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Research Department                                                            Minnesota
Patrick J. McCormack, Director                                                 House of
600 State Office Building                                                      Representatives
St. Paul, Minnesota 55155-1298
651-296-6753 [FAX 651-296-9887]
www.house.mn/hrd/hrd.htm

                                              September 13, 2011




       TO:        Interested Members

       FROM: Anita Neumann (651-296-5056)

       RE:        Home-based child care/AFSCME and SEIU organizing activities


       In response to requests for information on the issue, this memo provides preliminary information
       and answers to basic questions regarding the potential organization of home-based child care
       providers in Minnesota.

       Basic Questions:

         1. What is the status of home-based child care providers under the Public Employment Labor
            Relations Act (PELRA)?
                Answer: Minnesota Statutes Chapter 179A defines a public employer as the state of
                   Minnesota or other local political subdivisions. The law also defines public
                   employees as those appointed or employed by a public employer. Under current
                   law, a self-employed, home-based child care provider would not be a public
                   employer or a public employee. Here is the link to the law; the relevant definitions
                   are in subdivisions 14 and 15: https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=179A.03

         2. What is the status of home-based child care providers under Minnesota child care
            assistance laws?
                 Answer: A second and separate provision of state law that deals specifically with
                    public child care assistance subsidies, Minnesota Statutes Section 119B.09,
                    subdivision 8, states that receipt of federal, state, or local funds by a child care
                    provider does not establish an employee-employer relationship between the
                    provider and the county or the state. Here is the link to the statute:
                    https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=119B.09
Research Department                                                               September 13, 2011
Minnesota House of Representatives                                                            Page 2


    3. Would the organization of home-based child care providers fall under the jurisdiction of
       the State Bureau of Mediation Services (BMS)?
            Answer: The opinion of the BMS, based on a preliminary assessment without
               actually having an action or process with facts on which to base a decision, is that
               private, self-employed home-based child care providers would most likely not fall
               under their jurisdiction because the providers are neither public employees nor
               employees of any single employer. State law, in section 179.10, already
               authorizes both private employees and employers to self-organize or associate
               together for the purpose of collective bargaining. For those under the jurisdiction
               of the BMS, Minnesota law, in chapters 179 and 179A, provide a process for
               employees to gather signatures for the purpose of designating an exclusive
               representative for the purposes of collective bargaining. The normal procedure on
               the BMS is that a group of employees would fill out a petition for representation
               and file that petition with the BMS. Authorization cards—signed and dated within
               six months of the petition being filed—from at least 30 percent of the employees
               requesting representation must also be submitted. The BMS would then issue an
               order covering the employees until the BMS investigated the petition and
               signature and an election was held. If the employees voted in the exclusive
               representative, then that’s the group that would represent them. This is the link to
               Minnesota Statutes, section 179.10 providing self-organization rights to private
               sector employees and employers: https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=179.10
               The process for selecting a representative is contained in Minnesota Statutes
               Section 179.16 linked here: https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=179.16
               These links are for information only, since the BMS does not believe it has
               jurisdiction over the child care providers in question.

    4. Would activities to organize home-based child care providers be covered under the
       National Labor Relations Act (NLRA)?
           Answer: The NLRA has a very specific process for collecting signatures,
              verifying those signatures, and holding elections to determine representation. The
              NLRA applies broadly to private employees and private employers but
              specifically exempts public employees, independent contractors, and some private
              entities that don’t operate in interstate commerce. The question over whether
              home-based child care providers are covered or exempt under the NLRA is
              somewhat open depending upon whether they are classified as independent
              contractors and/or how and to what extent their business operates in interstate
              commerce. Given the small size and limited operation of most self-employed
              home-based child care providers, it is questionable whether they would be
              covered because their interstate commerce activities would be very limited. The
              question of whether they are independent contractors would depend on how they
              have organized their business and how they operate it. The following is a link to
              an information brief I did on private sector labor relations awhile ago, but the
              basic facts are still up to date.
              http://www.house.leg.state.mn.us/hrd/pubs/prvlabor.pdf
Research Department                                                              September 13, 2011
Minnesota House of Representatives                                                           Page 3


    5. What are the federal anti-trust issues?
          Answer: A preliminary review of available information on the issue of organizing
             home-based child care providers, suggests that there is an issue in the discussion
             that involves federal anti trust laws. The issue surrounds the prohibition of
             independent contractors from organizing or negotiating collectively unless there is
             a specific state provision that effectively creates an exemption from the anti trust
             provisions to accomplish a public policy goal of the state.

    6. What are the implications of executive orders?
         Answer: Many of the “executive orders” issued in other states include very specific
         language specifying that the child care providers are not public employees. This gives
         rise to the question that if the providers were not public employees, what would the
         “representation” mean in Minnesota, and more specifically, what would be the source
         of the health care coverage or potential pension benefits that organizers are
         discussing. See the note below based on a conversation with the AFSCME
         representative regarding possible sources of health care benefits.

        Based on much of the material written and blogged regarding activities in other states,
        and the understanding of the issue by Cyndi Cunningham and other Minnesota child care
        providers, the “exclusive representative” is generally more of an advocacy, lobbying role
        on issues like higher child care assistance subsidies, expedited payments to providers and
        enhanced training opportunities—than a traditional wage and hour collective bargaining
        role. There have been limited instances where the providers were deemed “quasi” public
        employees for certain purposes, but they generally did not extend to insurance coverage,
        public pension benefits, workers compensation coverage, unemployment benefits and the
        like. One of the main concerns expressed by some of the providers in Minnesota is
        assuming that they would be assessed for dues or fees, what would they be getting in
        return?

    7. What are the issues surrounding union dues and public child care subsidies?
          Answer: Among the day care providers with whom I’ve made contact, the two
             main concerns center upon the process under which they were convinced to sign a
             card of support and the potential dues or fees that they would be asked to pay.
             Some states, including Michigan initially, set up a system under which the
             dues/fees were deducted from the public child care subsides paid to day care
             providers. That practice has been stopped in Michigan, and, according to Danyell
             Punelli (the child care subsidy person in House Research), federal law prohibits
             union dues or other fees from being deducted from federal child care development
             fund resources (CCDF) and there is no authority in Minnesota’s state law that
             would authorize those deductions. The only information that I was able to get
             regarding the process was anecdotal information from opponents and proponents
             of organizing. Depending on which side the person was on, the process was either
             very bad, or just fine.

    8. What are the unions saying?
          Answer: I spoke with Eric Lehto, the AFSCME official in charge of organizing
             who told me that their activity was not a “card check” campaign. Since these are
Research Department                                                                 September 13, 2011
Minnesota House of Representatives                                                              Page 4


                all independent employers, there would be no employer to present the card to.
                Instead, he characterized the cards as indicators of support for an organization.
                When I asked if and how they contemplated collecting dues or fees from potential
                members, the response was that they did not know how that would occur. I also
                asked how AFSCME believed that health care benefits or pension benefits could
                be obtained for in home providers since they were clearly not public employees or
                public employers and the response was that as a large group, there could be the
                potential for negotiating a group rate with a private insurer. I have contacted
                SEUI, but have not heard back from them as of this writing.

    9.   What questions remain?
            Answer: There are clearly more questions surrounding this issue than answers at
               this time. I was unable to verify either affirmatively or negatively whether the
               governor would issue an executive order on this issue. The biggest question is if
               there were to be an executive order on this issue, what would it mean? Given the
               current law provisions under PELRA and the child care subsidy law, without a
               legislative change, it seems unlikely that private, home-based child care providers
               could be public employers or public employees. And, given the information from
               the child care subsidy experts, since federal law does not allow payment of union
               dues or other fees from federal child care money and since state law lacks an
               authorization to do so, that the deduction of dues or fees from subsidy checks
               would be problematic.

    10. What are some possible next steps?
           Answer: There are a number of things that may be considered going forward,
              including:

                     Amending PELRA to specifically exclude in-home child care providers is a
                      possible approach but carries some potential consequences. The biggest
                      concern would be that a court would conclude that because child care
                      providers had a specific exemption, then anyone without a specific
                      exemption would be included.
                     Language could be added to chapter 119B (the child care assistance law) to
                      specifically prohibit the deduction of union dues or other similar fees from
                      state or local child care subsidy payments.
                     Language could be added to the child care program law to prohibit the state
                      or counties from contracting with non-public entities for a certain child care
                      related activities. This would require carefully crafted language to ensure that
                      it applied only to the types of organizations desired and not to existing non-
                      profits and others who provide contracted child care training and assistance
                      services for example.
                     As mentioned above, more research needs to be done into the anti-trust issue
                      since that appears to be an emerging issue/argument across the country.

AN/jv

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Memo child care unions

  • 1. Research Department Minnesota Patrick J. McCormack, Director House of 600 State Office Building Representatives St. Paul, Minnesota 55155-1298 651-296-6753 [FAX 651-296-9887] www.house.mn/hrd/hrd.htm September 13, 2011 TO: Interested Members FROM: Anita Neumann (651-296-5056) RE: Home-based child care/AFSCME and SEIU organizing activities In response to requests for information on the issue, this memo provides preliminary information and answers to basic questions regarding the potential organization of home-based child care providers in Minnesota. Basic Questions: 1. What is the status of home-based child care providers under the Public Employment Labor Relations Act (PELRA)?  Answer: Minnesota Statutes Chapter 179A defines a public employer as the state of Minnesota or other local political subdivisions. The law also defines public employees as those appointed or employed by a public employer. Under current law, a self-employed, home-based child care provider would not be a public employer or a public employee. Here is the link to the law; the relevant definitions are in subdivisions 14 and 15: https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=179A.03 2. What is the status of home-based child care providers under Minnesota child care assistance laws?  Answer: A second and separate provision of state law that deals specifically with public child care assistance subsidies, Minnesota Statutes Section 119B.09, subdivision 8, states that receipt of federal, state, or local funds by a child care provider does not establish an employee-employer relationship between the provider and the county or the state. Here is the link to the statute: https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=119B.09
  • 2. Research Department September 13, 2011 Minnesota House of Representatives Page 2 3. Would the organization of home-based child care providers fall under the jurisdiction of the State Bureau of Mediation Services (BMS)?  Answer: The opinion of the BMS, based on a preliminary assessment without actually having an action or process with facts on which to base a decision, is that private, self-employed home-based child care providers would most likely not fall under their jurisdiction because the providers are neither public employees nor employees of any single employer. State law, in section 179.10, already authorizes both private employees and employers to self-organize or associate together for the purpose of collective bargaining. For those under the jurisdiction of the BMS, Minnesota law, in chapters 179 and 179A, provide a process for employees to gather signatures for the purpose of designating an exclusive representative for the purposes of collective bargaining. The normal procedure on the BMS is that a group of employees would fill out a petition for representation and file that petition with the BMS. Authorization cards—signed and dated within six months of the petition being filed—from at least 30 percent of the employees requesting representation must also be submitted. The BMS would then issue an order covering the employees until the BMS investigated the petition and signature and an election was held. If the employees voted in the exclusive representative, then that’s the group that would represent them. This is the link to Minnesota Statutes, section 179.10 providing self-organization rights to private sector employees and employers: https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=179.10 The process for selecting a representative is contained in Minnesota Statutes Section 179.16 linked here: https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=179.16 These links are for information only, since the BMS does not believe it has jurisdiction over the child care providers in question. 4. Would activities to organize home-based child care providers be covered under the National Labor Relations Act (NLRA)?  Answer: The NLRA has a very specific process for collecting signatures, verifying those signatures, and holding elections to determine representation. The NLRA applies broadly to private employees and private employers but specifically exempts public employees, independent contractors, and some private entities that don’t operate in interstate commerce. The question over whether home-based child care providers are covered or exempt under the NLRA is somewhat open depending upon whether they are classified as independent contractors and/or how and to what extent their business operates in interstate commerce. Given the small size and limited operation of most self-employed home-based child care providers, it is questionable whether they would be covered because their interstate commerce activities would be very limited. The question of whether they are independent contractors would depend on how they have organized their business and how they operate it. The following is a link to an information brief I did on private sector labor relations awhile ago, but the basic facts are still up to date. http://www.house.leg.state.mn.us/hrd/pubs/prvlabor.pdf
  • 3. Research Department September 13, 2011 Minnesota House of Representatives Page 3 5. What are the federal anti-trust issues?  Answer: A preliminary review of available information on the issue of organizing home-based child care providers, suggests that there is an issue in the discussion that involves federal anti trust laws. The issue surrounds the prohibition of independent contractors from organizing or negotiating collectively unless there is a specific state provision that effectively creates an exemption from the anti trust provisions to accomplish a public policy goal of the state. 6. What are the implications of executive orders? Answer: Many of the “executive orders” issued in other states include very specific language specifying that the child care providers are not public employees. This gives rise to the question that if the providers were not public employees, what would the “representation” mean in Minnesota, and more specifically, what would be the source of the health care coverage or potential pension benefits that organizers are discussing. See the note below based on a conversation with the AFSCME representative regarding possible sources of health care benefits. Based on much of the material written and blogged regarding activities in other states, and the understanding of the issue by Cyndi Cunningham and other Minnesota child care providers, the “exclusive representative” is generally more of an advocacy, lobbying role on issues like higher child care assistance subsidies, expedited payments to providers and enhanced training opportunities—than a traditional wage and hour collective bargaining role. There have been limited instances where the providers were deemed “quasi” public employees for certain purposes, but they generally did not extend to insurance coverage, public pension benefits, workers compensation coverage, unemployment benefits and the like. One of the main concerns expressed by some of the providers in Minnesota is assuming that they would be assessed for dues or fees, what would they be getting in return? 7. What are the issues surrounding union dues and public child care subsidies?  Answer: Among the day care providers with whom I’ve made contact, the two main concerns center upon the process under which they were convinced to sign a card of support and the potential dues or fees that they would be asked to pay. Some states, including Michigan initially, set up a system under which the dues/fees were deducted from the public child care subsides paid to day care providers. That practice has been stopped in Michigan, and, according to Danyell Punelli (the child care subsidy person in House Research), federal law prohibits union dues or other fees from being deducted from federal child care development fund resources (CCDF) and there is no authority in Minnesota’s state law that would authorize those deductions. The only information that I was able to get regarding the process was anecdotal information from opponents and proponents of organizing. Depending on which side the person was on, the process was either very bad, or just fine. 8. What are the unions saying?  Answer: I spoke with Eric Lehto, the AFSCME official in charge of organizing who told me that their activity was not a “card check” campaign. Since these are
  • 4. Research Department September 13, 2011 Minnesota House of Representatives Page 4 all independent employers, there would be no employer to present the card to. Instead, he characterized the cards as indicators of support for an organization. When I asked if and how they contemplated collecting dues or fees from potential members, the response was that they did not know how that would occur. I also asked how AFSCME believed that health care benefits or pension benefits could be obtained for in home providers since they were clearly not public employees or public employers and the response was that as a large group, there could be the potential for negotiating a group rate with a private insurer. I have contacted SEUI, but have not heard back from them as of this writing. 9. What questions remain?  Answer: There are clearly more questions surrounding this issue than answers at this time. I was unable to verify either affirmatively or negatively whether the governor would issue an executive order on this issue. The biggest question is if there were to be an executive order on this issue, what would it mean? Given the current law provisions under PELRA and the child care subsidy law, without a legislative change, it seems unlikely that private, home-based child care providers could be public employers or public employees. And, given the information from the child care subsidy experts, since federal law does not allow payment of union dues or other fees from federal child care money and since state law lacks an authorization to do so, that the deduction of dues or fees from subsidy checks would be problematic. 10. What are some possible next steps?  Answer: There are a number of things that may be considered going forward, including:  Amending PELRA to specifically exclude in-home child care providers is a possible approach but carries some potential consequences. The biggest concern would be that a court would conclude that because child care providers had a specific exemption, then anyone without a specific exemption would be included.  Language could be added to chapter 119B (the child care assistance law) to specifically prohibit the deduction of union dues or other similar fees from state or local child care subsidy payments.  Language could be added to the child care program law to prohibit the state or counties from contracting with non-public entities for a certain child care related activities. This would require carefully crafted language to ensure that it applied only to the types of organizations desired and not to existing non- profits and others who provide contracted child care training and assistance services for example.  As mentioned above, more research needs to be done into the anti-trust issue since that appears to be an emerging issue/argument across the country. AN/jv