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Thai888 Law Company April 2018 1
COMPANY
Thai888 intro
Life
Probate
Case studies
Monkhouse
 This presentation is for general information
only and is not legal advice;
 The presenter may waffle from time to time
and this should not be construed as fact but
rather as embellishments to this rather dry
and at times boring subject;
 The case studies herein are based on true life
experiences, approval has been given to use
them for educational purposes.
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 2 offices in the View Talay 5D Building
Jomtien
◦ Office 10 for Wills, Funeral Services and Probate
◦ Office 12 for Criminal, Civil, Family, Company &
Consumer LAW, other issue
 2 Lawyers
 2 Law Graduates
 2 Notary
 4 Office staff – 2 Funeral Services Staff
 Registered with the DBD as Thai888 Law Co.
 1 foreigner Work Permit to work in Law Office
Thai888 Law Company April 2018 3
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No
health
issues
Thai888 Law Company April 2018 5
No money just party
Travel, back
packing, on
the trail = On
5 bucks a day
 Your whole life has been spent creating an
identity
 Birth Certificate
 School
 Bank account
 First major purchase – a car, license, insurance
 Criminal activity DUI?
 University? loans
 GF and marriage
 First house - mortgage
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 Assets grow
 Start family – bills mount - budget
 Save for the future
 Pay into government pensions
 Insurance –health -life
 Investment portfolio – security
 Planning for the future
 And if you make it through the gauntlet, you
may get to retire in Pattaya
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 Then life stops and the process is reversed
 Your identity, your assets are all about to
change
 Fail to plan - plan to fail
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 You have insurance for health, car, house so why
not a Will;
 A Will is insurance to make sure your wishes are
carried out to the letter of the Law;
 Some say I don’t have anything so why make a
Will -
 Thai Law or International Law – don’t confuse the
two;
 Thai Law is that the Will and the Executor must
go to Thai Court;
 This is todays subject;
 Probate.
Thai888 Law Company April 2018 9
What can possibly go wrogn?
Thai888 Law Company April 2018 10
ข้าพเจ้า ถือหนังสือเดินทางของประเทศสหราชอาณาจักร บริเตนใหญ่ และไอร์แลนด์เหนือ เลขที่ เกิดวันที่ มีนาคม ปัจจุบันพักอาศัยอยู่ที่ นอร์ทชอร์คอนโดมิเนียม เลขที่ หมู่ที่ ห้องเลขที่
ถนนพัทยา บีช ซอย ตาบลหนองปรือ อาเภอบางละมุง จังหวัดชลบุรี ข้าพเจ้ามีสติสัมปชัญญะ จิตใจและร่างกายที่สมบูรณ์ดี จึงขอทาพินัยกรรมและคาสั่งเสียฉบับนี้ สาหรับทรัพย์สมบัติทุก
ชนิดและทุกรูปแบบที่เป็นของข้าพเจ้าซึ่งมีอยู่ในในขณะที่ข้าพเจ้าเสียชีวิตหรือที่มิได้ระบุเอาไว้ภายในพินัยกรรมฉบับนี้ ให้มีผลตามกฎหมายแพ่งและพาณิชย์แห่งประเทศไทยข้าพเจ้าขอ
ยกเลิกพินัยกรรมฉบับอื่นๆที่ได้ทาก่อนหน้าพินัยกรรมไทยฉบับนี้
Any ideas as to what this could mean?
Thai888 Law Company April 2018 11
 Last Will and Testament
 ยำ ้ทด ุสบ ับฉย ีสเง ่ัสำคะลแมรรกย ัน ิพ
 Made at Pattaya City
 ่ ่ีทำทเมืองพัทยำ
 I, #########################, holder of passport of #############,
number #################, date of birth XXXXXXXXXXX, currently residing
at ###########, unit number ########, Village number #########,
############### Sub-District, ########### District, Chonburi Province,
Thailand, 20150, being of sound mind and body do hereby make, publish and
declare this to be my Last Will and Testament and any assets that I may have in
Thailand only …………and not mentioned in this Last Will and Testament is
included ……..comes under the Civil and Commercial Code of Thailand. I
revoke any of my Wills and Codicils that I have previously made in Thailand.
This Will covers Thailand only.
 GET used to it as most Docs are in Thai or may need
to be translated by the Dept. Foreign Affairs
Thai888 Law Company April 2018 12
 Family, Friends,
Mourning,
 Apply to the Courts
 Grant of Probate
 Wind up Estate
 Send money back
O/S = AMLO
 Lets have a look at
what can go wrong
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 Death, Police
 Contact NOK,
Embassy, Hospital,
Temple, Cremation
– most in Thai
 Case Study 1  No Will or badly
written Will
 My Mother’s Will
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Hand writing not my
mothers
Thai888 Law Company April 2018 16
 Result: Is this Will
valid?
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 Codicil:
 Which Will was
ruled valid by the
Supreme Court of
Queensland
Australia?
Thai888 Law Company April 2018 18
 This one!
 On April 13th 2018
this ruling over
turned
 COSTS to date
15,503 AUD
 & no decision
Thai888 Law Company April 2018 19
 Will invalid
 Only 1 witness to a
typed Will
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Prior approval given to use as
example
 Will ruled invalid
 Died intestate
 Succession Law
 Children have to
prove their ID
 5 Court hearings
 Resign as Executors
 Appoint me via POA
as Executor
 Court appoints me
Thai888 Law Company April 2018 21
 Positives
 Executor or Co
Executor
 NO conflict of
interest
 Probate wrapped up
4/4/2018
 PCEC 50% discount
Died in Thailand – no Will
 Hiding assets from the IRS
 2 passports 2 ID’s
 International assets
LOCKED
 No black book with codes,
addresses to trace assets
 Land, houses, bank
accounts = gone
 Banks will not release funds
without Court order
 Other countries will require
you to make Probate in that
country = $$$$$$
Thai888 Law Company April 2018 22
Cayman
Island acc.
2nd
passport
 Probate
 6 months to gain trust
 All done through
phone, fax, internet –
save costs
 Judge required
 Mother / Father /
sister BC, Marriage
Cert.
Passport/License/relati
onship to deceased/
notarised / legalised /
translated / cert. Dept.
Foreign Affairs etc. etc.
 Be careful how well you
hide assets
 Ongoing April 2018
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 Excellent accounts
 Meticulously kept
 Mixed UK and Thai
assets
 Tax implications
 Partner/Wife
 UK tax 40%
 Spreadsheet coded
 ***KBB??
 4 or 6 digits
 Internet accounts
 Frozen
 DC Thai Dept. FA
for O/S banks
Thai888 Law Company April 2018 24
 Trusted 3rd Party
 You cant just give
things to people -
 Book, envelope,
DropBox – with all
info in it in plain
Engrish
Thai888 Law Company April 2018 25
 Monkhouse – Pre
Paid – UP2U
 Thai888 – one stop
Company – 2
offices and staff to
handle all issues
 THANK YOU and
Questions please?
Thai888 Law Company April 2018 26

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Thai888 law company presentation

  • 1. Thai888 Law Company April 2018 1 COMPANY Thai888 intro Life Probate Case studies Monkhouse
  • 2.  This presentation is for general information only and is not legal advice;  The presenter may waffle from time to time and this should not be construed as fact but rather as embellishments to this rather dry and at times boring subject;  The case studies herein are based on true life experiences, approval has been given to use them for educational purposes. Thai888 Law Company April 2018 2
  • 3.  2 offices in the View Talay 5D Building Jomtien ◦ Office 10 for Wills, Funeral Services and Probate ◦ Office 12 for Criminal, Civil, Family, Company & Consumer LAW, other issue  2 Lawyers  2 Law Graduates  2 Notary  4 Office staff – 2 Funeral Services Staff  Registered with the DBD as Thai888 Law Co.  1 foreigner Work Permit to work in Law Office Thai888 Law Company April 2018 3
  • 4. Thai888 Law Company April 2018 4
  • 5. No health issues Thai888 Law Company April 2018 5 No money just party Travel, back packing, on the trail = On 5 bucks a day
  • 6.  Your whole life has been spent creating an identity  Birth Certificate  School  Bank account  First major purchase – a car, license, insurance  Criminal activity DUI?  University? loans  GF and marriage  First house - mortgage Thai888 Law Company April 2018 6
  • 7.  Assets grow  Start family – bills mount - budget  Save for the future  Pay into government pensions  Insurance –health -life  Investment portfolio – security  Planning for the future  And if you make it through the gauntlet, you may get to retire in Pattaya Thai888 Law Company April 2018 7
  • 8.  Then life stops and the process is reversed  Your identity, your assets are all about to change  Fail to plan - plan to fail Thai888 Law Company April 2018 8
  • 9.  You have insurance for health, car, house so why not a Will;  A Will is insurance to make sure your wishes are carried out to the letter of the Law;  Some say I don’t have anything so why make a Will -  Thai Law or International Law – don’t confuse the two;  Thai Law is that the Will and the Executor must go to Thai Court;  This is todays subject;  Probate. Thai888 Law Company April 2018 9
  • 10. What can possibly go wrogn? Thai888 Law Company April 2018 10
  • 11. ข้าพเจ้า ถือหนังสือเดินทางของประเทศสหราชอาณาจักร บริเตนใหญ่ และไอร์แลนด์เหนือ เลขที่ เกิดวันที่ มีนาคม ปัจจุบันพักอาศัยอยู่ที่ นอร์ทชอร์คอนโดมิเนียม เลขที่ หมู่ที่ ห้องเลขที่ ถนนพัทยา บีช ซอย ตาบลหนองปรือ อาเภอบางละมุง จังหวัดชลบุรี ข้าพเจ้ามีสติสัมปชัญญะ จิตใจและร่างกายที่สมบูรณ์ดี จึงขอทาพินัยกรรมและคาสั่งเสียฉบับนี้ สาหรับทรัพย์สมบัติทุก ชนิดและทุกรูปแบบที่เป็นของข้าพเจ้าซึ่งมีอยู่ในในขณะที่ข้าพเจ้าเสียชีวิตหรือที่มิได้ระบุเอาไว้ภายในพินัยกรรมฉบับนี้ ให้มีผลตามกฎหมายแพ่งและพาณิชย์แห่งประเทศไทยข้าพเจ้าขอ ยกเลิกพินัยกรรมฉบับอื่นๆที่ได้ทาก่อนหน้าพินัยกรรมไทยฉบับนี้ Any ideas as to what this could mean? Thai888 Law Company April 2018 11
  • 12.  Last Will and Testament  ยำ ้ทด ุสบ ับฉย ีสเง ่ัสำคะลแมรรกย ัน ิพ  Made at Pattaya City  ่ ่ีทำทเมืองพัทยำ  I, #########################, holder of passport of #############, number #################, date of birth XXXXXXXXXXX, currently residing at ###########, unit number ########, Village number #########, ############### Sub-District, ########### District, Chonburi Province, Thailand, 20150, being of sound mind and body do hereby make, publish and declare this to be my Last Will and Testament and any assets that I may have in Thailand only …………and not mentioned in this Last Will and Testament is included ……..comes under the Civil and Commercial Code of Thailand. I revoke any of my Wills and Codicils that I have previously made in Thailand. This Will covers Thailand only.  GET used to it as most Docs are in Thai or may need to be translated by the Dept. Foreign Affairs Thai888 Law Company April 2018 12
  • 13.  Family, Friends, Mourning,  Apply to the Courts  Grant of Probate  Wind up Estate  Send money back O/S = AMLO  Lets have a look at what can go wrong Thai888 Law Company April 2018 13  Death, Police  Contact NOK, Embassy, Hospital, Temple, Cremation – most in Thai
  • 14.  Case Study 1  No Will or badly written Will  My Mother’s Will Thai888 Law Company April 2018 14
  • 15. Thai888 Law Company April 2018 15 Hand writing not my mothers
  • 16. Thai888 Law Company April 2018 16  Result: Is this Will valid?
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  • 18.  Codicil:  Which Will was ruled valid by the Supreme Court of Queensland Australia? Thai888 Law Company April 2018 18
  • 19.  This one!  On April 13th 2018 this ruling over turned  COSTS to date 15,503 AUD  & no decision Thai888 Law Company April 2018 19
  • 20.  Will invalid  Only 1 witness to a typed Will Thai888 Law Company April 2018 20 Prior approval given to use as example
  • 21.  Will ruled invalid  Died intestate  Succession Law  Children have to prove their ID  5 Court hearings  Resign as Executors  Appoint me via POA as Executor  Court appoints me Thai888 Law Company April 2018 21  Positives  Executor or Co Executor  NO conflict of interest  Probate wrapped up 4/4/2018  PCEC 50% discount
  • 22. Died in Thailand – no Will  Hiding assets from the IRS  2 passports 2 ID’s  International assets LOCKED  No black book with codes, addresses to trace assets  Land, houses, bank accounts = gone  Banks will not release funds without Court order  Other countries will require you to make Probate in that country = $$$$$$ Thai888 Law Company April 2018 22 Cayman Island acc. 2nd passport
  • 23.  Probate  6 months to gain trust  All done through phone, fax, internet – save costs  Judge required  Mother / Father / sister BC, Marriage Cert. Passport/License/relati onship to deceased/ notarised / legalised / translated / cert. Dept. Foreign Affairs etc. etc.  Be careful how well you hide assets  Ongoing April 2018 Thai888 Law Company April 2018 23
  • 24.  Excellent accounts  Meticulously kept  Mixed UK and Thai assets  Tax implications  Partner/Wife  UK tax 40%  Spreadsheet coded  ***KBB??  4 or 6 digits  Internet accounts  Frozen  DC Thai Dept. FA for O/S banks Thai888 Law Company April 2018 24
  • 25.  Trusted 3rd Party  You cant just give things to people -  Book, envelope, DropBox – with all info in it in plain Engrish Thai888 Law Company April 2018 25
  • 26.  Monkhouse – Pre Paid – UP2U  Thai888 – one stop Company – 2 offices and staff to handle all issues  THANK YOU and Questions please? Thai888 Law Company April 2018 26