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Breakdown: How a Vendor Hides
    Fees in Their „Free‟ 401(k)
   Presented by Michael Kiley, QPA, QKA




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Copyright 2011. All Rights Reserved.
Mike Kiley
Retirement Plan Consultant
mike.kiley@nyhart.com |(317) 845-3512

Qualifications or certifications:
American Society of Pension Professionals and
Actuaries (ASPPA) qualified pension administrator
(QPA) Qualified 401(k) Administrator (QKA); Series
65 licensed as a registered investment advisor
representative.
Today‟s Discussion   1. How do service providers get
                        paid?
                     2. Case Study 1 – Group Annuity
                        Product
                     3. Case Study 2 – Bundled Service
                        Provider
                     4. How this pertains to 408(b)(2)
                     5. What can you do now?

                                                         3
There is no
such thing as
   “free.”
How do
  vendors get
     paid?
Explicit Fees & Implicit Fees
How Do Vendors Get Paid?

Explicit Fees
• Stated fees (“Flat Fees” for service)
• Asset-based fees (As a % of plan assets)
• Transactional fees
  – “document fee”
  – “distribution fee”
  – “loan processing”
                                             6
How Do Vendors Get Paid?

Implicit Fees
• Revenue sharing from investments
   – Captured 12b-1 fees
   – Sub-ta fees
   – Shareholder service fees

• Fund management expenses
• Contract charges/wrap fees
• Sub-advisory fees
• Mortality expenses
                                     7
How Do Vendors Get Paid?

Other Charges
• Surrender charges
• Market Value Adjustments




                                 8
A Midwest-based electronics
             manufacturer‟s 401(k) Plan
               Plan highlights:
CASE STUDY
               •   ~ 100 employees

               •   ~ $5,000,000 in plan assets

               •   Plan assets are invested in a group annuity
                   product administered by a national insurance co.

               •   Standard 401(k) – no „special features‟

               •   Company pays no explicit/out-of-pocket expenses




                                                                      9
Investment Options & Associated
                                      Fees
                                                                         Expense Ratio
                                                             Market      (may include    Contract   Broker/Agent Administration
                            Investment Name
                                                             Value        SUB-TA and     Charge         Fee         Charge
                                                                          12B-1 Fees)

                American Funds Growth Fund of America       $750,000        0.68%        0.15%        0.25%         0.50%
                  American Funds Washington Mutual          $300,000        0.66%        0.15%        0.25%         0.50%
                   Blackrock Mid-Cap Equity Growth          $250,000        1.40%        0.05%        0.25%         0.50%
                           Fidelity Mid Cap                 $500,000        0.66%        0.55%        0.25%         0.50%
CASE STUDY




                 SSgA Russell Small Cap Growth Index        $100,000        0.06%        0.50%        0.25%         0.50%
                       Delaware Small Cap Value             $150,000        0.83%        0.30%        0.25%         0.50%
             American Funds Capital World Growth & Income   $550,000        0.81%        0.15%        0.25%         0.50%
                      Delaware Emerging Markets             $400,000        1.40%        0.30%        0.25%         0.50%
                 Delaware Limited-Term Diversified Inc      $450,000        0.62%        0.15%        0.25%         0.50%
                          Pimco Total Return                $300,000        0.71%        0.25%        0.25%         0.50%
                          American Balanced                 $250,000        0.65%        0.15%        0.25%         0.50%
                       Galliard Stable Value Fund           $1,000,000      0.50%        0.25%        0.25%         0.50%




                                                                                                                       10
What These Fees = in Real $
                                                                                                    Total Actual Total Expense
                           Investment Name                  Market Value    Expense   Additional
                                                                                                   Fund Expense        ($)


                American Funds Growth Fund of America         $750,000       0.68%      0.90%         1.58%        $11,850.00
                  American Funds Washington Mutual            $300,000       0.66%      0.90%         1.56%        $4,680.00
                   Blackrock Mid-Cap Equity Growth            $250,000       1.40%      0.80%         2.20%        $5,500.00
                           Fidelity Mid Cap                   $500,000       0.66%      1.30%         1.96%        $9,800.00
                 SSgA Russell Small Cap Growth Index          $100,000       0.06%      1.25%         1.31%        $1,310.00
CASE STUDY




                       Delaware Small Cap Value               $150,000       0.83%      1.05%         1.88%        $2,820.00
             American Funds Capital World Growth & Income     $550,000       0.81%      0.90%         1.71%        $9,405.00
                      Delaware Emerging Markets               $400,000       1.40%      1.05%         2.45%        $9,800.00
                 Delaware Limited-Term Diversified Inc        $450,000       0.62%      0.90%         1.52%        $6,840.00
                          Pimco Total Return                  $300,000       0.71%      1.00%         1.71%        $5,130.00
                          American Balanced                   $250,000       0.65%      0.90%         1.55%        $3,875.00
                       Galliard Stable Value Fund            $1,000,000      0.50%      1.00%         1.50%       $15,000.00


                                                                           $36,785 + $49,225          =$86,010


                                                                                                                      11
Let‟s Break Out the Fees!
                                                                                     Total Expense
                           Investment Name                  Market Value   Expense
                                                                                           ($)


                American Funds Growth Fund of America         $750,000     0.68%      $11,850.00
                  American Funds Washington Mutual            $300,000     0.66%       $4,680.00
                   Blackrock Mid-Cap Equity Growth            $250,000     1.40%       $5,500.00
                           Fidelity Mid Cap                   $500,000     0.66%       $9,800.00
                 SSgA Russell Small Cap Growth Index          $100,000     0.06%       $1,310.00
CASE STUDY




                       Delaware Small Cap Value               $150,000     0.83%       $2,820.00
             American Funds Capital World Growth & Income     $550,000     0.81%       $9,405.00
                      Delaware Emerging Markets               $400,000     1.40%       $9,800.00
                 Delaware Limited-Term Diversified Inc        $450,000     0.62%       $6,840.00
                          Pimco Total Return                  $300,000     0.71%       $5,130.00
                          American Balanced                   $250,000     0.65%       $3,875.00
                       Galliard Stable Value Fund            $1,000,000    0.50%      $15,000.00


                                                    Management Expense= $36,785



                                                                                                     12
Let‟s Break Out the Fees!
             • Total Fund Expense:$36,785.00
             • Recordkeeping Fees:
                Base Fee: $3,000.00
                Per Participant Fee: $50.00 ($5,000 total)
             • Total Recordkeeping Fees:$8,000.00

             • Custodial Fees:$2,500.00 (assume .05% of assets)
CASE STUDY




             • RIA Fees:$12,500.00(assume .25% of assets)

             • Less: Revenue Sharing Offset: ($10,000.00)

             Total Net Fees:$49,785.00

                                                                  13
Let‟s Break Out the Fees!

             What are the explicit fees:
             • $8,000 recordkeeping fee

             • $2,500 custodial fee
CASE STUDY




             • $12,500 RIA fee

             Often these explicit fees are compared to
             ‘free’!


                                                     14
Let‟s Break Out the Fees!

               What is the true apples-to-apples
                         comparison:
                           $86,010
CASE STUDY




                             vs.
                           $49,785



                                                   15
Annual Savings
                     $36,225 Annually
                            OR
             $362.25 per Participant Annually!!
CASE STUDY




                                                  16
A West Coast-based print
                shop‟s 401(k) Plan
              Plan highlights:
CASE STUDY
              •   ~ 150 participants,

              •   ~ $8 million in plan assets, standard 401(k) plan

              •   XYZ Mutual Fund Company provides bundled
                  services

              •   At least half of the investment options are
                  required to be proprietary XYZ mutual funds

              •   Client pays no explicit/out-of-pocket expenses




                                                                      17
Investment Options & Fee
                             Levels
                                                                  Fund
                    Investment Name              Market Value   Management   12b-1 Fee   Sub-ta Fee
                                                                 Expense
                 XYZ Large Cap Growth             $1,000,000      0.32%       0.50%        0.15%
                  XYZ Large Cap Value              $300,000       0.32%       0.50%        0.15%
                  ABC Mid-Cap Growth               $800,000       0.64%       0.25%        0.23%
                   DEF Mid Cap Blend               $500,000       0.26%       0.25%        0.03%
                  GHI Small Cap Growth             $600,000       0.77%       0.25%        0.23%
                   JKL Small Cap Value             $750,000       0.91%       0.00%        0.13%
CASE STUDY




             XYZ International Large Cap Blend     $825,000       0.45%       0.50%        0.15%
             XYZ International Mid Cap Growth      $400,000       0.79%       0.50%        0.15%
                  MNO Short Term Bond              $350,000       0.39%       0.25%        0.13%
                   PQR Inter Term Bond             $205,000       0.25%       0.00%        0.03%
                     XYZ Balanced                  $370,000       0.29%       0.50%        0.15%
                  XYZ Target Date Series          $1,000,000      0.14%       0.50%        0.15%
                    Stable Value Fund              $900,000       0.60%       0.00%        0.25%


                                                  $8,000,000




                                                                                              18
What Are The Real Costs in $
                                                                Total Investment   Total 12b-1 Total Sub-ta Total Revenue
                    Investment Name              Market Value
                                                                    Expense          Fee ($)     Fee ($)       Sharing

                  XYZ Large Cap Growth            $1,000,000        $9,700           $5,000      $1,500        $6,500
                   XYZ Large Cap Value             $300,000         $2,910           $1,500       $450         $1,950
                  ABC Mid-Cap Growth               $800,000         $8,960           $2,000      $1,840        $3,840
                    DEF Mid Cap Blend              $500,000         $2,700           $1,250       $150         $1,400
                  GHI Small Cap Growth             $600,000         $7,500           $1,500      $1,380        $2,880
                   JKL Small Cap Value             $750,000         $7,800             $0         $975          $975
CASE STUDY




             XYZ International Large Cap Blend     $825,000         $9,075           $4,125      $1,238        $5,363
             XYZ International Mid Cap Growth      $400,000         $5,760           $2,000       $600         $2,600
                  MNO Short Term Bond              $350,000         $2,695           $875         $455         $1,330
                   PQR Inter Term Bond             $205,000          $574              $0          $62          $62
                      XYZ Balanced                 $370,000         $3,478           $1,850       $555         $2,405
                  XYZ Target Date Series          $1,000,000        $7,900           $5,000      $1,500        $6,500
                     Stable Value Fund             $900,000         $7,650             $0        $2,250        $2,250

                                                                  $76,702          $25,100      $12,954 $38,054
                                                                             Used to pay for admin
                                                                                   expenses

                                                                                                                  19
Cost Comparison

             • Recordkeeping Fees:
                Base Fee: $3,000.00
                Per Participant Fee: $50.00 ($7,500 total)
             • Total Recordkeeping Fees:$10,500.00
CASE STUDY




             • Custodial Fees:$4,000.00 (assume .05% of assets)

             • Less: Revenue Sharing Offset: ($38,054.00)


             Excess Revenue to Offset Other Plan
             Expenses:$23,554.00
                                                             20
Annual Savings

                   $23,554 Annually
                          OR
CASE STUDY




             $157 Per Participant Annually!!




                                               21
The Impact of Section 408(b)(2)

• Understanding all plan fees can be complicated

• Excessive fees can erode away at your retirement

  savings!

• Plan Sponsors have a fiduciary obligation to know all

  fees and ensure fees are reasonable!

• Deadline for compliance with Section 408(b)(2) fee

  disclosure regulations is April 1, 2012              22
What Should You Do Now?

• Request disclosure of all fees from your vendor

• Benchmark your fees against other plans of similar

  size for reasonableness

• Request an independent review of your plan‟s fees

  and services



                                                       23
This concludes our discussion


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How Vendors Hide Their Fees In A "Free" 401(k)

  • 1. Breakdown: How a Vendor Hides Fees in Their „Free‟ 401(k) Presented by Michael Kiley, QPA, QKA www.nyhart.com Copyright 2011. All Rights Reserved.
  • 2. Mike Kiley Retirement Plan Consultant mike.kiley@nyhart.com |(317) 845-3512 Qualifications or certifications: American Society of Pension Professionals and Actuaries (ASPPA) qualified pension administrator (QPA) Qualified 401(k) Administrator (QKA); Series 65 licensed as a registered investment advisor representative.
  • 3. Today‟s Discussion 1. How do service providers get paid? 2. Case Study 1 – Group Annuity Product 3. Case Study 2 – Bundled Service Provider 4. How this pertains to 408(b)(2) 5. What can you do now? 3
  • 4. There is no such thing as “free.”
  • 5. How do vendors get paid? Explicit Fees & Implicit Fees
  • 6. How Do Vendors Get Paid? Explicit Fees • Stated fees (“Flat Fees” for service) • Asset-based fees (As a % of plan assets) • Transactional fees – “document fee” – “distribution fee” – “loan processing” 6
  • 7. How Do Vendors Get Paid? Implicit Fees • Revenue sharing from investments – Captured 12b-1 fees – Sub-ta fees – Shareholder service fees • Fund management expenses • Contract charges/wrap fees • Sub-advisory fees • Mortality expenses 7
  • 8. How Do Vendors Get Paid? Other Charges • Surrender charges • Market Value Adjustments 8
  • 9. A Midwest-based electronics manufacturer‟s 401(k) Plan Plan highlights: CASE STUDY • ~ 100 employees • ~ $5,000,000 in plan assets • Plan assets are invested in a group annuity product administered by a national insurance co. • Standard 401(k) – no „special features‟ • Company pays no explicit/out-of-pocket expenses 9
  • 10. Investment Options & Associated Fees Expense Ratio Market (may include Contract Broker/Agent Administration Investment Name Value SUB-TA and Charge Fee Charge 12B-1 Fees) American Funds Growth Fund of America $750,000 0.68% 0.15% 0.25% 0.50% American Funds Washington Mutual $300,000 0.66% 0.15% 0.25% 0.50% Blackrock Mid-Cap Equity Growth $250,000 1.40% 0.05% 0.25% 0.50% Fidelity Mid Cap $500,000 0.66% 0.55% 0.25% 0.50% CASE STUDY SSgA Russell Small Cap Growth Index $100,000 0.06% 0.50% 0.25% 0.50% Delaware Small Cap Value $150,000 0.83% 0.30% 0.25% 0.50% American Funds Capital World Growth & Income $550,000 0.81% 0.15% 0.25% 0.50% Delaware Emerging Markets $400,000 1.40% 0.30% 0.25% 0.50% Delaware Limited-Term Diversified Inc $450,000 0.62% 0.15% 0.25% 0.50% Pimco Total Return $300,000 0.71% 0.25% 0.25% 0.50% American Balanced $250,000 0.65% 0.15% 0.25% 0.50% Galliard Stable Value Fund $1,000,000 0.50% 0.25% 0.25% 0.50% 10
  • 11. What These Fees = in Real $ Total Actual Total Expense Investment Name Market Value Expense Additional Fund Expense ($) American Funds Growth Fund of America $750,000 0.68% 0.90% 1.58% $11,850.00 American Funds Washington Mutual $300,000 0.66% 0.90% 1.56% $4,680.00 Blackrock Mid-Cap Equity Growth $250,000 1.40% 0.80% 2.20% $5,500.00 Fidelity Mid Cap $500,000 0.66% 1.30% 1.96% $9,800.00 SSgA Russell Small Cap Growth Index $100,000 0.06% 1.25% 1.31% $1,310.00 CASE STUDY Delaware Small Cap Value $150,000 0.83% 1.05% 1.88% $2,820.00 American Funds Capital World Growth & Income $550,000 0.81% 0.90% 1.71% $9,405.00 Delaware Emerging Markets $400,000 1.40% 1.05% 2.45% $9,800.00 Delaware Limited-Term Diversified Inc $450,000 0.62% 0.90% 1.52% $6,840.00 Pimco Total Return $300,000 0.71% 1.00% 1.71% $5,130.00 American Balanced $250,000 0.65% 0.90% 1.55% $3,875.00 Galliard Stable Value Fund $1,000,000 0.50% 1.00% 1.50% $15,000.00 $36,785 + $49,225 =$86,010 11
  • 12. Let‟s Break Out the Fees! Total Expense Investment Name Market Value Expense ($) American Funds Growth Fund of America $750,000 0.68% $11,850.00 American Funds Washington Mutual $300,000 0.66% $4,680.00 Blackrock Mid-Cap Equity Growth $250,000 1.40% $5,500.00 Fidelity Mid Cap $500,000 0.66% $9,800.00 SSgA Russell Small Cap Growth Index $100,000 0.06% $1,310.00 CASE STUDY Delaware Small Cap Value $150,000 0.83% $2,820.00 American Funds Capital World Growth & Income $550,000 0.81% $9,405.00 Delaware Emerging Markets $400,000 1.40% $9,800.00 Delaware Limited-Term Diversified Inc $450,000 0.62% $6,840.00 Pimco Total Return $300,000 0.71% $5,130.00 American Balanced $250,000 0.65% $3,875.00 Galliard Stable Value Fund $1,000,000 0.50% $15,000.00 Management Expense= $36,785 12
  • 13. Let‟s Break Out the Fees! • Total Fund Expense:$36,785.00 • Recordkeeping Fees: Base Fee: $3,000.00 Per Participant Fee: $50.00 ($5,000 total) • Total Recordkeeping Fees:$8,000.00 • Custodial Fees:$2,500.00 (assume .05% of assets) CASE STUDY • RIA Fees:$12,500.00(assume .25% of assets) • Less: Revenue Sharing Offset: ($10,000.00) Total Net Fees:$49,785.00 13
  • 14. Let‟s Break Out the Fees! What are the explicit fees: • $8,000 recordkeeping fee • $2,500 custodial fee CASE STUDY • $12,500 RIA fee Often these explicit fees are compared to ‘free’! 14
  • 15. Let‟s Break Out the Fees! What is the true apples-to-apples comparison: $86,010 CASE STUDY vs. $49,785 15
  • 16. Annual Savings $36,225 Annually OR $362.25 per Participant Annually!! CASE STUDY 16
  • 17. A West Coast-based print shop‟s 401(k) Plan Plan highlights: CASE STUDY • ~ 150 participants, • ~ $8 million in plan assets, standard 401(k) plan • XYZ Mutual Fund Company provides bundled services • At least half of the investment options are required to be proprietary XYZ mutual funds • Client pays no explicit/out-of-pocket expenses 17
  • 18. Investment Options & Fee Levels Fund Investment Name Market Value Management 12b-1 Fee Sub-ta Fee Expense XYZ Large Cap Growth $1,000,000 0.32% 0.50% 0.15% XYZ Large Cap Value $300,000 0.32% 0.50% 0.15% ABC Mid-Cap Growth $800,000 0.64% 0.25% 0.23% DEF Mid Cap Blend $500,000 0.26% 0.25% 0.03% GHI Small Cap Growth $600,000 0.77% 0.25% 0.23% JKL Small Cap Value $750,000 0.91% 0.00% 0.13% CASE STUDY XYZ International Large Cap Blend $825,000 0.45% 0.50% 0.15% XYZ International Mid Cap Growth $400,000 0.79% 0.50% 0.15% MNO Short Term Bond $350,000 0.39% 0.25% 0.13% PQR Inter Term Bond $205,000 0.25% 0.00% 0.03% XYZ Balanced $370,000 0.29% 0.50% 0.15% XYZ Target Date Series $1,000,000 0.14% 0.50% 0.15% Stable Value Fund $900,000 0.60% 0.00% 0.25% $8,000,000 18
  • 19. What Are The Real Costs in $ Total Investment Total 12b-1 Total Sub-ta Total Revenue Investment Name Market Value Expense Fee ($) Fee ($) Sharing XYZ Large Cap Growth $1,000,000 $9,700 $5,000 $1,500 $6,500 XYZ Large Cap Value $300,000 $2,910 $1,500 $450 $1,950 ABC Mid-Cap Growth $800,000 $8,960 $2,000 $1,840 $3,840 DEF Mid Cap Blend $500,000 $2,700 $1,250 $150 $1,400 GHI Small Cap Growth $600,000 $7,500 $1,500 $1,380 $2,880 JKL Small Cap Value $750,000 $7,800 $0 $975 $975 CASE STUDY XYZ International Large Cap Blend $825,000 $9,075 $4,125 $1,238 $5,363 XYZ International Mid Cap Growth $400,000 $5,760 $2,000 $600 $2,600 MNO Short Term Bond $350,000 $2,695 $875 $455 $1,330 PQR Inter Term Bond $205,000 $574 $0 $62 $62 XYZ Balanced $370,000 $3,478 $1,850 $555 $2,405 XYZ Target Date Series $1,000,000 $7,900 $5,000 $1,500 $6,500 Stable Value Fund $900,000 $7,650 $0 $2,250 $2,250 $76,702 $25,100 $12,954 $38,054 Used to pay for admin expenses 19
  • 20. Cost Comparison • Recordkeeping Fees: Base Fee: $3,000.00 Per Participant Fee: $50.00 ($7,500 total) • Total Recordkeeping Fees:$10,500.00 CASE STUDY • Custodial Fees:$4,000.00 (assume .05% of assets) • Less: Revenue Sharing Offset: ($38,054.00) Excess Revenue to Offset Other Plan Expenses:$23,554.00 20
  • 21. Annual Savings $23,554 Annually OR CASE STUDY $157 Per Participant Annually!! 21
  • 22. The Impact of Section 408(b)(2) • Understanding all plan fees can be complicated • Excessive fees can erode away at your retirement savings! • Plan Sponsors have a fiduciary obligation to know all fees and ensure fees are reasonable! • Deadline for compliance with Section 408(b)(2) fee disclosure regulations is April 1, 2012 22
  • 23. What Should You Do Now? • Request disclosure of all fees from your vendor • Benchmark your fees against other plans of similar size for reasonableness • Request an independent review of your plan‟s fees and services 23
  • 24. This concludes our discussion ANY QUESTIONS?
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Editor's Notes

  1. Investment expense is a common fee that is often excluded
  2. OFFER THE REVIEW OF THE PLAN. BENCHAMARKING SERVICES OFFER
  3. Areas of Expertise Include: Cash Balance Plan Defined Benefit & Pension Defined Contribution & 401(k) Employee Stock Ownership Plan (ESOP) Flexible Spending, HRA & HSA Healthcare Actuarial ConsultingLearn more at www.nyhart.com
  4. Areas of Expertise Include: Cash Balance Plan Defined Benefit & Pension Defined Contribution & 401(k) Employee Stock Ownership Plan (ESOP) Flexible Spending, HRA & HSA Healthcare Actuarial ConsultingLearn more at www.nyhart.com