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5500 psig Operating Systems
Q&A
 Recently, an SCBA manufacturer introduced a 5500 psig operating system that reportedly would become available for purchase
 in 2012. The introduction of this system has created questions in the market. The purpose of this document is to address these
 frequently asked questions:
 Are there benefits to the 5500 psig systems?                               Are 5500 psig operating systems lower in profile than
 The benefits are minimal with a 5500 psig operating                        the FireHawk M7 Air Mask?
 system. 5500 psig cylinders are slightly lighter and smaller               Not even close! The FireHawk M7 Air Mask still provides
 than their equivalent duration 4500 psig counterparts.                     firefighters with the lowest profile SCBA on the market, at
                                                                            only 7 inches. The SCBA with a 5500 psig has a profile of 8.5
 Are there disadvantages to a 5500 psig operating system?                   inches, a 17% larger profile than the Firehawk M7.
 There are a number of areas where this operating system                    The table below shows a comparison of the profile heights
 could become a disadvantage for firefighters. Areas like                   between the Firehawk M7 and a competitor with a 30
 upgradeability, interoperability with existing operating                   minute 4500 psig and 5500 psig cylinder.
 pressures, filling capabilities, inefficiencies with in-service
 air compressors, and the cost of the system.                                                                                Profile
                                                                                      Product              Total Profile
                                                                                                                           Difference
 Is there patentable technology behind the 5500 psig systems?
 No. Any cylinder manufacturer can make cylinders rated to                  FireHawk M7 Air Mask*          7.00 inches         —
 5500 psig, if they so choose. Currently, only one cylinder                 Competitor with 4500 psig      8.75 inches       + 1.75
 manufacturer is producing 5500 psig cylinders for SCBA
 applications.                                                              Competitor with 5500 psig      8.50 inches       + 1.50

 Are SCBA equipped with 5500 psig operating systems                         What is required to have a 4500 psig upgraded to 5500 psig?
 lighter weight than the FireHawk® M7 Air Mask with an
                                                                            As stated by the manufacturer introducing the 5500 psig
 equivalent 4500 psig duration cylinder?
                                                                            system, the upgrade requires a pressure reducer, pressure
 No! The Firehawk M7 Air Mask remains one of the lightest                   relief valve and pressure gauge console be replaced. In
 SCBA on the market and has been since it's introduction in                 addition, new programming is required for their electronics.
 2007. The competitor's 5500 psig operating system only
 matches the weight of our Firehawk M7 Air Mask. Their                      When responding to a mutual aid call, can I share 5500
 overall weight savings with a 30-minute 5500 psig cylinder                 psig cylinders with a neighboring department that uses
 is less than 5%.                                                           4500 psig cylinders?
 The table below shows a comparison of the FireHawk M7 Air                  Absolutely not! A department that has a 5500 psig
 Mask to the competitor, with an equivalent duration 4500 psig              operating system cannot provide cylinders to a neighboring
 and 5500 psig system, and without a 5500 psig system.                      department utilizing 4500 psig systems. The relief valve
                                                                            venting pressure in the 4500 psig system is well below the
                                                           Weight           5500 psig operating pressure. Connecting a 5500 psig
             Product                  Total Weight
                                                          Difference         cylinder to a 4500 psig operating system will automatically
 FireHawk M7 Air Mask*                   21.75 lbs             —            open the relief valve, venting breathing air to atmosphere.
                                                                            A department that has a 5500 psig system could utilize a
 Competitor with 4500 psig               22.88 lbs           + 1.13         4500 psig cylinder, but will not provide the same service
 Competitor with 5500 psig               21.75 lbs             —            durations when the SCBA goes into low pressure alarm,
                                                                            creating a very dangerous condition for the firefighter.
 * Complete SCBA includes 4500 psig empty 30-minute cylinder, PASS device
 with batteries, lumbar pad, buddy breather, facepiece, and pneumatics.
5500 PSIG OPERATING SYSTEMS Q & A



                   Can any compressor fill 5500 psig cylinders?                                                     Will my fill time increase using a 5500 psig cylinder?
                   No. Not all air compressors are the same. Compressor fill                                        Yes. Every time a cylinder is filled, the compression of air
                   ratings vary from 5000 psig to 6000 psig. As a compressor                                        generates heat that results in a thermal expansion of the air
                   system approaches it’s maximum filling pressure, the filling                                     in the cylinder. After the air in a cylinder has cooled down,
                   efficiency diminishes. The majority of high pressure                                             the pressure in that cylinder will no longer read full,
                   breathing air compressors incorporate air storage systems                                        requiring the user to top off the cylinder. The higher filling
                   that allow users to cascade fill SCBA cylinders. Cascade                                         pressure will generate more heat, resulting in a greater loss
                   filling maximizes the number of cylinders that can be filled                                     in pressure. This will require more filling time a 5500 psig
                   by the system while minimizing the compressors run time.                                         cylinder than a 4500 psig cylinder of equal volume.
                   Cylinders with a 5500 psig operating pressure reduces
                   these efficiences.                                                                               Does 5500 psig cylinder follow the same inspection and
                                                                                                                    testing criteria as 4500 psig cylinders?
                   The table below shows the filling capacity of a 6000 psig,
                   four cylinder ASME cascade system:                                                               Yes. All inspections and hydrostatic testing protocols
                                                                                                                    remain unchanged from a 4500 psig cylinder.
                                                          Number of                   Number of                     Is the CGA coupling different for 5500 psig cylinder
                               Type                       4500 psig                   5500 psig                     than it is for 4500 psig cylinder?
                                                         Cylinder Fills              Cylinder Fills
                                                                                                                    No. CGA 347 coupler allows for cylinder pressures up to 5500
                    30-Minute Cylinder                           29                          16                     psig. The same CGA 347 coupler can be used with a 4500
                    45-Minute Cylinder                           20                          11                     psig or 5500 psig operating system and may result in an
                                                                                                                    unsafe condition for the firefighter. The two unsafe
                                                                                                                    conditions are 1) over pressurization of a 4500 psig SCBA
                                                                                                                    when a 5500 psig cylinder is connected and 2) inaccurate
                                                                                                                    function of the 5500 psig system's low pressure warning
                                                                                                                    devices and service time remaining features.




Note: This bulletin contains only a general description of the products   MSA Corporate Center                    MSA Mexico
shown. While uses and performance capabilities are described, under no    1000 Cranberry Woods Drive              Phone   01 800 672 7222
circumstances shall the products be used by untrained or unqualified      Cranberry Township, PA 16066            Fax     52-44 2227 3943
individuals and not until the product instructions including any          Phone     724-776-8600                  MSA International
warnings or cautions provided have been thoroughly read and               www.msafire.com                         Phone     724-776-8626
understood. Only they contain the complete and detailed information       Fire Service Customer Service Center    Toll-Free 1-800-672-7777
concerning proper use and care of these products.                         Phone     1-877-MSA-FIRE                Fax       724-741-1559
                                                                          Fax       1-800-967-0398
ID 0107-30-MC / Feb 2012                                                  MSA Canada
© MSA 2012 Printed in U.S.A.                                              Phone   1-800-672-2222
                                                                          Fax     1-800-967-0398

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5500psig Qa

  • 1. 5500 psig Operating Systems Q&A Recently, an SCBA manufacturer introduced a 5500 psig operating system that reportedly would become available for purchase in 2012. The introduction of this system has created questions in the market. The purpose of this document is to address these frequently asked questions: Are there benefits to the 5500 psig systems? Are 5500 psig operating systems lower in profile than The benefits are minimal with a 5500 psig operating the FireHawk M7 Air Mask? system. 5500 psig cylinders are slightly lighter and smaller Not even close! The FireHawk M7 Air Mask still provides than their equivalent duration 4500 psig counterparts. firefighters with the lowest profile SCBA on the market, at only 7 inches. The SCBA with a 5500 psig has a profile of 8.5 Are there disadvantages to a 5500 psig operating system? inches, a 17% larger profile than the Firehawk M7. There are a number of areas where this operating system The table below shows a comparison of the profile heights could become a disadvantage for firefighters. Areas like between the Firehawk M7 and a competitor with a 30 upgradeability, interoperability with existing operating minute 4500 psig and 5500 psig cylinder. pressures, filling capabilities, inefficiencies with in-service air compressors, and the cost of the system. Profile Product Total Profile Difference Is there patentable technology behind the 5500 psig systems? No. Any cylinder manufacturer can make cylinders rated to FireHawk M7 Air Mask* 7.00 inches — 5500 psig, if they so choose. Currently, only one cylinder Competitor with 4500 psig 8.75 inches + 1.75 manufacturer is producing 5500 psig cylinders for SCBA applications. Competitor with 5500 psig 8.50 inches + 1.50 Are SCBA equipped with 5500 psig operating systems What is required to have a 4500 psig upgraded to 5500 psig? lighter weight than the FireHawk® M7 Air Mask with an As stated by the manufacturer introducing the 5500 psig equivalent 4500 psig duration cylinder? system, the upgrade requires a pressure reducer, pressure No! The Firehawk M7 Air Mask remains one of the lightest relief valve and pressure gauge console be replaced. In SCBA on the market and has been since it's introduction in addition, new programming is required for their electronics. 2007. The competitor's 5500 psig operating system only matches the weight of our Firehawk M7 Air Mask. Their When responding to a mutual aid call, can I share 5500 overall weight savings with a 30-minute 5500 psig cylinder psig cylinders with a neighboring department that uses is less than 5%. 4500 psig cylinders? The table below shows a comparison of the FireHawk M7 Air Absolutely not! A department that has a 5500 psig Mask to the competitor, with an equivalent duration 4500 psig operating system cannot provide cylinders to a neighboring and 5500 psig system, and without a 5500 psig system. department utilizing 4500 psig systems. The relief valve venting pressure in the 4500 psig system is well below the Weight 5500 psig operating pressure. Connecting a 5500 psig Product Total Weight Difference cylinder to a 4500 psig operating system will automatically FireHawk M7 Air Mask* 21.75 lbs — open the relief valve, venting breathing air to atmosphere. A department that has a 5500 psig system could utilize a Competitor with 4500 psig 22.88 lbs + 1.13 4500 psig cylinder, but will not provide the same service Competitor with 5500 psig 21.75 lbs — durations when the SCBA goes into low pressure alarm, creating a very dangerous condition for the firefighter. * Complete SCBA includes 4500 psig empty 30-minute cylinder, PASS device with batteries, lumbar pad, buddy breather, facepiece, and pneumatics.
  • 2. 5500 PSIG OPERATING SYSTEMS Q & A Can any compressor fill 5500 psig cylinders? Will my fill time increase using a 5500 psig cylinder? No. Not all air compressors are the same. Compressor fill Yes. Every time a cylinder is filled, the compression of air ratings vary from 5000 psig to 6000 psig. As a compressor generates heat that results in a thermal expansion of the air system approaches it’s maximum filling pressure, the filling in the cylinder. After the air in a cylinder has cooled down, efficiency diminishes. The majority of high pressure the pressure in that cylinder will no longer read full, breathing air compressors incorporate air storage systems requiring the user to top off the cylinder. The higher filling that allow users to cascade fill SCBA cylinders. Cascade pressure will generate more heat, resulting in a greater loss filling maximizes the number of cylinders that can be filled in pressure. This will require more filling time a 5500 psig by the system while minimizing the compressors run time. cylinder than a 4500 psig cylinder of equal volume. Cylinders with a 5500 psig operating pressure reduces these efficiences. Does 5500 psig cylinder follow the same inspection and testing criteria as 4500 psig cylinders? The table below shows the filling capacity of a 6000 psig, four cylinder ASME cascade system: Yes. All inspections and hydrostatic testing protocols remain unchanged from a 4500 psig cylinder. Number of Number of Is the CGA coupling different for 5500 psig cylinder Type 4500 psig 5500 psig than it is for 4500 psig cylinder? Cylinder Fills Cylinder Fills No. CGA 347 coupler allows for cylinder pressures up to 5500 30-Minute Cylinder 29 16 psig. The same CGA 347 coupler can be used with a 4500 45-Minute Cylinder 20 11 psig or 5500 psig operating system and may result in an unsafe condition for the firefighter. The two unsafe conditions are 1) over pressurization of a 4500 psig SCBA when a 5500 psig cylinder is connected and 2) inaccurate function of the 5500 psig system's low pressure warning devices and service time remaining features. Note: This bulletin contains only a general description of the products MSA Corporate Center MSA Mexico shown. While uses and performance capabilities are described, under no 1000 Cranberry Woods Drive Phone 01 800 672 7222 circumstances shall the products be used by untrained or unqualified Cranberry Township, PA 16066 Fax 52-44 2227 3943 individuals and not until the product instructions including any Phone 724-776-8600 MSA International warnings or cautions provided have been thoroughly read and www.msafire.com Phone 724-776-8626 understood. Only they contain the complete and detailed information Fire Service Customer Service Center Toll-Free 1-800-672-7777 concerning proper use and care of these products. Phone 1-877-MSA-FIRE Fax 724-741-1559 Fax 1-800-967-0398 ID 0107-30-MC / Feb 2012 MSA Canada © MSA 2012 Printed in U.S.A. Phone 1-800-672-2222 Fax 1-800-967-0398