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L.A. Chiropractor Murdered at His Office; Robert Rainey, a Doctor, Found by his Patient Brutally
Beaten and Died Shortly
Aired August 3, 2012 - 20:00 ET
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UPDATED.
RITA COSBY, HLN HOST: And breaking news tonight out of Los Angeles. A beloved chiropractor
from a prominent family -- his father a lead Hollywood actor, his brother a columnist for "The LA
Times" -- the doctor`s practice on Venice Boulevard was thriving until a patient shows up for an 8:00
AM appointment to find the doctor, Dr. Robert Rainey, lying on the lobby floor, severely beaten
within an inch of his life. ER doctors try everything to save him, but it`s too late.
Reports surface he doesn`t have a single enemy, even helping the homeless and giving patients care
who can`t afford it. Who would want this doctor dead?
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well loved West Side chiropractor Dr. Robert Rainey.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Most patients want to know what is the cause of their pain.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Walked in the office and found Dr. Rainey lying on the floor.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Brutally beaten, with head injuries, his teeth knocked out, and bleeding.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: His jaw was broken, and he was missing teeth.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He was already dead.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Who would beat someone so badly?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Detectives have no motive and no suspects.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Detectives are looking at the possibility that someone followed Rainey
into his office.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Police collected boxes of evidence.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It`s a beating police say is particularly brutal, and they don`t have much to
go on.

2. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have no witnesses to the actual crime.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What you know about chiropractic is mostly likely second-hand information.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Breaks my heart how people, you know, so cruel.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Detectives asked for security camera video from the surrounding area. They
have not made any arrests.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Investigators say a motive is still unclear.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
COSBY: And good evening, everybody. I`m Rita Cosby, in for Nancy Grace. Thank you so much for
being with us tonight.
A stunning murder mystery out of Los Angeles, a successful chiropractor beaten to death, and no
suspects, few clues. Let`s go straight to Alexis Tereszcuk. She`s the senior reporter from
Radaronline. Alexis, tell us what happened here.
ALEXIS TERESZCUK, RADARONLINE.COM: This is such a shocking tragedy. Chiropractor Rainey --
he is a well respected man in the community, goes to work at 7:00 AM. Patient shows up at 8:00 AM,
finds him beaten and bloody on the ground of -- in the lobby of his office.
His head is smashed in. His teeth are missing. They`ve been possibly kicked in. His jaw is broken.
The paramedics are called. They arrive. They take him to the hospital. They rush to save his life, and
unfortunately, he died in the hospital.
His family is devastated. His brother is actually a reporter with "The Los Angeles Times," and it said
that this man did not have a single enemy. He was loved by everyone.
Not only did he have a lot of patients, he would take patients that didn`t have enough money to pay
their bill, do it for free, or maybe take $5, just out of the kindness of his heart. He helped the
homeless. He was a marathon runner. He was the whole package, everything that you could
imagine, not a single enemy in the world, no one that would want to harm him. And he was brutally
murdered right in his office in broad daylight, in the morning.
COSBY: It is absolutely incredible, and obviously, a big, big mystery today for everybody, especially
including his family.
Barbara Schroeder, investigative reporter, give us a sense of the scene of this lobby of Dr. Rainey`s
place. And again, as we hear, we heard that a patient comes in for their appointment and sees him.
Can you describe sort of the scene?
BARBARA SCHROEDER, INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER: Yes, this was a commercial area. It wasn`t
particularly -- not a lot of activity that early in the morning. But it was a regular strip mall, and he
was -- his office was on the second floor. It was next to a nail salon and there was a Mercury car
insurance place, and it was right above a Blockbuster.
So it was one of those places where you feel totally safe walking. In fact, if you talk to people around
the neighborhood, they say, Look, this is not an area where you feel uncomfortable. You can walk

3. your dogs around here, you can -- you know, even early in the morning, although now, some of the
people who are working in that area -- and one lady who owns a business there -- have said, you
know, now they`re not feeling that safe.
And there -- you know, this -- this was just such -- imagine walking in for your appointment at 8:15
and finding your doctor lying there on the floor with -- as you said, within an inch of his life, and you
know, calling 911.
And interestingly, when the case was first brought in, it was brought in as an assault with great
bodily harm, and then it quickly turned into a case of homicide when he was brought in and passed
away.
COSBY: Oh! Andrew J. Scott, former chief of police in Boca Raton, Florida - - Andrew what always
concerns me -- and we`re just looking at the picture, we`re looking at now some of the injuries, too,
that happened to him. All this damage to him -- he`s a big guy. We were hearing from Alexis he`s a
marathon runner. And yet it`s 7:00 o`clock or 8:00 o`clock -- we`re not exactly sure. We have at
least a timeframe -- daylight, and Venice Boulevard -- I`ve been to that area of Los Angeles many
times. That`s busy street, lots of traffic. It`s a very popular boulevard.
What do you piece together from this, Andrew?
ANDREW J. SCOTT, FORMER CHIEF OF POLICE, BOCA RATON: There`s a couple of interesting
things, based on everything that you`ve just mentioned, first being that it`s during the course of the
day, early in the morning. There doesn`t appear to be any type of forced entry, from what I
understand, and it seems as if the doctor knew or was familiar with who did this to him. The other
thing is...
COSBY: Now, why do you think that? Because of no forced entry? Is that the reason you`re basing
that on, Andrew?
SCOTT: That`s what I`m beginning to base it on, and that`s just -- obviously just a supposition at this
juncture. But here`s the second thing. The type of beating that he received usually is indicative of
some type of great passion, meaning that it`s up close, it`s personal.

4. And normally, we see this -- these types of
crimes and this type of beating relative to
somebody who knows -- the victim knows who
did this or there`s some type of great
animosity by the person who`s perpetrated
this. So there is some familiarity between the
victim and the perpetrator.
COSBY: You know, and I want to go through
the injuries again, too, as we were just
hearing -- head smashed, teeth missing, jaw
broken. Andrew, I agree. I mean, it sounds
like somebody who really was going after
him, not just maybe a random crime. What do
you think?
SCOTT: I agree with you on that. I don`t
think it`s necessarily a random crime.
Clearly, the crime scene is going to give more information to the police relative to what was taken, if
anything. And it doesn`t sound like anything was really taken.
So this is a real perplexing type of crime, but it`s a crime that I think is ultimately going to be able to
be solved. It`s just obviously done by the thorough police work by the police in this case.
COSBY: Alexis Tereszcuk, there was also an interesting voicemail message, correct, that was left --
this was actually the message on his sort of answering machine that people were calling. Just kind of
tell us about that.
TERESZCUK: This voicemail, I believe, was somebody that has not been identified, questioning his
whereabouts. And it`s said that he was then going to be out of the office -- I`m sorry (INAUDIBLE)
with the exact details about -- it`s the time in the morning, 7:30 in the morning, and we`re going to
be out of the office, which is really strange because this isn`t something that he normally would have
done. He has an office that was open.
COSBY: Yes, it is an interesting thing. And then when you open the door and you sort of hear this --
Eleanor Odom, prosecutor, death penalty-qualified prosecutor, he leaves a message, apparently, Dr.
Rainey, saying, you know, I`m going to be back in the office at this time. If you want to make an
appointment -- on one hand, maybe that`s signaling something to somebody, if they`re listening. On
the other hand, I think that`s sort of standard for doctors to do, but that could open the door to
something here, or provide a clue.
ELEANOR ODOM, PROSECUTOR: Well, I think it`s something to really look at, especially if it`s
something out of the ordinary. If it`s not...
COSBY: Well, and the other thing is -- the other thing, too...
(CROSSTALK)
COSBY: ... time that this happened because they believe it happened in the morning. They believe he

5. arrived there sometime around 7:00-ish or so, obviously based on his message. That was his plan.
And then the patient walks in at 8:00, this other (ph) 8:00 o`clock. So the time is certainly a narrow
window, and maybe someone who heard the voice message might have known that.
ODOM: Well, exactly right. And it also sort of makes me believe that it was somebody he knew that
was there and that he -- that this awful murder occurred. It just looks to me that way because, you
know, maybe he was -- had decided to meet somebody at his office early. Maybe he was getting
there a little earlier than usual.
I`d want to know what his pattern was of when he normally arrived at the office and if he ever had
breakfast meetings, or you know, met other people there, friends, whatever, at that time of day. All
of these things will be very important in trying to determine exactly when the murder occurred and
who potentially could have been the murderer.
COSBY: Let`s go to Jack Regan, brother-in-law of the victim, Dr. Robert Rainey. And first of all, Jack,
we are so sorry for your loss. He just sounds like such an incredible guy, a big guy, too, and someone
also with a big heart, from what we understand.
What was his pattern? Can you -- you know, as we were talking about sort of was this unusual that
he was going to the office at 7:00, or is that sort of a normal thing for him?
JACK REGAN, VICTIM`S BROTHER-IN-LAW (via telephone): I really can`t give any -- I really don`t
know. I really couldn`t comment on that. I knew Robert...
COSBY: Do you know, was there anybody angry at him, Jack? Do you know if there was anyone who
had expressed any anger or any frustration at him personally?
REGAN: I know of no one that was angry at Robert. I don`t know how you could be. I don`t know
how anyone could be. He was just very kind, and even if he didn`t talk to you, he always had this
great, big smile on his face, so -- constantly, every time I saw him.
I can`t understand why this occurred, just want to ask people out there in Venice Boulevard and the
Culver City area to cooperate with the LAPD, who I think is doing a great job and helping my sister a
lot, do anything that they saw that morning, or they can recall seeing anything or anybody in that
area, to please call the LAPD and give them a hand.
COSBY: Yes, absolutely. And if anyone has information, call authorities on this because this is
certainly a mystery, and someone needs to be brought to justice.
Let`s go to Ginger Campbell. She`s a former patient of Dr. Robert Rainey. She is with us. And
Ginger, you know this area, right? You`ve been to this office, correct, many times.
GINGER CAMPBELL, FORMER PATIENT (via telephone): Oh, yes, many times.
COSBY: Yes, give us a sense sort of, as someone who`s been there, what -- you know, when I see
some of the pictures of it, it`s in a strip mall. We were just hearing from Alexis, you know, there`s a
nail salon nearby, there`s all these other things. And again, this is in daylight. What would it have
been like at 7:00 AM or 8:00 AM? We don`t -- you know, we sort of know this window, this
timeframe.
CAMPBELL: Well, I used to have a standing 8:00 o`clock in the morning appointment with him, and I

6. usually had it on Wednesdays. And you know, when you go there, I mean, there`s not very many cars
in the lot simply because, you know, a lot of the businesses don`t open until 9:00. But it wasn`t a
situation where you felt, you know, kind of, like, creepy or anything. It just was not real busy in that
parking lot. But Venice Boulevard, as you mentioned earlier, was just hopping along.
COSBY: Describe that strip mall, too. Like, it looks like there`s other businesses nearby. The stairs
go up on the side.
CAMPBELL: Right.
COSBY: It looks...
(CROSSTALK)
CAMPBELL: ... the stairs go up on the side. I`ve gone up there in the morning and seen, you know,
but (ph) I think it was a guy who worked at the nail salon who was just there early. You know, so
you`re aware that there - - that it`s quiet and you pay attention when you see people because you
don`t see very many people when you walk up and down those stairs.
But there`s a Blockbuster. I mean, by 10:00 o`clock, 11:00 o`clock in the morning, it`s just thriving
because there`s an In and Out Burger (ph) in that strip mall. There`s a Blockbuster downstairs.
There`s a lot of, you know, businesses on the second level also, where his office was.
COSBY: And his office was in the middle, too, correct?
CAMPBELL: Correct.
COSBY: (INAUDIBLE) middle upstairs. So someone has to kind of go up the stairs and go in the
middle, right, to get to his location.
CAMPBELL: Right. I mean, you have to walk past all those businesses to get to where he is. So I
mean, it`s not like you`re not visible.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Detectives checked businesses for possible security video of a suspect.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Grainy video of someone walking up to Rainey`s car.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Beloved chiropractor...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Detectives believe that the man followed Rainey up the stairs to his office.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A patient found Rainey beaten so badly, his jaw was broken and he was
missing teeth.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
COSBY: And I`m Rita Cosby, in for Nancy Grace. A beloved chiropractor found beaten to death in

7. the lobby of his office, and his office is on a very busy street in LA. He`s also a member of a very
prominent family and has many, many friends. And right now, there`s a reward for any information
on this. It`s so much of a mystery.
Let`s go back to Alexis Tereszcuk with Radaronline. The one thing I find is interesting, as we were
just talking -- here it is. It looks like a pretty visible area, Alexis. The office -- you know, the office is
there in the middle of this strip mall.
What do we know about surveillance video? Did anyone see anything suspicious that day, Alexis?
TERESZCUK: You know, I have been in this strip mall many times at the In and Out restaurant, and
it is one of -- it`s probably one of the most public streets in Los Angeles.
COSBY: Now, where`s the In and Out, upstairs or downstairs?
TERESZCUK: It`s downstairs...
COSBY: OK.
TERESZCUK: ... to the left of his office.
COSBY: But in that same location...
TERESZCUK: Absolutely.
COSBY: ... same strip mall. So give us a sense here -- you`re -- you know, you`re a woman. You`re
walking in. Would you feel comfortable going at 7:00, 8:00 AM?
TERESZCUK: A hundred percent, absolutely. This is -- this is a very open area. As I said, it`s one of
the busiest streets in the city. So the -- and there aren`t trees in front of the buildings or anything
like that. It`s very open.
COSBY: What about surveillance cameras? Because one thing I look at -- and you see this
Blockbuster video. You see these cameras. You would imagine that there would be somebody who
catches something on one of these office cameras.
TERESZCUK: And you would think that. But this is sort of a terrible tragedy in this case. The police
are saying that, unfortunately, a lot of the cameras were not working or functioning at that time. And
unfortunately, they say, if they had been...
COSBY: Oh!
TERESZCUK: ... they were sure that they would have caught the perpetrator. But they don`t have
the video for this.
COSBY: Oh! How heart-breaking! Andrew Scott, former chief of police of Boca Raton, how often
does that happen? I mean, you look at -- here`s a pretty wide open location. You would think that
there`s probably surveillance video, you know, getting it from all different angles, you know, a
cornucopia of surveillance video. And they weren`t working? How often does that happen?
SCOTT: It happens more frequently than we would care to think about. And that is one of the more

8. frustrating things about law enforcement investigations. With the technology that we have today,
you would be expecting it to work. And if it`s not working -- clearly, they could have apprehended or
had a better idea as to who may have perpetrated this crime. So it`s frustrating and it`s not a
stumbling block, where they`re not going to be able to pursue other leads, but it is frustrating from
law enforcement perspective.
COSBY: Yes, you bet. It makes it so much more difficult. Barbara Schroeder, investigative reporter,
time of death -- they do believe it was between, you know, these two different times. Give us a sense
of -- have they narrowed the window and why?
SCHROEDER: Any time you have officials saying that the person expired shortly after arrival at a
hospital, it usually means 10 to 15 minutes. So I`m guessing that somebody walked in between 8:00
and 8:15. They had that appointment. They saw him lying there. They must have been completely,
you know -- you know, shocked. And they called 911, 911 arrived, and then they quickly took him to
the hospital. So I would estimate it must have been shortly -- like, 8:30, something like that, when he
passed away, and...
COSBY: And Barbara what about -- what about time of attack, too? What about -- have they narrowed
that window for the time of attack?
SCHROEDER: Yes, and I actually have a source who shared with me a little bit of information. And
they believe that something happened between 7:00 and 8:00 o`clock in the morning, which would
exactly let you -- you know, you could see the timeline, that he gets there between 7:00 and 8:00
o`clock. Somebody`s there. Something happens. And then they attack him. And then 911 is called.
So in that hour, hour-and-a-half was -- that was the crucial time there, in the -- you know, the tragic
last hours of Robert Rainey.
COSBY: Dr. Bill Manion, New Jersey medical examiner, you know, doing an autopsy on him, you can
confirm that timeframe. We would that that`s what happened because, you know, he walks in the
door. That`s his routine. He even leaves it on his voice message. But from a forensic standpoint, you
can also verify that pretty much sort of the sense of the timing, correct?
DR. BILL MANION, MEDICAL EXAMINER: Yes. We can get some idea, when we do the autopsy to
look at the blood clots to try to get an idea of how long the person had been bleeding, had he
aspirated a lot of blood. And I suspect he also has skull fractures and probably bleeding on the brain
that caused his death.
COSBY: Can you also tell, Dr. Manion -- defensive wounds -- one of the things we were hearing -- his
a big guy, a very healthy -- a marathon running, you know, great athlete. You would imagine that
there was probably some sort of a struggle. Can you tell if there was a struggle or if it was a surprise
attack?
MANION: I haven`t heard anything about the autopsy with defensive wounds, but if he was
assaulted, you know, with a pipe or a bar of some type, we would expect to see fractured fingers or
bruising to show that he put up a fight. Now, this is a big man. He`s 6-2, 220 pounds. And
apparently, I think he got hit from behind and was knocked out, and then they continued - - person
or persons continued to beat him.
There may be blood spatter on this individual. A lot of times, when a person`s beaten like that, blood
will spatter back. And if they can find this guy, check his clothes, check his shoes, they may be able

9. to really pinpoint the perpetrator just from blood stains.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Beaten to death at his office.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A killer left the doctor on the floor, brutally beaten with head injuries.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Investigations carry out bags of evidence from the crime scene.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: His murder caused shock for his patients.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A wonderful man. I just can`t believe it!
(END VIDEO CLIP)
COSBY: A community in shock after a very beloved chiropractor -- finally, he is discovered by a
patient who walks in -- 8:00 o`clock in the morning, walks into his office, going in there for an
appointment and discovers this wonderful doctor. And at that point, he is dying, appears to be a
very, very severe beating -- broken teeth, head, jaw broken, all these major problems. And now the
question is, Who did it?
Let`s go to Alexis Tereszcuk with Radaronline. Alexis, were there any signs? Because as we`re
looking at this just horrible beating that happened to him -- head trauma, broken jaw -- again, he
died shortly after he gets to the hospital.
Was there any sign that he had struggled with somebody, any bruises on his body beyond sort of this
surprise attack? Is there anything to signal that the other person would have damage to him or her?
TERESZCUK: No. So far, from what the police have said, that it was all an upper body injury,
especially the head and especially -- you know, the way that it was described from the beginning is
that his teeth were kicked in. Not even just that he was missing teeth, but they were kicked in,
which is an incredibly vicious and violent attack on this man.
But that`s it. There aren`t any descriptions of, as you would say, defense wounds on the hands or
anything like that. It is all straight on his head.
COSBY: You know, Andrew Scott, former chief of police, this does look particularly brutal. One of the
things we were just hearing about, sort of the blood splattering -- you would imagine whoever did
this, there would be blood on their clothes.
SCOTT: Yes. Depending on what tool or instrument or part of their body was used, there`s going to
be some type of blood transfer. That blood spatter is very helpful from an evidentiary perspective.
Particularly, there`s different types of blood spatter and directionality, and there may be high-
velocity blood spatter, which means it came back onto the clothing of the individual, that`ll be very
helpful for the law enforcement folks if they should find this evidence.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

10. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Dr. Robert Rainey affected everyone he met.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He was a prominent chiropractor.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Brutally beaten, with head injuries, his teeth knocked out and bleeding.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, my goodness! A wonderful man. I just can`t believe it!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The investigation is ongoing, but they are treating this as a homicide.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
COSBY: And a beloved doctor`s right on a busy street. Daylight, he has found nearly beaten to death
and died shortly thereafter at the hospital. Who could have done this?
Well for an overview, let`s go to Barbara Schroeder, investigative reporter.
Barbara, give us again a sense of what happened so that anyone out there, if they have any clues
they can give us a call. Call authorities of course, first and foremost because this is very suspicious.
BARBARA SCHROEDER, INVESTIGATIVE
REPORTER: And as one officer put us, this was
an especially vicious beating, so you have
someone who was a well-loved person, a well-
loved doctor, walks into his office, and Rita, it
might somebody who inflicted as specially vicious
attack on him with who knows, was it with his
fist, with the ball bat, with the pipe. There was
some reports that somebody was seen in the area
with the ball bat and pipe. Those reports are still
being investigated.
They need a lot more information. They need
somebody to come forward to say I saw
somebody walking down the street with what
looked like a ball bat or a pipe or I heard
something. You know, this is the kind of
information that investigators are desperately
needed right now. So that they can turn this into
a much more efficient investigation and hopefully
find the person who did this. If anybody has any
information, every little bit of information, if you
saw somebody walk by, you know, everything helps right now.
I have been working on a project recently with the CSI, believe this investigator over the Beverly
Hills police department and it is fascinating how they look at the way the wounds inflicted and that
tells them a lot about the person and a lot about the motive. This wasn`t the case as somebody

11. saying hey, I want to rob this guy and punch him on the gut. This was somebody who was fiercely
angry. And, you know, probably didn`t mean to kill Dr. Rainey, but again, not meeting to and then
this happening, two completely different things.
COSBY: And the result is so equally horrible. Nothing justifies this in any shape or form.
Andrew Scott, I want to ask because here is this beloved doctor, it doesn`t sound like from anybody
who knew him that there was really anybody out to get him, where do you look? Do you go - you look
at patients, I`m sure? You look at maybe somebody in the area, you look at, you know, maybe a
robbery, you look at homeless people, you look at anybody, right at this opponent? You lock at
neighbors, you`ve spot to cash a huge nest.
ANDREW SCOTT, FORMER CHIEF OF POLICE: Exactly. The investigation is going to reveal who his
enemies might have been. Who his contacts were? And let`s go back to this issue of helping the
homeless. And you know, this might not be a far out theory, but perhaps was of the homeless
individuals came to the office wanting some money, he couldn`t give it to him and then there was
this spontaneous reaction.
They`re going to listen to all sorts of things. They are going to listen to his voice mails. They are
going to look at his e-mails. Obviously, they want to see how extensive his relationship was with the
homeless community and who might have had a bone defect with him, so to speak, from the
homeless avenue.
A lot of avenues to search, a lot of good old fashion police work ahead of them
COSBY: You know, it is so heart breaking. Here is this man who is helping the homeless, doing all
these incredible things. He sounds like a great humanitarian, and if it turns out to be somebody tied
to that, it just despicable, it shameful and it`s just horrible.
Let go to Regina Olivas. She is a good friend of the victim, Robert Rainey.
And first of all, Regina, thank you for being with us. We are so sorry for your loss because he seems
like just such a wonderful man.
REINA OLIVAS, ROBERT RAINEY`S FRIEND (via phone): Yes. He was a very wonderful man. He
was joy to be around.
COSBY: How did you found out, Regina? How did you found out the news.
OLIVAS: Unfortunately, Peg and I work together, we`re nurses and we have a lot of colleagues in
common and peg was away in Congress fence and they were trying to track her down to let her
know that this had happened.
COSBY: And Peg is his wife?
OLIVAS: Peg is his wife, correct. Yes. So they contacted me to see if I had been in contact with him
recently. And I said, yes, I just spooky with them. But, you know, is there a problem? Do I need, you
know, they said we need to get a hold of Peg and then they told me what happened that Robert had
been killed in his office which was unbelievably, I was in shock. I couldn`t even believe it so. They
asked me if I could get a hold of Peg and bring her back home.

12. COSBY: What a hard thing, you know as a friend, to be able to tell your dear friend this terrible
news. It must have been heart breaking.
OLIVAS: I won`t forget it.
COSBY: How is she doing How is the rest of the family doing?
OLIVAS: Peg is a very courageous you woman. She is very strong. She is hanging in there. She want
this is solved. She wants to know, you know, who would do something like that and most of us, if
they can catch them, get them off the vote streets. So this person won`t harm anyone else. This has
some resolution to it.
COSBY: Regina, was there anyone who was angry at him for whatever reason, whether it was a
homeless person or somebody who did something crazy obviously. But was there someone who had
any grudge with him or anything that the family can point to say, well, this is the area?
OLIVAS: No, not nothing, it`s just a complete blank. There`s no one who would have anything to
really say negatively about Robert. And he was bigger than life. He was, you know, he was always
happy and willing to help people and I can`t even imagine why this would happen.
COSBY: And Jack Regan, brother in law of the victim, Robert Rainey. You know, he was also a great
athlete. My father who recently passed away from cancer, my father ran 33 marathons in his days
and was always really impressed with the fact. But your brother in law, ran 25 marathons and do
these ultra marathons. I mean, he was in amazing shape, correct?
JACK REAGAN, ROBERT RAINEY`S BROTHER IN LAW (via phone): Yes, he was. He was incredible
shape. He did some things I couldn`t believe. He told me you run. I remember my sister ran the
Grand Canyon up and down one side to the other. That shocked me. He was in incredible shape for
his age and I just couldn`t believe some of the things he could do.
COSBY: Climb Mount (INAUDIBLE) too, correct? I mean, this was a guy who was really, was
certainly fit and someone who could you would imagine be able to try to fight of somebody if he had
some warnings.
REGAN: No doubt. He would have.
COSBY: What do you think may have happened? Is there anything that you as a friend and a family
member thinks happened?
REGAN: I really don`t know why this -- why this happened. It was obvious he was attacked from
behind and I don`t know why anyone would do it or why this would have happened. I met move
above there with my sister right after the tragedy and met a lot of his patients and his friends like
Regina and I just can`t imagine what would caused this.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It breaks my heart.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Someone beat this beloved chiropractor to death. Another patient found

13. Rainey lying on his office floor early Thursday morning, beaten so badly, his jaw was broken and he
was missing teeth.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Who would beat someone so badly.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
COSBY: A stunning murder mystery out of L.A., a very beloved and well known doctor, a
chiropractor there, who had been there about 20 years, had sort of a regular routine. And now in the
middle of the morning, of broad daylight, somewhere between 7:00 and 8:00 a.m. someone comes
into his office, beats him to death. A patient walks in. He is an inch from death at that point, dies
later in the hospital. But has teeth punched in. A gaffe, a big, big beating on his head. Who would
have done this and why would someone do this?
Let`s go to Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst. She is also the author of "dale breakers" as well. You
know Bethany, what do you think when hear this, because it is such a violent crime and to do it
suddenly in the middle of the morning?
BETHANY MARSHALL, PSYCHOANALYST, AUTHOR, DEAL BREAKERS: Well, I mean, whoever did
this had extreme rage, wanted to deface him, hit him about the face and the chest. Kicked out or
knocked out his teeth and then took his wallet which is an act of petty co contempt. So, probably
didn`t need the money but they took something vital to get through his day.
So, I think that what we see with violent crimes, they`re usually motivated by either envy or
jealousy. Envy is you have something I want and I`m either going to take it from you destroy you for
having it. You have helped. You have wealth. You are a good person. You come from a great family.
You could have gotten me that settlement that I wanted because of my injury, you didn`t do it. You
ran the marathon faster. Whatever it is, envy is the strong motivator and then there`s jealousy.
Jealousy is you interfere an important love relationship. My wife went to you for treatment and you
looked at her, you flirted with her and now she`s talking about you all the time.
So, the two most primitive emotions, envy and jealousy often play a very important role when you
look at homicide. Now, someone brought up the idea of the homeless population with which he was
really intimately engaged.
COSBY: Yes, what do you think of that? What do you think of somebody coming in and maybe there
was some grudger or just, you know, maybe it is a robbery or something? What do you think?
MARSHALL: Well, I think there`s careful research in this area, and we do know that when a health
care worker is killed by somebody who was mentally ill, most likely that person`s diagnosis will be
paranoid schizophrenia. So, it could have been someone who he was helping, who developed an
attachment, was lingering around in the early morning hours. Maybe, it spent the night there. And
then had some kind of a command hallucination, although there are some question about whether or
not those that is really a viable theory. But that they felt that they were on a mission from God to say
the very least, to kill this chiropractor. But most likely, the mode and manner of death, the kicking
into the teeth, are really speaks to personal rage from someone who is highly organized, mentally
intact and motivated.
COSBY: It`s just so sad. It was so -- and my heart just breaks for him and obviously for his family,
tremendously.

14. Alexis Tereszcuk, senior reporter with radar online. Was anything else taken? There was a wallet
missing, correct?
ALEXIS TERESZCUK, SENIOR REPORTER, RADARONLINE.COM: Yes, you`re right and Bethany
Marshall is exactly right. His wallet was taken. So, this has his ID and This credit card, his cash.
Anything that police are used immediately to trace a crime.. So, this is a huge clue for them. This is
something that could potentially lead them to the suspect and this is something they have been
looking into from the beginning. But this was the one thing that was taken, just his wallet. He has an
entire office. He was the only one there. Nothing of any value was taken from the office, just the
wallet.
COSBY: And I think that is interesting, Alexis. Give us some like a rundown sort of some of the other
things that were in the office. Because here it is, this is a facility, a chiropractor, any medications,
other things in there that might be appealing to a certain type of individual?
TERESZCUK: Yes, you are exactly right. There`s medicine in there. There`s also expensive
equipment. There is any sort of, you know it, there be it, a needle, anything that anybody that had
perhaps a drug problem would want to take. Lots of things. They could have a field day in there. And
especially if it was quiet in the morning and there were not a lot of people around, this could be an
opportunity to take something. But the only thing that the police have told us, that was taken was his
wallet.
COSBY: You know, Andrew Scott, when you hear this, former chief of police of Boca Raton, Florida.
You go wait a minute, just the wallet taken. You got a whole office there. You`re by there, you`re
obviously doing a brutal crime, you`re beating this guy to death, and that`s a very brutal crime and a
very visible crime. It`s in the lobby, there you can see there`s glass right there in front of his place.
Why would that person not take other things if the motive was robbery?
SCOTT: Well, and there`s the question that needs to be answered, was robbery the motive --
COSBY: What about of being staged? Could it have been staged?
SCOTT: Well, that`s where I was headed. It could be staged because it`s not so important what was
taken, but what wasn`t taken, it all leads into perhaps a staged robbery.
COSBY: And now to tonight`s CNN heroes.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
RAZIA JAN, COMMUNITY CRUSADER: In Afghanistan, most of the girls have no voice. They are
used as property of a family. The picture is very grim.
My name is Razia Jan and I`m the founder of a girl`s school in Afghanistan.
When we opened the school in 2008, 90 percent of them could not write their name. Today, 100
percent of them are educated. They can read, they can write. I lived in the U.S. for over 38 years but
I was really affected by 9/11. I really wanted to prove that Muslims are not terrorists.
I came back here in 2010. Girls had been the most oppressed and I thought, I have to do something.
It was a struggle in the beginning. I would sit with these men and I would tell them, don`t marry
them when they`re 14 years old. They want to learn.

15. How do you write your father`s name?
After five years now, the men, they`re proud of their girls. When they themselves can write their
names.
Very good.
Still we have to take this -- some people are so much against girls getting educated. Free education
to over 350 girls.
I think it`s like a fire and it will grow, every year my hope becomes more. I think I can see the
future.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Most patients want to know what is the cause of their pain.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Walked in the office and found Dr. Rainey lying on the floor.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Brutally beaten with head injuries. His teeth knocked out and bleeding.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Jaw broken and he was missing teeth.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Investigators say a motive sun clear.
(END VIDEO CLIP) COSBY: I`m Rita Cosby in for Nancy Grace.
Let`s go back to the defense attorneys.
Renee Rockwell, we are just hearing from Peter sort of saying maybe it is a random crime, although
it is in the middle of the strip mall. It is early in the day. What do you think? Do you think it was
someone who just stumbled upon, or was targeting him, maybe knew his routine.
And also, the other thing, Renee, if it is a petty crime, and right, you know, they don`t know where is
- there is so many angles to look at for authorities. If it is a petty crime, that makes it even harder to
trace, don`t you think?
RENEE ROCKWELL, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, yes. I don`t think it was random at all. But let not
forget about the power of a reward. This happened on --
COSBY: Big money, big money right now, which is great.
ROCKWELL: May 31st, maybe there was not a lot of attention about this, but folks will snitch on
their sister or brother for rewards. So you are doing a great service just to the family by putting it
out there. Now, the fact that while it was taken, that might just be to divert the police attention.
COSBY: Do you think that was staged? I think that may have been staged. A stranger didn`t taking

16. any else.
ROCKWELL: I think it might have been staged. But I certainly they are they are going to go over,
such a hard thing to do with so many people going in and out of the office, you know a public place,
it was the number of patients, but I think they will painstakingly go through any DNA that they can
find and try to eliminate the patients and try to see if it is someone that has been in trouble before.
COSBY: That`s going to be a tough. There are a lot of places to look at in this case, unfortunately.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They say a patient found the doctor Rainey lying on his office beaten to
death at his office on Venice boulevard.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Detectives have not said exactly why they think someone murdered Rainey.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Detectives have grainy video of someone walking up to Rainey`s car the
morning after the murder after he parked.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
COSBY: And I`m Rita Cosby, in for Nancy Grace.
A beloved chiropractor, suddenly well, one of his patients shows up for an appointment at 8 a.m. and
sees the doctor there, barely alive. He has been brutally beaten in the lobby of his office. And it is in
the morning. You know, sunlight, busy road, Venice boulevard, a very, very popular area of Los
Angeles and also from a very prominent family.
Let`s go to Dr. Bill Manion, New Jersey medical examiner. What do you think the autopsy can sort to
pin point who did this horrible crime to this man. Do you believe that you will be able to determine,
was it a bat? Was it another sharp object? Was it a rod? What could have done this caused this
severe beating to him?
DOCTOR BILL MANION, M.D., NEW JERSEY MEDICAL EXAMINER: Well, oftentimes, instruments
will leave a pattern. We call them pattern injuries. And for instance, a pipe is struck against the face
will leave indentation, oftentimes, you will be able to see a skull fracture, too, caused by a pipe or a
bat, if that was used.
So, that will give us some clue. And I suspect he had a skull fracture and probably internal bleeding
of the brain. And as the brain is pushed by the blood, the respiratory center will stop and unless, you
know, you are able to get that blood off the brain, the person will die.
So I suspect he died of head injuries. He may haves aspirated some blood if he was beaten also in
the face, we have breathed blood in. But in my opinion, probably the head injury and skull fracture.
COSBY: Well, I hope authorities solve this soon and bring whoever did this horrible thing to justice.

17. And tonight, everybody, let`s stop to remember Army specialist Kevin Hardin, 25-years-old from
Jupiter, Florida. A frontline combat medic. He served in Iraq, and was award the purple heart, the
combat medic badge, and the army commendation medal.
He loved racing his Shelby cobra mustang and also his bull terrier. He leaves behind parents, Terry
and Charles, his brothers Kenneth, Kyle and Keith, who is also serving in the army.
Kevin Hardin, a true American hero.
And I want to thank all of you for your very kind words about the recent death of my own hero, my
father, Lieutenant Richard Cosby. He was a prisoner of war in World War II. He was a polish
resistance fighter against the Nazis and he was eventually saved by American troops.
And in his honor, we are raising money for the USO, helping wounded troops and their families. Go
to quiethero.org. You click on the words quiet hero there or click on the USO box. Again, go to USO
box or quiet hero on quiethero.org. Be sure to say in memory of Richard Cosby, my father.
I`m Rita Cosby. I`m in for Nancy Grace. Jane Velez-Mitchell is coming up next. Don`t touch that dial.
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