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LISTENING	
  
COUNTRIES,	
  NATIONALITIES	
  AND	
  LANGUAGES/MOCK	
  EXAM	
  

TONY	
  GATLIF	
  
CHAIN	
  REACTION	
  FEAR	
  OVER	
  ROMA	
  EXPULSIONS	
  
	
  

FROM	
  :	
  EURONEWS,	
  14.10.2010	
  
	
  

Tony	
   Gatlif	
   (real	
   name	
   Michel	
   Dahmani	
   born	
   September	
   10,	
   1948,	
  
Algiers,	
   Algeria)	
   is	
   a	
   French	
   film	
   director	
   who	
   also	
   works	
   as	
   a	
  
scriptwriter,	
  actor,	
  and	
  producer.	
  
After	
   a	
   childhood	
   in	
   Algiers,	
   Gatlif	
   arrived	
   in	
   France	
   in	
   1960	
  
following	
   the	
   Algerian	
   War	
   of	
   Independence.	
   Gatlif	
   struggled	
   for	
  
years	
   to	
   break	
   into	
   the	
   film	
   industry,	
   playing	
   in	
   several	
   theatrical	
  
productions	
   until	
   directing	
   his	
   first	
   film,	
   La	
   Tête	
   en	
   ruine,	
   in	
  
1975.	
  He	
  followed	
  it	
  with	
  the	
  1979	
  La	
  Terre	
  au	
  ventre,	
  a	
  story	
  of	
  the	
  
Algerian	
  War	
  of	
  Independence.	
  
	
  

	
  
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Tony	
   Gatlif	
   is	
   a	
   man	
   with	
   a	
   mission.	
   For	
   35	
   years,	
   Gatlif	
   who (1)	
   is	
   half	
   Kabil	
   (Algerian),	
   half	
   Gypsy,	
   has	
  
produced	
  (2	
  produce)	
   and	
   directed	
  (3	
  direct)	
   films	
   about	
   the	
   Roma	
   people	
   in	
   Europe	
  (4),	
   a	
   people	
  
who(5)	
   he	
   says	
   are	
   often	
   misunderstood	
   (6	
   often	
   misunderstand)	
   and	
   discriminated	
   (7	
  
discriminate)	
  against.	
  
His	
   latest	
   film,	
   “Liberté”,	
   released	
   (8	
   release)	
   	
   this	
   year,	
   is	
   about	
   the	
   estimated	
   30,000	
   French	
   Roma	
   or	
  
Gypsies	
  who	
  (9)	
  were	
  detained	
  (10	
  detain)	
  	
  and	
  deported	
  (11	
  deport)	
  during	
  (12)	
  World	
  War	
  II.	
  
Although	
   Gatlif	
   is	
   angry	
   about	
   President	
   Sarkozy’s	
   expulsions	
   and	
   the	
   dismantling	
   of	
   illegal	
   Roma	
   camps,	
   he	
  
insists	
  that	
  what	
   is	
  happening	
  (13	
  happen)	
  today	
  can	
  in	
  no	
  way	
  be	
  compared	
  to	
  the	
  deportations	
  of	
  the	
  
Second	
  World	
  War.	
  
But	
   he	
   warns	
   (14	
   warn)	
   it	
   is	
   an	
   uncomfortable	
   reminder	
   of	
   what	
   happens	
   when	
   a	
   whole	
   race	
   of	
   people	
   are	
  
targeted	
  (15	
  target).	
  
Valerie	
  Zabriskie	
  of	
  euronews	
  caught	
  up	
  with	
  the	
  film	
  director	
  in	
  Lyon.	
  
“Tony	
  Gatlif,	
  you	
  are	
  firmly	
  against	
  the	
  dismantling	
  of	
  Roma	
  camps,	
   although	
  (16)	
  opinion	
  polls	
  suggest	
  60	
  
percent	
   of	
   French	
   people	
   support	
  (17	
  support)	
   this	
   ‘dismantling’	
   policy.	
   Does	
  that	
  surprise	
  you	
  (18	
  
that/surprise/you)?”	
  
Tony	
  Gatlif:	
  	
  
“There’s	
   nothing	
   I	
   can	
   do	
   about	
   that.	
   The	
   only	
   thing	
   I	
   can	
   do,	
   is	
   to	
   explain	
   to	
   all	
   those	
   who	
   (19)	
   don’t	
  
understand	
   (20	
   not	
   understand)	
   this	
   problem	
   about	
   the	
   travelling	
   people	
   –	
   that’s	
   the	
   administrative	
  
term.	
  They	
  are	
  the	
  Roma	
  people,	
  Gypsies	
  who	
   have	
  been	
  (21	
  be)	
  in	
  France	
  for	
  (22)	
  	
  a	
  very,	
  very	
  long	
  time,	
  
since	
  (23)	
  King	
  Francois	
  the	
  first,	
  these	
  Gypsies,	
  who	
  are	
  in	
  the	
  South	
  of	
  France	
  (24)	
  and	
  Spain	
  (25).	
  That’s	
  
it.	
  And	
  these	
  people	
  who	
  (26)	
  have	
  been	
  (27	
  be)	
  here	
  in	
  Europe	
  (28)	
  since	
  (29)	
  the	
  Middle	
  Ages,	
  they	
  
have	
  contributed	
  to	
  Europe,	
  to	
   its	
  (30	
  don’t	
  use	
  ‘the’)	
   culture,	
  to	
  all	
   that	
  (31)	
  is	
   European(32).	
   	
  And	
  
now	
  today,	
  we	
   want	
  them	
  to	
  become	
  (33	
  want/they/become)	
  invisible.	
  We	
   don’t	
  want	
  them	
  to	
  
exist	
   (34	
   want	
   not/they	
   exist).	
   But	
   how	
   can	
   a	
   people	
   of	
   10	
   million	
   just	
   stop	
   existing	
   all	
   of	
   a	
   sudden?	
  
Because	
  European(35)	
  heads	
  of	
  state	
  decided	
  to	
  pass	
  laws	
  against	
  them	
  so	
  they	
  can’t	
  move	
  (travel)	
  anymore.	
  
This	
   means	
   (36	
   mean).that	
   when	
   you	
   don’t	
   want	
   a	
   people	
   to	
   move(37	
   want	
   not/a	
  
people/move),	
  you	
  confine	
  them.	
  This	
  is	
  what	
  they	
  did	
  (38	
  do)	
  during	
  (39)	
  the	
  war.”	
  	
  
euronews:	
  
“But	
   now	
   that	
   Romania	
   and	
   Bulgaria	
   are	
   part	
   of	
   the	
   European	
   Union,	
   you	
   can’t	
   do	
   this	
   anymore.	
   They	
   have	
   the	
  
right	
  to	
  travel	
  to	
  other	
  European	
  countries	
  but	
  if	
  after	
  three	
  months,	
  they	
  don’t	
  have	
  work	
  or	
  are	
  said	
  to	
  be	
  a	
  
social	
  burden,	
  they	
  can	
  be	
  expelled.”	
  
Tony	
  Gatlif:	
  	
  
“This	
   law	
   was	
   created	
   for	
   them	
   but	
   it’s	
   not	
   for	
   everyone.	
   Next	
   to	
   where	
   I	
   live	
   in	
   Paris,	
   there’s	
   a	
   German	
  
homeless	
   person.	
   He’s	
   been	
   there	
   for	
   three	
   years.	
   Has	
   anyone	
   told	
   him	
   he	
   has	
   to	
   return	
   to	
   Germany?	
   He’s	
  
homeless,	
  he’s	
  German,	
  he	
  told	
  me.	
  So	
  these	
  laws	
  are	
  designed	
  for	
  certain	
  people,	
  for	
  the	
  ‘second	
  class’	
  citizens	
  
and	
  then	
  there	
  are	
  laws	
  for	
  the	
  ‘real’	
  citizens.	
  That’s	
  it.	
  And	
  so	
  I	
  believe	
  these	
  laws	
  were	
  created	
  solely	
  for	
  the	
  
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Gypsies	
  to	
  say,	
  “look	
  out,	
  if	
  we	
  open	
  Europe’s	
  borders	
  we’ll	
  have	
  all	
  the	
  Gypsies	
  who	
  will	
  want	
  to	
  leave.”	
  They	
  
know	
   that’s	
   what	
   the	
   Gypsies	
   always	
   do.	
   So	
   they	
   say	
   we’ll	
   make	
   these	
   laws	
   to	
   block	
   them	
   and	
   send	
   them	
   home	
  
after	
  three	
  months.”	
  
euronews:	
  
“But	
   don’t	
   you	
   think	
   with	
   what	
   happened	
   last	
   month	
   at	
   the	
   EU	
   summit,	
   with	
   President	
   Sarkozy	
   and	
   the	
  
European	
  Commissioner,	
  shows	
  the	
  European	
  Commission	
  is	
  starting	
  to	
  pay	
  attention	
  to	
  what	
  we	
  call	
  the	
  Roma	
  
problem	
  in	
  Europe?”	
  
Tony	
  Gatlif:	
  	
  
“They	
  are	
  shocked,	
  I	
  think,	
  these	
  countries	
  are	
  shocked	
  because	
  Spain	
  doesn’t	
  do	
  this,	
  there	
  are	
  EU	
  countries	
  
which	
  don’t	
  do	
  this.	
  Greece	
  doesn’t	
  either.	
  Greece	
  likes	
  its	
  Gypsies.	
  So	
  France,	
  all	
  of	
  a	
  sudden,	
  with	
  these	
  laws	
  
they	
   introduced,	
   wants	
   to	
   uproot	
   these	
   people,	
   these	
   Roma	
   who	
   have	
   been	
   here	
   for	
   I	
   don’t	
   know	
   how	
   long,	
  
maybe	
   three	
   or	
   four	
   years.	
   And	
   they	
   round	
   them	
   up	
   and	
   expel	
   them	
   from	
   their	
   shacks,	
   from	
   their	
   cardboard	
  
houses,	
  in	
  the	
  woods,	
  under	
  the	
  bridges,	
  by	
  the	
  motorways.	
  And	
  they	
  move	
  them	
  out	
  in	
  numbers,	
  en	
  masse.	
  
And	
  this	
  reminds	
  us	
  of	
  a	
  trauma.	
  There	
  are	
  children	
  who	
  are	
  half-­‐naked,	
  in	
  their	
  mothers’	
  arms.	
  There	
  is	
  panic	
  
everywhere.	
  They	
  don’t	
  have	
  time	
  to	
  take	
  their	
  belongings.	
  It’s	
  panic.	
  Of	
  course	
  it	
  isn’t	
  as	
  bad	
  as	
  the	
  round-­‐ups,	
  
the	
  (World	
  War	
  II	
  deportations	
  of	
  1940	
  but	
  it’s	
  still,	
  let’s	
  say,	
  the	
  thin	
  end	
  of	
  the	
  wedge.”	
  	
  
euronews:	
  
“People	
   complain	
   about	
   seeing	
   the	
   Roma,	
   the	
   Gypsies	
   with	
   their	
   big	
   caravans,	
   their	
   beautiful	
   cars	
   and	
   at	
   the	
  
same	
  time	
  they	
  portray	
  themselves	
  as	
  victims,	
  the	
  women	
  begging	
  on	
  the	
  streets	
  with	
  their	
  babies…”	
  
Tony	
  Gatlif:	
  	
  
“Here	
  at	
  the	
  train	
  station	
  in	
  Lyon	
  when	
  I	
  arrived,	
  there	
  was	
  a	
  woman	
  who	
  stopped	
  me	
  at	
  the	
  station.	
  She	
  had	
  
blue	
  eyes,	
  didn’t	
  look	
  at	
  all	
  like	
  a	
  foreigner.	
  She	
  was	
  French	
  and	
  she	
  asked	
  me	
  for	
  money	
  for	
  her	
  children.	
  She	
  
put	
  her	
  misery	
  right	
  in	
  front	
  of	
  me	
  because	
  she	
  was	
  poor	
  and	
  miserable	
  and	
  I	
  didn’t	
  cover	
  my	
  eyes.	
  But	
  that	
  the	
  
Gypsies	
   beg,	
   that	
   bothers	
   everyone.	
   Why	
   does	
   that	
   bother	
   everyone?	
   Because	
   it	
   reminds	
   them	
   of	
   their	
   own	
  
insecurity?	
   Maybe	
   they	
   feel	
   they’re	
   being	
   harassed?	
   But	
   I	
   feel	
   harassed	
   as	
   well	
   by	
   the	
   homeless.	
   But	
   it’s	
   normal	
  
that	
  I’m	
  harassed.	
  That	
  would	
  be	
  the	
  last	
  straw,	
  that	
  they	
  just	
  die	
  in	
  front	
  of	
  us	
  without	
  asking	
  for	
  anything.	
  But	
  
this	
  is	
  what	
  the	
  new	
  world	
  is	
  like	
  today.	
  The	
  modern	
  world.”	
  	
  
euronews:	
  
“But	
   with	
   all	
   the	
   media	
   coverage	
   of	
   the	
   expulsions	
   this	
   summer,	
   maybe	
   you	
   are,	
   perhaps	
   not	
   optimistic,	
   but	
  
don’t	
   you	
   hope	
   there	
   is	
   now	
   more	
   pressure	
   on	
   Europe’s	
   heads	
   of	
   state	
   to	
   address	
   this	
   problem	
   which	
   is	
  
European?”	
  
Tony	
  Gatlif:	
  	
  
“I’m	
  not	
  scared	
  of	
  the	
  European	
  heads	
  of	
  state.	
  I’m	
  not	
  scared	
  of	
  those	
  who	
  govern	
  Europe.	
  I	
  am	
  scared	
  of	
  the	
  
European	
   people.	
   Once	
   a	
   government	
   like	
   France	
   –	
   which	
   is	
   a	
   country	
   all	
   of	
   Europe	
   looked	
   up	
   to	
   during	
   the	
  
communist	
  era	
  because	
  it	
  was	
  the	
  country	
  of	
  human	
  rights	
  –	
  once	
  France,	
  the	
  country	
  of	
  human	
  rights,	
  starts	
  
pointing	
   its	
   finger	
   at	
   a	
   people	
   who	
   are	
   fragile,	
   I’m	
   worried	
   this	
   will	
   trigger	
   a	
   chain	
   reaction.	
   I’m	
   worried	
   that	
  
people	
  in	
  other	
  countries	
  will	
  say	
  we	
  can	
  do	
  the	
  same	
  thing	
  because	
  these	
  Roma	
  aren’t	
  good.	
  That’s	
  what	
  the	
  
French	
  government	
  said,	
  the	
  French	
  president	
  said,	
  well,	
  he	
  didn’t	
  say	
  they	
  weren’t	
  good,	
  but	
  he	
  said	
  they	
  were	
  
problematic.	
  So	
  from	
  that	
  point	
  of	
  view,	
  in	
  countries	
  such	
  as	
  Romania,	
  or	
  Bulgaria	
  or	
  Hungary	
  and	
  elsewhere,	
  
they	
  can	
  also	
  say,	
  ‘Yes	
  we	
  have	
  a	
  problem	
  with	
  these	
  people	
  (the	
  Roma).’”	
  	
  
euronews:	
  
“There	
   is	
   a	
   summit	
   this	
   month	
   in	
   Bucharest	
   on	
   the	
   integration	
   of	
   the	
   Roma	
   people	
   in	
   Europe.	
   What	
   are	
   you	
  
expecting	
  will	
  come	
  out	
  of	
  this	
  type	
  of	
  summit?	
  What	
  are	
  you	
  hoping	
  for?”	
  
Tony	
  Gatlif:	
  	
  
“That	
  they	
  just	
  leave	
  these	
  people	
  alone.	
  These	
  Roma	
  didn’t	
  ask	
  for	
  anything.	
  They’ve	
  never	
  made	
  wars,	
  never	
  
armed	
   themselves,	
   never	
   used	
   bombs.	
   These	
   people	
   just	
   want	
   to	
   live.	
   So	
   let’s	
   just	
   let	
   them	
   live	
   and	
   find	
   the	
  
means	
  to	
  help	
  them	
  do	
  that,	
  like	
  everyone	
  else	
  in	
  Europe.	
  And	
  that	
  we	
  stop	
  sticking	
  labels	
  on	
  their	
  backs,	
  or	
  
creating	
  laws	
  that	
  go	
  against	
  the	
  way	
  they	
  live.”

	
  
SCRIPT	
  :	
  http://www.euronews.net/2010/10/14/tony-­‐gatlif-­‐chain-­‐reaction-­‐fear-­‐over-­‐roma-­‐expulsions	
  
PHOTO	
  AND	
  TEXT	
  IN	
  BOX	
  :	
  http://www.last.fm/music/Tony+Gatlif	
  
	
  
	
  

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Tony Gatlif Speaks Out Against Roma Expulsions

  • 1. ENGLISH  4   LISTENING   COUNTRIES,  NATIONALITIES  AND  LANGUAGES/MOCK  EXAM   TONY  GATLIF   CHAIN  REACTION  FEAR  OVER  ROMA  EXPULSIONS     FROM  :  EURONEWS,  14.10.2010     Tony   Gatlif   (real   name   Michel   Dahmani   born   September   10,   1948,   Algiers,   Algeria)   is   a   French   film   director   who   also   works   as   a   scriptwriter,  actor,  and  producer.   After   a   childhood   in   Algiers,   Gatlif   arrived   in   France   in   1960   following   the   Algerian   War   of   Independence.   Gatlif   struggled   for   years   to   break   into   the   film   industry,   playing   in   several   theatrical   productions   until   directing   his   first   film,   La   Tête   en   ruine,   in   1975.  He  followed  it  with  the  1979  La  Terre  au  ventre,  a  story  of  the   Algerian  War  of  Independence.       1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9   10   11   12   13   14   15   16   17   18   19   20   21   22   23   24   25   26   27   28   29   30   31   32   33   34   35   36   37   38   39   40       Tony   Gatlif   is   a   man   with   a   mission.   For   35   years,   Gatlif   who (1)   is   half   Kabil   (Algerian),   half   Gypsy,   has   produced  (2  produce)   and   directed  (3  direct)   films   about   the   Roma   people   in   Europe  (4),   a   people   who(5)   he   says   are   often   misunderstood   (6   often   misunderstand)   and   discriminated   (7   discriminate)  against.   His   latest   film,   “Liberté”,   released   (8   release)     this   year,   is   about   the   estimated   30,000   French   Roma   or   Gypsies  who  (9)  were  detained  (10  detain)    and  deported  (11  deport)  during  (12)  World  War  II.   Although   Gatlif   is   angry   about   President   Sarkozy’s   expulsions   and   the   dismantling   of   illegal   Roma   camps,   he   insists  that  what   is  happening  (13  happen)  today  can  in  no  way  be  compared  to  the  deportations  of  the   Second  World  War.   But   he   warns   (14   warn)   it   is   an   uncomfortable   reminder   of   what   happens   when   a   whole   race   of   people   are   targeted  (15  target).   Valerie  Zabriskie  of  euronews  caught  up  with  the  film  director  in  Lyon.   “Tony  Gatlif,  you  are  firmly  against  the  dismantling  of  Roma  camps,   although  (16)  opinion  polls  suggest  60   percent   of   French   people   support  (17  support)   this   ‘dismantling’   policy.   Does  that  surprise  you  (18   that/surprise/you)?”   Tony  Gatlif:     “There’s   nothing   I   can   do   about   that.   The   only   thing   I   can   do,   is   to   explain   to   all   those   who   (19)   don’t   understand   (20   not   understand)   this   problem   about   the   travelling   people   –   that’s   the   administrative   term.  They  are  the  Roma  people,  Gypsies  who   have  been  (21  be)  in  France  for  (22)    a  very,  very  long  time,   since  (23)  King  Francois  the  first,  these  Gypsies,  who  are  in  the  South  of  France  (24)  and  Spain  (25).  That’s   it.  And  these  people  who  (26)  have  been  (27  be)  here  in  Europe  (28)  since  (29)  the  Middle  Ages,  they   have  contributed  to  Europe,  to   its  (30  don’t  use  ‘the’)   culture,  to  all   that  (31)  is   European(32).    And   now  today,  we   want  them  to  become  (33  want/they/become)  invisible.  We   don’t  want  them  to   exist   (34   want   not/they   exist).   But   how   can   a   people   of   10   million   just   stop   existing   all   of   a   sudden?   Because  European(35)  heads  of  state  decided  to  pass  laws  against  them  so  they  can’t  move  (travel)  anymore.   This   means   (36   mean).that   when   you   don’t   want   a   people   to   move(37   want   not/a   people/move),  you  confine  them.  This  is  what  they  did  (38  do)  during  (39)  the  war.”     euronews:   “But   now   that   Romania   and   Bulgaria   are   part   of   the   European   Union,   you   can’t   do   this   anymore.   They   have   the   right  to  travel  to  other  European  countries  but  if  after  three  months,  they  don’t  have  work  or  are  said  to  be  a   social  burden,  they  can  be  expelled.”   Tony  Gatlif:     “This   law   was   created   for   them   but   it’s   not   for   everyone.   Next   to   where   I   live   in   Paris,   there’s   a   German   homeless   person.   He’s   been   there   for   three   years.   Has   anyone   told   him   he   has   to   return   to   Germany?   He’s   homeless,  he’s  German,  he  told  me.  So  these  laws  are  designed  for  certain  people,  for  the  ‘second  class’  citizens   and  then  there  are  laws  for  the  ‘real’  citizens.  That’s  it.  And  so  I  believe  these  laws  were  created  solely  for  the   1  
  • 2. ENGLISH  4   41   42   43   44   45   46   47   48   49   50   51   52   53   54   55   56   57   58   59   60   61   62   63   64   65   66   67   68   69   70   71   72   73   74   75   76   77   78   79   80   81   82   83   84   85   86   87   88   89     LISTENING   COUNTRIES,  NATIONALITIES  AND  LANGUAGES/MOCK  EXAM   Gypsies  to  say,  “look  out,  if  we  open  Europe’s  borders  we’ll  have  all  the  Gypsies  who  will  want  to  leave.”  They   know   that’s   what   the   Gypsies   always   do.   So   they   say   we’ll   make   these   laws   to   block   them   and   send   them   home   after  three  months.”   euronews:   “But   don’t   you   think   with   what   happened   last   month   at   the   EU   summit,   with   President   Sarkozy   and   the   European  Commissioner,  shows  the  European  Commission  is  starting  to  pay  attention  to  what  we  call  the  Roma   problem  in  Europe?”   Tony  Gatlif:     “They  are  shocked,  I  think,  these  countries  are  shocked  because  Spain  doesn’t  do  this,  there  are  EU  countries   which  don’t  do  this.  Greece  doesn’t  either.  Greece  likes  its  Gypsies.  So  France,  all  of  a  sudden,  with  these  laws   they   introduced,   wants   to   uproot   these   people,   these   Roma   who   have   been   here   for   I   don’t   know   how   long,   maybe   three   or   four   years.   And   they   round   them   up   and   expel   them   from   their   shacks,   from   their   cardboard   houses,  in  the  woods,  under  the  bridges,  by  the  motorways.  And  they  move  them  out  in  numbers,  en  masse.   And  this  reminds  us  of  a  trauma.  There  are  children  who  are  half-­‐naked,  in  their  mothers’  arms.  There  is  panic   everywhere.  They  don’t  have  time  to  take  their  belongings.  It’s  panic.  Of  course  it  isn’t  as  bad  as  the  round-­‐ups,   the  (World  War  II  deportations  of  1940  but  it’s  still,  let’s  say,  the  thin  end  of  the  wedge.”     euronews:   “People   complain   about   seeing   the   Roma,   the   Gypsies   with   their   big   caravans,   their   beautiful   cars   and   at   the   same  time  they  portray  themselves  as  victims,  the  women  begging  on  the  streets  with  their  babies…”   Tony  Gatlif:     “Here  at  the  train  station  in  Lyon  when  I  arrived,  there  was  a  woman  who  stopped  me  at  the  station.  She  had   blue  eyes,  didn’t  look  at  all  like  a  foreigner.  She  was  French  and  she  asked  me  for  money  for  her  children.  She   put  her  misery  right  in  front  of  me  because  she  was  poor  and  miserable  and  I  didn’t  cover  my  eyes.  But  that  the   Gypsies   beg,   that   bothers   everyone.   Why   does   that   bother   everyone?   Because   it   reminds   them   of   their   own   insecurity?   Maybe   they   feel   they’re   being   harassed?   But   I   feel   harassed   as   well   by   the   homeless.   But   it’s   normal   that  I’m  harassed.  That  would  be  the  last  straw,  that  they  just  die  in  front  of  us  without  asking  for  anything.  But   this  is  what  the  new  world  is  like  today.  The  modern  world.”     euronews:   “But   with   all   the   media   coverage   of   the   expulsions   this   summer,   maybe   you   are,   perhaps   not   optimistic,   but   don’t   you   hope   there   is   now   more   pressure   on   Europe’s   heads   of   state   to   address   this   problem   which   is   European?”   Tony  Gatlif:     “I’m  not  scared  of  the  European  heads  of  state.  I’m  not  scared  of  those  who  govern  Europe.  I  am  scared  of  the   European   people.   Once   a   government   like   France   –   which   is   a   country   all   of   Europe   looked   up   to   during   the   communist  era  because  it  was  the  country  of  human  rights  –  once  France,  the  country  of  human  rights,  starts   pointing   its   finger   at   a   people   who   are   fragile,   I’m   worried   this   will   trigger   a   chain   reaction.   I’m   worried   that   people  in  other  countries  will  say  we  can  do  the  same  thing  because  these  Roma  aren’t  good.  That’s  what  the   French  government  said,  the  French  president  said,  well,  he  didn’t  say  they  weren’t  good,  but  he  said  they  were   problematic.  So  from  that  point  of  view,  in  countries  such  as  Romania,  or  Bulgaria  or  Hungary  and  elsewhere,   they  can  also  say,  ‘Yes  we  have  a  problem  with  these  people  (the  Roma).’”     euronews:   “There   is   a   summit   this   month   in   Bucharest   on   the   integration   of   the   Roma   people   in   Europe.   What   are   you   expecting  will  come  out  of  this  type  of  summit?  What  are  you  hoping  for?”   Tony  Gatlif:     “That  they  just  leave  these  people  alone.  These  Roma  didn’t  ask  for  anything.  They’ve  never  made  wars,  never   armed   themselves,   never   used   bombs.   These   people   just   want   to   live.   So   let’s   just   let   them   live   and   find   the   means  to  help  them  do  that,  like  everyone  else  in  Europe.  And  that  we  stop  sticking  labels  on  their  backs,  or   creating  laws  that  go  against  the  way  they  live.”   SCRIPT  :  http://www.euronews.net/2010/10/14/tony-­‐gatlif-­‐chain-­‐reaction-­‐fear-­‐over-­‐roma-­‐expulsions   PHOTO  AND  TEXT  IN  BOX  :  http://www.last.fm/music/Tony+Gatlif       2