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Blueseed: the visa-free startup ship 30 minutes from Silicon Valley

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Blueseed is the live/work/play community for 1000 startup entrepreneurs, on a cruise ship to be stationed 30 minutes by ferry from the coast of Silicon Valley. The location allows entrepreneurs from anywhere in the world to start or scale their companies without needing U.S. work visas. Instead, easier-to-obtain B1/B2 business/travel visas will be used to arrive on Blueseed and to visit the mainland.

For more details, please see www.blueseed.com

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  • Blueseed Blueseed at Blueseed @courtneyBolton Answers, part 4 of 4:

    • How might the business risk of indeterminate location-factors be quantified?

    By not having indeterminate location-factors. We've assessed the ocean conditions, immigration regulations, ship paths, and environmental concerns that pertain to the location.

    • Who are Blueseed's primary partners? insurance agents?

    See the answer above regarding affiliations and partnerships.

    • What happens if goods/services delivery are delayed by external factors?

    We'll have reserves aboard, just like any cruise ship.

    • How might this impact the well-being & competitiveness of my companies? Might they be adversely affected?

    Depends on your business, you’re a better judge of that than we can be. Cloud-based startups may be less impacted by delayed food and supplies delivery than, say, a food discovery startup.

    • How many excellent, world-class engineers really want to live on a ship, anyway?

    We’re betting – a lot

    • Don't they want computers?

    Why wouldn’t they have them?

    • Are entrepreneurs (& their employees, working partners) required to live or work onboard the ship?

    Work onboard - yes, unless they have the legal right to work in the US. Live onboard - for at least 186 days of the year, unless they have the legal right to live in the US.

    • What other key factors might I consider as I begin to highlight blueseed.co & any other properties affiliated with Seasteading Institute?

    As a journalist? The risk of receiving negative comments from factions that are opposed to entrepreneurship and job creation.

    • Does Blueseed cap the productivity, or growth, of research- or product-based ventures using time-limits?

    We don't impose time limits, but we think that after a year or two on successfully scaling the boat, startups will find it in their advantage to move to shore, which they will be able to do given their financial resources at that time.

    • Are entrepreneurs & their employees required to launch as public companies?

    No

    • How does Sea-Steading Institute mission effect, or influence, blueseed.co

    Blueseed is the first commercial seasteading venture.

    • Will blueseed.co use travel agents, or real-estate brokers?

    No

    • What, for example, makes Blueseed identify as part of the 'travel' industry --vs. the real-estate industry?

    We’re neither

    • Will recycling, or wind-power, be offered as a function of the cargo-ship? Cruise ships are notorious polluters.

    We'll encourage recycling. Regarding clean energy, see the question above.

    • Likewise, I'm also curious about Seasteading Institute's ability (as stated) to actually exist independent from the grid, and/or independent from the protection, jurisdiction, &/or sanction of surrounding landmasses, governing bodies, coast guards, manufacturing plants, air-rights units, currencies, etc.

    Seasteads are a bit away in the future. For the moment, Blueseed doesn't intend to isolate itself; that would not make business sense. Likewise, self-sufficiency does not make business sense. Instead, we'll do what we do best (allow startups from around the world to incubate in the most amazing incubator space ever built), and we'll trade with others who are best positioned to offer food, energy, security etc.

    • Where will you store; and how will you dispose of the ship's waste?

    We’re speaking with several companies that treat and handle these issues. Commonly, Platform Supply Vessels transport waste to shore, where it is disposed of similarly to shore-generated waste.
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  • Blueseed Blueseed at Blueseed @courtneyBolton Answers, part 3 of 4:


    • Does Blueseed guarantee investment in any form from its friends the California entrepreneurs?

    No

    • Does it offer translation services?

    There will be translation services aboard.

    • Are pets, plants, biological specimens, yogurt, etc allowed onboard?

    Within reason. Dogs and cats, or “potentially dangerous” chemicals or biologics of any kind will not be allowed.

    • May I grow any plants I like?

    Generally yes, except for those classified by the US as illegal drugs.

    • Does Blueseed offer any security?

    Yes, we will have a private security force aboard, providing internal security and defense against potential external threats.

    • What about scurvy?

    Eat your oranges.

    • Does it provide transportation?

    Yes - daily ferries, emergency and VIP helicopter service, and most likely an ecosystem of speedboats that independent providers will form.

    • Who controls its airspace?

    Ships have an internationally recognized safe-zone around them. So we do, to a point.

    • Are inhabitants understood to be investments? or tenants?

    Tenants.

    • What if a disagreement erupts onboard? How is it resolved?

    We will have security and legal expertise aboard, like any cruise ship.

    • Are firearms permitted?

    Generally, no.

    • What about 'fireworks' ?

    Probably not. We'll run a fireworks show on the Blueseed anniversary, from a barge located at a safe distance from the ship.

    • What internationally-recognized governments support Blueseed?

    We’re not a sovereign nation, nor seeking to be one.

    • Does Blueseed support server-side backup?

    Wile most startups will choose to store data in the cloud, we'll have a small server farm aboard. If not, a startup will most likely appear to offer such a service.

    • Am I able to transact normal business operations, abroad Blueseed?

    That is the whole point?

    • How will energy be supplied to the ship?

    There are various possibilities we're exploring:
    * a fuel cell powered by hydrogen or natural gas. Extremely high reliability (6 nines), very safe, completely clean, and quasi-silent.
    * algal biofuels
    * solar power
    * wind power
    * Wave Energy Conversion
    * Ocean Thermal Energy Conversion
    * clean-burning diesel transported from shore
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  • Blueseed Blueseed at Blueseed @courtneyBolton Answers part 2 of 4: • What happens if a human body w/out a US visa dies while on board the ship? Human bodies won’t be allowed on the ship if they’re not allowed on shore. • What happens if a worker needs immediate medical care on Blueseed? The first line of response is the ship hospital. We’ll have a contract with local onshore hospitals as well, and emergency transportation via helicopter. • Are women able to give birth? They can even give birth in water. To actually answer the question, having children aboard is something we don't recommend at this stage, given the lack of specific child-care facilities and safety measures. • Can you grow your own food? This will be left to each individual, and to startups that focus on food production, such as from aquaculture or algae cultivation. • What about livestock? As much as the paleo crowd onboard would like some grass-fed beef patties, we'd like an atmosphere free of methane and moos. • How many nationalities are represented on board the boat? Right now, startups from 43 countries have expressed interest in locating on the ship. See http://bit.ly/BlueseedStartupSurvey1 for updated survey results. • Will the boat accept Square? If the question is, will vendors aboard use the Square device to take credit card payments, then the answer is that that will be entirely their choice. • What about Paypal? Yes • How about standard-issue bank checks? Sounds great • What makes you emphasize 'cash' on page-30 of the deck? 'Cash' as opposed to equity. • Does Blueseed have anything like a Wal-mart? What about a Best Buy? CostCo? We’re not big enough, but we'll have convenience and electronics store(s). • How is property defined, on-board? Similarly to on-shore in the US • What if all of my computers, servers, electron microscopes, or external hard drives get wet, misplaced, or somehow stolen? That would be a really bad day. We’d suggest going to the on-board authorities. • Is anyone able to come on board the boat, at any time? No, not anyone. The default is yes, but we reserve the right to refuse anyone we deem as being unacceptable for any reason. • What airport would you recommend I fly into? SFO • What forms of payment will Blueseed accept for provisional goods & services? See above. • Is broadband internet guaranteed? To the extent an Internet connection is ever guaranteed by an internet provider. See above for Internet connectivity redundancy. • How might that work? Ship-wide WiFi, ship-to-shore microwave link. • Tell me more about the underwater fiber optic submarine cable. We'll explore this idea based on bandwidth demand, capabilities of alternatives (namely microwave transmission) by the time we launch, and cost and permitting issues for the submarine cable. • Does Blueseed consider itself a container vessel for its properties? It's liable, as such? Not for the startups aboard. Each will have their own brand and domain name. For vendors aboard, probably, as in BlueCafeteria.blueseed.com. • Does it have a fixed location? What if its location moves, disappears, or is otherwise rendered non-functional? We’ll have to adapt if that happens, but the location is fixed - www.blueseed.co/faq.html#location • As a international Korean citizen, how often would my family be able to visit? As often as you can afford, and they can get US tourist visas (the latter is generally not a problem - tourist visas for South Korean citizens are valid for 10 years - http://travel.state.gov/visa/fees/fees_5455.html?cid=9223) • What if I am unable to fly into the United States? May I board the ship from another location? No • As a resident of Blueseed, am I able to accept sleep-over guests & visitors at any point? For short durations, yes. We'll also have hotel rooms available. 1 year ago
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  • Blueseed Blueseed at Blueseed @ courtneyBolton: Answers, part 1 of 4:

    • Does Blueseed consider itself a nation-state?

    No. We will fly an open registry flag, like most cruise ships.


    • Does page 33 imply that (only) American citizens are investors?

    No. Investors worldwide are welcome.


    • Page 33 sounds very over-priced; even from my USA, NYC Manhattan resident. Keep in mind that rent aboard Blueseed includes living and work space. The average rent for a Studio (one room) in San Francisco is $1700/mo. The average price for a desk in a coworking space like is $400/month. Blueseed is actually competitive in terms of real estate prices with San Francisco, London, and other large cities. • Does Blueseed require, or prohibit, investment by any of its holding companies? Am I required to sign a non-compete? We don’t prohibit our startups from doing what they see fit financially. • What type of growth, or deliverables-timeline, might be expected from a company aboard Blueseed? Depends on the startup, case by case. We won’t kick someone off unless they’re not actually pursuing work on their startup. • It has SLAs? SLAs might be outlined for Internet connectivity (we'll have a primary microwave link and a satellite backup at the very least, if not an undersea cable as well), transportation (two separate ferries and an independent ecosystem of speedboat providers will ensure redundancy) and utilities on the ship. • What are its industry affiliations? Ingk Labs, Startup Digest, Startup Weekend, and many others. We'll be revamping our website to showcase our existing partnerships and facilitate new ones. • What parts are most advantageous, for aspiring start-ups? What affiliations would benefit most from the 'visa-free' nature of the boat? Besides the lack of visa requirements, aspiring startups will benefit from a streamlined regulatory environment provided by flying an open registry flag, which means being a floating piece of the territory of the flag country (e.g. Bahamas, Marshall Islands). Other advantages include the ability to hire talent from around the world (again thanks to the lack of visa restrictions), and being in the press and investors' spotlight along with the entire ship. • Are LLCs, bootstraps, or NGOs able to incubate with Blueseed? Yes, if they’re interesting enough and add positively to the culture aboard. • Are start-ups required to disclose their funding, prior to their application? Yes • By what measures does Blueseed consider its business' successful? After the launch, there will several inflection points: * the first rapidly growing startup (think the next Twitter) incubates out of Blueseed and becomes known worldwide * the second ship is launched * Blueseed expands in other location than Silicon Valley's coast • How do you vet prospective entrepreneurs or business partners? Basically getting referred or introduced via a trusted investor. Added a slide specifically about this towards the end of the presentation (slide 45 currently). • Do you have any expertise running hotels, theme-parks, or cruise ships? This is being outsourced to experienced professionals from the cruise and hospitality industry. • Are tenants also considered investments? would a thing like conflict-of-interest exist? Our interest is for them to succeed, which is why we take a portion of equity in each startup. If their interest conflicts with ours in this regard, they aren’t a good fit. • Is the ship governed by a rule of law? Yes, just like any other cruise ship. • To what degree is Blueseed responsible for any business risks posed by its operations or, endeavors? To the same extent as any company / ship operator. • How does Blueseed manage its imports? Logistics & supply chain management, resupply from a ferry via a vendor. • Have delivery schedules, SLAs, & timelines been outlined for necessary goods & services? We'll hammer out these details as we approach the launch date, Q3 2013. • What forms of payment does it prefer? PayPal, wire transfers, and in the near future, major credit cards. • Does Blueseed outline payments-types, or any terms, on the part of its vendors? We'll hammer out these details as we approach the launch date. • What forms of payment are they able to accept on-board? Most major credit cards, and USD cash.
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  • adityabhatt1991 Aditya Bhatt, Student at DA-IICT Awesome trolling against shitty visa policies. I hope this works out. Sounds like something straight out of a James Bond movie. 2 years ago
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  • rashishukla Rashi Shukla, Deputy Manager HR at SlideShare Interesting! Love the out of the box thinking :) 2 years ago
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  • tottys TT TY interesting concept (: 2 years ago
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  • Blueseed Blueseed at Blueseed @courtneyBolton Thank you for the excellent questions.

    Some are answered in our FAQ - http://blueseed.co/faq.html

    Others are answered in the Seasteading FAQ - http://www.seasteading.org/about/faq/

    Re. how many engineers would like to live on the boat, see http://bit.ly/BlueseedStartupSurvey1

    We'll answer your other questions by email, and will probably create an extended FAQ.

    Again - thanks!
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  • courtneyBolton Courtney Bolton, UX Digital Product designer at http://courtneybolton.com Interesting PDF. I read the whole deck; but, still have a lot of questions.
    I'm not-entirely sure how this will work?...
    Tell me more,

    • Does Blueseed consider itself a nation-state?
    • Does page 33 imply that (only) American citizens are investors?
    • Page 33 sounds very over-priced; even from my USA, NYC Manhattan resident.

    • Does Blueseed require, or prohibit, investment by any of its holding companies? Am I required to sign a non-compete?
    • What type of growth, or deliverables-timeline, might be expected from a company aboard Blueseed?
    • It has SLAs?

    • What are its industry affiliations?
    • What parts are most advantageous, for aspiring start-ups? What affiliations would benefit most from the 'visa-free' nature of the boat?

    • Are LLCs, bootstraps, or NGOs able to incubate with Blueseed?
    • Are start-ups required to disclose their funding, prior to their application?
    • By what measures does Blueseed consider its business' successful?

    • How do you vet prospective entrepreneurs or business partners?
    • Do you have any expertise running hotels, theme-parks, or cruise ships?

    • Are tenants also considered investments? would a thing like conflict-of-interest exist?

    • Is the ship governed by a rule of law?
    • To what degree is Blueseed responsible for any business risks posed by its operations? or, endeavors?
    • How does Blueseed manage its imports?
    • Have delivery schedules, SLAs, & timelines been outlined for necessary goods & services?

    • What forms of payment does it prefer?
    • Does Blueseed outline payments-types, or any terms, on the part of its vendors? What forms of payment are they able to accept on-board?
    • What happens if a human body w/out a USA-VISA dies while on board the ship? What happens if a worker needs immediate medical care on Blueseed? Are women able to give birth? Can you grow your own food? What about livestock?

    • How many nationalities are represented on board the boat?

    • Will the boat accept Square? What about Paypal? How about standard-issue bank checks?
    • What makes you emphasize 'cash' on page-30 of the deck?

    • Does Blueseed have anything like a Wal-mart?
    What about a Best Buy? CostCo?

    • How is property defined, on-board?

    • What if all of my computers, servers, electron microscopes, or external hard drives get wet, misplaced, or somehow stolen?

    • Is anyone able to come on board the boat, at any time?
    • What airport would you recommend I fly into?
    • What forms of payment will Blueseed accept for provisional goods & services?
    • Is broadband internet guaranteed? How might that work?
    • Tell me more about the underwater fiber optic submarine cable.
    • Does Blueseed consider itself a container vessel for its properties? It's liable, as such?

    • Does it have a fixed location? What if its location moves, disappears, or is otherwise rendered non-functional?
    • As a international Korean citizen, how often would I my family be able to visit? What if I am unable to fly into the United States? May I board the ship from another location?

    • As a resident of Blueseed, am I able to accept sleep-over guests & visitors at any point?
    • Does Blueseed guarantee investment in any form from its friends the California entrepreneurs? Does it offer translation services?

    • Are pets, plants, biological specimens, yogurt, etc allowed onboard? May I grow any plants I like?

    • Does Blueseed offer any security?
    • What about scurvy?

    • Does it provide transportation?
    • Who controls its airspace?
    • Are inhabitants understood to beinvestments? or tenants?
    • What if a disagreement erupts onboard? How is it resolved?
    • Are firearms permitted? What about 'fireworks' ?

    • What internationally-recognized governments support Blueseed?
    • Does Blueseed support server-side backup? How?
    • Am I able to transact normal business operations, abroad Blueseed?

    • How will energy be supplied to the ship?
    • How might the business risk of indeterminate location-factors be quantified?
    • Who are Blueseed's primary partners? insurance agents?
    • What happens if goods/services delivery are delayed by external factors? How might this impact the well-being & competitiveness of my companies? Might they be adversely affected?

    • How many excellent, world-class engineers really want to live on a ship, anyway? Don't they want computers?

    • Are entrepreneurs (& their employees, working partners) required to live or work onboard the ship?

    • What other key factors might I consider as I begin to highlight blueseed.co & any other properties affiliated with Seasteading Institute?

    • Does Blueseed cap the productivity, or growth, of research- or product-based ventures using time-limits? Are entrepreneurs & their employees required to launch as public companies?

    • How does Sea-Steading Institute mission effect, or influence, blueseed.co? Will blueseed.co use travel agents, or real-estate brokers?

    • What, for example, makes Blueseed identify as part of the 'travel' industry --vs. the real-estate industry?

    • Will recycling, or wind-power, be offered as a function of the cargo-ship? Cruise ships are notorious polluters.

    • Likewise, I'm also curious about Seasteading Institute's ability (as stated) to actually exist independent from the grid, and/or independent from the protection, jurisdiction, &/or sanction of surrounding landmasses, governing bodies, coast guards, manufacturing plants, air-rights units, currencies, etc.

    • Where will you store; and how will you dispose of the ship's waste?

    I'll definitely an eye on this.
    thanks,

    @courtneyBolton
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