Week 35 - Lectures on Faith - Lecture Fifth.pptx

Week 35
Lectures on Faith
Lecture Fifth

LECTURE FIFTH
of FAITH
1 In our former lectures we treated of the being,
character, perfections, and attributes of God.
What we mean by perfections is: the perfections
which belong to all the attributes of his nature.
We shall, in this lecture, speak of the Godhead:
we mean the Father, Son, and holy spirit.
“perfections”

2 There are two personages who constitute the great matchless, governing,
and supreme power over all things — by whom all things were created and
made, that are created and made, whether visible or invisible, whether in
Heaven, on earth, or in the earth, under the earth, or throughout the
immensity of space — they are the Father and the Son: the Father being a
personage of spirit, glory, and power: possessing all perfection and fullness;
the Son, who was in the bosom of the Father, a personage of tabernacle,
made or fashioned like unto man, or being in the form and likeness of man,
or rather, man was formed after his likeness and in his image — he is also
the express image and likeness of the personage of the Father, possessing
all the fullness of the Father, or the same fullness with the Father, being
begotten of him, and was ordained from before the foundation of the
world to be a propitiation for the sins of all those who should believe on his
name, and is called the Son because of the flesh — and descended in
suffering below that which man can suffer, or in other words, suffered
greater sufferings and was exposed to more powerful contradictions than
any man can be.
But notwithstanding all this, he kept the law of God and remained without
sin, showing thereby that it is in the power of man to keep the law and
remain also without sin. And also, that by him a righteous judgment might
come upon all flesh, and that all who walk not in the law of God may justly
be condemned by the law and have no excuse for their sins. And he being
the Only Begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth, and having
overcome, received a fullness of the glory of the Father — possessing the
same mind with the Father, which mind is the holy spirit that bears record
of the Father and the Son, and these three are one, or in other words, these
three constitute the great matchless, governing, and supreme power over
all things, by whom all things were created and made that were created
and made. And these three constitute the Godhead and are one: the Father
and the Son possessing the same mind, the same wisdom, glory, power,
and fullness, filling all in all — the Son being filled with the fullness of the
mind, glory, and power, or in other words, the spirit, glory, and power of
the Father — possessing all knowledge and glory, and the same kingdom:
sitting at the right hand of power, in the express image and likeness of the
Father — a mediator for man — being filled with the fullness of the mind of
the Father, or in other words, the spirit of the Father, which spirit is shed
forth upon all who believe on his name and keep his commandments. And
all those who keep his commandments shall grow up from grace to grace
and become heirs of the Heavenly kingdom and joint-heirs with Jesus
Christ, possessing the same mind, being transformed into the same image
or likeness, even the express image of him who fills all in all: being filled
with the fullness of his glory, and become one in him, even as the Father,
Son, and holy spirit are one.
LECTURE FIFTH
of FAITH vs. 2
2 There are two personages who constitute the great
matchless, governing, and supreme power over all
things — by whom all things were created and made,
that are created and made, whether visible or invisible,
whether in Heaven, on earth, or in the earth, under
the earth, or throughout the immensity of space —
they are the Father and the Son: the Father being a
personage of spirit, glory, and power: possessing all
perfection and fullness; the Son, who was in the
bosom of the Father, a personage of tabernacle, made
or fashioned like unto man, or being in the form and
likeness of man, or rather, man was formed after his
likeness and in his image — he is also the express
image and likeness of the personage of the Father,
possessing all the fullness of the Father, or the same
fullness with the Father, being begotten of him, and
was ordained from before the foundation of the world
to be a propitiation for the sins of all those who should
believe on his name, and is called the Son because of
the flesh — and descended in suffering below that
which man can suffer, or in other words, suffered
greater sufferings and was exposed to more powerful
contradictions than any man can be.

Joseph Smith History – Part 2 (1820-1823)
2 After I had retired into the place where I had previously designed to go,
having looked around me and finding myself alone, I kneeled down and
began to offer up the desires of my heart to God. I had scarcely done so
when immediately I was seized upon by some power which entirely
overcame me and had such astonishing influence over me as to bind my
tongue so that I could not speak. Thick darkness gathered around me and it
seemed to me for a time as if I were doomed to sudden destruction. But
exerting all my powers to call upon God to deliver me out of the power of
this enemy which had seized upon me, and at the very moment when I was
ready to sink into despair and abandon myself to destruction — not to an
imaginary ruin, but to the power of some actual being from the unseen
world who had such a marvelous power as I had never before felt in any
being — just at this moment of great alarm, I saw a pillar of light exactly
over my head, above the brightness of the sun, which descended gradually
until it fell upon me. It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered
from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me, I
saw two personages (whose brightness and glory defy all description)
standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by
name, and said (pointing to the other), This is my beloved Son; hear him.
“…I saw two personages…”

Now we get to the Fifth Lecture, which is what I was hoping get to in this discussion. This is where we run into some problems. This is where by 1921 we have a
problem with the nature of God advanced by the Christian world. At one time in the temple endowment there was a player whose role was to be the Christian
minister who would, in his effort to convert Adam and Eve, says, “Do you believe in a God who sits on the top of a topless throne? Who center is everywhere and
whose circumference is nowhere? Do you believe in this great being, who is surrounded by a myriad of beings who have been saved, not for any act of theirs, but by
his good pleasure?” And Adam responds, “I do not. I cannot comprehend such a being.” The minister says, “That is the beauty of it!” Then he goes on to describe the
devil. I attended the temple so often before they made the changes in 1990 that I have the temple ceremony memorized. I still recite all the missing parts.
In any event, the Christian naysayers point to Mormons and say, oh you believe in an anthropomorphic God. We Mormons have anthropomorphized God. Instead
of deimorphizing man, Which is instead that we are made in His image (as the scriptures inform us) the Christians claim that we have turned God into our image.
It's one of those doctrinal points.
Well, the church’s leaders in 1921 were not content merely with the Personages given to us by Joseph Smith in the First Vision, and elaborated upon in the Fifth
Lecture, their enthusiasm has anthropomorphized and has created a being out of the Holy Spirit. We are going to deconstruct that. Then we are going to a look at
the scriptures that the committee in 1921 got high-centered on to reject the description of God in the Lectures.
Remember in Lecture 3 verse 4. In order for you to exercise faith you must have a correct idea of God's character, perfections and attributes. You got to have that.
If you don't have that then you are missing something that prevents you from having the right kind of faith. So the Fifth Lecture, verse 1: “We shall, in this lecture,
speak of the Godhead—we mean the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.” [Verse 2:] “There are two personages who constitute the great, matchless, governing, and
supreme, power over all things, by whom all things were created and made, that are created and made, whether visible or invisible, whether in heaven, on earth, or
in the earth, under the earth, or throughout the immensity of space. They are the Father and the Son—the Father being a personage of spirit, glory, and power,
possessing all perfection and fullness, the Son, who was in the bosom of the Father, a personage of tabernacle, made or fashioned like unto man, which bears record
and these three are one or another words these three constitute the great matchless government by whom all things are created and these three constitute the
Godhead and are one.” [And then if you go down to the bottom of that verse:] “And he being the Only Begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth, and having
overcome, received a fullness of the glory of the Father, possessing the same mind with the Father, which mind is the Holy Spirit, that bears record of the Father and
the Son, and these three are one; or, in other words, these three constitute the great, matchless, governing and supreme, power over all things; by whom all things
were created and made that were created and made, and these three constitute the Godhead, and are one; the Father and the Son possessing the same mind, the
same wisdom, glory, power, and fullness—filling all in all; the Son being filled with the fullness of the mind, glory, and power; or, in other words, the spirit, glory, and
power, of the Father, possessing all knowledge and glory, and the same kingdom, sitting at the right hand of power, in the express and likeness of the Father,
mediator for man, being filled with the fullness of the mind of the Father; or, in other words, the Spirit of the Father, which Spirit is shed forth upon all who believe on
his name and keep his commandments; and all those who keep his commandments shall grow up from grace to grace, and become heirs of the heavenly kingdom,
and joint heirs with Jesus Christ; possessing the same mind, being transformed into the same image or likeness, even the express image of him who fills all in all;
being filled with the fullness of his glory, and become one in him, even as the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are one.”
Faith
Lecture 2: Idaho Falls, Idaho
9-28-13 © Denver Snuffer

Well, the committee in 1921 concluded that this lecture was wrong about God the Father because he says he was a personage of spirit, glory and
power. And the Son was a personage of tabernacle. They believe that the personage of the Father is a personage of tabernacle as well. That was
the first mistake they thought that Joseph Smith, who vouched for the doctrine in these lectures, who stood in the presence of God the Father and
His Son Jesus Christ, had made. At least in the estimation of this committee - who had not stood in God's presence. Because Joseph erred in
doctrine they believed. And they thought they had “keys” that allowed them to change anything, including doctrine. Their “keys” were wholly
derived from Joseph, and yet somehow made them superior to Joseph. If you think about that for just a moment you see the foolishness of such a
proposition. They concluded that Joseph Smith was wrong about his description of the Holy Spirit. And that the Holy Spirit is not merely one of the
Godhead comprised by the mind of the Father and the Son, but was an individual, a personage in its own right. I suppose the Christians are right in
one sense. Having an anthropomorphic God in the Father and Son, our committee wanted to do the same with the Holy Spirit.
It is clear there is a disagreement between Joseph Smith and this committee. Therefore, either Joseph Smith had an incorrect idea of God's
character, perfections and attributes, or alternatively George F. Richards, Anthony W. Ivins, Melvin J. Ballard, James E. Talmage, John A. Widstoe, and
Joseph Fielding Smith had an incorrect idea of God's character, and perfections and attributes because they disagree on this Lecture. The one
saying these ideas are so vile and so error ridden that it must be taken out of the scriptures, and the other saying this is a true statement of our
doctrine, and therefore, needs to be in our scriptures.
Consequently and correspondingly, either Joseph Smith did not, indeed could not, have faith. Or alternatively George F. Richards, Anthony W. Ivins,
Melvin J. Ballard, James E. Talmage, John A. Widstoe, and Joseph Fielding Smith did not, indeed could not, have faith. One or the other is true
because they disagree on the definition of God. And you must have a correct idea of His character, perfection and attributes in order to exercise
faith in Him. And so now we find ourselves having to choose. It's a healthy thing. You ought to have to choose. You ought to have your salvation at
peril on how you choose. You ought to have to decide between whether you believe a man who stood in the presence of God, and bore testimony
of what he saw, and what he felt, and what he heard, and others who constitute a committee that disagree with him. You should have to choose.
And your eternal peril should hang in the balance as you make that choice. That is a perfect conundrum, in my view. Grow up. Accept the burden.
Find out. Learn about God. Or be damned by your carelessness, by your indifference, by your refusal to go forward. It ought to be so. And it ought
to be put to you plainly. And you ought to have to choose. And you ought to have to choose every time you hear someone get up and offer
something to you and conclude in the name of Jesus Christ. Because they are either offering you something from Him that will save you, or they
are offering something that they hope will damn you, because they're signing you up on the wrong team. It ought to be so. Everlastingly, it ought
to be so.
Faith

Notice that in the definition of the Father and Son both, according to Joseph Smith, both are personages. But the Father is a personage who is
described as consisting of spirit, glory and power. The Son on the other hand is described as a personage of tabernacle. What is the difference
between a personage of spirit, glory and power, and a personage of tabernacle? What's the difference between the two? What is a tabernacle? If
you were looking at the Tabernacle in the days of Moses, it was something that got set up temporarily and got taken down. And Christ is a
personage of tabernacle. He came as you have come, to temporarily occupy a body. When Christ was resurrected, the body could enter into the
upper level of a locked room without tearing a hole in the ceiling in order to access the room where the apostles were meeting. He could come and
He could go from inside a locked upper room where cowering disciples feared for their own safety in the aftermath of the martyrdom of their Lord.
He may have been a personage who could say, "Handle me and see." They may have been able to actually make contact with Him. But that
tabernacle was no longer confined by the laws governing mortal tabernacles. Read the description of what He did when He appeared to the
Nephites. It's not like your tabernacle. You hope to inherit a better one.
Well let's take a few scriptures. We ought to pay attention to them on this point as well. Doctrine and Covenants 131:7-8: “There is no such thing as
immaterial matter. All spirit is matter, but it is more fine or pure, and can only be discerned by purer eyes; We cannot see it; but when our bodies are
purified we shall see that it is all matter.” [Therefore, if the Father, according to verse 2 of Lecture 5, is a personage of spirit, that does not mean He
is not also made of material matter. Spirit is matter, more refined, pure, and can only be defined by purer eyes.] “We cannot see it; but when our
bodies are purified we will see that it is all matter.”
The Father is a personage of spirit, glory and power, made of something more refined and pure, but is absolutely comprised of something that is
matter. Though in the equation of things, energy and matter, glory and power are things about which, when you get far enough down the road,
you find out that there some equivalencies in all of that. The Son on the other hand, was made to be tabernacled here. The biggest problem, if you
turn back to D&C 130: 22 is this: “The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man's; the Son also; but the Holy Ghost has not a body of
flesh and bones, but is a personage of Spirit. Were it not so, the Holy Ghost could not dwell in us.”
What exactly is it that dwells inside of you, and is a personage of spirit? What exactly is it that you hope to become, if not another member of the
Godhead? What exactly is it that Joseph Smith is saying in this Lecture on Faith about the mind of God? Understand, he had in front of him, because
he was in the process of actually doing it during this timeframe, the Inspired Version of the scriptures.
Faith

LECTURE FIFTH
of FAITH vs. 2
2 …But notwithstanding all this, he kept the law
of God and remained without sin, showing
thereby that it is in the power of man to keep
the law and remain also without sin. And also,
that by him a righteous judgment might come
upon all flesh, and that all who walk not in the
law of God may justly be condemned by the
law and have no excuse for their sins. And he
being the Only Begotten of the Father, full of
grace and truth, and having overcome,
received a fullness of the glory of the Father —
possessing the same mind with the Father,
which mind is the holy spirit that bears record
of the Father and the Son, and these three are
one, or in other words, these three constitute
the great matchless, governing, and supreme
power over all things, by whom all things were
created and made that were created and
made.
any man can be. But notwithstanding all this, he kept the law of God and
remained without sin, showing thereby that it is in the power of man to
keep the law and remain also without sin. And also, that by him a righteous
judgment might come upon all flesh, and that all who walk not in the law of
God may justly be condemned by the law and have no excuse for their sins.
And he being the Only Begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth, and
having overcome, received a fullness of the glory of the Father —
possessing the same mind with the Father, which mind is the holy spirit that
bears record of the Father and the Son, and these three are one, or in other
words, these three constitute the great matchless, governing, and supreme
power over all things, by whom all things were created and made that were
created and made. And these three constitute the Godhead and are one:
the Father and the Son possessing the same mind, the same wisdom, glory,
power, and fullness, filling all in all — the Son being filled with the fullness
of the mind, glory, and power, or in other words, the spirit, glory, and
power of the Father — possessing all knowledge and glory, and the same
kingdom: sitting at the right hand of power, in the express image and
likeness of the Father — a mediator for man — being filled with the fullness
of the mind of the Father, or in other words, the spirit of the Father, which
spirit is shed forth upon all who believe on his name and keep his
commandments. And all those who keep his commandments shall grow up
from grace to grace and become heirs of the Heavenly kingdom and joint-
heirs with Jesus Christ, possessing the same mind, being transformed into
the same image or likeness, even the express image of him who fills all in
all: being filled with the fullness of his glory, and become one in him, even
as the Father, Son, and holy spirit are one.

2 …And these three constitute the Godhead and
are one: the Father and the Son possessing the
same mind, the same wisdom, glory, power, and
fullness, filling all in all — the Son being filled with
the fullness of the mind, glory, and power, or in
other words, the spirit, glory, and power of the
Father — possessing all knowledge and glory, and
the same kingdom: sitting at the right hand of
power, in the express image and likeness of the
Father — a mediator for man — being filled with
the fullness of the mind of the Father, or in other
words, the spirit of the Father, which spirit is shed
forth upon all who believe on his name and keep
his commandments. And all those who keep his
commandments shall grow up from grace to grace
and become heirs of the Heavenly kingdom and
joint-heirs with Jesus Christ, possessing the same
mind, being transformed into the same image or
likeness, even the express image of him who fills all
in all: being filled with the fullness of his glory, and
become one in him, even as the Father, Son, and
holy spirit are one.
any man can be. But notwithstanding all this, he kept the law of God and
remained without sin, showing thereby that it is in the power of man to
keep the law and remain also without sin. And also, that by him a righteous
judgment might come upon all flesh, and that all who walk not in the law of
God may justly be condemned by the law and have no excuse for their sins.
And he being the Only Begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth, and
having overcome, received a fullness of the glory of the Father —
possessing the same mind with the Father, which mind is the holy spirit that
bears record of the Father and the Son, and these three are one, or in other
words, these three constitute the great matchless, governing, and supreme
power over all things, by whom all things were created and made that were
created and made. And these three constitute the Godhead and are one:
the Father and the Son possessing the same mind, the same wisdom, glory,
power, and fullness, filling all in all — the Son being filled with the fullness
of the mind, glory, and power, or in other words, the spirit, glory, and
power of the Father — possessing all knowledge and glory, and the same
kingdom: sitting at the right hand of power, in the express image and
likeness of the Father — a mediator for man — being filled with the fullness
of the mind of the Father, or in other words, the spirit of the Father, which
spirit is shed forth upon all who believe on his name and keep his
commandments. And all those who keep his commandments shall grow up
from grace to grace and become heirs of the Heavenly kingdom and joint-
heirs with Jesus Christ, possessing the same mind, being transformed into
the same image or likeness, even the express image of him who fills all in
all: being filled with the fullness of his glory, and become one in him, even
as the Father, Son, and holy spirit are one.
LECTURE FIFTH
of FAITH vs. 2

“I believe
our net was
perfect.”
“Then,” said
the Master…

Faith
You know, it's really that first parable where the busy young
man who was on his way winds up braiding rope. (Referring
to Ten Parables.) He was doing that for years on end -
braiding rope, occupying his hands. Then he’s tying the net
with the Master. And during the course of that
apprenticeship, he came to know who the Master was.
When finally the Master asks him whether he knows who He
is, he did. Then the Master then asks of him, “What do you
want of me?” The response comes, “Well, there was a time
when I would've asked a lot. But now, I'm just content.” It's
enough. It's enough and to spare. Having an actual
knowledge that the course that you are pursuing is
according to the will of God, is enough and to spare.
Towards the bottom of verse 4: [Lecture Sixth] “nothing
short of an actual knowledge of their being the favorites of
heaven, and of their having embraced that order of things
which God has established for the redemption of man, will
enable them to exercise that confidence in him, necessary for
them to overcome the world, and obtain that crown of glory
which is laid up for them that fear God.”

Ten Lectures – Lecture 4
Covenants
“When the Lord hung on the cross, and the sun was
darkened at noon, if you had looked up in the sky to
see what was overhead, you would see the sacrificial
sheep in the pattern of the stars; what we call Aries
today. Proceeding forth from under the forefoot of
Aries, we have renamed it “the bands of Pisces,” but it
should be more appropriately rendered as the net of
Pisces. Because from under the fore leg of the Lamb,
was cast out a net. This is the New Testament pattern
or church. That net gathers in at least two kinds of
fish. The larger one that is gathered in the net is
forever circumnavigating the ecliptic, and will do so
eternally. The larger group in the star field, though
caught in the net cast by the Lamb will never rise up
to the North. The smaller group, the smaller star field
of Pisces, which also is caught in that same net, is
pointed to the sides of the North, where the Throne
of the Father is to be found; that place around which
all things revolve and where the Father presides and
sustains all of His creations.”

LECTURE FIFTH
of FAITH
3 From the foregoing account of the Godhead
which is given in his revelations, the saints have
a sure foundation laid for the exercise of faith
unto life and salvation through the atonement
and mediation of Jesus Christ, by whose blood
they have a forgiveness of sins and also a sure
reward laid up for them in Heaven, even that
of partaking of the fullness of the Father and
the Son through the spirit. As the Son partakes
of the fullness of the Father through the spirit,
so the saints are, by the same spirit, to be
partakers of the same fullness, to enjoy the
same glory, for as the Father and the Son are
one, so in like manner the saints are to be one
in them: through the love of the Father, the
mediation of Jesus Christ, and the gift of the
holy spirit they are to be heirs of God and
joint-heirs with Jesus Christ.

LECTURE FIFTH
of FAITH
Question 1: Of what do the foregoing lectures treat?
Answer: Of the being, perfections, and attributes of the Deity.
Question 2: What are we to understand by the perfections of the
Deity?
A: The perfections which belong to his attributes.
Question 3: How many personages are there in the Godhead?
A: Two: the Father and the Son.
Question 4: How do you prove that there are two personages in the
Godhead?
A: By the Scriptures:
Gen. 2:8: And the Lord God said unto the Only Begotten, who was with
him from the beginning, Let us make man in our image, after our
likeness — and it was done. Gen. 2:19: And the Lord God said unto the
Only Begotten, Behold, the man is become as one of us: to know good
and evil. John 9:19: And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own
self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

LECTURE FIFTH
of FAITH
Question 6: How do you prove that the
Father is a personage of glory and of
power?
A: Isa. 22:1: The sun shall be no more thy
light by day, neither for brightness shall
the moon give light unto thee: but the
Lord shall be unto thee an everlasting
light, and thy God thy glory. 1 Chr. 12:12:
Thine, O Lord, is the greatness, and the
power, and the glory. Ps. 29:1: The voice of
the Lord is upon the waters: the God of
glory thunders. Ps. 79:3: Help us, O God of
our salvation, for the glory of thy name.
Rom. 1:4: And changed the glory of the
incorruptible God into an image made like
to corruptible men.
Secondly, of power.
1 Chr. 12:12: Thine, O Lord, is the greatness, and the power,
and the glory. Jer. 13:3: Ah! Lord God, behold, thou hast
made the earth and the heavens by thy great power and
stretched-out arm; and there is nothing too hard for thee.
Deut. 2:7: And because he loved thy fathers, therefore he
chose their seed after them and brought them out in his
sight with his mighty power. 2 Sam. 10:9: God is my strength
and power. Job 10: 3–4: He stretches out the north over the
empty place, and hangs the earth upon nothing. He binds
up the waters in his thick clouds and the cloud is not rent
under them. He holds back the face of his throne and
spreads his cloud upon it. He has compassed the waters with
bounds until the day and night come to an end. The Pillars
of Heaven tremble and are astonished at his reproof. He
divides the sea with his power and by his understanding he
smites through the proud. By his spirit he has garnished the
heavens; his hand has formed the crooked serpent. Lo, these
are parts of his ways, but how little a portion is heard of him?
But the thunder of his power, who can understand?
T&C 93:11: “The glory of God is intelligence,
or in other words, light and truth…”

LECTURE FIFTH
of FAITH
Question 7: What is the Son?
A: First, He is a personage of
tabernacle.
Question 8: How do you prove it?
A: John 9:7: Jesus says unto him, Have
I been so long time with you and yet
have you not known me, Philip? He
that has seen me has seen the Father.
And how do you say then, Show us
the Father? Do you not believe that I
am in the Father and the Father in
me? The words that I speak unto you I
speak not of myself, but the Father
that dwells in me. He does the works.
Believe me that I am in the Father and
the Father in me.
Secondly, and being a personage of tabernacle was made or
fashioned like unto man, or being in the form and likeness of man.
Phil. 1:7: Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who,
being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with
God, but made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the
form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of man. And being
found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself and became
obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Heb. 1:5:
Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he
also himself likewise took part of the same. For verily he took not on
him the nature of angels, but he took on him the seed of Abraham.
Thirdly, he is also in the likeness of the personage of the Father.
Heb. 1:1: God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in
time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days
spoken unto us by his Son, whom he has appointed heir of all
things, by whom also he made the worlds, who being the brightness
of his glory and the express image of his person. Again, Phil. 1:7: Let
this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the
form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God.

LECTURE FIFTH
of FAITH
Question 9: Was it by the Father and the Son that all things were
created and made that were created and made?
A: It was.
Col. 1:3–4. Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every
creature, for by him were all things created that are in heaven, and that
are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions,
principalities, or powers. All things were created by him and for him, and
he is before all things, and by him all things consist. Gen. 1:1: In the
beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Heb. 1:1: God has in
these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he has appointed heir
of all things, by whom also he made the worlds.
Question 10: Does he possess the fullness of the Father?
A: He does.
Col. 1:4: For it pleased the Father that in him should all fullness dwell.
Col. 1:7: For in him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. Eph. 1:3:
Which is his [Christ’s] body, the fullness of him that fills all in all.

LECTURE FIFTH
of FAITH
Question 11: Why was he called
the Son?
A: Because of the flesh.
Luke 1:6: That holy thing which
shall be born of thee shall be called
the Son of God.
Matt. 2:4: And Jesus, when he was
baptized, went up straightway out
of the water. And lo, the Heavens
were opened unto him, and he
(John) saw the spirit of God
descending like a dove and lighting
upon him, and lo, a voice from
Heaven saying, This is my Beloved
Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Psalms 2:2
…I will declare the decree: the Lord has
said unto me, You are my son; this day
have I begotten you. Ask of me and I shall
give you the heathen for your inheritance,
and the farthest parts of the earth for
your possession. You shall break them
with a rod of iron. You shall dash them in
pieces like a potter’s vessel.
Christ the Father
DenverSnuffer.com
September 18, 2012
After Christ redeems the brother of Jared from the fall (Ether 3:13), He explains to the brother of Jared
the doctrine of Christ’s Fatherhood. The doctrine is simple. It is an elaboration on what Christ taught
in the New Testament.
Here is the doctrine: “Behold, I am he who was prepared from the foundation of the world to redeem
my people. Behold, I am Jesus Christ. I am the Father and the Son. In me shall all mankind have life,
and that eternally, even they who shall believe on my name; and they shall become my sons and my
daughters.” (Ether 3:14) [Ether 1:13]. In other words, because of our sins and the fall we have
experienced, our relationship as sons and daughters of the Father cannot be restored without an
intermediary who is willing to cleanse us and to accept us as His son.
This is what Jesus had reference to in John 14:6 [John 9:7] when He declared: “I am the way, the truth,
and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” If you find yourself in the circumstance that
a voice from heaven declares unto you that you are a son of God because this day He has begotten
you (Psalms 2:7) [Psalms 2:2] that voice will be Christ’s, your Father will be Christ, and you will
understand that Christ is the Father and the Son.

LECTURE FIFTH
of FAITH
Question 12: Was he ordained of the Father, from
before the foundation of the world, to be a
propitiation for the sins of all those who should
believe on his name?
A: He was.
1 Pet. 1:4: For as much as you know that you were
not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and
gold, from your vain conversation (received by
tradition from your fathers), but with the precious
blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and
without spot, who verily was foreordained before
the foundation of the world, but was manifested in
these last times for you. Rev. 4:8: And all that dwell
upon the earth shall worship him [the beast]
whose names are not written in the book of life of
the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
1 Cor. 1:7: But we speak the wisdom of God in a
mystery, even the hidden mystery which God
ordained before the world unto our glory.

LECTURE FIFTH
of FAITH
Question 13: Do the Father and the Son possess the same mind?
A: They do.
John 5:5: I (Christ) can of my own self do nothing. As I hear, I
judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my own will,
but the will of the Father who sent me. John 5:14: For I (Christ)
came down from Heaven not to do my own will, but the will of
him that sent me. John 6:29: I (Christ) and my Father are one.
Question 14: What is this mind?
A: The holy spirit.
John 9:13: But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto
you from the Father, even the spirit of truth which proceeds from
the Father, he shall testify of me (Christ). Gal. 1:13: And because
you are sons, God has sent forth the spirit of his Son into your
hearts.
Question 15: Do the Father, Son, and holy spirit constitute the
Godhead?
A: They do. Let the student commit this paragraph to memory.

LECTURE FIFTH
of FAITH
Question 13: Does the believer in Christ Jesus, through
the gift of the spirit, become one with the Father and the
Son, as the Father and the Son are one?
A: They do.
John 9:21: Neither pray I for these [the apostles] alone, but
for them also who shall believe on me through their word,
that they all may be one as thou, Father, art in me, and I
in thee, that they also may be one in us, that the world
may believe that thou hast sent me.
Question 17: Does the foregoing account of the
Godhead lay a sure foundation for the exercise of faith in
him unto life and salvation?
A: It does.
Question 18: How do you prove it?
A: By the third paragraph of this lecture.
Let the student commit this also.
“bonds”
“welding link”
“sealing”

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