkjisun, Luis Prado, Eucalyp, Econceptive, Vladimir Belochkin from the Noun Project
  • 29. Tradition Magisterium Scripture Icons by Maxim Kulikov, Robert Bjurshagen, Kokota, parkjisun, Luis Prado, Eucalyp, Econceptive, Vladimir Belochkin from the Noun Project
  • 30. Tradition Magisterium Scripture Icons by Maxim Kulikov, Robert Bjurshagen, Kokota, parkjisun, Luis Prado, Eucalyp, Econceptive, Vladimir Belochkin from the Noun Project
  • 31. Tradition Magisterium Scripture Icons by Maxim Kulikov, Robert Bjurshagen, Kokota, parkjisun, Luis Prado, Eucalyp, Econceptive, Vladimir Belochkin from the Noun Project
  • 34. Tradition“Not all truths revealed for us by God are found in the Bible; some are found only in Divine Tradition. By Divine Tradition is meant the revealed truths taught by Christ and His apostles, which were given to the Church only by word of mouth and not through the Bible, though they were put in writing, principally by the Fathers of the Church. Divine Tradition must be believed as firmly as the Bible because it also contains the word of God.” (A Catechism of Christian Doctrine)
  • 36. Icon by Nathan Newell Griffith from the Noun Project The Pope College of Cardinals Archbishops & Bishops Priests, Monks, Deacons, Subdeacons Laity
  • 37. Infallibility "By the infallibility of the Catholic Church is meant that the Church, by the special assistance of the Holy Ghost, cannot err when it teaches or believes a doctrine of faith or morals The Church teaches infallibly when it defines, through the Pope alone, as the teacher of all Christians, or through the Pope and the bishops, a doctrine of faith or morals to be held by all the faithful." (A Catechism of Christian Doctrine) The pope “enjoys in virtue of his office, when, as the supreme shepherd and teacher of all the faithful, who confirms his brethren in their faith (Luke 22:32), he proclaims by a definitive act some doctrine of faith or morals. Therefore his definitions, of themselves, and not from the consent of the Church, are justly held irreformable, for they are pronounced with the assistance of the Holy Spirit, an assistance promised to him in blessed Peter.” (Vatican II).
  • 38. Pope Francis The current Pope has worked to adapt the Roman Catholic church to the modern world and make it more inclusive. He has made controversial statements about issues like gay marriage, divorce, contraception, and abortion.
  • 39. Pope Francis In one surprising statement, he said trying to convert someone to Christianity is “solemn nonsense.” In May 2013, he famously said: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ, all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! 'Father, the atheists?' Even the atheists. Everyone!"
  • 40. Pope Francis In one surprising statement, he said trying to convert someone to Christianity is “solemn nonsense.” In May 2013, he famously said: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ, all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! 'Father, the atheists?' Even the atheists. Everyone!" John 3:16; Heb. 11:6; Rom. 10:9-10; Mark 16:16; Eph. 2:8-10
  • 41. Pope Francis In an open letter to an Italian newspaper he expounds how atheists have salvation, “You ask me if the God of the Christians forgives those who don’t believe and who don’t seek the faith. I start by saying – and this is the fundamental thing – that God’s mercy has no limits if you go to him with a sincere and contrite heart. The issue for those who do not believe in God is to obey their conscience. Sin, even for those who have no faith, exists when people disobey their conscience.”
  • 43. “Living Constitution” or “Original Intent” 1 Peter 1:23-25
  • 44. What’s the Ideal? Progress is an appealing idea, but maybe we admire innovation when we should admire preservation.
  • 45. What is a pattern? A pattern exists as a model to be imitated (2 Tim. 1:13).
  • 46. Where Did Paul’s Authority Come From? As an apostle of Christ (v. 1), he received the message directly by revelation from the Lord (Eph. 3:3). The earliest Christians "devoted themselves to the apostles’ teaching" (Acts 2:42) because the apostles and prophets are the foundation of the household of God (Eph. 2:19-20). QUALIFICATIONS (Acts 1:21-22; 1 Cor. 15:8-10; Gal. 1:12-17).
  • 47. Clement of Rome (considered the 3rd pope) Early Christian writings, after the apostles fell asleep, express the idea of an authoritative pattern. Even as early as Clement, writing perhaps around 95 AD, they already looked backward to seek the standard handed down. “The Apostles received the Gospel for us from the Lord Jesus Christ; Jesus Christ was sent forth from God. So then Christ is from God, and the Apostles are from Christ. Both therefore came of the will of God in the appointed order” (1 Clement 42:1-2). “Wherefore let us forsake idle and vain thoughts; and let us conform to the glorious and venerable rule which hath been handed down to us” (1 Clement 7:2).
  • 50. Paul Timothy Faithful Man 1 Timothy 1:11 1 Timothy 6:20 1 Timothy 1:13-14, 2:2
  • 51. Paul Timothy Faithful Man Faithful Man Faithful Man 1 Timothy 1:11 1 Timothy 6:20 1 Timothy 1:13-14, 2:2 1 Timothy 2:2
  • 52. Yet Even When Hearing an Apostle… The Bereans are praised for “examining the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so” (Acts 17:11). Not because Paul’s teaching wasn’t reliable, but because it was, and therefore would always be true to what God has said.
  • 53. “Cheating” at the Game of Telephone The Lord has given us an authoritative pattern. The purest form of Christianity is found in inspired writings about the Apostle-led church.
  • 54. 1 A Suggested Path Forward Interpretations shouldn’t contradict Scripture.
  • 55. 1 2 A Suggested Path Forward God’s Word is ever reliable, do you agree? Interpretations shouldn’t contradict Scripture.
  • 56. 1 2 3 A Suggested Path Forward Would you consider looking at God’s way to eternal life according to your Bible? God’s Word is ever reliable, do you agree? Interpretations shouldn’t contradict Scripture.
  • 57. 1 2 3 A Suggested Path Forward Would you consider looking at God’s way to eternal life according to your Bible? God’s Word is ever reliable, do you agree? Interpretations shouldn’t contradict Scripture. 4 Would you “search the Scriptures” to test if everything I say to you is so (Acts 17:11)?
  • 58. Tradition Magisterium Scripture Icons by Maxim Kulikov, Robert Bjurshagen, Kokota, parkjisun, Luis Prado, Eucalyp, Econceptive, Vladimir Belochkin from the Noun Project
  • 59. Scripture The Word revealed by Apostles and Prophets is a Solid Foundation for God’s temple, his church (Eph. 2:20). We're completely equipped by Scripture (2 Tim. 3:16-17), by the faith once delivered (Ju. 3). Icon by Maxim Kulikov from the Noun Project
  • 60. Scripture The Word revealed by Apostles and Prophets is a Solid Foundation for God’s temple, his church (Eph. 2:20). We're completely equipped by Scripture (2 Tim. 3:16-17), by the faith once delivered (Ju. 3). Icon by Maxim Kulikov from the Noun ProjectIcon by Filippo Gianessi from the Noun Project temple "built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord” (Eph 2:20–21)
  • 61. Scripture Icon by Maxim Kulikov from the Noun ProjectIcon by Filippo Gianessi from the Noun Project "And now why do you wait? Rise and be baptized and wash away your sins, calling on his name.” (Acts 22:16) "if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved…For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.” …For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” (Rom. 10:9-13)