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The Religious Identity of Christian Converts from Judaism 
During the Holocaust  
 
 
Elysia Martin  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Abstract 
The purpose of this research is to analyze the motives and the effects of conversion on the                                 
religious convictions of European Jews who converted to Christianity during the years leading                         
up to the Final Solution. The overarching goal of the research is to identify sincerity when                               
possible, and to examine how conversion shaped the religious identity of converts throughout                         
their lives. The experience of second generation converts and Mischlinge were also included in                           
this study to give a broader perspective. Oral testimonies from the online archives of the United                               
States Holocaust Memorial Museum were used as primary sources to identify the effects of                           
conversion on religious convictions before and after the Holocaust. In turn, this research will                           
help identify whether these converts wanted to separate themselves from their Jewish roots, thus                           
making a distinction between their former Jewish religion and their ethnicity. Additionally, this                         
research will aid in discovering to what extent these recent converts suffered as Jews, even if                               
they self­identified as Christians. The findings from these sources shed light on the larger                           
theological issues arising in the context of Jewish­Christian relations, explore the importance of                         
religious identity in the face of trauma, and tackle the question of sincere conversion during the                               
Holocaust, when most only converted for protection.  
 
Introduction 
 
Since the birth of Christianity, converting the Jews has been somewhat of the “ultimate                           
goal.” During the age of emancipation, however, Jews began to convert on their own for a                               
variety of reasons. The motives for conversion vary based on the time and place in which the                                 
convert lived. In this study, the lives of converts who lived during the Holocaust were examined                               
in order to ascertain the effects of conversion on their lives. Identifying the motives behind                             
conversion provide a gateway to understanding the ways in which conversion affected the                         
converts later in life, and gives the historical context necessary to understand the implications for                             
the Jewish community and for Jewish­Christian relations.  
When studying conversion in the context of Jewish history, scholars have tried to                         
ascertain the sincerity of these conversions. However, certain eras in Jewish history have posed                           
 
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more of a problem than others. For example, during the age of emancipation Jews could convert                               
for material gain, or to flee anti­semitism, even if it was only minor or hindered them in any way                                     
occupationally. There was no impending tragedy that caused Jews to convert during this time.                           
They had the freedom, as well as the potential benefits to look forward to. As fellow convert                                 
Heinrich Heine put it, conversion was “the ticket of admission into European culture.” When                             1
looking at conversion during the years leading up to the Final Solution, however, there is an                               
added complication. This impending tragedy and the trauma felt afterwards by survivors makes                         
studying the motives for conversion and the relationship of the converts to Judaism even more                             
complex. Sincerity, therefore, becomes almost impossible to measure. Additionally, it is                     
necessary to take into consideration that many conversions in this era were done for protection.                             
In some cases, Jews who were converted as small children still felt an obligation or an                               
attachment to Judaism later in life, while others felt no attachment at all. The complex                             
combination of these factors make studying conversion in the Holocaust, especially when                       
thinking about it in terms of sincerity, even more complicated. The results, however, yield a                             
greater understanding of the ways in which trauma affects religious identity. Ultimately, the hope                           
is that by studying the individual lives of converts rather than just numerical data, a new level of                                   
understanding of the complexity of religious identity in the Holocaust will be reached.  
Many factors come into play when working with oral testimonies recorded up to fifty                           
years after the events took place. Moreover, it must be noted that there were likely a combination                                 
of factors contributing to their decision to convert beyond pragmatism, especially depending on                         
1
 "Heinrich Heine: German Lyric Poet and Jewish Political Agitator." ​Sitewide ATOM. N.p., 03 July 2012. 
Web. 22 July 2016. 
<http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2012/07/heinrich­heine­german­lyric­poet­and­jewish­political­agitator
/>. 
 
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the region in which they lived. Converts came from a myriad of backgrounds. Some were fully                               
Jewish, but had received no religious instruction and had grown up in a secular environment,                             
while others were raised in traditional Jewish homes. Still, some were the children of parents                             
who had converted previously, or were the children of an intermarriage, making them                         
Mischlinge under Nazi law, and therefore, subject to certain legislation. Taking religious                       
background, age, education, life experiences, and the region in which they lived into account,                           
converts generally either felt some obligation to Judaism after converting, were confused about                         
their religious identity, walked away from religion altogether, or had a genuine spiritual                         
transformation upon converting.  
I. Obligation to Judaism 
The level of Jewish education differed in converts; however, a number of them, even                           
after converting, demonstrated varying degrees of attachment to their Jewish heritage, feeling an                         
obligation to Judaism in some way. In some cases, this meant that they still considered                             
themselves Jewish, and in others cases they wanted to honor Jewish family members who                           
perished by identifying as Jewish. Still, others wanted to raise Jewish children even if they were                               
raised in a secular household. Many times, with this feeling of “obligation” came a sense of dual                                 
loyalty and even betrayal to Judaism, even to the point of feeling completely out of place in both                                   
churches and synagogues, as exemplified through Arlette De Long’s testimony. Another aspect                       
of feeling obligated to Judaism in some way, is the basic acknowledgment of one’s Jewish                             
heritage despite previous indifference or even hatred towards it. Jews who experienced                       
conversion likely cycled through the feelings of indifference, betrayal, guilt, and                     
 
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acknowledgment, but in the following cases, they arrived at a place where they felt a sense of                                 
duty to continue their Jewish heritage by various means.  
It is difficult to ascertain the number of conversion in countries such as France and Great                                 
Britain, whose civil governments did not recognize any change in one’s religious status. There                           
were generally three kinds of converts in 19th century France: Jews who converted for social and                               
material reasons, Jews who were looking for the meaning of life through spirituality, experienced                           
a genuine conversion, and afterwards shared their faith with their friends, and Jews who were                             
uneducated, poor, and were swept up in the words of the missionaries. Scholar Todd Endelman                             
suggests that for those who fit in the third category of poor, uneducated Jews, “it is clear that                                   
poverty and emotional distress rather than social prejudice and occupational discrimination were                       
responsible for their abandonment of Judaism.” Endelman also notes that the small number of                             2
French Jews who did convert for social/occupational reasons during the middle of the 19th                           
century, were not converting because they were on the outskirts of society, but because they                             
were very integrated, and wanted to avoid any possible hiccup in their complete assimilation and                             
acculturation. Primarily, Jews in the first half of the 19th century were able to gain success and                                 
social status without converting. The majority of Jews during this period in French history were                             
being integrated into society without encountering significant hostility. In addition, there was not                         
a significant amount of French Jews who emigrated from France during this time, showing that                             
conditions in France and Germany were not as similar as some scholars have previously                           
suggested.  3
2
 ​Endelman, Todd M. "Anti­Semitism and Apostasy in Nineteenth­Century France: A Response to Jonathan 
Helfand." ​Jewish History 5.2 (1991): 57­64. Web. (p. 61).  
3
 Endelman, pp. 59­63 
 
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Jews in 1930s France were generally safe, but upon Hitler’s takeover, some Jews were                           
not above converting or posing as Christians in order to protect themselves. Arlette De Long’s                             
family did just that. Arlette was born in Brocourt, Somme France on June 15, 1937, and as the                                   
only Jewish family in their small village of 300 people, in addition to being the only doctors in                                   
the area, her family lived comfortably. Beginning in 1940 when Germany invaded France, life                           
changed for Arlette’s family. Even before Kristallnacht, her parents had an ominous feeling that                           
it was becoming unsafe to be a Jew in Europe. At this time, they hid their Jewish identity, which                                     
was relatively easy since it was already assumed that no one in her village was Jewish. When                                 
Arlette was ten, she and her family moved to Paris. She recounts this time as the first time she                                     
became aware that her family was Jewish.   4
Once in Paris, her family continued to pretend they were Christians and had Arlette                           
baptized into the Catholic church. Consequently, she was able to attend Catholic school and                           
church regularly. Regarding her feelings about church, Arlette thought the priest was “very nice”                           
and that what was taught each Sunday was “very simple­­ If you are good, God loves you.” “The                                   
Jewish religion did not offer the same kind of comfort...God was removed [from us]...it was a                               
God that every year looked at you and decided whether you would live or die.” Arlette                               
continued, “I didn’t like the synagogue. It looked like just a room­­an empty, cold room.” She                               
was also afraid of the rabbi, since he had daughters that he for whom he had arranged marriages                                   
against their will. With all of these conflicting feelings, senses, and beliefs, Arlette decided that                             
she “did not like... being a Jew.”   5
4
 Arlette De Long Oral History Interview, February 6, 1993 by Larry Papier. 
<​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn511640​>.  
5
 Arlette De Long  
 
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During this time she remembers that her father still attended synagogue, but there were                           
no Jewish symbols in their home, and they did not keep kosher. They did, however, celebrate the                                 
major Jewish holidays. She specifically remembers Yom Kippur, which left an imprint on her                           
young memory after all these years. After turning eighteen and moving out on her own, Arlette                               
stopped attending religious services. After immigrating to the United States in 1962, getting                         
married to a Methodist to escape her Jewish heritage, and trying to take her children to                               
synagogue, Arlette decided to raise her children without any religious instruction, in order to let                             
them choose for themselves. Upon moving to the United States if people asked what religion                             
was, she would tell them she was Jewish. Of her two children, her son had neither a connection                                   
with nor a desire to embrace Judaism. Her daughter, on the other hand, was so inquisitive about                                 
the Holocaust that it encouraged Arlette to embrace her Jewish roots as an adult, so much so, that                                   
she said she could “never convert,” despite the fact that she had previously never felt a strong                                 
connection to Judaism.    6
Later in life, Arlette attended synagogue, but always felt “out of place.” She also went to                               
church sporadically, but would always cry when she attended, and could not stay because she felt                               
that she “didn’t belong.” It would seem that Arlette never considered herself truly converted                           
from Judaism to Catholicism, despite her baptism as a child. Furthermore, this fact illustrates that                             
in Arlette’s case, her Jewish identity was more closely linked with culture and less with religion.                               
Additionally, Arlette’s comment about Judaism teaching that every year God “ looked at you and                             
decided whether you would live or die,” points out Arlette’s desire, even if subconscious, to                             
understand of the nature of God­­whether he was a good, loving God, or a God full of wrath who                                     
6
 Arlette De Long  Oral History Interview, February 6, 1993 by Larry Papier. 
<​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn511640​>.  
 
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had allowed the Holocaust to happen. Her family was not religious, but she did remember that                               
Yom Kippur had the most impact on her as a child. It would make sense then that this Day of                                       
Atonement would shape her beliefs about the nature of God, since it is the day that God                                 
determines your fate. Though Arlette may have been uncertain about her religious convictions at                           
this point in her life, she was ultimately grasping for some understanding of God. Arlette was                               
taught in Catholic school that “if you are good, God loves you,” and from her comments, it                                 
would seem that although this version of God’s character was a bit less frightening, she still felt a                                   
connection to Judaism. Although Arlette felt out of place at both synagogues and churches                           
throughout her life, she nevertheless came to terms with her Jewish heritage, and found it easier                               
to embrace Judaism than Christianity.    7
Like Arlette, Denise Epstein was born in Paris, France in 1929 to highly educated,                           
acculturated parents. Her father was a successful banker, and her mother was a famous author.                             
When the war broke out, however, her mother’s books were unable to be published because she                               
was Jewish, and Denise was forced to wear the yellow star. Within the span of a few months,                                   
both of Denise’s parents were arrested, and she was secretly baptized in Paris in 1939. After                               
receiving certificates of disappearance for both of her parents, Denise was sent to a Catholic                             
boarding school where all outside contact was prohibited. The nuns at this convent adamantly                           
tried to convince her that her best option was to stay there and become a nun so that “at least God                                         
would protect her;” however, Denise was not interested. Eventually, she was given permission                         
not to attend mass anymore, and to start completely embracing her life as a Jew. After this point                                   
in her life, she “refused to be Catholic.” After the war, Denise began working at her father’s old                                   
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 Arlette De Long  
 
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bank and met her future husband there, who was not Jewish, but had fought in the war and had a                                       
tumultuous childhood as well. Upon meeting each other, the couple decided that raising happy                           
children would be the solution to overcoming their terrible pasts. Specifically, Denise felt it                           
would be a “victory” to raise Jewish children.    8
Though Denise came from a very assimilated Jewish family, the decision to completely                         
reject Catholicism and embrace Judaism at such a young age (she would have been ten or eleven                                 
years old) is astonishing. Also interesting to note is that though Denise did not marry a Jewish                                 
man, she felt that it would be a “victory” to raise Jewish children. Whether Denise’s decision to                                 
reject Catholicism and embrace Judaism had more to do with her experiences at the convent or                               
feeling an obligation to her parent’s faith, her decision nonetheless exemplifies the eventual                         
acknowledgement of some Holocaust survivors of their Judaism despite initial conversion.   
In some cases, converts were exposed to both Judaism and Christianity at a young age,                             
which confused them and made it difficult for them to feel a connection to either religion.                               
Gertrude Goetz experienced this type of pull in both directions. She was born in Vienna, Austria                               
in 1941 and was the only child of her parents. Gertrude’s family owned a dry goods store and                                   
lived in a Gentile area, thus she was not exposed to Judaism. Her mother did not believe in                                   
anything even though she was raised Jewish. Her father, on the other hand, came from a religious                                 
home, but after marrying, he stopped observing any traditions since his wife was not religious.                             
There was one Jewish family that lived in the same apartment complex as Gertrude’s family, and                               
those children became her best friends. It was only when Gertrude went over to this family’s                               
apartment that she was exposed to Jewish traditions. For a brief time Gertrude attended first                             
8
 Transcript, Denise Epstein Oral History Interview, August 17, 2005, by Vera Frankl. 
<​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn517507​>.  
 
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grade at a public school, but after that time she and the other Jewish students in her apartment                                   
complex could not go there anymore, so they began attending a Jewish school. It was there that                                 
she learned about Judaism for the first time.   9
In 1938, Gertrude’s father was taken to Dachau, and the rest of her family obtained visas                               
to Italy. Upon arriving, Gertrude was granted permission to attend a certain school which was                             
being run by a group of Italian nuns in her village. Her mother wanted her to be taught, so she                                       
approached the Mother Superior, who said that Gertrude’s soul was destined for purgatory. If                           
Gertrude were to stay, she explained, the nuns would have to be allowed to influence her,                               
including in religion. Her mother said that because the Jews have suffered so much already, that                               
it would be fine if Gertrude were taught by the nuns. During the time that Gertrude was at the                                     
convent, she learned about Catholicism. “They flattered me...they made me read one day a                           
prophecy...that the war would end on April 20, 1943, the day of Hitler’s birthday…” so she went                                 
home to her mother and said that if the war ended on that day, then she would know that the                                       
Catholic religion was the real religion and she would therefore convert. While at this Catholic                             
school, some peers would taunt her and ask her how many Christs there were, and one day she                                   
decided to answer “300,” prompting the priest to have a meeting with her and her mother. It was                                   
at that point that she realized she really had to monitor what she said in front of people. Gertrude                                     
recalled, “I felt torn between being Jewish and being possibly Catholic.”    10
9
 Gertrude Goetz Oral History Interview, May 19, 1984, by Oral History Interviews of the University of 
California, Los Angeles Holocaust Testimonies Project. 
<​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn503599​>.  
10
  Gertrude Goetz Oral History Interview, May 19, 1984, by Oral History Interviews of the University of 
California, Los Angeles Holocaust Testimonies Project. 
<​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn503599​>.  
 
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Since Gertrude’s family was not religious, the only time she was ever exposed to Judaism                             
was when she spent time with the Jewish family in her apartment complex. Moreover, the                             
education Gertrude received at her school most likely filled in the gaps of her lack of Jewish                                 
education at home. It makes sense then that the religious instruction Gertrude received at the                             
convent would contrast with what she already knew about Judaism. Even more confusing for                           
Gertrude must have been that she was never formally converted, only instructed in Catholicism,                           
thus causing her to feel torn between Catholicism and Judaism. Though she was exposed to both                               
religions, she could not have felt torn if she did not possess at least some inclination towards                                 
Judaism.  
For converts born to observant parents, the transition from Judaism to Christianity was                         
even more complex. Susan Lederman was born in 1937 in Bratislava, Slovakia and was the only                               
child. Her father owned a printing shop and her mother worked part time as his bookkeeper, but                                 
both parents had a farming background. Her parents also had a solid Jewish education. Susan                             
explained that her family was “modern Orthodox” and observed Jewish dietary laws and the                           
sabbath. The entire Jewish community in which they lived was very well integrated into society.                             
Her town was about 100,000, and Jews and non­Jews had good relationships with one another.                             
Susan’s father was very well connected with the non­Jewish community which helped them later                           
on. He was also involved with a number of secular organizations as well as Bnai B’rith. In 1943,                                   
Susan’s parents had her converted so that she would be able to start school. She had to go into                                     
hiding in 1944 and there was a partisan uprising in the mountains that year. At the same time,                                   
 
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Nazis invaded Slovakia and life became even more dangerous. Susan explained that there were                           
some deportations before 1944, but not many.    11
In the spring of 1943, Susan was at her grandparents’ house when her family’s seamstress                             
picked her up and gave her a dress to wear. She immediately took her to a Lutheran church                                   
where she remembered kneeling on a red cushion with a priest nearby. It was at this time that she                                     
was converted to Lutheranism, which was the minority religion since Czechoslovakia was a                         
Catholic country. The conversion enabled Susan to start school, but it was also her parent’s way                               
of protecting her. Susan said that the conversion “did not change any deep held feelings...I still                               
knew I was Jewish.” One of Susan’s earliest memories was the firing of her German Christian                               
nurse due to legislation forbidding Gentiles to work for Jews. She also remembers tense train                             
rides to visit grandparents, and that two other Jewish families moved in with her family.   12
Susan’s parents had attempted to leave Slovakia for the United States before the war in                             
1938; however, their visas came too late. Susan said, “There was a great deal of discussion on                                 
how to protect me.” She spent the summer of 1944 in a small village that was predominantly                                 
Catholic with another family for protection. The only Lutheran church was a couple of villages                             
away. She ran into two of her Jewish friends from her old school at this church. Wondering why                                   
they were there, she made a scene, causing her host family to worry that the incident would                                 
expose them for hiding a Jew. One day, some German soldiers approached her while Susan was                               
outside and asked directions. Since Susan was the only one in the village who knew German, it                                 
made her look suspicious. For her own protection she had to leave the village.   13
11
 Susan Lederman Oral History Interview, 1984, by Sidney Langer. 
<​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn503102​>.  
12
  Susan Lederman  
13
  Susan Lederman  
 
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A group of Catholic nuns were taking in Jewish children nearby. Instead of going to this                               
convent, she went to live with the Gentile family in the small village until they sent her back to                                     
her mother. In 1944, Susan returned to her parents from the village, and at the time her parents                                   
were hiding in a bombed out factory in Bratislava. Susan describes the situation as “luck”                             
because at the very same time that she returned home, the Catholic nuns who were hiding the                                 
Jewish children were deported to concentration camps, and so were all of the children. Susan                             
stayed with an Hungarian Christian family in Bratislava who were “willing to risk it” since                             
Susan had blonde hair and blue eyes, and they had an extra room in their house because they had                                     
no children. Susan pretended to be their niece visiting and lived under an assumed name. They                               
woke her up several times in the middle of the night to drill her on who she was and what she                                         
was doing there. She also had to pretend that she didn’t understand German. At this point in her                                   
life, Susan understood that she was in danger because she was Jewish.  14
After liberation in April 1944 by the Russians, her parents were able to visit her once a                                 
month at the home of the Christian family. Susan’s father had an exemption because of his work,                                 
and had good contacts in the Jewish community, giving her family some protection. During the                             
time that followed, Susan recalled that there was a shortage of food, and her parents were finding                                 
out who in the family survived. Most of her family members died, and it was a very sad time.                                     
After the war, her family moved into an apartment and did not return to their house. Susan came                                   
to the United States in 1948 with her parents, since both of them had family in New York.   15
Following the war, her parents no longer kept a kosher home, and Susan did not have                               
anymore Jewish education. Her father had always been an observant Jew, but now he was only                               
14
  Susan Lederman  Oral History Interview, 1984, by Sidney Langer. 
<​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn503102​>.  
15
  Susan Lederman  
 
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an observant Jew “in spirit.” Her mother “never believed again.” Susan’s view of the Jewish                             
question as a child was that it was “part of [her] conscience and being.” Specifically, she                               
remembers being upset with friends who didn’t have the patience to read the Diary of Anne                               
Frank. The family that was already in the U.S. did not want to know anything about what had                                   
happened to Susan’s family or to the rest of the Jews of Europe. They refused to talk about it,                                     
and Susan was upset. She and her parents were the only ones in the family willing to                                 
acknowledge that the Holocaust actually happened. Susan’s family was helped by HIAS, like                         
many other Jewish families who emigrated. Susan mentioned the concept of a “perception gap”                           
that existed among survivors.“More could have been done” by the United States and other                           
countries to prevent the Holocaust, she said. Despite the failings of America, “I am an inherent                               
optimist.” [The United States] “is still an accepting society.”    16
Though Susan was converted secretly at a young age, she nevertheless understood that                         
she was Jewish and that what was happening to her was a result of being Jewish. Her testimony                                   
raises questions of the great lengths educated, observant families were willing to go in order to                               
protect their children, up to and including conversion, knowing that their children could grow up                             
and walk away completely from the Jewish faith. In Susan’s case, she did not become indifferent                               
to Judaism, but rather, felt a duty to bear witness to what she and millions of others experienced                                   
in the Holocaust.  
Similarly, Krystyna Budnicka was also born in 1932 to an observant Jewish family of ten                             
in Warsaw, Poland. After being relocated into the Warsaw ghetto, surviving the Great                         
Deportation, and also witnessing the Warsaw ghetto uprising, ​Krystyna was able to finish high                           
16
  Susan Lederman Oral History Interview, 1984, by Sidney Langer. 
<​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn503102​>.  
 
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school at a Christian orphanage where she remembers being treated very kindly. As an adult,                             
Krystyna acknowledged her Jewish roots, but adopted Christianity as her religion and devoted                         
her life to working with special needs children. It is unknown what caused Krystyna to embrace                               
Christianity; however, it is interesting to note the possible link between being raised in an                             
observant household and her acknowledgment of her Jewish heritage, while still embracing                       
Christianity.   17
Unlike Susan Lederman and Krystyna Budnicka, Eva Koepsell was born to Jewish                       
parents who both converted to Catholicism when she was a child. Born in Budapest, Hungary in                               
1944, Eva was raised Roman Catholic. Her mother was a social worker, but immediately lost her                               
job because she was Jewish. Her father was a physicist and was able to keep his job until 1943.                                     
By the time Eva was eight months old, her family was living in different cellars in the ghetto. In                                     
a matter of months, Eva’s father was deported to a labor camp. At one point, Eva’s mother                                 
decided that the only way to survive would be to take off the yellow star and leave the ghetto.                                     
There was a sense that even their conversion papers would not do much for them. Eva recalled                                 
that some of her parents’ friends also converted, but were still deported. In order to get Eva to a                                     
safe place, her mother took her to a Red Cross facility in Hungary and left her there for a few                                       
months. Eva described life in Budapest after the war: “chaos, starvation, no medical supplies.”                           
Everyone was frantically searching for lost relatives. She explained how Hungarian Jews were                         
very assimilated, but lost so much in a very short amount of time.   18
17
 ​Krystyna Budnicka Oral History Interview, July 1994, by Nathan Beyrak. 
<​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn507764​>.  
18
 Eva Koepsell Oral History Interview, February 19, 1990 by Toby Ticktin Back. 
<​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn511795​>.  
 
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In 1947, her family immigrated to the United States, and Eva recalls that there was “lots                               
of eating.” Eva later attended a Catholic school since she was raised Roman Catholic. Eva                             
remembered that in school she learned catechisms and lessons about Jesus being Jewish, and she                             
would tell her parents what she learned. According to Eva, they would always “talk up being                               
Jewish”­­ that being Jewish “was a wonderful thing.” Eva asked her parents why her other                             
relatives in New York were Jewish and they were not, at which point they explained to her that                                   
they were also Jewish, much to Eva’s surprise. Her parents told her it was a good thing that she                                     
was a Catholic­­that it would protect her from the next Holocaust. When Eva had a child of her                                   
own and named him David, her mother was horrified and told her the name sounded “too                               
Jewish,” and that “come the next Holocaust, he would be picked out.” Eva’s mother eventually                             
returned to Hungary when she was 80 years old, and moved into an Orthodox Jewish home for                                 
the elderly where it was necessary for her to prove her Jewish heritage. Eva, on the other hand,                                   
remarked, “Sometimes I feel guilty [for being alive].”   19
Since Eva’s parents converted to Catholicism before she was born, Eva was raised                         
Roman Catholic, and was not aware that she was Jewish until her family moved to the United                                 
States and started school. Interestingly, it was her parents that encouraged her to embrace her                             
Jewish roots, though at the time she was receiving a Catholic education. In this case, Eva’s                               
parents experienced the most attachment to Judaism after their conversion; whereas, Eva did not                           
grasp the full meaning of the situation until much later in life. Eva’s situation is unique in that                                   
she was not formally converted to Catholicism. It was her parents who had the most impact on                                 
19
  Eva Koepsell Oral History Interview, February 19, 1990 by Toby Ticktin Back. 
<​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn511795​>.  
 
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how she viewed Judaism, and consequently, she then felt an obligation to Judaism despite not                             
being raised Jewish.  
Conclusion 
The commonality among the aforementioned testimonies is that the converts all received                       
some sort of religious instruction early in life. Coupled with the knowledge of their Jewish                             
heritage, it caused them to question their religious identity later in life. Though these conversions                             
were performed for protection, the testimonies indicate the extent to which Jewish education (or                           
lack thereof) affected the converts’ ability to completely abandon Judaism and embrace                       
Christianity. In each case, regardless of their religious upbringing or age of conversion, the                           
converts felt an obligation to Judaism in some capacity, whether through acknowledging their                         
roots, raising Jewish children, or simply feeling the need to educate people on their experiences.                             
Because these conversions were for protection, the question of sincerity does pose a problem. In                             
fact, in this case, it is irrelevant. What can be said, however, is that converting for protection did                                   
not necessarily mean that the convert abandoned their Jewish faith. Even if one was raised in a                                 
secular environment, in some cases they still possessed an inclination towards Judaism,                       
especially if the conversion happened at a young age, or if they discovered their Jewish roots                               
later in life.  
II. Intermarriage and Conversion  
Just as protection was a strong motive for conversion in 1930s Europe, intermarriage                         
laws also contributed to the rise in conversion in places where this legislation was in effect. Even                                 
in countries such as Germany, whose governments recognized civil marriage­­meaning Jews and                       
Christians were allowed to get married­­there were still a number of conversions which took                           
 
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place after the unification of Germany and the formal emancipation of the Jews in 1871. In                               
Germany from 1881­1885, the average number of Jews who converted to Protestant Christianity                         
was 198, and then jumped to 459 between the years of 1896­1900. After the turn of the century,                                   
conversion began to decline­­averaging 359 conversions per year between 1911­1915, and then                       
lowering to 142 conversions per year between 1926­1930. Between the years of 1901­1905, the                           
intermarriage rate was 8.99%, and climbed steadily for the next thirty years. From 1926­30, the                             
intermarriage rate was 21.52%. During the Weimar Republic period in Germany, it was Jewish                           
men who were more likely to intermarry than Jewish women. This trend can be seen in the                                   20
following testimony of Juergen Simonson, who was born in Germany to one Jewish and one                             
Aryan parent.  
Juergen Simonson was born in East Germany in 1924, to an Aryan mother and Jewish                             
father whose own parents had converted to Christianity; thus, Juergen was raised Christian, and                           
his family had “very few links to the Jewish community.” After the Nuremberg Laws, Juergen’s                             
father was dismissed from his position as a judge, and the family moved to Dresden in 1938 to                                   
escape antisemitism. Even after the enactment of the Nuremberg Laws in September 1935, the                           
Berlin missionary society still received applications for baptism. In fact, from January to April                           
1936, there were 46 converts. Throughout the second half the 1930s in Germany, Jews continued                             
to convert, despite the mounting complaints from antisemites. Even matters such as Christians of                           
Jewish descent being buried in Christian cemeteries incited conflict and caused local antisemites                         
to complain. During this time, however, there was nothing major to be gained by Jews who                               
20
Lowenstein, Steven M. "Jewish Intermarriage and Conversion in Germany and Austria." ​Modern Judaism 
25.1 (2005): 23­61. Web.​ (pp. 25, 30, 42).  
 
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wished to convert, since Nazi legislation targeted race, not religion. Still, there continued to be                             
those who desired baptism.    21
In March 1939, Juergen’s father was able to flee to England after obtaining a travel visa                               
from an Aryan sponsor, leaving Juergen and his mother in Germany. During this time, Juergen                             
did not have to wear the yellow star since he was a Mischlinge, and was relatively protected                                 
because his mother was Aryan. After graduating from high school in 1942, Juergen worked on                             
repairing railroads that had been bombed from April 1944 to September 1944. Escaping forced                           
labor, Juergen was able to get a job with the U.S. Army, and later contacted Bishop George Bell                                   
in England to inquire on the whereabouts of his father. Recalling his meeting with Bell decades                               
later, Juergen said, “He had the most translucent blue eyes that I’ve ever seen...you really saw                               
through the eyes into his soul.” In 1945, Juergen visited his father in England who had become                                 
an Anglican priest in the interim. In Dresden, he had attended an Anglican church.    22
Juergen eventually followed in his father’s footsteps and attended a theological seminary                       
in England and became ordained in 1952. His initial pull to ministry came when he was in a                                   
German POW camp and was asked to give a sermon. The only scripture he knew well enough to                                   
preach on was John 6:68: “​Simon Peter ​answered him, ‘Lord, to whom shall we go? You have                                 
the words of eternal life.’” At the start of his ministry, Juergen was neither involved nor                               
interested in becoming involved with the ecumenical movement or Jewish­Christian relations,                     
which were still on shaky terms. Later in his ministry, however, he became involved with the                               
Council for Christians and Jews. When asked about the links between anti­Judaism and                         
21
 Clark, Christopher M. ​The Politics of Conversion: Missionary Protestantism and the Jews in Prussia, 
1728­1941. Oxford: Clarendon, 1995. Print. (pp. 297­ 298).  
22
 Juergen Simonson Oral History Interview, March 30, 1998 by Peggy Obrecht. 
<​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn506688​>.  
 
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anti­semitism, Juergen believed that they have “very close ties with one another.” Juergen feels                           
that the Gospels in the New Testament do present a problem for Jewish­Christian relations, and                             
expressed doubts about Christianity ever being totally rid of anti­Judaism.   23
Though Juergen was raised Christian and did not go through a conversion process, he still                             
experienced life as a Mischlinge under Nazi legislation. The Nazi legislation that was passed on                             
April 7, 1933 excluded anyone from the civil service who was “racially Jewish.” Therefore, even                             
conversion to Christianity did not help, because it was only changing one’s religion, not their                             
ethnicity. In Juergen’s case, he was raised as a Christian but still fell under Mischlinge status.                               
Additionally, this new law helped spark the birth of the Confessing Church of Germany, which                             
Juergen commented, was a “great encouragement” to his family and many others. Surprisingly,                         
there was not a large number of pastors of Jewish origin who were affected by the enactment of                                   
this law.    24
In 1933, there were approximately 18,000 German Protestant pastors, but only 29 were of                           
Jewish origin, and of that number, 11 were exempt since they fought for Germany in WWI.                                 25
Juergen and his father were not apart of the Confessing Church since their congregations were in                               
England; however, if Juergen and his father had decided to stay in Germany, they would have                               
fallen under this category of pastors of Jewish origin. Juergen was convinced that if his father                               
had not received a sponsorship from his diplomat friend, that he would have had to wear the                                 
yellow star and would have eventually been deported.     26
23
 Juergen Simonson  
24
 Clark, Christopher M. ​The Politics of Conversion: Missionary Protestantism and the Jews in Prussia, 
1728­1941. Oxford: Clarendon, 1995. Print. (p. 289).  
25
 Clark, p. 290 
26
  Juergen Simonson Oral History Interview, March 30, 1998 by Peggy Obrecht. 
<​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn506688​>.  
 
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In Juergen’s family’s case, they were able to escape Germany. If they had stayed,                           
however, they would have been subject to the chaos that followed. Since Juergen was a                             
Mischlinge, he was relatively protected because of his mother's Aryan status. Though his family                           
did not belong to a Reich association, many non­Aryan Christian families like Juergen’s were                           
members of Reich associations. In 1936, these individuals numbered about 60,000. In a census                           
taken May 17, 1939, there were 23,529 Christians of non­Aryan descent (“racial Jews”) in                           
Germany, and of that number, 13,126 belonged to Protestant churches. People inside and                           27
outside the Church voiced their complaints during the 1930s about the fact that Jews were being                               
baptised by German Protestant clergyman, citing that it was a “blow in the face” for anyone who                                 
belonged to the National Socialist Party. These sentiments were still held even when                         28
conversion was on an individual basis, mostly because German Protestants believed that “the                         
instruction and conversion of Jews was irreconcilable with the new racial and political                         
dispensation in Germany.”   29
In one instance in July 1936 in Fehrbellin, a Jewish woman who had converted to                             
Christianity caused a local commotion when her children, who were of mixed blood (her                           
husband was Aryan) were allowed to sing in the Fehrbellin church choir. Dr. Harder, the pastor                               
of the church, announced the woman’s conversion one Sunday during the service, which caused                           
people to be critical of Harder’s politics. The issue of Christians of non­Aryan descent                             30
culminated in the gathering of the four German missionary societies of Berlin, Basel, Leipzig,                           
27
 Clark, p. 291 
28
 Clark, p. 292 
29
 Clark, Christopher M. ​The Politics of Conversion: Missionary Protestantism and the Jews in Prussia, 
1728­1941. Oxford: Clarendon, 1995. Print. ( p. 292). 
30
 Clark, p. 292 
 
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and Cologne, in which the topic of forming separate congregations for racially Jewish Christians                           
and non­Aryan Christians was addressed and opposed.   The statement read: 31
“​Accepting our relationship with the Jewish people as part of the History of Salvation                             
entails the full acknowledgement of the Jewish Christian within the space of the church.                           
According to scripture, every baptized [individual], including the Jewish Christian, is a                       
fully entitled member of the Church as [he is] of the body of Christ. There is no biblical                                   
foundation for the formation of separate Jewish ­Christian congregations.”    32
 
The Leipzig missionary society disbanded in July 1935 after their financial support was                         
cut off, which left only the Berlin society. After the National Socialist Party came to power,                               
there was a significant increase of Jewish converts to Christianity within the Berlin missionary                           
society, from 5 converts in 1932, to 29 in 1933, 92 in 1934, and 50 in 1935. In Austria at the                                           33
same time, legislation was enacted which forbade the marriage of Jews to Christians without one                             
spouse first converting. An example of this occurred in Ernst Weihs’s family. Born in Vienna                               34
in 1908 to fully Jewish parents, Ernst’s father returned from WWI and requested a divorce from                               
his wife to be with a Lutheran woman he had met during the war. Ernst’s father eventually                                 
married this woman and converted to Lutheranism. His mother was now left to raise him by                               
herself, and when this became too much, she sent him to live with his father and his new wife.                                     
Living under their roof, Ernst was told he must be baptized, at which point he mentioned, “I                                 
didn’t have anything to do with being Jewish from that age on...I went to church.” After working                                 
as a gardener for some years, he moved back to Vienna in 1928 where he found another job as a                                       
gardener until 1938. Here, no one knew of his Jewish background. After a neighbor exposed his                               
identity, Ernst was evicted from his apartment and forced to wear the star. His mother wanted                               
31
 Clark, p. 293  
32
 Clark, p. 293  
33
 Clark, pp. 294, 297 
34
 ​Lowenstein, Steven M. "Jewish Intermarriage and Conversion in Germany and Austria." ​Modern Judaism 
25.1 (2005): 23­61. Web. ​(p. 24).  
 
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him to flee to Palestine, so Ernst registered for a Swedish mission which interviewed Jews to                               
send them to Sweden. A Jewish agency then helped him train and prepare to move to Palestine.                                 
   35
In 1942, Ernst was deported to a ghetto in Czechoslovakia, then put on a train to                               
Theresienstadt, and eventually transported to Auschwitz. Initially, he was able to stay with                         
people he knew from Vienna, but soon they were split up. In Auschwitz, Ernst recalled that the                                 
Germans put some Polish Jews in charge of the barracks where he was staying, and that the                                 
“Poles were worse than Germans.” He remembers marveling at the big, strong men who entered                             
the gates of Auschwitz who “died like flies.” In this environment, “as soon as you got sick, you                                   
were done.” One of Ernst’s jobs was to take a two­wheeler and pile the bodies up, drive them out                                     
into the field, dig a large ditch, and bury them all in a mass grave. In spring 1945, they all had to                                           
evacuate and were marched towards Dachau, which was liberated by the United States soon                           
after.   36
Ernst was then able to return to Vienna to his step­mother’s apartment. When asked how                             
it felt to be a Jew after the war, Ernst said that, “Nobody paid any attention anymore­­we figured                                   
we were Lutheran.” Ernst was able to immigrate to the United States after the war and move to                                   
New York, where his mother and sister were waiting for him. Ernst was not forced to convert                                   37
for protection, but rather because his step­mother and father wanted him to convert. Though                           
Ernst did not talk about his religious practices later in life, he made it clear that he did not                                     
35
 Ernst Weihs Oral History Interview, May 30, 1989 by Linda Kuzmack. 
<​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn504732​.  
36
 Ernst Weihs 
37  ​
Ernst Weihs  
 
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consider himself Jewish after the war. No comment was made about his religion at the time of                                 
the interview.    38
Conclusion 
It can be noted in these testimonies that in cases of intermarriage, conversion followed,                           
specifically in countries with laws on conversion. In Central Europe, one was required to                           
document any change in religious status; thus, if there was no official documentation regarding a                             
conversion, someone who was born Jewish remained Jewish in the eyes of the state. This is the                                 
reason there is documentary proof of Jews who either converted to Christianity or who left the                               
Jewish faith altogether. In Germany, it became legal for Jews and Christians to marry by the end                                 
of the nineteenth century; however, in Austria, conversion was necessary for Jews and Christians                           
to marry (either spouse). Thus, in this period, intermarriage and conversion in Austria are                           
related.    39
Similar to studying conversion for protection, measuring sincerity is again nearly                     
impossible. Individual cases make it easier to ascertain the motives and effects of conversion on                             
a specific person; however, when there are cases of a Jew marrying a Christian and converting to                                 
Christianity, motives for the conversion are skewed by legislation. This is true about the                           
relationship of intermarriage and conversion in Austria, but not in Germany. It must also be                             
noted that in places like Germany where intermarriage was legal, and conversion still followed, it                             
is more likely that the conversion was sincere, or at least done for unity in the household, adding                                   
another complication to measuring sincerity during this period in Jewish history.  
38
 Ernst Weihs 
39
 ​Lowenstein, Steven M. "Jewish Intermarriage and Conversion in Germany and Austria." ​Modern Judaism 
25.1 (2005): 23­61. Web. ​(p. 24).  
 
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III. Religious Indifference 
In contrast to those who converted, but still felt obligated to Judaism in some way, there                               
is another group of converts who felt no attachment to either Judaism or Christianity. Chaim                             
Kaplan recounted the situation of converts in the Warsaw ghetto in his diary. In some cases,                               
bribery occurred to issue false documents, “stating that So­and so is an Aryan from a long line of                                   
Aryans” and that “these certificates are assumed to genuine, and no one disputes their veracity.”                             
Kaplan also notes that the priests issuing these false documents “made fortunes” and that those                               40
trying to pass as Aryans “enjoyed all the rights to which the Aryan race entitles its offspring.”                                   41
Moreover, “they remained outside the ghetto area legally and were treated as genuine Aryans.”                             42
Kaplan also mentions another group in the ghetto, Jews whose parents had converted and who                             
were brought up as Christians. These Jews, he writes, “don’t have the slightest feeling for                               43
Judaism, either religiously or racially.” Kaplan recounts in his entry for March 7, 1941, that the                                 44
Nazis brought a group of these first generation converts to Adam Czerniakow to decide their                             
fate, while “huge crowds accompanied them to the gates of the Judenrat.” Showing his disdain                               45
for these apostates, Kaplan writes, “I don’t know what their end will be, but one thing I know for                                     
a certainty. Their enmity to Israel will never cease.” Kaplan’s beliefs about the converts cannot                               46
be applied to every convert in the Warsaw ghetto; however, something can be said about the fact                                 
that this was his first impression of the apostates he encountered. Though Kaplan’s account is a                               
40
 Kaplan, Chaim Aron, and Abraham Isaac Katsh. ​Scroll of Agony; the Warsaw Diary of Chaim A. Kaplan. 
New York: Macmillan, 1965. Print. ( p. 250, March 7, 1941 entry).  
41
 Kaplan, p. 250 
42
 Kaplan, p. 250 
43
 Kaplan, p. 250 
44
 Kaplan, p. 250 
45
 Kaplan, p. 250 
46
  Kaplan, Chaim Aron, and Abraham Isaac Katsh. ​Scroll of Agony; the Warsaw Diary of Chaim A. Kaplan. 
New York: Macmillan, 1965. Print. ( p. 250, March 7, 1941 entry). 
 
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general one, it nevertheless provides a look into the lives of a religious minority in the Warsaw                                 
ghetto.  
Though Paul Strassman was not deported to the Warsaw ghetto, his testimony falls under                           
the category of converts who, at the time of the interview, felt no attachment to their Jewish                                 
heritage “either religiously or racially,” as Kaplan said. Paul was born in 1929 in Trencin,                               47
Czechoslovakia, and his father had a very high up position in the Austro­Hungarian army. Paul                             
attended a Jewish elementary school and had a normal childhood during that time. In 1936, he                               
joined a youth organization that had very strong views about its role in Israel. He became                               
involved because his friends were involved. In the town of Trencin, there were about 14,000                             
people at the time that he was growing up, and of that number, only about 1,400 Jews. The other                                     
youth organization was a very religious one, but Paul expressed that he was never interested in                               
religion, though his mother was very observant and his grandfather used to take him to                             
synagogue. Despite being a good scholar in regard to the Jewish texts, Paul and his father were                                 
very liberal in their views of Judaism, which is why he wanted to stay away from the religious                                   
organizations.   48
In 1938, Paul’s father felt that the political situation was getting worse, and they made a                                 
decision to leave the country. Paul’s mother kept all the money that they were saving in a metal                                   
box, but the week before they were all going to leave, she found that the box had fallen behind                                     
the radiator and all the money had been charred and was no longer usable. Disheartened and                               
disillusioned though he was, Paul’s father never uttered a word about it. After this incident the                               
family decided to stay where they were, citing the fact that there was not enough money and                                 
47
 Kaplan, p. 250 
48
 Paul Strassman Oral History Interview, July 11, 1990, by Linda Kuzmack. 
<​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn504717​>.  
 
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there were too many family members to worry about. Legislation in Czechoslovakia started in                           
1940, but it did not affect Paul’s family right away. His father was friends with two priests in the                                     
community, and one of them promised his father that he would do everything in his power to                                 
protect him because of his service to the community. Paul’s father received a presidential writ                             
which protected him from deportation, but it did not extend to the rest of his family.   49
By 1940 radios were taken away, and by 1941 telephones were also forbidden. It was at                               
this time that Jews were required to wear the star. Paul recalled traveling in groups with other                                 
Jews for protection, and that books became “very precious.” His Jewish school dissolved in                           
1941, but he was able to have “very distinguished” private tutors. Deportations began in 1942,                             
and his father was advised that he could be further protected if he was baptized. Baptism meant                                 
that he could be re­classified, and “it would look better.” When Paul’s father made the decision                               
to baptize the family in 1942, Paul had just had his bar mitzvah in January 1942. They could not                                     
get baptized in the Catholic church, “because it would require the Archbishop dispensation”                         
which would have taken up to two years. In the Evangelical Protestant church, however, it would                               
only take eight months. Paul would simply have to go to school and learn catechisms before his                                 
baptism.   50
If one was well connected, Paul explained, it was possible to find out the night before                               
whether or not your name was on the deportation list. In 1942 when the deportation started,                               
people just thought they were going from a bad situation to a worse situation­­­like a work camp.                                 
People would ask the Judenrat what to take, such as pots and pans. There was no awareness of                                   
the conditions of where they were going after deportation, and certainly not an awareness of the                               
49
 Paul Strassman Oral History Interview, July 11, 1990, by Linda Kuzmack. 
<​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn504717​>. 
50
 Paul Strassman  
 
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gas chambers. Additionally, the idea of Jewish resistance was a “Utopian” idea, and Paul                           
considered it only for the extreme. Paul’s father used to take him and his siblings on long                                 
two­day hikes out in the mountains as a way for them to escape the oppressiveness. The                               
anti­semitism, Paul explained, was concentrated in the urban environments, and in the smaller                         
villages with less people, there was no antisemitism.   51
In terms of his religious convictions after his conversion, Paul said: “It turns out that the                               
Lutheran religion appeals to me more than the Jewish religion, because the Jewish religion is so                               
obscure and...so full of archaic rituals.” The Lutheran church in Slovakia in the 1940s was a                               
very modern forward thinking church. Paul explained that when “the Lutherans are a minority                           
they are very nice people.” By 1942, out of 1,400 Jews in Trencin, there were only about 150                                   
Jews left. Relationships with the remaining Jews in their town did not change at all once they                                 
were baptized. They were all very close because there was so few of them.   52
Starting in 1942 with the deportations, and after his baptism, Paul’s daily life was                           
relatively consistent: He would get up, go to his tutoring, to the gym, and to church on Sunday.                                   
His sister found a job, his mother was at home, his grandparents on his father’s side were                                 
protected. Except for the long hikes they would take on weekends, they were completely                           
invisible. In 1944, Paul’s family and the remaining Jews of Trencin, had to form a plan of action                                   
regarding whether or not they needed to go into hiding or disperse the family.   53
In August 1944, Paul’s father was taken hostage along with eleven others by the Gestapo                             
for being involved with smuggling food. After his father’s arrest, Paul knew the Gestapo was                             
51
 Paul Strassman Oral History Interview, July 11, 1990, by Linda Kuzmack. 
<​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn504717​>. 
52
 Paul Strassman  
53
 Paul Strassman 
 
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looking for him, but he was advised by his father the day before that he should sleep at a friend’s                                       
house in order to disperse the family. Paul eventually found out that his father was subsequently                               
tortured and died in Sachsenhausen. Leaving Trencin, Paul headed for the mountains and swam                           
until he was out of the city. Finding a partisan group, he tried to join them; however, they turned                                     
him away and gave him a hand grenade for protection. Paul then ran into another man who was                                   
also looking to join the partisan group, so they set off to find them together. After finding the                                   
partisans again, they told him that his job was not to fight the Germans, but to sabotage the                                   
railroads. They also told him never to spend more than one night in the same town. Paul was                                   
honorably discharged in April 1945 and then went to Paris and London.   54
After obtaining a visa, Paul was able to immigrate to the United States in October 1948.                               
His first stop was the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society to see if they could help him attend                                 
college. The counselor finally said that he should go to Cooper Union in New York, and                               
everything would be paid for. Paul took the SAT, however his English was terrible at the time.                                 
After being accepted to Cooper when someone backed out, Paul met his future wife there and                               
also received a scholarship to MIT. He refused to take the scholarship, because “the Strassman’s                             
don’t take charity from anyone,” and said that he would rather work his way through school.                               
Paul retired in 1985 after working with computers for thirty years.  55
Paul Strassman’s testimony is unique in that he was educated in both Judaism and                           
Christianity at an age where he could understand the differences between the two religions.                           
Being baptized after his bar mitzvah, he would have been educated enough in Jewish tradition to                               
make a decision about his beliefs. Additionally, he had private tutors and was schooled in the                               
54
 Paul Strassman Oral History Interview, July 11, 1990, by Linda Kuzmack. 
<​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn504717​>. 
55
 Paul Strassman  
 
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Jewish texts (at least as much as a thirteen year old boy can be). Even prior to his conversion,                                     
however, Paul stayed away from religious youth organizations. He was likely torn between the                           
religious views of his mother and grandfather, and the liberal, more secular views of his father.                               
Although he went to synagogue before his conversion and to church after his conversion, going                             
to church was most likely an additional form of protection for him and his family. Paul’s feelings                                 
about Judaism being “an archaic religion” distance him from those that fall neatly into the                             
category of converts who felt an attachment to their Jewish heritage. Paul seems not only                             
unattached, but belligerent towards Judaism. While his high level of education is certainly                         
impressive, it may or may not have had anything to do with his views on religion as an adult.  
Born in the same city as Paul Strassman in 1938, Paul Kovac’s parents had him converted                               
to Roman Catholicism shortly after he was born. His father held an “indispensable” position at a                               
local agricultural college, which meant the entire family was exempt from wearing the have to                             
wear the star. Paul was not brought up in a religious way, because his family was not observant                                   
or religious. After the war, however, he attended religious classes with other children at a Roman                               
Catholic school. In late August 1944 there was a national uprising in Slovakia, and Paul’s father                               
was notified that he should leave the school and the city. In response, his father stole a horse and                                     
a cart and the family escaped to a friend’s house to hide. This farmer had other friends and they                                     
ended up going to those people, who lived in a small village. They stayed in hiding until 1945, at                                     
which point they moved to Bratislava, Czechoslovakia.   56
Even after the war, Paul’s family never belonged to any sort of congregation, because                           
they did not want to be conspicuous. In addition, he did not “seem to recall anybody of the                                   
56
 Paul Kovac Oral History Interview, March 26, 1990, by Linda Kuzmack. 
<​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn504611​>.  
 
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family [ever] going to a synagogue.” Paul did not experience anti­semitism until he was out of                               
school. “ I didn’t advertise for myself as being Jewish...but everybody finds out about you...they                             
let you know that you are different.” Paul got married in 1962, but he pointed out without                                 
prompting that it was a civil ceremony, and not a religious one. He also added that he and his                                     
wife brought up their son in a non­religious way. “We have never emphasized religion.” Since                             
Paul’s family was not religious, it makes sense that Paul did not want to raise his son in a                                     
religious way either; however, the anti­semitism he experienced later in life could have been a                             
factor which solidified his disinterest in religion.    57
Like Paul Kovac, Elizabeth Goldsmith’s family was Jewish, but not observant. She was                         
born in Hungary in 1918, during a time in which most Jews were also getting baptized in order to                                     
keep their jobs or attend college. Her father was baptized in 1919. Since Elizabeth was raised                                 58
Presbyterian and attended a Presbyterian high school, she also attended church. When her                         
brothers began to make fun of her, she became self­conscious, and soon “grew out of religious                               
things.” Her family celebrated Christmas, never went to synagogue, and for the most part, “lived                             
without religion.” On life before the war, Elizabeth said: “We lived a very comfortable life. We                               
went to the theater, we entertained, [and] we worked a lot.” When Hitler invaded Hungary,                             
however, Elizabeth’s family was regarded as Jews under the law. The Jews of Hungary were                             
taken aback when what was happening in Germany began to happen to them as well, especially                               
since they regarded themselves as being more Hungarian than Jewish. In Hungary, if one had                             
close ties with Christians, whether through marriage or otherwise, it generally improved one’s                         
57
 Paul Kovac Oral History Interview, March 26, 1990, by Linda Kuzmack. 
<​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn504611​>.  
58
 ​Nagy, Péter Tibor. "The Sociology of Survival: The Presence of the Budapest Jewish Population Groups 
of 1941 in the 1945 Budapest Population." ​The Holocaust in Hungary: Seventy Years Later. Ed. Randolph 
L. Braham and András Kovács. Budapest; New York: Central European UP, 2016. 183­94. Web.  (p. 190) 
 
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chance of surviving. In fact, research shows that “having a Christian spouse increased an                           
individual’s chances of survival by a factor of 1.9. In the case of Elizabeth’s family, her father’s                                 
conversion did little to protect them, as Elizabeth and her sister were deported to a labor camp in                                   
1944.    59
Conclusion 
Each person in this section was raised in a different religious context; however, based on                             
the information provided in their interviews, they all ended up becoming indifferent to religion,                           
or at least never formed an attachment to Judaism. Paul Strassman was the only one who had any                                   
sort of Jewish education as a child. In fact, he regarded himself as somewhat of a scholar in                                   
Jewish religious texts. His conversion happened when he was thirteen years old, just after his bar                               
mitzvah. Up until this point in his life, Paul had already decided that he was not interested in                                   
Judaism, and avoided joining any religious youth organizations. As an adult, Paul felt more of an                               
attachment to Lutheranism and regarded Judaism as an “archaic” religion. Similarly, Paul                         60
Kovac, whose family was not observant and never went to synagogue, attended Roman Catholic                           
classes after the war, but ran from religion as an adult. Telling of his strong feelings on the                                   
subject, Paul made sure to touch upon the fact that his marriage was a civil ceremony, not                                 
religious, and that because of his childhood experiences, he wanted to make sure that his son was                                 
raised without religion. Though Paul did not get into the details of why he did feel attached to                                   
Judaism or Roman Catholicism, it is interesting to note that he offered this information without                             
being asked about the topic of religion. Elizabeth Goldsmith, whose family “lived without                         
59
 Elizabeth Goldsmith Oral History Interview, January 5, 1991. By The Australian Institute of Holocaust 
Studies, The Twelfth Hour Project.< ​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn43227​>.  
60
 Paul Strassman  Oral History Interview, July 11, 1990, by Linda Kuzmack. 
<​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn504717​>. 
 
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religion,” but was raised Presbyterian, “grew out of religious things.” It is not clear what                               61
happened in her life between the time of her father’s baptism, her Presbyterian high school                             
experience, and her brothers making fun of her for going to church that contributed to her                               
religious indifference; however, Elizabeth’s life is another example of converts with a religious                         
background who walked away from Judaism for one reason or another.  
When trying to ascertain sincerity in conversion of people who, at least at the time of the                                 
interview, were indifferent to their Jewish heritage, it must be taken into account that the                             
conversions were not their choice, especially if their parents converted prior to their birth. In this                               
way, measuring sincerity again becomes impossible. What can be studied, however, are the                         
factors which contributed to their religious indifference. Amount of Jewish education, age of                         
conversion, degree of religious observance, influence of family members, and intermarriage all                       
likely influenced the feelings of the convert toward religion, especially Judaism. There is one                           
component which has not been touched upon. If these same conversions had occurred in a                             
different time period, they would be slightly less complicated to study; however, they occurred                           
during the most traumatic time in Jewish history. Adding in this missing factor, sincere                           
conversion becomes increasingly more complicated to ascertain. Moreover, converts’ feelings                   
toward religion in general could have been shattered by the trauma of the Holocaust. Many                             
questioned their faith and even the very existence of God. This missing link, then, is the most                                 
important thing to consider when studying converts who became indifferent to religion.  
IV. Sincere Conversion 
61
 Elizabeth Goldsmith  
 
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The final category of conversions that must be addressed are those that, even if done for                               
protection, were sincere. What was previously difficult in ascertaining the sincerity of                       
conversions was not only the lack of personal information regarding their religious convictions,                         
but the fact that most converts adopted Christianity as their religion only in name, still feeling                               
more of a connection to Judaism. There is, however, more evidence to work with when there are                                 
quotes from converts that shed light on the process they went through during and after their                               
conversions. The following stories of conversion are easier to identify as sincere because of the                             
confirmation of their religious convictions through personal testimony. If not for this firsthand                         
information, it would be near impossible to indicate whether or not conversion was done for                             
other reasons. Even within these sincere conversions, it is still possible that initially, the                           
conversion was performed for protection. It is also not out of the question, as seen in the                                 
following testimonies, for converts to have a spiritual transformation after a conversion that was                           
only done for protection.  
Conversion laws, like intermarriage laws, varied by country. In Romania, the government 
banned Jewish conversion on March 18, 1941, citing that:  
 
“The ethnic being of our People must be preserved from dilution by Jewish blood. Until                             
now the Jews have been able to hide their ethnic origin by converting to our national                               
religions. In order to prevent such a crime against our national community, it is necessary                             
to modify Article 44 of the Law on Religions, forbidding Jews to convert to any other                               
religion.”    62
 
Other laws such as this one were passed in the late 1930s in Romania in order to slowly remove                                     
Jews from the public sphere, and single them out in every possible way. During the summer of                                 
62
 Popa, I. "Sanctuary from the Holocaust? Roman Catholic Conversion of Jews in Bucharest, Romania, 
1942." ​Holocaust and Genocide Studies 29.1 (2015): 39­56. Web. (p. 39).  
 
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1942, with rumored deportation hanging over their heads, many Jews converted to Catholicism.                         
In August, plans were announced by the Romanian authorities that all Jews were to be deported.                               
Between August 9, 1940 and May 20, 1942, 1,311 people converted to Christianity. In a Cabinet                               
meeting of the Romanian government in April. 1942, it was decided that Romanian Jews who                             
had converted to Christianity would “not be deported yet, for reasons of political                         
opportuneness.” The plans which had been negotiated in the summer of 1942 to deport the                               63
remaining Romanian Jews to Belzec had been derailed by October, because of the Romanian                           
government’s mistrust of Hitler.    64
The first mention of Jewish converts to Catholicism in Bucharest, Romania was in a                           
document from the Police Prefecture dating August 8, 1942, which read: “On 15 August 1942                             
[the Catholics] will start the catechization [i.e., teaching of Church dogma preparatory to                         
conversion] of circa 800 Jews, of whom 250 are Hungarian Jews.” The Roman Catholic                             65
Church in Bucharest shortened the time that converts were required to learn catechisms, from                           
100 days to 45 days, out of fear that the converts would be deported at any time. In February                                     
1943, the ban on conversion of Jews was lifted, and the Roman Catholic Church was granted                               
permission to convert Jews. Following the March 1941 decree that forbade conversion, the                         
consequences were different for those who converted to Catholicism versus those who converted                         
to Protestant Christianity. Protestant converts were generally deported after breaking the law, but                         
Catholic converts were used as political leverage between Romania and the other Allied nations.                           
  66
63
 Popa, pp. 39, 40, 43 
64
 Popa, I. "Sanctuary from the Holocaust? Roman Catholic Conversion of Jews in Bucharest, Romania, 
1942." ​Holocaust and Genocide Studies 29.1 (2015): 39­56. Web.(p. 45).  
65
  Popa, p. 47  
66
 Popa, pp. 49­ 50 
 
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  • 2. 1  Abstract  The purpose of this research is to analyze the motives and the effects of conversion on the                                  religious convictions of European Jews who converted to Christianity during the years leading                          up to the Final Solution. The overarching goal of the research is to identify sincerity when                                possible, and to examine how conversion shaped the religious identity of converts throughout                          their lives. The experience of second generation converts and Mischlinge were also included in                            this study to give a broader perspective. Oral testimonies from the online archives of the United                                States Holocaust Memorial Museum were used as primary sources to identify the effects of                            conversion on religious convictions before and after the Holocaust. In turn, this research will                            help identify whether these converts wanted to separate themselves from their Jewish roots, thus                            making a distinction between their former Jewish religion and their ethnicity. Additionally, this                          research will aid in discovering to what extent these recent converts suffered as Jews, even if                                they self­identified as Christians. The findings from these sources shed light on the larger                            theological issues arising in the context of Jewish­Christian relations, explore the importance of                          religious identity in the face of trauma, and tackle the question of sincere conversion during the                                Holocaust, when most only converted for protection.     Introduction    Since the birth of Christianity, converting the Jews has been somewhat of the “ultimate                            goal.” During the age of emancipation, however, Jews began to convert on their own for a                                variety of reasons. The motives for conversion vary based on the time and place in which the                                  convert lived. In this study, the lives of converts who lived during the Holocaust were examined                                in order to ascertain the effects of conversion on their lives. Identifying the motives behind                              conversion provide a gateway to understanding the ways in which conversion affected the                          converts later in life, and gives the historical context necessary to understand the implications for                              the Jewish community and for Jewish­Christian relations.   When studying conversion in the context of Jewish history, scholars have tried to                          ascertain the sincerity of these conversions. However, certain eras in Jewish history have posed                             
  • 3. 2  more of a problem than others. For example, during the age of emancipation Jews could convert                                for material gain, or to flee anti­semitism, even if it was only minor or hindered them in any way                                      occupationally. There was no impending tragedy that caused Jews to convert during this time.                            They had the freedom, as well as the potential benefits to look forward to. As fellow convert                                  Heinrich Heine put it, conversion was “the ticket of admission into European culture.” When                             1 looking at conversion during the years leading up to the Final Solution, however, there is an                                added complication. This impending tragedy and the trauma felt afterwards by survivors makes                          studying the motives for conversion and the relationship of the converts to Judaism even more                              complex. Sincerity, therefore, becomes almost impossible to measure. Additionally, it is                      necessary to take into consideration that many conversions in this era were done for protection.                              In some cases, Jews who were converted as small children still felt an obligation or an                                attachment to Judaism later in life, while others felt no attachment at all. The complex                              combination of these factors make studying conversion in the Holocaust, especially when                        thinking about it in terms of sincerity, even more complicated. The results, however, yield a                              greater understanding of the ways in which trauma affects religious identity. Ultimately, the hope                            is that by studying the individual lives of converts rather than just numerical data, a new level of                                    understanding of the complexity of religious identity in the Holocaust will be reached.   Many factors come into play when working with oral testimonies recorded up to fifty                            years after the events took place. Moreover, it must be noted that there were likely a combination                                  of factors contributing to their decision to convert beyond pragmatism, especially depending on                          1  "Heinrich Heine: German Lyric Poet and Jewish Political Agitator." ​Sitewide ATOM. N.p., 03 July 2012.  Web. 22 July 2016.  <http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2012/07/heinrich­heine­german­lyric­poet­and­jewish­political­agitator />.   
  • 4. 3  the region in which they lived. Converts came from a myriad of backgrounds. Some were fully                                Jewish, but had received no religious instruction and had grown up in a secular environment,                              while others were raised in traditional Jewish homes. Still, some were the children of parents                              who had converted previously, or were the children of an intermarriage, making them                          Mischlinge under Nazi law, and therefore, subject to certain legislation. Taking religious                        background, age, education, life experiences, and the region in which they lived into account,                            converts generally either felt some obligation to Judaism after converting, were confused about                          their religious identity, walked away from religion altogether, or had a genuine spiritual                          transformation upon converting.   I. Obligation to Judaism  The level of Jewish education differed in converts; however, a number of them, even                            after converting, demonstrated varying degrees of attachment to their Jewish heritage, feeling an                          obligation to Judaism in some way. In some cases, this meant that they still considered                              themselves Jewish, and in others cases they wanted to honor Jewish family members who                            perished by identifying as Jewish. Still, others wanted to raise Jewish children even if they were                                raised in a secular household. Many times, with this feeling of “obligation” came a sense of dual                                  loyalty and even betrayal to Judaism, even to the point of feeling completely out of place in both                                    churches and synagogues, as exemplified through Arlette De Long’s testimony. Another aspect                        of feeling obligated to Judaism in some way, is the basic acknowledgment of one’s Jewish                              heritage despite previous indifference or even hatred towards it. Jews who experienced                        conversion likely cycled through the feelings of indifference, betrayal, guilt, and                       
  • 5. 4  acknowledgment, but in the following cases, they arrived at a place where they felt a sense of                                  duty to continue their Jewish heritage by various means.   It is difficult to ascertain the number of conversion in countries such as France and Great                                  Britain, whose civil governments did not recognize any change in one’s religious status. There                            were generally three kinds of converts in 19th century France: Jews who converted for social and                                material reasons, Jews who were looking for the meaning of life through spirituality, experienced                            a genuine conversion, and afterwards shared their faith with their friends, and Jews who were                              uneducated, poor, and were swept up in the words of the missionaries. Scholar Todd Endelman                              suggests that for those who fit in the third category of poor, uneducated Jews, “it is clear that                                    poverty and emotional distress rather than social prejudice and occupational discrimination were                        responsible for their abandonment of Judaism.” Endelman also notes that the small number of                             2 French Jews who did convert for social/occupational reasons during the middle of the 19th                            century, were not converting because they were on the outskirts of society, but because they                              were very integrated, and wanted to avoid any possible hiccup in their complete assimilation and                              acculturation. Primarily, Jews in the first half of the 19th century were able to gain success and                                  social status without converting. The majority of Jews during this period in French history were                              being integrated into society without encountering significant hostility. In addition, there was not                          a significant amount of French Jews who emigrated from France during this time, showing that                              conditions in France and Germany were not as similar as some scholars have previously                            suggested.  3 2  ​Endelman, Todd M. "Anti­Semitism and Apostasy in Nineteenth­Century France: A Response to Jonathan  Helfand." ​Jewish History 5.2 (1991): 57­64. Web. (p. 61).   3  Endelman, pp. 59­63   
  • 6. 5  Jews in 1930s France were generally safe, but upon Hitler’s takeover, some Jews were                            not above converting or posing as Christians in order to protect themselves. Arlette De Long’s                              family did just that. Arlette was born in Brocourt, Somme France on June 15, 1937, and as the                                    only Jewish family in their small village of 300 people, in addition to being the only doctors in                                    the area, her family lived comfortably. Beginning in 1940 when Germany invaded France, life                            changed for Arlette’s family. Even before Kristallnacht, her parents had an ominous feeling that                            it was becoming unsafe to be a Jew in Europe. At this time, they hid their Jewish identity, which                                      was relatively easy since it was already assumed that no one in her village was Jewish. When                                  Arlette was ten, she and her family moved to Paris. She recounts this time as the first time she                                      became aware that her family was Jewish.   4 Once in Paris, her family continued to pretend they were Christians and had Arlette                            baptized into the Catholic church. Consequently, she was able to attend Catholic school and                            church regularly. Regarding her feelings about church, Arlette thought the priest was “very nice”                            and that what was taught each Sunday was “very simple­­ If you are good, God loves you.” “The                                    Jewish religion did not offer the same kind of comfort...God was removed [from us]...it was a                                God that every year looked at you and decided whether you would live or die.” Arlette                                continued, “I didn’t like the synagogue. It looked like just a room­­an empty, cold room.” She                                was also afraid of the rabbi, since he had daughters that he for whom he had arranged marriages                                    against their will. With all of these conflicting feelings, senses, and beliefs, Arlette decided that                              she “did not like... being a Jew.”   5 4  Arlette De Long Oral History Interview, February 6, 1993 by Larry Papier.  <​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn511640​>.   5  Arlette De Long    
  • 7. 6  During this time she remembers that her father still attended synagogue, but there were                            no Jewish symbols in their home, and they did not keep kosher. They did, however, celebrate the                                  major Jewish holidays. She specifically remembers Yom Kippur, which left an imprint on her                            young memory after all these years. After turning eighteen and moving out on her own, Arlette                                stopped attending religious services. After immigrating to the United States in 1962, getting                          married to a Methodist to escape her Jewish heritage, and trying to take her children to                                synagogue, Arlette decided to raise her children without any religious instruction, in order to let                              them choose for themselves. Upon moving to the United States if people asked what religion                              was, she would tell them she was Jewish. Of her two children, her son had neither a connection                                    with nor a desire to embrace Judaism. Her daughter, on the other hand, was so inquisitive about                                  the Holocaust that it encouraged Arlette to embrace her Jewish roots as an adult, so much so, that                                    she said she could “never convert,” despite the fact that she had previously never felt a strong                                  connection to Judaism.    6 Later in life, Arlette attended synagogue, but always felt “out of place.” She also went to                                church sporadically, but would always cry when she attended, and could not stay because she felt                                that she “didn’t belong.” It would seem that Arlette never considered herself truly converted                            from Judaism to Catholicism, despite her baptism as a child. Furthermore, this fact illustrates that                              in Arlette’s case, her Jewish identity was more closely linked with culture and less with religion.                                Additionally, Arlette’s comment about Judaism teaching that every year God “ looked at you and                              decided whether you would live or die,” points out Arlette’s desire, even if subconscious, to                              understand of the nature of God­­whether he was a good, loving God, or a God full of wrath who                                      6  Arlette De Long  Oral History Interview, February 6, 1993 by Larry Papier.  <​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn511640​>.    
  • 8. 7  had allowed the Holocaust to happen. Her family was not religious, but she did remember that                                Yom Kippur had the most impact on her as a child. It would make sense then that this Day of                                        Atonement would shape her beliefs about the nature of God, since it is the day that God                                  determines your fate. Though Arlette may have been uncertain about her religious convictions at                            this point in her life, she was ultimately grasping for some understanding of God. Arlette was                                taught in Catholic school that “if you are good, God loves you,” and from her comments, it                                  would seem that although this version of God’s character was a bit less frightening, she still felt a                                    connection to Judaism. Although Arlette felt out of place at both synagogues and churches                            throughout her life, she nevertheless came to terms with her Jewish heritage, and found it easier                                to embrace Judaism than Christianity.    7 Like Arlette, Denise Epstein was born in Paris, France in 1929 to highly educated,                            acculturated parents. Her father was a successful banker, and her mother was a famous author.                              When the war broke out, however, her mother’s books were unable to be published because she                                was Jewish, and Denise was forced to wear the yellow star. Within the span of a few months,                                    both of Denise’s parents were arrested, and she was secretly baptized in Paris in 1939. After                                receiving certificates of disappearance for both of her parents, Denise was sent to a Catholic                              boarding school where all outside contact was prohibited. The nuns at this convent adamantly                            tried to convince her that her best option was to stay there and become a nun so that “at least God                                          would protect her;” however, Denise was not interested. Eventually, she was given permission                          not to attend mass anymore, and to start completely embracing her life as a Jew. After this point                                    in her life, she “refused to be Catholic.” After the war, Denise began working at her father’s old                                    7  Arlette De Long    
  • 9. 8  bank and met her future husband there, who was not Jewish, but had fought in the war and had a                                        tumultuous childhood as well. Upon meeting each other, the couple decided that raising happy                            children would be the solution to overcoming their terrible pasts. Specifically, Denise felt it                            would be a “victory” to raise Jewish children.    8 Though Denise came from a very assimilated Jewish family, the decision to completely                          reject Catholicism and embrace Judaism at such a young age (she would have been ten or eleven                                  years old) is astonishing. Also interesting to note is that though Denise did not marry a Jewish                                  man, she felt that it would be a “victory” to raise Jewish children. Whether Denise’s decision to                                  reject Catholicism and embrace Judaism had more to do with her experiences at the convent or                                feeling an obligation to her parent’s faith, her decision nonetheless exemplifies the eventual                          acknowledgement of some Holocaust survivors of their Judaism despite initial conversion.    In some cases, converts were exposed to both Judaism and Christianity at a young age,                              which confused them and made it difficult for them to feel a connection to either religion.                                Gertrude Goetz experienced this type of pull in both directions. She was born in Vienna, Austria                                in 1941 and was the only child of her parents. Gertrude’s family owned a dry goods store and                                    lived in a Gentile area, thus she was not exposed to Judaism. Her mother did not believe in                                    anything even though she was raised Jewish. Her father, on the other hand, came from a religious                                  home, but after marrying, he stopped observing any traditions since his wife was not religious.                              There was one Jewish family that lived in the same apartment complex as Gertrude’s family, and                                those children became her best friends. It was only when Gertrude went over to this family’s                                apartment that she was exposed to Jewish traditions. For a brief time Gertrude attended first                              8  Transcript, Denise Epstein Oral History Interview, August 17, 2005, by Vera Frankl.  <​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn517507​>.    
  • 10. 9  grade at a public school, but after that time she and the other Jewish students in her apartment                                    complex could not go there anymore, so they began attending a Jewish school. It was there that                                  she learned about Judaism for the first time.   9 In 1938, Gertrude’s father was taken to Dachau, and the rest of her family obtained visas                                to Italy. Upon arriving, Gertrude was granted permission to attend a certain school which was                              being run by a group of Italian nuns in her village. Her mother wanted her to be taught, so she                                        approached the Mother Superior, who said that Gertrude’s soul was destined for purgatory. If                            Gertrude were to stay, she explained, the nuns would have to be allowed to influence her,                                including in religion. Her mother said that because the Jews have suffered so much already, that                                it would be fine if Gertrude were taught by the nuns. During the time that Gertrude was at the                                      convent, she learned about Catholicism. “They flattered me...they made me read one day a                            prophecy...that the war would end on April 20, 1943, the day of Hitler’s birthday…” so she went                                  home to her mother and said that if the war ended on that day, then she would know that the                                        Catholic religion was the real religion and she would therefore convert. While at this Catholic                              school, some peers would taunt her and ask her how many Christs there were, and one day she                                    decided to answer “300,” prompting the priest to have a meeting with her and her mother. It was                                    at that point that she realized she really had to monitor what she said in front of people. Gertrude                                      recalled, “I felt torn between being Jewish and being possibly Catholic.”    10 9  Gertrude Goetz Oral History Interview, May 19, 1984, by Oral History Interviews of the University of  California, Los Angeles Holocaust Testimonies Project.  <​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn503599​>.   10   Gertrude Goetz Oral History Interview, May 19, 1984, by Oral History Interviews of the University of  California, Los Angeles Holocaust Testimonies Project.  <​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn503599​>.    
  • 11. 10  Since Gertrude’s family was not religious, the only time she was ever exposed to Judaism                              was when she spent time with the Jewish family in her apartment complex. Moreover, the                              education Gertrude received at her school most likely filled in the gaps of her lack of Jewish                                  education at home. It makes sense then that the religious instruction Gertrude received at the                              convent would contrast with what she already knew about Judaism. Even more confusing for                            Gertrude must have been that she was never formally converted, only instructed in Catholicism,                            thus causing her to feel torn between Catholicism and Judaism. Though she was exposed to both                                religions, she could not have felt torn if she did not possess at least some inclination towards                                  Judaism.   For converts born to observant parents, the transition from Judaism to Christianity was                          even more complex. Susan Lederman was born in 1937 in Bratislava, Slovakia and was the only                                child. Her father owned a printing shop and her mother worked part time as his bookkeeper, but                                  both parents had a farming background. Her parents also had a solid Jewish education. Susan                              explained that her family was “modern Orthodox” and observed Jewish dietary laws and the                            sabbath. The entire Jewish community in which they lived was very well integrated into society.                              Her town was about 100,000, and Jews and non­Jews had good relationships with one another.                              Susan’s father was very well connected with the non­Jewish community which helped them later                            on. He was also involved with a number of secular organizations as well as Bnai B’rith. In 1943,                                    Susan’s parents had her converted so that she would be able to start school. She had to go into                                      hiding in 1944 and there was a partisan uprising in the mountains that year. At the same time,                                     
  • 12. 11  Nazis invaded Slovakia and life became even more dangerous. Susan explained that there were                            some deportations before 1944, but not many.    11 In the spring of 1943, Susan was at her grandparents’ house when her family’s seamstress                              picked her up and gave her a dress to wear. She immediately took her to a Lutheran church                                    where she remembered kneeling on a red cushion with a priest nearby. It was at this time that she                                      was converted to Lutheranism, which was the minority religion since Czechoslovakia was a                          Catholic country. The conversion enabled Susan to start school, but it was also her parent’s way                                of protecting her. Susan said that the conversion “did not change any deep held feelings...I still                                knew I was Jewish.” One of Susan’s earliest memories was the firing of her German Christian                                nurse due to legislation forbidding Gentiles to work for Jews. She also remembers tense train                              rides to visit grandparents, and that two other Jewish families moved in with her family.   12 Susan’s parents had attempted to leave Slovakia for the United States before the war in                              1938; however, their visas came too late. Susan said, “There was a great deal of discussion on                                  how to protect me.” She spent the summer of 1944 in a small village that was predominantly                                  Catholic with another family for protection. The only Lutheran church was a couple of villages                              away. She ran into two of her Jewish friends from her old school at this church. Wondering why                                    they were there, she made a scene, causing her host family to worry that the incident would                                  expose them for hiding a Jew. One day, some German soldiers approached her while Susan was                                outside and asked directions. Since Susan was the only one in the village who knew German, it                                  made her look suspicious. For her own protection she had to leave the village.   13 11  Susan Lederman Oral History Interview, 1984, by Sidney Langer.  <​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn503102​>.   12   Susan Lederman   13   Susan Lederman    
  • 13. 12  A group of Catholic nuns were taking in Jewish children nearby. Instead of going to this                                convent, she went to live with the Gentile family in the small village until they sent her back to                                      her mother. In 1944, Susan returned to her parents from the village, and at the time her parents                                    were hiding in a bombed out factory in Bratislava. Susan describes the situation as “luck”                              because at the very same time that she returned home, the Catholic nuns who were hiding the                                  Jewish children were deported to concentration camps, and so were all of the children. Susan                              stayed with an Hungarian Christian family in Bratislava who were “willing to risk it” since                              Susan had blonde hair and blue eyes, and they had an extra room in their house because they had                                      no children. Susan pretended to be their niece visiting and lived under an assumed name. They                                woke her up several times in the middle of the night to drill her on who she was and what she                                          was doing there. She also had to pretend that she didn’t understand German. At this point in her                                    life, Susan understood that she was in danger because she was Jewish.  14 After liberation in April 1944 by the Russians, her parents were able to visit her once a                                  month at the home of the Christian family. Susan’s father had an exemption because of his work,                                  and had good contacts in the Jewish community, giving her family some protection. During the                              time that followed, Susan recalled that there was a shortage of food, and her parents were finding                                  out who in the family survived. Most of her family members died, and it was a very sad time.                                      After the war, her family moved into an apartment and did not return to their house. Susan came                                    to the United States in 1948 with her parents, since both of them had family in New York.   15 Following the war, her parents no longer kept a kosher home, and Susan did not have                                anymore Jewish education. Her father had always been an observant Jew, but now he was only                                14   Susan Lederman  Oral History Interview, 1984, by Sidney Langer.  <​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn503102​>.   15   Susan Lederman    
  • 14. 13  an observant Jew “in spirit.” Her mother “never believed again.” Susan’s view of the Jewish                              question as a child was that it was “part of [her] conscience and being.” Specifically, she                                remembers being upset with friends who didn’t have the patience to read the Diary of Anne                                Frank. The family that was already in the U.S. did not want to know anything about what had                                    happened to Susan’s family or to the rest of the Jews of Europe. They refused to talk about it,                                      and Susan was upset. She and her parents were the only ones in the family willing to                                  acknowledge that the Holocaust actually happened. Susan’s family was helped by HIAS, like                          many other Jewish families who emigrated. Susan mentioned the concept of a “perception gap”                            that existed among survivors.“More could have been done” by the United States and other                            countries to prevent the Holocaust, she said. Despite the failings of America, “I am an inherent                                optimist.” [The United States] “is still an accepting society.”    16 Though Susan was converted secretly at a young age, she nevertheless understood that                          she was Jewish and that what was happening to her was a result of being Jewish. Her testimony                                    raises questions of the great lengths educated, observant families were willing to go in order to                                protect their children, up to and including conversion, knowing that their children could grow up                              and walk away completely from the Jewish faith. In Susan’s case, she did not become indifferent                                to Judaism, but rather, felt a duty to bear witness to what she and millions of others experienced                                    in the Holocaust.   Similarly, Krystyna Budnicka was also born in 1932 to an observant Jewish family of ten                              in Warsaw, Poland. After being relocated into the Warsaw ghetto, surviving the Great                          Deportation, and also witnessing the Warsaw ghetto uprising, ​Krystyna was able to finish high                            16   Susan Lederman Oral History Interview, 1984, by Sidney Langer.  <​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn503102​>.    
  • 15. 14  school at a Christian orphanage where she remembers being treated very kindly. As an adult,                              Krystyna acknowledged her Jewish roots, but adopted Christianity as her religion and devoted                          her life to working with special needs children. It is unknown what caused Krystyna to embrace                                Christianity; however, it is interesting to note the possible link between being raised in an                              observant household and her acknowledgment of her Jewish heritage, while still embracing                        Christianity.   17 Unlike Susan Lederman and Krystyna Budnicka, Eva Koepsell was born to Jewish                        parents who both converted to Catholicism when she was a child. Born in Budapest, Hungary in                                1944, Eva was raised Roman Catholic. Her mother was a social worker, but immediately lost her                                job because she was Jewish. Her father was a physicist and was able to keep his job until 1943.                                      By the time Eva was eight months old, her family was living in different cellars in the ghetto. In                                      a matter of months, Eva’s father was deported to a labor camp. At one point, Eva’s mother                                  decided that the only way to survive would be to take off the yellow star and leave the ghetto.                                      There was a sense that even their conversion papers would not do much for them. Eva recalled                                  that some of her parents’ friends also converted, but were still deported. In order to get Eva to a                                      safe place, her mother took her to a Red Cross facility in Hungary and left her there for a few                                        months. Eva described life in Budapest after the war: “chaos, starvation, no medical supplies.”                            Everyone was frantically searching for lost relatives. She explained how Hungarian Jews were                          very assimilated, but lost so much in a very short amount of time.   18 17  ​Krystyna Budnicka Oral History Interview, July 1994, by Nathan Beyrak.  <​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn507764​>.   18  Eva Koepsell Oral History Interview, February 19, 1990 by Toby Ticktin Back.  <​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn511795​>.    
  • 16. 15  In 1947, her family immigrated to the United States, and Eva recalls that there was “lots                                of eating.” Eva later attended a Catholic school since she was raised Roman Catholic. Eva                              remembered that in school she learned catechisms and lessons about Jesus being Jewish, and she                              would tell her parents what she learned. According to Eva, they would always “talk up being                                Jewish”­­ that being Jewish “was a wonderful thing.” Eva asked her parents why her other                              relatives in New York were Jewish and they were not, at which point they explained to her that                                    they were also Jewish, much to Eva’s surprise. Her parents told her it was a good thing that she                                      was a Catholic­­that it would protect her from the next Holocaust. When Eva had a child of her                                    own and named him David, her mother was horrified and told her the name sounded “too                                Jewish,” and that “come the next Holocaust, he would be picked out.” Eva’s mother eventually                              returned to Hungary when she was 80 years old, and moved into an Orthodox Jewish home for                                  the elderly where it was necessary for her to prove her Jewish heritage. Eva, on the other hand,                                    remarked, “Sometimes I feel guilty [for being alive].”   19 Since Eva’s parents converted to Catholicism before she was born, Eva was raised                          Roman Catholic, and was not aware that she was Jewish until her family moved to the United                                  States and started school. Interestingly, it was her parents that encouraged her to embrace her                              Jewish roots, though at the time she was receiving a Catholic education. In this case, Eva’s                                parents experienced the most attachment to Judaism after their conversion; whereas, Eva did not                            grasp the full meaning of the situation until much later in life. Eva’s situation is unique in that                                    she was not formally converted to Catholicism. It was her parents who had the most impact on                                  19   Eva Koepsell Oral History Interview, February 19, 1990 by Toby Ticktin Back.  <​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn511795​>.    
  • 17. 16  how she viewed Judaism, and consequently, she then felt an obligation to Judaism despite not                              being raised Jewish.   Conclusion  The commonality among the aforementioned testimonies is that the converts all received                        some sort of religious instruction early in life. Coupled with the knowledge of their Jewish                              heritage, it caused them to question their religious identity later in life. Though these conversions                              were performed for protection, the testimonies indicate the extent to which Jewish education (or                            lack thereof) affected the converts’ ability to completely abandon Judaism and embrace                        Christianity. In each case, regardless of their religious upbringing or age of conversion, the                            converts felt an obligation to Judaism in some capacity, whether through acknowledging their                          roots, raising Jewish children, or simply feeling the need to educate people on their experiences.                              Because these conversions were for protection, the question of sincerity does pose a problem. In                              fact, in this case, it is irrelevant. What can be said, however, is that converting for protection did                                    not necessarily mean that the convert abandoned their Jewish faith. Even if one was raised in a                                  secular environment, in some cases they still possessed an inclination towards Judaism,                        especially if the conversion happened at a young age, or if they discovered their Jewish roots                                later in life.   II. Intermarriage and Conversion   Just as protection was a strong motive for conversion in 1930s Europe, intermarriage                          laws also contributed to the rise in conversion in places where this legislation was in effect. Even                                  in countries such as Germany, whose governments recognized civil marriage­­meaning Jews and                        Christians were allowed to get married­­there were still a number of conversions which took                             
  • 18. 17  place after the unification of Germany and the formal emancipation of the Jews in 1871. In                                Germany from 1881­1885, the average number of Jews who converted to Protestant Christianity                          was 198, and then jumped to 459 between the years of 1896­1900. After the turn of the century,                                    conversion began to decline­­averaging 359 conversions per year between 1911­1915, and then                        lowering to 142 conversions per year between 1926­1930. Between the years of 1901­1905, the                            intermarriage rate was 8.99%, and climbed steadily for the next thirty years. From 1926­30, the                              intermarriage rate was 21.52%. During the Weimar Republic period in Germany, it was Jewish                            men who were more likely to intermarry than Jewish women. This trend can be seen in the                                   20 following testimony of Juergen Simonson, who was born in Germany to one Jewish and one                              Aryan parent.   Juergen Simonson was born in East Germany in 1924, to an Aryan mother and Jewish                              father whose own parents had converted to Christianity; thus, Juergen was raised Christian, and                            his family had “very few links to the Jewish community.” After the Nuremberg Laws, Juergen’s                              father was dismissed from his position as a judge, and the family moved to Dresden in 1938 to                                    escape antisemitism. Even after the enactment of the Nuremberg Laws in September 1935, the                            Berlin missionary society still received applications for baptism. In fact, from January to April                            1936, there were 46 converts. Throughout the second half the 1930s in Germany, Jews continued                              to convert, despite the mounting complaints from antisemites. Even matters such as Christians of                            Jewish descent being buried in Christian cemeteries incited conflict and caused local antisemites                          to complain. During this time, however, there was nothing major to be gained by Jews who                                20 Lowenstein, Steven M. "Jewish Intermarriage and Conversion in Germany and Austria." ​Modern Judaism  25.1 (2005): 23­61. Web.​ (pp. 25, 30, 42).    
  • 19. 18  wished to convert, since Nazi legislation targeted race, not religion. Still, there continued to be                              those who desired baptism.    21 In March 1939, Juergen’s father was able to flee to England after obtaining a travel visa                                from an Aryan sponsor, leaving Juergen and his mother in Germany. During this time, Juergen                              did not have to wear the yellow star since he was a Mischlinge, and was relatively protected                                  because his mother was Aryan. After graduating from high school in 1942, Juergen worked on                              repairing railroads that had been bombed from April 1944 to September 1944. Escaping forced                            labor, Juergen was able to get a job with the U.S. Army, and later contacted Bishop George Bell                                    in England to inquire on the whereabouts of his father. Recalling his meeting with Bell decades                                later, Juergen said, “He had the most translucent blue eyes that I’ve ever seen...you really saw                                through the eyes into his soul.” In 1945, Juergen visited his father in England who had become                                  an Anglican priest in the interim. In Dresden, he had attended an Anglican church.    22 Juergen eventually followed in his father’s footsteps and attended a theological seminary                        in England and became ordained in 1952. His initial pull to ministry came when he was in a                                    German POW camp and was asked to give a sermon. The only scripture he knew well enough to                                    preach on was John 6:68: “​Simon Peter ​answered him, ‘Lord, to whom shall we go? You have                                  the words of eternal life.’” At the start of his ministry, Juergen was neither involved nor                                interested in becoming involved with the ecumenical movement or Jewish­Christian relations,                      which were still on shaky terms. Later in his ministry, however, he became involved with the                                Council for Christians and Jews. When asked about the links between anti­Judaism and                          21  Clark, Christopher M. ​The Politics of Conversion: Missionary Protestantism and the Jews in Prussia,  1728­1941. Oxford: Clarendon, 1995. Print. (pp. 297­ 298).   22  Juergen Simonson Oral History Interview, March 30, 1998 by Peggy Obrecht.  <​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn506688​>.    
  • 20. 19  anti­semitism, Juergen believed that they have “very close ties with one another.” Juergen feels                            that the Gospels in the New Testament do present a problem for Jewish­Christian relations, and                              expressed doubts about Christianity ever being totally rid of anti­Judaism.   23 Though Juergen was raised Christian and did not go through a conversion process, he still                              experienced life as a Mischlinge under Nazi legislation. The Nazi legislation that was passed on                              April 7, 1933 excluded anyone from the civil service who was “racially Jewish.” Therefore, even                              conversion to Christianity did not help, because it was only changing one’s religion, not their                              ethnicity. In Juergen’s case, he was raised as a Christian but still fell under Mischlinge status.                                Additionally, this new law helped spark the birth of the Confessing Church of Germany, which                              Juergen commented, was a “great encouragement” to his family and many others. Surprisingly,                          there was not a large number of pastors of Jewish origin who were affected by the enactment of                                    this law.    24 In 1933, there were approximately 18,000 German Protestant pastors, but only 29 were of                            Jewish origin, and of that number, 11 were exempt since they fought for Germany in WWI.                                 25 Juergen and his father were not apart of the Confessing Church since their congregations were in                                England; however, if Juergen and his father had decided to stay in Germany, they would have                                fallen under this category of pastors of Jewish origin. Juergen was convinced that if his father                                had not received a sponsorship from his diplomat friend, that he would have had to wear the                                  yellow star and would have eventually been deported.     26 23  Juergen Simonson   24  Clark, Christopher M. ​The Politics of Conversion: Missionary Protestantism and the Jews in Prussia,  1728­1941. Oxford: Clarendon, 1995. Print. (p. 289).   25  Clark, p. 290  26   Juergen Simonson Oral History Interview, March 30, 1998 by Peggy Obrecht.  <​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn506688​>.    
  • 21. 20  In Juergen’s family’s case, they were able to escape Germany. If they had stayed,                            however, they would have been subject to the chaos that followed. Since Juergen was a                              Mischlinge, he was relatively protected because of his mother's Aryan status. Though his family                            did not belong to a Reich association, many non­Aryan Christian families like Juergen’s were                            members of Reich associations. In 1936, these individuals numbered about 60,000. In a census                            taken May 17, 1939, there were 23,529 Christians of non­Aryan descent (“racial Jews”) in                            Germany, and of that number, 13,126 belonged to Protestant churches. People inside and                           27 outside the Church voiced their complaints during the 1930s about the fact that Jews were being                                baptised by German Protestant clergyman, citing that it was a “blow in the face” for anyone who                                  belonged to the National Socialist Party. These sentiments were still held even when                         28 conversion was on an individual basis, mostly because German Protestants believed that “the                          instruction and conversion of Jews was irreconcilable with the new racial and political                          dispensation in Germany.”   29 In one instance in July 1936 in Fehrbellin, a Jewish woman who had converted to                              Christianity caused a local commotion when her children, who were of mixed blood (her                            husband was Aryan) were allowed to sing in the Fehrbellin church choir. Dr. Harder, the pastor                                of the church, announced the woman’s conversion one Sunday during the service, which caused                            people to be critical of Harder’s politics. The issue of Christians of non­Aryan descent                             30 culminated in the gathering of the four German missionary societies of Berlin, Basel, Leipzig,                            27  Clark, p. 291  28  Clark, p. 292  29  Clark, Christopher M. ​The Politics of Conversion: Missionary Protestantism and the Jews in Prussia,  1728­1941. Oxford: Clarendon, 1995. Print. ( p. 292).  30  Clark, p. 292   
  • 22. 21  and Cologne, in which the topic of forming separate congregations for racially Jewish Christians                            and non­Aryan Christians was addressed and opposed.   The statement read: 31 “​Accepting our relationship with the Jewish people as part of the History of Salvation                              entails the full acknowledgement of the Jewish Christian within the space of the church.                            According to scripture, every baptized [individual], including the Jewish Christian, is a                        fully entitled member of the Church as [he is] of the body of Christ. There is no biblical                                    foundation for the formation of separate Jewish ­Christian congregations.”    32   The Leipzig missionary society disbanded in July 1935 after their financial support was                          cut off, which left only the Berlin society. After the National Socialist Party came to power,                                there was a significant increase of Jewish converts to Christianity within the Berlin missionary                            society, from 5 converts in 1932, to 29 in 1933, 92 in 1934, and 50 in 1935. In Austria at the                                           33 same time, legislation was enacted which forbade the marriage of Jews to Christians without one                              spouse first converting. An example of this occurred in Ernst Weihs’s family. Born in Vienna                               34 in 1908 to fully Jewish parents, Ernst’s father returned from WWI and requested a divorce from                                his wife to be with a Lutheran woman he had met during the war. Ernst’s father eventually                                  married this woman and converted to Lutheranism. His mother was now left to raise him by                                herself, and when this became too much, she sent him to live with his father and his new wife.                                      Living under their roof, Ernst was told he must be baptized, at which point he mentioned, “I                                  didn’t have anything to do with being Jewish from that age on...I went to church.” After working                                  as a gardener for some years, he moved back to Vienna in 1928 where he found another job as a                                        gardener until 1938. Here, no one knew of his Jewish background. After a neighbor exposed his                                identity, Ernst was evicted from his apartment and forced to wear the star. His mother wanted                                31  Clark, p. 293   32  Clark, p. 293   33  Clark, pp. 294, 297  34  ​Lowenstein, Steven M. "Jewish Intermarriage and Conversion in Germany and Austria." ​Modern Judaism  25.1 (2005): 23­61. Web. ​(p. 24).    
  • 23. 22  him to flee to Palestine, so Ernst registered for a Swedish mission which interviewed Jews to                                send them to Sweden. A Jewish agency then helped him train and prepare to move to Palestine.                                     35 In 1942, Ernst was deported to a ghetto in Czechoslovakia, then put on a train to                                Theresienstadt, and eventually transported to Auschwitz. Initially, he was able to stay with                          people he knew from Vienna, but soon they were split up. In Auschwitz, Ernst recalled that the                                  Germans put some Polish Jews in charge of the barracks where he was staying, and that the                                  “Poles were worse than Germans.” He remembers marveling at the big, strong men who entered                              the gates of Auschwitz who “died like flies.” In this environment, “as soon as you got sick, you                                    were done.” One of Ernst’s jobs was to take a two­wheeler and pile the bodies up, drive them out                                      into the field, dig a large ditch, and bury them all in a mass grave. In spring 1945, they all had to                                            evacuate and were marched towards Dachau, which was liberated by the United States soon                            after.   36 Ernst was then able to return to Vienna to his step­mother’s apartment. When asked how                              it felt to be a Jew after the war, Ernst said that, “Nobody paid any attention anymore­­we figured                                    we were Lutheran.” Ernst was able to immigrate to the United States after the war and move to                                    New York, where his mother and sister were waiting for him. Ernst was not forced to convert                                   37 for protection, but rather because his step­mother and father wanted him to convert. Though                            Ernst did not talk about his religious practices later in life, he made it clear that he did not                                      35  Ernst Weihs Oral History Interview, May 30, 1989 by Linda Kuzmack.  <​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn504732​.   36  Ernst Weihs  37  ​ Ernst Weihs    
  • 24. 23  consider himself Jewish after the war. No comment was made about his religion at the time of                                  the interview.    38 Conclusion  It can be noted in these testimonies that in cases of intermarriage, conversion followed,                            specifically in countries with laws on conversion. In Central Europe, one was required to                            document any change in religious status; thus, if there was no official documentation regarding a                              conversion, someone who was born Jewish remained Jewish in the eyes of the state. This is the                                  reason there is documentary proof of Jews who either converted to Christianity or who left the                                Jewish faith altogether. In Germany, it became legal for Jews and Christians to marry by the end                                  of the nineteenth century; however, in Austria, conversion was necessary for Jews and Christians                            to marry (either spouse). Thus, in this period, intermarriage and conversion in Austria are                            related.    39 Similar to studying conversion for protection, measuring sincerity is again nearly                      impossible. Individual cases make it easier to ascertain the motives and effects of conversion on                              a specific person; however, when there are cases of a Jew marrying a Christian and converting to                                  Christianity, motives for the conversion are skewed by legislation. This is true about the                            relationship of intermarriage and conversion in Austria, but not in Germany. It must also be                              noted that in places like Germany where intermarriage was legal, and conversion still followed, it                              is more likely that the conversion was sincere, or at least done for unity in the household, adding                                    another complication to measuring sincerity during this period in Jewish history.   38  Ernst Weihs  39  ​Lowenstein, Steven M. "Jewish Intermarriage and Conversion in Germany and Austria." ​Modern Judaism  25.1 (2005): 23­61. Web. ​(p. 24).    
  • 25. 24  III. Religious Indifference  In contrast to those who converted, but still felt obligated to Judaism in some way, there                                is another group of converts who felt no attachment to either Judaism or Christianity. Chaim                              Kaplan recounted the situation of converts in the Warsaw ghetto in his diary. In some cases,                                bribery occurred to issue false documents, “stating that So­and so is an Aryan from a long line of                                    Aryans” and that “these certificates are assumed to genuine, and no one disputes their veracity.”                              Kaplan also notes that the priests issuing these false documents “made fortunes” and that those                               40 trying to pass as Aryans “enjoyed all the rights to which the Aryan race entitles its offspring.”                                   41 Moreover, “they remained outside the ghetto area legally and were treated as genuine Aryans.”                             42 Kaplan also mentions another group in the ghetto, Jews whose parents had converted and who                              were brought up as Christians. These Jews, he writes, “don’t have the slightest feeling for                               43 Judaism, either religiously or racially.” Kaplan recounts in his entry for March 7, 1941, that the                                 44 Nazis brought a group of these first generation converts to Adam Czerniakow to decide their                              fate, while “huge crowds accompanied them to the gates of the Judenrat.” Showing his disdain                               45 for these apostates, Kaplan writes, “I don’t know what their end will be, but one thing I know for                                      a certainty. Their enmity to Israel will never cease.” Kaplan’s beliefs about the converts cannot                               46 be applied to every convert in the Warsaw ghetto; however, something can be said about the fact                                  that this was his first impression of the apostates he encountered. Though Kaplan’s account is a                                40  Kaplan, Chaim Aron, and Abraham Isaac Katsh. ​Scroll of Agony; the Warsaw Diary of Chaim A. Kaplan.  New York: Macmillan, 1965. Print. ( p. 250, March 7, 1941 entry).   41  Kaplan, p. 250  42  Kaplan, p. 250  43  Kaplan, p. 250  44  Kaplan, p. 250  45  Kaplan, p. 250  46   Kaplan, Chaim Aron, and Abraham Isaac Katsh. ​Scroll of Agony; the Warsaw Diary of Chaim A. Kaplan.  New York: Macmillan, 1965. Print. ( p. 250, March 7, 1941 entry).   
  • 26. 25  general one, it nevertheless provides a look into the lives of a religious minority in the Warsaw                                  ghetto.   Though Paul Strassman was not deported to the Warsaw ghetto, his testimony falls under                            the category of converts who, at the time of the interview, felt no attachment to their Jewish                                  heritage “either religiously or racially,” as Kaplan said. Paul was born in 1929 in Trencin,                               47 Czechoslovakia, and his father had a very high up position in the Austro­Hungarian army. Paul                              attended a Jewish elementary school and had a normal childhood during that time. In 1936, he                                joined a youth organization that had very strong views about its role in Israel. He became                                involved because his friends were involved. In the town of Trencin, there were about 14,000                              people at the time that he was growing up, and of that number, only about 1,400 Jews. The other                                      youth organization was a very religious one, but Paul expressed that he was never interested in                                religion, though his mother was very observant and his grandfather used to take him to                              synagogue. Despite being a good scholar in regard to the Jewish texts, Paul and his father were                                  very liberal in their views of Judaism, which is why he wanted to stay away from the religious                                    organizations.   48 In 1938, Paul’s father felt that the political situation was getting worse, and they made a                                  decision to leave the country. Paul’s mother kept all the money that they were saving in a metal                                    box, but the week before they were all going to leave, she found that the box had fallen behind                                      the radiator and all the money had been charred and was no longer usable. Disheartened and                                disillusioned though he was, Paul’s father never uttered a word about it. After this incident the                                family decided to stay where they were, citing the fact that there was not enough money and                                  47  Kaplan, p. 250  48  Paul Strassman Oral History Interview, July 11, 1990, by Linda Kuzmack.  <​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn504717​>.    
  • 27. 26  there were too many family members to worry about. Legislation in Czechoslovakia started in                            1940, but it did not affect Paul’s family right away. His father was friends with two priests in the                                      community, and one of them promised his father that he would do everything in his power to                                  protect him because of his service to the community. Paul’s father received a presidential writ                              which protected him from deportation, but it did not extend to the rest of his family.   49 By 1940 radios were taken away, and by 1941 telephones were also forbidden. It was at                                this time that Jews were required to wear the star. Paul recalled traveling in groups with other                                  Jews for protection, and that books became “very precious.” His Jewish school dissolved in                            1941, but he was able to have “very distinguished” private tutors. Deportations began in 1942,                              and his father was advised that he could be further protected if he was baptized. Baptism meant                                  that he could be re­classified, and “it would look better.” When Paul’s father made the decision                                to baptize the family in 1942, Paul had just had his bar mitzvah in January 1942. They could not                                      get baptized in the Catholic church, “because it would require the Archbishop dispensation”                          which would have taken up to two years. In the Evangelical Protestant church, however, it would                                only take eight months. Paul would simply have to go to school and learn catechisms before his                                  baptism.   50 If one was well connected, Paul explained, it was possible to find out the night before                                whether or not your name was on the deportation list. In 1942 when the deportation started,                                people just thought they were going from a bad situation to a worse situation­­­like a work camp.                                  People would ask the Judenrat what to take, such as pots and pans. There was no awareness of                                    the conditions of where they were going after deportation, and certainly not an awareness of the                                49  Paul Strassman Oral History Interview, July 11, 1990, by Linda Kuzmack.  <​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn504717​>.  50  Paul Strassman    
  • 28. 27  gas chambers. Additionally, the idea of Jewish resistance was a “Utopian” idea, and Paul                            considered it only for the extreme. Paul’s father used to take him and his siblings on long                                  two­day hikes out in the mountains as a way for them to escape the oppressiveness. The                                anti­semitism, Paul explained, was concentrated in the urban environments, and in the smaller                          villages with less people, there was no antisemitism.   51 In terms of his religious convictions after his conversion, Paul said: “It turns out that the                                Lutheran religion appeals to me more than the Jewish religion, because the Jewish religion is so                                obscure and...so full of archaic rituals.” The Lutheran church in Slovakia in the 1940s was a                                very modern forward thinking church. Paul explained that when “the Lutherans are a minority                            they are very nice people.” By 1942, out of 1,400 Jews in Trencin, there were only about 150                                    Jews left. Relationships with the remaining Jews in their town did not change at all once they                                  were baptized. They were all very close because there was so few of them.   52 Starting in 1942 with the deportations, and after his baptism, Paul’s daily life was                            relatively consistent: He would get up, go to his tutoring, to the gym, and to church on Sunday.                                    His sister found a job, his mother was at home, his grandparents on his father’s side were                                  protected. Except for the long hikes they would take on weekends, they were completely                            invisible. In 1944, Paul’s family and the remaining Jews of Trencin, had to form a plan of action                                    regarding whether or not they needed to go into hiding or disperse the family.   53 In August 1944, Paul’s father was taken hostage along with eleven others by the Gestapo                              for being involved with smuggling food. After his father’s arrest, Paul knew the Gestapo was                              51  Paul Strassman Oral History Interview, July 11, 1990, by Linda Kuzmack.  <​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn504717​>.  52  Paul Strassman   53  Paul Strassman   
  • 29. 28  looking for him, but he was advised by his father the day before that he should sleep at a friend’s                                        house in order to disperse the family. Paul eventually found out that his father was subsequently                                tortured and died in Sachsenhausen. Leaving Trencin, Paul headed for the mountains and swam                            until he was out of the city. Finding a partisan group, he tried to join them; however, they turned                                      him away and gave him a hand grenade for protection. Paul then ran into another man who was                                    also looking to join the partisan group, so they set off to find them together. After finding the                                    partisans again, they told him that his job was not to fight the Germans, but to sabotage the                                    railroads. They also told him never to spend more than one night in the same town. Paul was                                    honorably discharged in April 1945 and then went to Paris and London.   54 After obtaining a visa, Paul was able to immigrate to the United States in October 1948.                                His first stop was the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society to see if they could help him attend                                  college. The counselor finally said that he should go to Cooper Union in New York, and                                everything would be paid for. Paul took the SAT, however his English was terrible at the time.                                  After being accepted to Cooper when someone backed out, Paul met his future wife there and                                also received a scholarship to MIT. He refused to take the scholarship, because “the Strassman’s                              don’t take charity from anyone,” and said that he would rather work his way through school.                                Paul retired in 1985 after working with computers for thirty years.  55 Paul Strassman’s testimony is unique in that he was educated in both Judaism and                            Christianity at an age where he could understand the differences between the two religions.                            Being baptized after his bar mitzvah, he would have been educated enough in Jewish tradition to                                make a decision about his beliefs. Additionally, he had private tutors and was schooled in the                                54  Paul Strassman Oral History Interview, July 11, 1990, by Linda Kuzmack.  <​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn504717​>.  55  Paul Strassman    
  • 30. 29  Jewish texts (at least as much as a thirteen year old boy can be). Even prior to his conversion,                                      however, Paul stayed away from religious youth organizations. He was likely torn between the                            religious views of his mother and grandfather, and the liberal, more secular views of his father.                                Although he went to synagogue before his conversion and to church after his conversion, going                              to church was most likely an additional form of protection for him and his family. Paul’s feelings                                  about Judaism being “an archaic religion” distance him from those that fall neatly into the                              category of converts who felt an attachment to their Jewish heritage. Paul seems not only                              unattached, but belligerent towards Judaism. While his high level of education is certainly                          impressive, it may or may not have had anything to do with his views on religion as an adult.   Born in the same city as Paul Strassman in 1938, Paul Kovac’s parents had him converted                                to Roman Catholicism shortly after he was born. His father held an “indispensable” position at a                                local agricultural college, which meant the entire family was exempt from wearing the have to                              wear the star. Paul was not brought up in a religious way, because his family was not observant                                    or religious. After the war, however, he attended religious classes with other children at a Roman                                Catholic school. In late August 1944 there was a national uprising in Slovakia, and Paul’s father                                was notified that he should leave the school and the city. In response, his father stole a horse and                                      a cart and the family escaped to a friend’s house to hide. This farmer had other friends and they                                      ended up going to those people, who lived in a small village. They stayed in hiding until 1945, at                                      which point they moved to Bratislava, Czechoslovakia.   56 Even after the war, Paul’s family never belonged to any sort of congregation, because                            they did not want to be conspicuous. In addition, he did not “seem to recall anybody of the                                    56  Paul Kovac Oral History Interview, March 26, 1990, by Linda Kuzmack.  <​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn504611​>.    
  • 31. 30  family [ever] going to a synagogue.” Paul did not experience anti­semitism until he was out of                                school. “ I didn’t advertise for myself as being Jewish...but everybody finds out about you...they                              let you know that you are different.” Paul got married in 1962, but he pointed out without                                  prompting that it was a civil ceremony, and not a religious one. He also added that he and his                                      wife brought up their son in a non­religious way. “We have never emphasized religion.” Since                              Paul’s family was not religious, it makes sense that Paul did not want to raise his son in a                                      religious way either; however, the anti­semitism he experienced later in life could have been a                              factor which solidified his disinterest in religion.    57 Like Paul Kovac, Elizabeth Goldsmith’s family was Jewish, but not observant. She was                          born in Hungary in 1918, during a time in which most Jews were also getting baptized in order to                                      keep their jobs or attend college. Her father was baptized in 1919. Since Elizabeth was raised                                 58 Presbyterian and attended a Presbyterian high school, she also attended church. When her                          brothers began to make fun of her, she became self­conscious, and soon “grew out of religious                                things.” Her family celebrated Christmas, never went to synagogue, and for the most part, “lived                              without religion.” On life before the war, Elizabeth said: “We lived a very comfortable life. We                                went to the theater, we entertained, [and] we worked a lot.” When Hitler invaded Hungary,                              however, Elizabeth’s family was regarded as Jews under the law. The Jews of Hungary were                              taken aback when what was happening in Germany began to happen to them as well, especially                                since they regarded themselves as being more Hungarian than Jewish. In Hungary, if one had                              close ties with Christians, whether through marriage or otherwise, it generally improved one’s                          57  Paul Kovac Oral History Interview, March 26, 1990, by Linda Kuzmack.  <​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn504611​>.   58  ​Nagy, Péter Tibor. "The Sociology of Survival: The Presence of the Budapest Jewish Population Groups  of 1941 in the 1945 Budapest Population." ​The Holocaust in Hungary: Seventy Years Later. Ed. Randolph  L. Braham and András Kovács. Budapest; New York: Central European UP, 2016. 183­94. Web.  (p. 190)   
  • 32. 31  chance of surviving. In fact, research shows that “having a Christian spouse increased an                            individual’s chances of survival by a factor of 1.9. In the case of Elizabeth’s family, her father’s                                  conversion did little to protect them, as Elizabeth and her sister were deported to a labor camp in                                    1944.    59 Conclusion  Each person in this section was raised in a different religious context; however, based on                              the information provided in their interviews, they all ended up becoming indifferent to religion,                            or at least never formed an attachment to Judaism. Paul Strassman was the only one who had any                                    sort of Jewish education as a child. In fact, he regarded himself as somewhat of a scholar in                                    Jewish religious texts. His conversion happened when he was thirteen years old, just after his bar                                mitzvah. Up until this point in his life, Paul had already decided that he was not interested in                                    Judaism, and avoided joining any religious youth organizations. As an adult, Paul felt more of an                                attachment to Lutheranism and regarded Judaism as an “archaic” religion. Similarly, Paul                         60 Kovac, whose family was not observant and never went to synagogue, attended Roman Catholic                            classes after the war, but ran from religion as an adult. Telling of his strong feelings on the                                    subject, Paul made sure to touch upon the fact that his marriage was a civil ceremony, not                                  religious, and that because of his childhood experiences, he wanted to make sure that his son was                                  raised without religion. Though Paul did not get into the details of why he did feel attached to                                    Judaism or Roman Catholicism, it is interesting to note that he offered this information without                              being asked about the topic of religion. Elizabeth Goldsmith, whose family “lived without                          59  Elizabeth Goldsmith Oral History Interview, January 5, 1991. By The Australian Institute of Holocaust  Studies, The Twelfth Hour Project.< ​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn43227​>.   60  Paul Strassman  Oral History Interview, July 11, 1990, by Linda Kuzmack.  <​http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn504717​>.   
  • 33. 32  religion,” but was raised Presbyterian, “grew out of religious things.” It is not clear what                               61 happened in her life between the time of her father’s baptism, her Presbyterian high school                              experience, and her brothers making fun of her for going to church that contributed to her                                religious indifference; however, Elizabeth’s life is another example of converts with a religious                          background who walked away from Judaism for one reason or another.   When trying to ascertain sincerity in conversion of people who, at least at the time of the                                  interview, were indifferent to their Jewish heritage, it must be taken into account that the                              conversions were not their choice, especially if their parents converted prior to their birth. In this                                way, measuring sincerity again becomes impossible. What can be studied, however, are the                          factors which contributed to their religious indifference. Amount of Jewish education, age of                          conversion, degree of religious observance, influence of family members, and intermarriage all                        likely influenced the feelings of the convert toward religion, especially Judaism. There is one                            component which has not been touched upon. If these same conversions had occurred in a                              different time period, they would be slightly less complicated to study; however, they occurred                            during the most traumatic time in Jewish history. Adding in this missing factor, sincere                            conversion becomes increasingly more complicated to ascertain. Moreover, converts’ feelings                    toward religion in general could have been shattered by the trauma of the Holocaust. Many                              questioned their faith and even the very existence of God. This missing link, then, is the most                                  important thing to consider when studying converts who became indifferent to religion.   IV. Sincere Conversion  61  Elizabeth Goldsmith    
  • 34. 33  The final category of conversions that must be addressed are those that, even if done for                                protection, were sincere. What was previously difficult in ascertaining the sincerity of                        conversions was not only the lack of personal information regarding their religious convictions,                          but the fact that most converts adopted Christianity as their religion only in name, still feeling                                more of a connection to Judaism. There is, however, more evidence to work with when there are                                  quotes from converts that shed light on the process they went through during and after their                                conversions. The following stories of conversion are easier to identify as sincere because of the                              confirmation of their religious convictions through personal testimony. If not for this firsthand                          information, it would be near impossible to indicate whether or not conversion was done for                              other reasons. Even within these sincere conversions, it is still possible that initially, the                            conversion was performed for protection. It is also not out of the question, as seen in the                                  following testimonies, for converts to have a spiritual transformation after a conversion that was                            only done for protection.   Conversion laws, like intermarriage laws, varied by country. In Romania, the government  banned Jewish conversion on March 18, 1941, citing that:     “The ethnic being of our People must be preserved from dilution by Jewish blood. Until                              now the Jews have been able to hide their ethnic origin by converting to our national                                religions. In order to prevent such a crime against our national community, it is necessary                              to modify Article 44 of the Law on Religions, forbidding Jews to convert to any other                                religion.”    62   Other laws such as this one were passed in the late 1930s in Romania in order to slowly remove                                      Jews from the public sphere, and single them out in every possible way. During the summer of                                  62  Popa, I. "Sanctuary from the Holocaust? Roman Catholic Conversion of Jews in Bucharest, Romania,  1942." ​Holocaust and Genocide Studies 29.1 (2015): 39­56. Web. (p. 39).    
  • 35. 34  1942, with rumored deportation hanging over their heads, many Jews converted to Catholicism.                          In August, plans were announced by the Romanian authorities that all Jews were to be deported.                                Between August 9, 1940 and May 20, 1942, 1,311 people converted to Christianity. In a Cabinet                                meeting of the Romanian government in April. 1942, it was decided that Romanian Jews who                              had converted to Christianity would “not be deported yet, for reasons of political                          opportuneness.” The plans which had been negotiated in the summer of 1942 to deport the                               63 remaining Romanian Jews to Belzec had been derailed by October, because of the Romanian                            government’s mistrust of Hitler.    64 The first mention of Jewish converts to Catholicism in Bucharest, Romania was in a                            document from the Police Prefecture dating August 8, 1942, which read: “On 15 August 1942                              [the Catholics] will start the catechization [i.e., teaching of Church dogma preparatory to                          conversion] of circa 800 Jews, of whom 250 are Hungarian Jews.” The Roman Catholic                             65 Church in Bucharest shortened the time that converts were required to learn catechisms, from                            100 days to 45 days, out of fear that the converts would be deported at any time. In February                                      1943, the ban on conversion of Jews was lifted, and the Roman Catholic Church was granted                                permission to convert Jews. Following the March 1941 decree that forbade conversion, the                          consequences were different for those who converted to Catholicism versus those who converted                          to Protestant Christianity. Protestant converts were generally deported after breaking the law, but                          Catholic converts were used as political leverage between Romania and the other Allied nations.                              66 63  Popa, pp. 39, 40, 43  64  Popa, I. "Sanctuary from the Holocaust? Roman Catholic Conversion of Jews in Bucharest, Romania,  1942." ​Holocaust and Genocide Studies 29.1 (2015): 39­56. Web.(p. 45).   65   Popa, p. 47   66  Popa, pp. 49­ 50