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Vermont Associationof School Business Officials (VASBO)
Richard Pembroke, President; CFO Southwest Vermont Supervisory Union
Bob Mason, Past President; COO Chittenden South Supervisory Union
Grant Geisler, Past President; CFO Chittenden Central Supervisory Union
Senate Education Committee Testimony - March 18, 2015
Dear Committee Members,
Thank you for the opportunity to provide input on H.361.
We apologize we are unable to meet with you in person and ask you to accept this written
testimony. We would be available to meet with the committee in coming weeks if you have any
questions. We are testifying today as representatives of VASBO and are not speaking on behalf of
our respective supervisory unions, their member districts, board members or superintendents.
In regards to H.361, we offer the following:
Dollar Equivalent – Sec 2: While we are in favorof simplifying the tax rate calculation, there is
great debate on how this will work and ultimately the outcomes it will provide. VASBO has not
formulated a position on the dollar equivalent proposal and are not convinced it would significantly
simplify the calculation; therefore, VASBO has not reached a consensus on this section.
Property Tax Rates and Base Education Amount – Sec 6 & 7: We support the proposed fiscal
year 2016 (FY16) tax rates and base education amount as they represent the assumptions that were
used in our budget preparations. If it is estimated that the rates could be slightly lower, we still
recommend maintaining the stated rates and using any residual funds to offset what could be a
significant base rate increase forFY17 to accommodate universal prekindergarten implementation
costs.
Integrated Education Systems – Sec 17: Since 2010, VASBO has advocated forsingle, unified
preK-12 school districts. We feel this governance structure would maintain or increase opportunities
forstudents and result in significant cost savings. We are encouraged that H.361 would create such
districts.
Tax Incentives – Sec 18: The tax incentives forRegional Education Districts seem to have helped
generate interest and conversation regarding voluntary mergers. We are not sure of the
effectiveness of the incentives, but are certainly not opposed to them. Assuming the incentives
remain in place, we are in favor of using the same incentives forIntegrated Education Systems.
Education Spending Cap – Sec 27: paragraphs (a) and (b): We want to make sure you, and all
Legislators, are aware of our concerns in this area. While we understand the desire to set limits on
spending, we are opposed to the language regarding an education spending cap forthe following
reasons:
1. Current Excess Spending Threshold – This cap is already in place and has been reduced
each year since FY14. In FY15, the statutory multiplier was reduced from 125% to 123%.
In FY16, the anchor year was established as FY14 versus the most recent prior year. In
FY17, the statutory multiplier will drop from 123% to 121%.
2. An Unfair Cap – H.361 proposes a two percent (2%) limit on education spending per
equalized pupil. The same percentage limitation would be imposed regardless of whether
you are a low-spending district or a high-spending district resulting in different real dollar
limitations which would be more challenging to low-spending districts.
3. An Unrealistic Cap – The 2% limit is unrealistic for several reasons:
a. In FY17, districts will be facedwith increased costs related to implementation of
universal preschool and the potential requirement to pay 100% of dual enrollment
costs.
b. The equalized pupil hold harmless language will decrease the number of pupils for
several districts in FY17 which will dramatically increase their education spending
per equalized pupil.
c. “Local revenues” are factoredinto education spending per equalized pupil. Most
districts have been developing tighter budgets which results in less surplus to roll
forward as revenue. This reduces local revenues and increases education spending
per equalized pupil.
4. Loss of Local Control – This cap will, in essence, predetermine the budget forschool
districts.
5. Confusion over “deemed to have failed to pass” language – If a budget exceeds the 2%
limit, do you still put it out to vote? Does it fail regardless of the outcome? If the budget
exceeds the 2% limit do you simply say it failed and put another budget out as a re-vote?
Can the re-vote budget exceed the 2% limit?
6. Borrowing for Operating Costs – Current language prohibits borrowing foroperating costs
if the budget exceeds the 2% limit. What are districts supposed to do in order to make
payroll or cover must-pay bills like utilities?
We understand there has already been activity to change the formula for the cap. The most recent
language we heard was changing it to 1.5% on either Education Spending or Education Spending per
Equalized Pupils. This proposal is no better than the original forall the same reasons we have stated
above. We strongly urge you to work with the Agency of Education to make the Excess Spending
Threshold more effective. VASBO believes this is the most effective cost containment tool the
formula has if it is properly structured.
In closing, we want to thank you all foryour time and inform you that VASBO wants to continue to
be a part of this conversation. We want to be a resource and help you understand the business side
of public education in Vermont. Please call on us if we can be of any assistance as you navigate
through the session.
We would be happy to answer any questions that we can.
Respectfully submitted,
RichardCPembroke,Jr
BobMason
GrantGeisler

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Senate Ed VASBO Testimony - Mar 18 2015

  • 1. Vermont Associationof School Business Officials (VASBO) Richard Pembroke, President; CFO Southwest Vermont Supervisory Union Bob Mason, Past President; COO Chittenden South Supervisory Union Grant Geisler, Past President; CFO Chittenden Central Supervisory Union Senate Education Committee Testimony - March 18, 2015 Dear Committee Members, Thank you for the opportunity to provide input on H.361. We apologize we are unable to meet with you in person and ask you to accept this written testimony. We would be available to meet with the committee in coming weeks if you have any questions. We are testifying today as representatives of VASBO and are not speaking on behalf of our respective supervisory unions, their member districts, board members or superintendents. In regards to H.361, we offer the following: Dollar Equivalent – Sec 2: While we are in favorof simplifying the tax rate calculation, there is great debate on how this will work and ultimately the outcomes it will provide. VASBO has not formulated a position on the dollar equivalent proposal and are not convinced it would significantly simplify the calculation; therefore, VASBO has not reached a consensus on this section. Property Tax Rates and Base Education Amount – Sec 6 & 7: We support the proposed fiscal year 2016 (FY16) tax rates and base education amount as they represent the assumptions that were used in our budget preparations. If it is estimated that the rates could be slightly lower, we still recommend maintaining the stated rates and using any residual funds to offset what could be a significant base rate increase forFY17 to accommodate universal prekindergarten implementation costs. Integrated Education Systems – Sec 17: Since 2010, VASBO has advocated forsingle, unified preK-12 school districts. We feel this governance structure would maintain or increase opportunities forstudents and result in significant cost savings. We are encouraged that H.361 would create such districts. Tax Incentives – Sec 18: The tax incentives forRegional Education Districts seem to have helped generate interest and conversation regarding voluntary mergers. We are not sure of the effectiveness of the incentives, but are certainly not opposed to them. Assuming the incentives remain in place, we are in favor of using the same incentives forIntegrated Education Systems. Education Spending Cap – Sec 27: paragraphs (a) and (b): We want to make sure you, and all Legislators, are aware of our concerns in this area. While we understand the desire to set limits on spending, we are opposed to the language regarding an education spending cap forthe following reasons: 1. Current Excess Spending Threshold – This cap is already in place and has been reduced each year since FY14. In FY15, the statutory multiplier was reduced from 125% to 123%.
  • 2. In FY16, the anchor year was established as FY14 versus the most recent prior year. In FY17, the statutory multiplier will drop from 123% to 121%. 2. An Unfair Cap – H.361 proposes a two percent (2%) limit on education spending per equalized pupil. The same percentage limitation would be imposed regardless of whether you are a low-spending district or a high-spending district resulting in different real dollar limitations which would be more challenging to low-spending districts. 3. An Unrealistic Cap – The 2% limit is unrealistic for several reasons: a. In FY17, districts will be facedwith increased costs related to implementation of universal preschool and the potential requirement to pay 100% of dual enrollment costs. b. The equalized pupil hold harmless language will decrease the number of pupils for several districts in FY17 which will dramatically increase their education spending per equalized pupil. c. “Local revenues” are factoredinto education spending per equalized pupil. Most districts have been developing tighter budgets which results in less surplus to roll forward as revenue. This reduces local revenues and increases education spending per equalized pupil. 4. Loss of Local Control – This cap will, in essence, predetermine the budget forschool districts. 5. Confusion over “deemed to have failed to pass” language – If a budget exceeds the 2% limit, do you still put it out to vote? Does it fail regardless of the outcome? If the budget exceeds the 2% limit do you simply say it failed and put another budget out as a re-vote? Can the re-vote budget exceed the 2% limit? 6. Borrowing for Operating Costs – Current language prohibits borrowing foroperating costs if the budget exceeds the 2% limit. What are districts supposed to do in order to make payroll or cover must-pay bills like utilities? We understand there has already been activity to change the formula for the cap. The most recent language we heard was changing it to 1.5% on either Education Spending or Education Spending per Equalized Pupils. This proposal is no better than the original forall the same reasons we have stated above. We strongly urge you to work with the Agency of Education to make the Excess Spending Threshold more effective. VASBO believes this is the most effective cost containment tool the formula has if it is properly structured. In closing, we want to thank you all foryour time and inform you that VASBO wants to continue to be a part of this conversation. We want to be a resource and help you understand the business side of public education in Vermont. Please call on us if we can be of any assistance as you navigate through the session. We would be happy to answer any questions that we can. Respectfully submitted, RichardCPembroke,Jr BobMason