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2006 AAMSE National Specialty CEO Meeting




Managing Your Ethics Programs
    When Popular Programs and
     Harsh Realities Collide

              Thomas Marshall
             Executive Director
           American Association of
            Neurological Surgeons


    ©American Association of Neurological Surgeons
The Collision
• What Members See: Your Ethics Process is
  a banner proudly waved by your
  Association

• What Members Don’t See: What IF: the
  more you implement your Process, the
  higher the fiscal and legal risk

           American Association of Neurological Surgeons   2
“Gentlemen of the Jury, there are three kinds
 of liars: the Common Liar, the Damned Liar,
 and the Scientific Expert.”

                      - Judge William L. Foster
                        Harvard Law Review, 1898


            American Association of Neurological Surgeons   3
from the AANS Code of Ethics:
E. Ethics as Related to the Physician and the
     Legal Profession

    2.The neurological surgeon, as an expert
    witness, shall diligently and thoroughly prepare
    himself or herself with the relevant facts so that
    he or she can, to the best his or her ability,
    provide the court with accurate and documental
    opinions on the matters at hand.

              American Association of Neurological Surgeons   4
AANS Premise 1
Acting as an Expert Witness is, in fact,
 practicing medicine.

Therefore, AANS believes its Code of Ethics
 should apply in that venue as the other
 provisions of the Code.



             American Association of Neurological Surgeons   5
AANS Premise 2
 Ethics Code violations cannot be dealt with
 effectively simply by prohibiting them.

 It’s not a question of WHETHER violations
 will exist, but how to deal with them when
 they arise.



           American Association of Neurological Surgeons   6
The Mechanism
The Professional Conduct Committee:
• Loss of ABNS Certification
• Plagiarism
• “Typical” violations of Conduct Clause
• Violations of AANS Expert Witness
  Guidelines


            American Association of Neurological Surgeons   7
Mechanism’s Process
• Has a highly structured set of procedures

• Like any other committee, makes
  recommendations to Board of Directors

• Board can accept, reject, modify

• Is strictly structured to assure Due Process

              American Association of Neurological Surgeons   8
The Premises and Mechanism
     Legally Challenged


                   Austin
               v.
     American Association of
      Neurological Surgeons
             2001

        American Association of Neurological Surgeons   9
7th Circuit Court of Appeals
        Austin v. AANS
“Judges need the help of professional
associations…the AANS knows a great deal
more about anterior cervical fusion than any
judge, and if the Association finds in a
proceeding that comports with the basic
requirements of due process of law that a member
gave irresponsible testimony, that is a datum that
judges, juries and lawyers are entitled to weigh
heavily.”

              American Association of Neurological Surgeons   10
American Association of Neurological Surgeons   11
Why Is Everybody So Happy?
• Fiscal Ramifications
  • D & O Insurance
  • Legal Costs
• Legal Ramifications
• Member “Satisfaction”?? “Dear Valued
  Member: You must have missed your
  annual dues statement…..”

            American Association of Neurological Surgeons   12
What Price Glory?
• To what extent is your culture willing to
  enforce the Policies?
• Is your legal counsel afraid to end up in a
  courtroom?
• What will your carrier do to your rates?




             American Association of Neurological Surgeons   13
What Price Glory?
• Will your Board use Reserves to defend
  your Ethics program in Court?
• Will Leadership cut back other programs or
  infrastructure if the finances suffer?
• What does the RANK AND FILE
  MEMBERSHIP think of the program?



            American Association of Neurological Surgeons   14
“Don’t even go there…..”

• The “Cost/Benefit” factor:

 Does actively implementing your Ethics
 policy actually do what the association
 thinks it does?



           American Association of Neurological Surgeons   15
The Good…                            The Bad…
• Hero                               • Villain

• Immense Member                     • Except for the
  Pride                                Sanctioned Member
                                       (and her/his friends)
• Striking a blow to                 • “A Lynch Mob intent
  clean up The System                  on frontier justice”


             American Association of Neurological Surgeons     16
…and the Really Ugly
• Does Your Counsel like the Courtroom?

• Do you like paying your Insurance Carrier?

• Do you have the stomach for being dropped
  by your Insurance Carrier?


            American Association of Neurological Surgeons   17
More Information…
• www.aans.org →about AANS→Governance
  (AANS Code of Ethics; AANS Bylaws; Rules for
    AANS Expert Opinion Services)




  Thomas A. Marshall
  AANS Executive Director
  tam@aans.org 1.847.378.0502

            American Association of Neurological Surgeons   18

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Managing Your Ethics Programs

  • 1. 2006 AAMSE National Specialty CEO Meeting Managing Your Ethics Programs When Popular Programs and Harsh Realities Collide Thomas Marshall Executive Director American Association of Neurological Surgeons ©American Association of Neurological Surgeons
  • 2. The Collision • What Members See: Your Ethics Process is a banner proudly waved by your Association • What Members Don’t See: What IF: the more you implement your Process, the higher the fiscal and legal risk American Association of Neurological Surgeons 2
  • 3. “Gentlemen of the Jury, there are three kinds of liars: the Common Liar, the Damned Liar, and the Scientific Expert.” - Judge William L. Foster Harvard Law Review, 1898 American Association of Neurological Surgeons 3
  • 4. from the AANS Code of Ethics: E. Ethics as Related to the Physician and the Legal Profession 2.The neurological surgeon, as an expert witness, shall diligently and thoroughly prepare himself or herself with the relevant facts so that he or she can, to the best his or her ability, provide the court with accurate and documental opinions on the matters at hand. American Association of Neurological Surgeons 4
  • 5. AANS Premise 1 Acting as an Expert Witness is, in fact, practicing medicine. Therefore, AANS believes its Code of Ethics should apply in that venue as the other provisions of the Code. American Association of Neurological Surgeons 5
  • 6. AANS Premise 2 Ethics Code violations cannot be dealt with effectively simply by prohibiting them. It’s not a question of WHETHER violations will exist, but how to deal with them when they arise. American Association of Neurological Surgeons 6
  • 7. The Mechanism The Professional Conduct Committee: • Loss of ABNS Certification • Plagiarism • “Typical” violations of Conduct Clause • Violations of AANS Expert Witness Guidelines American Association of Neurological Surgeons 7
  • 8. Mechanism’s Process • Has a highly structured set of procedures • Like any other committee, makes recommendations to Board of Directors • Board can accept, reject, modify • Is strictly structured to assure Due Process American Association of Neurological Surgeons 8
  • 9. The Premises and Mechanism Legally Challenged Austin v. American Association of Neurological Surgeons 2001 American Association of Neurological Surgeons 9
  • 10. 7th Circuit Court of Appeals Austin v. AANS “Judges need the help of professional associations…the AANS knows a great deal more about anterior cervical fusion than any judge, and if the Association finds in a proceeding that comports with the basic requirements of due process of law that a member gave irresponsible testimony, that is a datum that judges, juries and lawyers are entitled to weigh heavily.” American Association of Neurological Surgeons 10
  • 11. American Association of Neurological Surgeons 11
  • 12. Why Is Everybody So Happy? • Fiscal Ramifications • D & O Insurance • Legal Costs • Legal Ramifications • Member “Satisfaction”?? “Dear Valued Member: You must have missed your annual dues statement…..” American Association of Neurological Surgeons 12
  • 13. What Price Glory? • To what extent is your culture willing to enforce the Policies? • Is your legal counsel afraid to end up in a courtroom? • What will your carrier do to your rates? American Association of Neurological Surgeons 13
  • 14. What Price Glory? • Will your Board use Reserves to defend your Ethics program in Court? • Will Leadership cut back other programs or infrastructure if the finances suffer? • What does the RANK AND FILE MEMBERSHIP think of the program? American Association of Neurological Surgeons 14
  • 15. “Don’t even go there…..” • The “Cost/Benefit” factor: Does actively implementing your Ethics policy actually do what the association thinks it does? American Association of Neurological Surgeons 15
  • 16. The Good… The Bad… • Hero • Villain • Immense Member • Except for the Pride Sanctioned Member (and her/his friends) • Striking a blow to • “A Lynch Mob intent clean up The System on frontier justice” American Association of Neurological Surgeons 16
  • 17. …and the Really Ugly • Does Your Counsel like the Courtroom? • Do you like paying your Insurance Carrier? • Do you have the stomach for being dropped by your Insurance Carrier? American Association of Neurological Surgeons 17
  • 18. More Information… • www.aans.org →about AANS→Governance (AANS Code of Ethics; AANS Bylaws; Rules for AANS Expert Opinion Services) Thomas A. Marshall AANS Executive Director tam@aans.org 1.847.378.0502 American Association of Neurological Surgeons 18