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Religious Freedom: The Difference Between Indiana's Law and All the Others
1. Religious Freedom: The Difference Between Indiana's Law
and All the Others
Gov. Mike Pence and other supporters of Indiana's "Religious Freedom Restoration Act" have made a
simple point in defense of their law -- that a slew of other states, plus the federal government, have
the same law on the books and that Barack Obama as a state senator voted for it in Illinois.
In Arkansas, meanwhile, Republican Gov. Asa Hutchinson said he would not sign his state's
"Religious Freedom Restoration Act" until the legislature changed it to more closely mirror the
federal law.
So what's the difference between all the rest of the laws -- on the federal books and in 19 other
states -- and the two more recent, similar bills in Indiana and Arkansas?
Opponents and observers make a few major cases for why these two new laws are different from the
rest.
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Infographic: How do other state laws compare to Indiana's Religious Freedom Act?
1. INDIANA'S LAW APPLIES TO COMPANIES; OTHERS DON'T
2. "This bill is substantively different," said Adam Talbot, spokesman for Human Rights Campaign
(HRC), the D.C.-based gay rights group. "It is the broadest and most dangerous legislation of its
kind."
The main difference, gay-rights advocates say, is this: Indiana's law expressly applies to
corporations.
Into the weeds we go: The federal law signed by President Bill Clinton, and the similar Religious
Freedom Restoration Acts (RFRAs) in 19 other states, do not say they apply to corporations,
according to gay-rights advocates. Instead, they apply to people.
The laws say the government has to prove a higher standard of government interest in applying laws
that may infringe on a person's free exercise of their religion. In Indiana, SB 101 also included
"corporations" in the list of entities that can sue.
After the Supreme Court ruled in its Hobby Lobby decision that "closely held" corporations can act
on religious beliefs, it's unclear whether other RFRA laws about individuals now also apply to
corporations. But in Indiana, that definition has been expanded beyond the narrower definition in
Hobby Lobby to include all corporations and associations.
"We want certainty under this law," said Travis Weber, director of the Center for Religious Liberty at
the socially conservative Family Research Council, explaining why supporters of the bill want that
corporate application included. "We want this to be resolved in our law, so we're going to
specifically define 'person' as businesses."
Of the 19 states with similar laws, only Indiana's and South Carolina's statedly apply to corporations,
according to a quick ABC review of all the laws.
2. IN SOME OTHER STATES, NONDISCRIMINATION LAWS TRUMP 'RELIGIOUS FREEDOM' LAWS
"If there is a nondiscrimination law" already on the books, says Lambda Legal National Law and
Policy Director Jenny Pizer, "that law should be enforceable and enforced notwithstanding any
religious claim."
Pizer says her organization, a pro-gay-rights advocacy and legal-defense group, has found that
nondiscrimination laws typically trump RFRA laws in court.
But Indiana has no statewide law barring discrimination based on sexual orientation, and only a
handful of its counties have nondiscrimination laws at the local level. According to Pizer, that means
there's no protection from discrimination by companies--where in some other states, there is.
Four states, among the 20 that have RFRA laws, also have statewide laws that protect from sexual-
orientation discrimination, per the Human Rights Campaign. In other states, pro-gay-rights legal
advocates have sought to get courts to interpret sex-discrimination laws as applying to cases
involving sexual orientation, but that's not always a lock.
"We haven't seen that play out in the context of sexual orientation nondiscrimination," said Weber.
"It has not been played out at a definitive level yet."
Anti-discrimination lawsuits are often interlaced with other constitutional rights, so it's tough to say
definitively whether wedding vendors are allowed to deny services to gay couples, for instance, in
3. other states that don't have statewide anti-LGBT-discrimination statutes.
3. THE POLITICAL CONTEXT IS DIFFERENT, AND SO ARE THE POLICY AIMS
Indiana's top two Republican legislators denied on Monday that SB 101 was a consolation prize for
social conservatives after a failed effort to ban gay marriage in the state. They also said it wasn't
intended to have anything to do with denying services to gays and lesbians.
The other side sees things differently, but it's clear that the context was different when Bill Clinton
signed the federal bill--proposed by then-congressman Chuck Schumer, now a longtime Democratic
senator from New York--into law in 1993.
The 1993 law is seen as a response to a 1989 Supreme Court ruling, Employment Division v. Smith,
against two Native American drug-rehab counselors who had taken peyote, defending that action by
saying it was in keeping with their religion.
That ruling, Pizer said, led to a liberal-supported push to for a "religious freedom" law that would
protect the exercise of minority religions. The focus was not Christianity, necessarily.
"The general idea on the left was, in order to have equal concern and for people of minority faiths to
be able to live in ways consistent with their beliefs," Pizer said, U.S. laws needed "to have a
heightened test that challenges religious-neutral law when they're applied against people of minority
faiths."
In a later Supreme Court case, that federal law was ruled not to apply in state courts, so states
began passing laws of their own.
The gay-rights movement was smaller in those days, and gay marriage was less common and not
legally recognized, so the idea of preventing Christian bakers from having to serve cakes at gay
weddings wasn't really on the radar.
"The president himself has said that his views on this have evolved," said Ted Ruger, dean of the
University of Pennsylvania Law School, pointing out how dramatically the politics and policies
surrounding gay marriage has evolved over the last 10 to 15 years.
"The issue of the wedding photographer, or the wedding-cake maker, was just not an issue until the
last five years, so that's the fundamental difference," Ruger said.
In other words, the laws were originally passed for a different policy reason, amid a much different
political context.
4. THE INDIANA LAW APPLIES TO PRIVATE DISPUTES
In declining to sign his state's Religious Freedom Restoration Act, Hutchinson pointed out that the
bill differed from federal law in that it applied to private disputes, not just governmental action.
Indiana's law is the same way. While other state's RFRA laws make it more difficult for the
government to enforce laws when those laws incidentally infringe on religious beliefs, Indiana's
applies to disputes between people, or between people and businesses.
Gay-rights advocates make that point, raising the idea that for this reason, Indiana's law more
4. directly applies in cases where a private company denies services to a private individual.
A clause in Indiana's SB 101 states that the law applies "regardless of whether the state or any other
governmental entity is a party to the proceeding"--in other words, it could apply in private, civil
suits.
Olivia Smith contributed to this report.
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