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All about Humidity and Comfort
‫عالقتها‬ ‫و‬ ‫الرطوبة‬ ‫عن‬ ‫معرفته‬ ‫تريد‬ ‫ما‬ ‫كل‬
‫بالراحة‬
Step-by-Step for Diagnosing of Condensation
of High Humidity & Rectification
‫مهمة؟‬ ‫الرطوبة‬ ‫لماذا‬Why Humidity
Matter?
‫نقضى‬ ‫ألننا‬80%‫فى‬ ‫حياتنا‬ ‫من‬
‫مستوى‬ ‫فإن‬ ‫المغلقة‬ ‫األماكن‬
‫لص‬ ‫جدا‬ ‫مهمة‬ ‫النسبية‬ ‫الرطوبة‬‫حة‬
‫حياتنا‬.
Relative humidity is an
important parameter for
human comfort since: we
spend in average 80% of
our life indoor.
‫الرطوبة؟‬ ‫هي‬ ‫ما‬What’s Humidity?
Humidity-Simply: the amount
of water vapor in the air
‫بإختصار‬ ‫الرطوبة‬:‫ف‬ ‫الماء‬ ‫بخار‬ ‫كمية‬‫ى‬
‫الهواء‬
‫علينا؟‬ ‫الرطوبة‬ ‫تؤثر‬ ‫كيف‬
How Does Humidity Affect Us?
Humidity is important for our comfort and our health.
Humidity has been linked to sleepiness, lethargy, lack of
observations, lower observation skills and irritability.
It is what gives you that horrible sticky feeling on a hot day
and can cause heat stroke
‫علينا؟‬ ‫الرطوبة‬ ‫تؤثر‬ ‫كيف‬
How Does Humidity Affect Us?
Humidity is important for our comfort and our health.
Humidity has been linked to sleepiness, lethargy, lack of
observations, lower observation skills and irritability.
It is what gives you that horrible sticky feeling on a hot day
and can cause heat stroke
‫مرتفع‬/‫الرطوبة‬ ‫مستوى‬ ‫منخفض‬:‫البك‬ ‫لنمو‬ ‫مالئمة‬ ‫بيئة‬‫تيريا‬
Too Low/High Humidity–Dust, Dust Mites,
Pollen, Viruses, and Bacteria.
‫الرطوبة‬ ‫على‬ ‫السيطرة‬
‫بمستوى‬ ‫الداخل‬ ‫فى‬
30%-60%
Maintain Indoor
Humidity Levels
between 30% to
60%
‫المطلوبة‬ ‫الراحة‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫لتحقيق‬ ‫التحديات‬
Challenges toward Achieve Comfort
G.
Role
‫قاعدة‬
‫عامة‬
‫علينا؟‬ ‫الرطوبة‬ ‫تؤثر‬ ‫كيف‬
How Does Humidity Affect Us?
little humidity can dry out and damage furniture. In
contrast, too much humidity can cause moisture stains,
condensation, swelling, and mold.
‫علينا؟‬ ‫الرطوبة‬ ‫تؤثر‬ ‫كيف‬
How Does Humidity Affect Us?
High humidity
case
condensation
with air and
light, Mold
and Fungus
will grow
‫مستوى‬ ‫إرتفاع‬
‫تكثف‬ ‫و‬ ‫الرطوبة‬
‫سط‬ ‫على‬ ‫قطراته‬‫ح‬
‫و‬ ‫الهواء‬ ‫حول‬
‫ضو‬ ‫عليه‬ ‫يسقط‬‫ء‬,
‫ب‬ ‫يمثل‬ ‫ذلك‬ ‫فإن‬‫يئة‬
‫العف‬ ‫لنمو‬ ‫مثالية‬‫ن‬.
‫العفن؟‬ ‫ينمو‬ ‫كيف‬How Mold Grow?
. It's the Indoors we are concerned
with. Mold growth should be
avoided. Problems may arise when
mold starts eating away at
materials, affecting the look, smell,
and possibly wood-framed
buildings, affecting the structural
integrity of the buildings. Molds
can grow on virtually any
substance, as long as moisture or
water, oxygen, and an organic
source are present. Molds
reproduce by creating tiny spores
(viable seeds) that usually cannot
be seen without magnification.
•‫عنده‬‫عل‬ ‫لتأثر‬ ‫العفونة‬ ‫تنبت‬‫ى‬
‫الجب‬ ‫وديكورات‬ ‫الخشبية‬ ‫المواد‬‫س‬
‫حتى‬ ‫البيت‬ ‫موجودات‬ ‫وكافة‬
‫المالبس‬.
•‫وتص‬ ‫عليه‬ ‫تنمو‬ ‫ما‬ ‫كل‬ ‫فتفسد‬‫در‬
‫أمراضا‬ ‫وتسبب‬ ‫كريه‬ ‫روائح‬
‫مختلفة‬.
•‫سرعان‬ ‫فهي‬ ‫بالنمو‬ ‫تبدأ‬ ‫وعندما‬‫ما‬
‫أرج‬ ‫كافة‬ ‫فى‬ ‫باإلنتشار‬ ‫تبدأ‬‫اء‬
‫ترى‬ ‫ال‬ ‫بذور‬ ‫خالل‬ ‫من‬ ‫البيت‬
‫المجردة‬ ‫بالعين‬.
‫العفونة؟‬ ‫تكون‬Mold Formation?
‫عفونة‬:‫الهواء‬ ‫فتحات‬
Moldy: Air Diffusers
‫عفونة‬:‫المستعــــــــار‬ ‫السقف‬
Moldy: False Ceiling
‫عفونة‬:‫الحوائط‬Moldy: Walls
‫عفونة‬:‫الخـــــشبيات‬‫والخزائن‬
Moldy: Wooden- Cabinets
‫عفونة‬:‫الفراغات‬ ‫بين‬
Moldy: Intersection Gabs
‫عفونة‬:‫الباردة‬ ‫مياه‬ ‫أنابيب‬
Moldy: Chilled Water Pipes
‫أوجه‬‫عن‬ ‫تعبر‬ ‫متعددة‬‫الرطوبة‬
Various ways of expressing humidity
‫الرطوبة‬
Humidity
‫المحددة‬ ‫الرطوبة‬
Specific humidity
‫المحددة‬ ‫الرطوبة‬:‫الماء‬ ‫بخار‬ ‫جرامات‬ ‫عدد‬
‫الهواء‬ ‫من‬ ‫كيلوجرام‬ ‫كل‬ ‫فى‬.
‫الح‬ ‫تغير‬ ‫مهما‬ ‫تتغير‬ ‫ال‬ ‫المحددة‬ ‫الرطوبة‬‫يز‬
‫عندما‬ ‫الهواء‬ ‫كيلوجرام‬ ‫حجم‬ ‫يشغله‬ ‫الذى‬
‫حرارته‬ ‫درجة‬ ‫تتغير‬
Specific humidity ( g of
vapour/kg. of air)– measures
the water vapour content of the
air using mass of water for a
given mass of air.
Specific humidity doesn’t change
as the air parcel expands or is
compressed.
Specific Humidity:
actual quantity of
water held by a
parcel of air
‫المحددة‬ ‫الرطوبة‬
Specific humidity
‫المحددة‬ ‫الرطوبة‬ ‫عن‬ ‫عامة‬ ‫معلومات‬
‫يلي‬ ‫كما‬:
• Grams of water vapor per
kilogram of air (g/kg)
• Grain of water per Litter of
air (g/ltr)
• Highest in equatorial zones
• Lowest near poles
‫الخليط‬ ‫تشبع‬ ‫درجة‬
Saturation mixing ratio
Saturation mixing ratio - refers to
the mass of water vapour that can
held in a kilogram of dry air at
saturation. Saturation can be
generally defined as the condition
of liquid water or the deposition of
ice at a given temperature and
pressure.
‫الهواء‬ ‫حرارة‬ ‫درجة‬ ‫على‬ ‫تعتمد‬ ‫حملها‬ ‫للهواء‬ ‫يمكن‬ ‫التى‬ ‫القصوى‬ ‫الكمية‬
The maximum quantity of moisture that can be held in the air depends on air temperature
‫الرطوبة‬‫النسبية‬
Relative humidity
Relative humidity – the most
commonly used to measure
humidity.
It is the amount of water in the air
relative to the saturation amount
the air can hold at a given
temperature multiplied by 100.
‫الهواء‬ ‫حرارة‬ ‫درجة‬ ‫إرتفاع‬ ‫حالة‬ ‫فى‬ ‫منخفضة‬ ‫النسبية‬ ‫الرطوبة‬ ‫تبدو‬ ‫محددة‬ ‫رطوبة‬ ‫لمستوى‬,‫الهواء‬ ‫تبريد‬ ‫عند‬ ‫وتزداد‬
For Specific Humidity: RH% decreases when air is heated, while it will increase when cold
‫الرطوبة‬‫النسبية‬
Relative humidity
‫الرطوبة‬ ‫عن‬ ‫عامة‬ ‫معلومات‬‫النسبية‬
‫يلي‬ ‫كما‬:
• Relative Humidity: compares the
amount of water vapor present in
the air to the maximum amount
that the air can hold at that
temperature
• Expressed as a percentage:
• At 100% relative humidity, air is
saturated.
‫لنسبة‬ ‫النسبية‬ ‫الرطوبة‬ ‫لتصل‬ ‫تبريده‬ ‫يمكن‬ ‫الهواء‬ ‫فى‬ ‫المحددة‬ ‫المياه‬ ‫كمية‬ ‫لتقليل‬100%
To reduce the specific humidity (gr/kg.air) possible by cooling the air for RH% to reach 100%
‫النسبية‬ ‫الرطوبة‬
Relative humidity
‫بالتبريد‬‫لنسبة‬ ‫لتصل‬ ‫النسبية‬ ‫تزدادالرطوبة‬100%‫المحددة‬ ‫الرطوبة‬ ‫عندها‬ ‫لتقل‬ ‫المياه‬ ‫تكثف‬ ‫تبردأ‬ ‫عندها‬(‫المهندس‬ ‫هدف‬)
Cooling will increase RH% upto 100% then condensation happens to decrease specific humidity (gr/kg.air) –The Engineer Target.
‫النسبية‬ ‫الرطوبة‬ ‫لمعضلة‬ ‫التوضيح‬ ‫من‬ ‫مزيد‬
Understanding Relative humidity Dilemma
@ given Temp.
‫الراحة؟‬ ‫مستوى‬Comfort Level?
comfortable relative humidity
levels range between 30% and
60% RH ambient room air
temperature, while
temperature range: 22-27’C.
‫مستوى‬‫ال‬ ‫لمستوى‬ ‫المناسبة‬ ‫الرطوبة‬‫راحة‬
‫بين‬ ‫تقدر‬30%‫إلى‬60%‫درجات‬ ‫بين‬
‫حرارة‬22-27‫سيليزية‬ ‫درجة‬.
‫الراحة؟‬ ‫مستوى‬Comfort Level?
But RH% of Range (30% to 60%) will
ensure comfort if the DB-
Temperature was between 22’-27’C
27’
C
22’
C
‫الراحة؟‬ ‫مستوى‬Comfort Level?
‫الراحة‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫فى‬ ‫تؤثر‬ ‫إضافية‬ ‫عوامل‬
Factors affecting Thermal Comfort
Condensing
Heating
Fresh Air
Filtration
RH%
Cooling
Air
Distribution
‫التكييف‬ ‫وظائف‬
A/C Functions
Noise
G.
Role
‫قاعدة‬
‫عامة‬
‫التحدى‬:‫التكثف؟‬ ‫نمنع‬ ‫كيف‬
The Challenge is: to prevent Condensation
G.
Role
‫قاعدة‬
‫عامة‬
‫بفهم‬ ‫المفتاح‬:‫التشبع‬ ‫نقطة‬
Key to understand: Dew Point
Dew point is the temperature to
which air must be cooled to
become saturated with water
vapor. When further cooled, the
airborne water vapor
will condense to form liquid water
(dew). When air cools to its dew
point through contact with a
surface that is colder than the air,
water will condense on the
surface. Dew point is sometimes
called frost point when the
temperature is below freezing.
The measurement of dew
point is related to humidity.
A higher dew point means
there will be more moisture
in the air.
G.
Role
‫قاعدة‬
‫عامة‬
‫لـ‬ ‫المفتاح‬:‫التكثف‬ ‫منع‬
Key to: Prevent Condensation
Prevent hot air from
blowing on cold surfaces.
Prevent cold air from
blowing on hot surfaces.
G.
Role
‫قاعدة‬
‫عامة‬
‫لـ‬ ‫المفتاح‬:‫التكثف‬ ‫منع‬
Key to: Prevent Condensation
The greater
the different
in
temperature
the more
likely to
condensate.
G.
Role
‫قاعدة‬
‫عامة‬
‫الرطوبة؟‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫نقيس‬ ‫كيف‬
How to Measure Humidity?
Loggers
‫ل‬ ‫مصاحبة‬ ‫مشاكل‬‫منظومة‬‫المعتادة‬ ‫التكييف‬
Standard HVAC Sys.–Common Problems
‫يؤثر‬ ‫العازل‬Insulation Matter
ASHRAE STD 90.1-2010
FLUID
5’C
SURFACE
AMBIENT
25’C @
50%RH
INSULATION
1.5” 1”
‫يؤثر‬ ‫العازل‬Insulation Matter
ASHRAE STD 90.1-2010
FLUID
5’C
SURFACE
AMBIENT
30’C @
50%RH
INSULATION
1.5” 1”
‫يؤثر‬ ‫العازل‬Insulation Matter
ASHRAE STD 90.1-2010
FLUID
5’C
SURFACE
AMBIENT
25’C @
70%RH
INSULATION
1.5” 1”
‫يؤثر‬ ‫العازل‬Insulation Matter
ASHRAE STD 90.1-2010
FLUID
5’C
SURFACE
AMBIENT
25’C @
50%RH
INSULATION
1.5” 1/2”
‫العازل‬ ‫إختيار‬ ‫عند‬ ‫مليا‬ ‫التفكير‬ ‫يجب‬
Think Twice when selecting insulation
G.
Role
‫قاعدة‬
‫عامة‬
40
Control
Signal:
0-10 V DC
Flow: 1.5 gpm/TR
Pressure: 3 Bar
EWT: 6’C
LWT: 14’C
DT: 8’C
Temp.: 12.7’C
RH%:94.6%
DB: 12.2’C
W.: 8.6 g/kg
Dp: 11.9’C
Return
Air
Temp.: 23’C
RH%:55%
WB: 16.9’C
W.: 9.6 g/kg
Dp: 13.5’C
‫تعمل‬ ‫التكييف‬ ‫وحدة‬:‫للرطو‬ ‫تكثف‬ ‫ال‬‫بة‬
FCU Working: No Condensation
41
Control
Signal:
0-10 V DC
Flow: 1.5 gpm/TR
Pressure: 3 Bar
EWT: 6’C
LWT: 14’C
DT: 8’C
Temp.: 12.7’C
RH%:94.6%
DB: 12.2’C
W.: 8.6 g/kg
Dp: 11.9’C
Return
Air
Temp.: 23’C
RH%:55%
WB: 16.9’C
W.: 9.6 g/kg
Dp: 13.5’C
‫توقف‬‫المياه‬/‫الهواء‬ ‫تدفق‬:‫على‬ ‫تكثف‬‫الجريل‬
Water Stop/ Air Flow Blowing:
Condensation on grill
42
Control
Signal:
0-10 V DC
Flow: 1.5 gpm/TR
Pressure: 3 Bar
EWT: 6’C
LWT: 14’C
DT: 8’C
Return
Air
Temp.: 23’C
RH%:55%
WB: 16.9’C
W.: 9.6 g/kg
Dp: 13.5’C
‫الهواء‬ ‫توقف‬/‫المياه‬ ‫تدفق‬:‫األناب‬ ‫على‬ ‫تكثف‬‫يب‬
Air Flow Stop/Water Following:
Condensation on pipes
‫بالنداوة‬ ‫التحكم‬‫و‬‫إيقاف‬
‫يمنع‬ ‫الرطوبة‬ ‫تكثف‬
‫تكون‬‫العفونة‬
Moisture Control &
Stop Condensation
to Prevent Mold
Growth
‫المطلوبة‬ ‫الراحة‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫لتحقيق‬ ‫التحديات‬
Challenges toward Achieve Comfort
G.
Role
‫قاعدة‬
‫عامة‬
44
EWT: 6’C
LWT: 14’C
DT: 8’C
Return
Air
Temp.: 23’C
RH%:55%
WB: 16.9’C
W.: 9.6 g/kg
Dp: 13.5’C
‫تجديد‬ ‫هواء‬‫دافئ‬:‫األسطح‬ ‫على‬ ‫تكثف‬‫الباردة‬
Warm FA: Condensation on Cold Surface
Fresh
Air Duct
25’C
60%RH
Dp:17’C
45
EWT: 6’C
LWT: 14’C
DT: 8’C
Return
Air
Temp.: 23’C
RH%:55%
WB: 16.9’C
W.: 9.6 g/kg
Dp: 13.5’C
‫بارد‬ ‫تجديد‬ ‫هواء‬:‫الدافئة‬ ‫األسطح‬ ‫على‬ ‫تكثف‬
Cold FA: Condensation on Warm Surface
Fresh
Air Duct
15’C
80%RH
Dp:12’C
‫الهواء‬ ‫تضخ‬ ‫ال‬
‫فوق‬ ‫المعالج‬ ‫الخارجى‬
‫المستعار‬ ‫السقف‬.
‫فق‬ ‫بارد‬ ‫أنه‬ ‫حالة‬ ‫فى‬‫د‬
‫دافئ‬ ‫سطح‬ ‫يالقى‬
‫فيتكثف‬.
‫فق‬ ‫دافئ‬ ‫أنه‬ ‫حالة‬ ‫فى‬‫د‬
‫بارد‬ ‫سطح‬ ‫يالقى‬
‫فيتكثف‬
Never pump
treated FA above
the ceiling.
If cooled and
touch hot service
it’ll condensate
If warm and touch
cold service it’ll
condensate.
‫المطلوبة‬ ‫الراحة‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫لتحقيق‬ ‫التحديات‬
Challenges toward Achieve Comfort
G.
Role
‫قاعدة‬
‫عامة‬
‫التكييف‬ ‫منظومة‬‫المعتادة‬:‫منحفض‬ ‫ضغط‬ ‫تكون‬
Standard HVAC System: Create (-) Press.
DB=
115
46’C
WB=
85’F
29.5
RH%
30%
DP=
77’F
25’C
FCU
22’C
72’F
15’C
59’F
‫ضغط‬ ‫تكوين‬ ‫ضمان‬
‫داخل‬ ‫فى‬ ‫موجب‬
‫الهوا‬ ‫ومعالجة‬ ‫المبنى‬‫ء‬
‫بتنشيفه‬ ‫الخارجى‬‫عن‬
‫تجديد‬ ‫وحدة‬ ‫طريق‬
‫الهواء‬.
Ensure positive
pressure indoor
compare to
outdoor and
dehumidify fresh
air before blowing
‫المطلوبة‬ ‫الراحة‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫لتحقيق‬ ‫التحديات‬
Challenges toward Achieve Comfort
G.
Role
‫قاعدة‬
‫عامة‬
‫تكون‬‫ضغط‬‫للد‬ ‫الخارجى‬ ‫الهواء‬ ‫يتسرب‬ ‫منحفض‬‫اخل‬
(-) Press.: Outdoor Air Infiltrate inside
DB=
115
46’C
WB=
85’F
29.5
RH%
30%
DP=
77’F
25’C
FCU
22’C
72’F
15’C
59’F
‫التكثف‬ ‫سيحدث‬
Condensation Will
Happen
‫المطلوبة‬ ‫الراحة‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫لتحقيق‬ ‫التحديات‬
Challenges toward Achieve Comfort
‫مستوى‬ ‫تحقيق‬
‫الرطوب‬ ‫من‬ ‫مقبول‬‫ة‬
‫السه‬ ‫باألمر‬ ‫ليس‬‫ل‬,
‫أو‬ ‫إرتفاع‬ ‫ألن‬
‫مستوى‬ ‫إنخفاض‬
‫أن‬ ‫ممكن‬ ‫الرطوبة‬
‫مستوى‬ ‫من‬ ‫يقلل‬
‫حتى‬ ‫و‬ ‫الراحة‬
‫بأضرا‬ ‫التسبب‬‫ر‬
‫صحية‬
Achieving a
good level of
humidity is
ideal because
too little or
too much can
be
uncomfortable
and even
harmful.
‫األعراض‬ ‫معالجة‬
Symptomatic Solutions
•‫المتعفنة‬ ‫األماكن‬ ‫دهان‬
•‫الخشبيات‬ ‫استبدال‬
•‫العوازل‬ ‫تغير‬
•‫الديكو‬ ‫بالطات‬ ‫بديل‬‫ر‬
•‫تكي‬ ‫فتحات‬ ‫تنشيف‬‫يف‬
•‫كربو‬ ‫فالتر‬ ‫تركيب‬‫ن‬
•‫تكثثف‬ ‫جهاز‬ ‫تركيب‬
‫رطوبة‬
•‫قوة‬ ‫زيادة‬‫التبريد‬
• Repaint infected
walls
• Replace wooden
• Re-insulate
Duct/Pipe
• Dry A/C Grills
• Fix Carbon Filters
• Fix Dehumidifier
Increase Cooling
Capabilities
‫األعراض‬ ‫معالجة‬
Symptomatic Solutions
‫الجذرية‬ ‫الحلول‬ ‫مقابل‬ ‫األعراض‬ ‫معالجة‬
Real Solutions vs. Symptomatic
•‫مشاكل‬ ‫سبب‬ ‫تحديد‬
‫فى‬ ‫سيساعد‬ ‫العفونة‬
‫المشكل‬ ‫على‬ ‫القضاء‬‫ة‬
‫معالجة‬ ‫بيمنا‬ ‫نهائيا‬
‫توقف‬ ‫لن‬ ‫الظواهر‬
‫العفن‬ ‫الزحم‬.
•‫التنق‬ ‫و‬ ‫بالبحث‬ ‫إبدأ‬‫يب‬
‫الحقيقي‬ ‫األسباب‬ ‫عن‬‫ة‬
‫للعفون‬ ‫تتيح‬ ‫التى‬‫ة‬
‫و‬ ‫للنمو‬ ‫مناسبة‬ ‫أجواء‬
‫التكاثر؟؟؟‬
Identification of the
Root Causative
Factor usually
leads to permit
Solution.
Begin with
investigation to
determine the
source of
contamination &
reasons of
problem
‫المطلوبة‬ ‫الراحة‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫لتحقيق‬ ‫التحديات‬
Challenges toward Achieve Comfort
General
Role
‫قاعدة‬
‫عامة‬
‫التـحــــــــــــــــــــــــــديات‬
‫المطلوبة‬ ‫الراحة‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫لتحقيق‬ ‫التحديات‬
Challenges toward Achieve Comfort
22
60
%
‫المنشودة‬ ‫البرزدة‬ ‫درجة‬ ‫تخقيق‬ ‫من‬ ‫بالرغم‬ ‫مرتفع‬ ‫الرطوبة‬ ‫معدل‬
RH% Level is High, even desired Temp. is achieved
‫المطلوبة‬ ‫الراحة‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫لتحقيق‬ ‫التحديات‬
Challenges toward Achieve Comfort
FCU
FAHU
DB=115-46’C
WB=85’F-29.5
RH%=30%
DP=77’F-25’C
22
DB=77-25’C
RH%=50%
‫المطلوبة‬ ‫الراحة‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫لتحقيق‬ ‫التحديات‬
Challenges toward Achieve Comfort
22
80-85’F
Dew Point:
55-40’F
RH= 50%
FCU
FAHU
DB=115-46’C
WB=85’F-29.5
RH%=30%
DP=77’F-25’C
‫المطلوبة‬ ‫الراحة‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫لتحقيق‬ ‫التحديات‬
Challenges toward Achieve Comfort
22
60
%
‫التجديد‬ ‫وحدة‬ ‫من‬ ‫وصلة‬ ‫مع‬ ‫الهواء‬ ‫تدوير‬ ‫وحدة‬
AHU with FA Branch from FAHU
‫تركيب‬
‫مثالى‬
Ideal
•‫احتواء‬
‫مصادر‬
‫تركز‬
‫الرطوبة‬
‫وشفطها‬
‫للخارج‬.
Contain
indoor
humidity
and
moisture-
generating
sources and
vent it to the
outside.
‫المطلوبة‬ ‫الراحة‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫لتحقيق‬ ‫التحديات‬
Challenges toward Achieve Comfort
G.
Role
‫قاعدة‬
‫عامة‬
‫المطلوبة‬ ‫الراحة‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫لتحقيق‬ ‫التحديات‬
Challenges toward Achieve Comfort
G.
Role
‫قاعدة‬
‫عامة‬
‫المروحة‬ ‫تشغيل‬ ‫ربط‬ ‫طريق‬ ‫عن‬
‫رطوبة‬ ‫بمجس‬
‫المروحة‬ ‫تشغيل‬ ‫ربط‬ ‫طريق‬ ‫عن‬
‫حركة‬ ‫بمجس‬
By connecting Fan to Humidity
Sensor
Or by connecting to Occupancy
Sensor
‫الحاجة‬ ‫عند‬ ‫شغل‬
Start when
needed
‫عدد‬ ‫زاد‬ ‫كلما‬
‫ملفات‬ ‫صفوف‬
‫زاد‬ ‫التبريد‬
‫الهواء‬ ‫إحتكاك‬
‫التبريد‬ ‫بأسطح‬
‫من‬ ‫يزيد‬ ‫مما‬
‫الرطوبة‬ ‫تكثف‬
More
Coils
Means
More
Condensat-
‫المطلوبة‬ ‫الراحة‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫لتحقيق‬ ‫التحديات‬
Challenges toward Achieve Comfort
G.
Role
‫قاعدة‬
‫عامة‬
‫يستمرتكث‬ ‫أن‬ ‫يجب‬‫يف‬
‫لو‬ ‫حتى‬ ‫الرطوبة‬
‫لمزيد‬ ‫الحاجة‬ ‫توقفت‬
‫التبريد‬ ‫من‬
Since
dehumidification is
continues process
that stop when
thermostat reach
desire temp. for that
we have to avoid
over design &
selection to
maximize cooling
process.
‫المطلوبة‬ ‫الراحة‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫لتحقيق‬ ‫التحديات‬
Challenges toward Achieve Comfort
G.
Role
‫قاعدة‬
‫عامة‬
‫المطلوبة‬ ‫الراحة‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫لتحقيق‬ ‫التحديات‬
Challenges toward Achieve Comfort
‫غالبية‬ ‫وأن‬ ‫خاصة‬
‫ال‬ ‫تفوق‬ ‫المكيفات‬‫سعة‬
‫آنيا‬ ‫المطلوبة‬
Since A/C unit
selection is usually
larger than design
that was calculated
peak load.
For that we must
utilize the control to
perform according to
actual demand to
extend cooling
process and continue
the dehumidification.
G.
Role
‫قاعدة‬
‫عامة‬
‫الثرموستات‬ ‫نوعي‬ ‫مواصفات‬ ‫مقارنة‬
Features Comparison both Thermostats
• Analog Set Temp
• No Room Temp
• Manual Fan Speed
• Digital Set Temp
• Room Temp
• Auto Fan Speed
Control
‫الثرموستات‬ ‫نوعي‬ ‫مواصفات‬ ‫مقارنة‬
Features Comparison both Thermostats
In case of Analog
Thermostat: user doesn't
have the room temp as a
reference to wisely select
the comfort temperature
In case of Digital
Thermostat: user can
remember his suitable
room temperature every
time & control it any time.
‫الديجيتال‬ ‫أجــــواء‬ ‫منظــــم‬
Digital Climate Thermostat
‫الداخليـــة‬ ‫الرطوبــة‬ ‫مستوي‬ ‫لتقليل‬
To control Internal Humidity Level
22
‫الديجيتال‬ ‫أجــــواء‬ ‫منظــــم‬
Digital Climate Thermostat
This is done by:
The indoor fan speed will be
adjusted automatically
according to the
difference between the
room & the setting
temperatures DT:
•‫طريق‬ ‫عن‬::
•‫المروحة‬ ‫سرعة‬ ‫تبديل‬
‫بن‬ ‫أوتوماتيكيا‬ ‫الداخلية‬‫اءا‬
‫درجة‬ ‫بين‬ ‫الفرق‬ ‫علي‬
‫وحرارة‬ ‫المنظم‬ ‫ضبط‬
‫الغرفة‬
Fan Speed DT ‫المروحة‬ ‫سرعة‬
High >= 3 ‫عالية‬
Medium >= 2 ‫متوسطة‬
Low >= 1 ‫منخفضة‬
Off < 1 ‫صفر‬
‫الثرموستات‬ ‫نوعي‬ ‫مواصفات‬ ‫مقارنة‬
Features Comparison both Thermostats
• ‫عادى‬ ‫ثرموستات‬
• Ordinary Thermostat
• ‫أجــــواء‬ ‫منظــــم‬‫الديجيتال‬
Digital Climate
Thermostat
‫الهواء‬ ‫تجديد‬ ‫وحدات‬
FAHU: Fresh Air Handling Units
‫الهواء‬ ‫تجديد‬ ‫وحدة‬:‫الرئيسية‬ ‫التحكم‬ ‫لوحة‬
FAHU: Central Controller Panel
‫الحال‬ ‫يظهر‬ ‫وفيها‬ ‫الرئيسية‬ ‫التحكم‬ ‫لوحة‬‫ة‬
‫المتصلة‬ ‫األجهزة‬ ‫لكافة‬ ‫التشغيلية‬‫بوحد‬‫ة‬
‫الهواء‬ ‫تجديد‬,‫التشغيل‬ ‫ومفاتييح‬.
• Central Control Panel that
consists all related controllers
and relays of FAHU, also
displays, indicator lamps and
selector switches.
‫التحكم‬ ‫منظومة‬ ‫ملحقات‬:‫ومفاتيح‬ ‫مجسات‬
Central Controller: Sensors & Switches
‫المطلوبة‬ ‫الراحة‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫لتحقيق‬ ‫التحديات‬
Challenges toward Achieve Comfort
G.
Role
‫قاعدة‬
‫عامة‬
‫وقائية‬ ‫خطوات‬Preventive Measures -
•‫لمنع‬ ‫الشقوق‬ ‫إغالق‬ ‫أحكم‬
‫الخارجى‬ ‫الهواء‬ ‫تخلل‬.
•‫الوحدات‬ ‫تعقيم‬ ‫و‬ ‫تنظيف‬
‫الداخلية‬.
•‫و‬ ‫فعالية‬ ‫أكثر‬ ‫فالتر‬ ‫ركب‬
‫نظافتها‬ ‫على‬ ‫حافظ‬.
•‫م‬ ‫وتأكد‬ ‫الشفط‬ ‫مراوج‬ ‫أصلح‬‫ن‬
‫المسحوب‬ ‫الهواء‬ ‫كمية‬
•‫الهواء‬ ‫بكمية‬ ‫قارن‬‫المجدد‬
• Sealed return plenum
from outdoors.
• Cleaned & sanitized
coil & AHU.
• Installed efficient
filters and keep it
clean.
• Repaired exhaust fan
& test quantity.
• Compare to Fresh Air
intake quantity.
‫ال‬‫تبريد‬‫هذه‬ ‫بعد‬ ‫مضمون‬‫التعديالت‬..‫للمال‬ ‫هدر‬ ‫بدون‬/‫الطاقة‬
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Without Money/Energy Wastage
Thank you! Looking forward to serve-U better
Eng. Juma Yousef Juma
CEO & Business Development Manager,
Getco Green Earth Technology Co. & Al-
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All about humidity and comfort by eng. juma yousef juma getco

  • 1. All about Humidity and Comfort ‫عالقتها‬ ‫و‬ ‫الرطوبة‬ ‫عن‬ ‫معرفته‬ ‫تريد‬ ‫ما‬ ‫كل‬ ‫بالراحة‬ Step-by-Step for Diagnosing of Condensation of High Humidity & Rectification
  • 2. ‫مهمة؟‬ ‫الرطوبة‬ ‫لماذا‬Why Humidity Matter? ‫نقضى‬ ‫ألننا‬80%‫فى‬ ‫حياتنا‬ ‫من‬ ‫مستوى‬ ‫فإن‬ ‫المغلقة‬ ‫األماكن‬ ‫لص‬ ‫جدا‬ ‫مهمة‬ ‫النسبية‬ ‫الرطوبة‬‫حة‬ ‫حياتنا‬. Relative humidity is an important parameter for human comfort since: we spend in average 80% of our life indoor.
  • 3. ‫الرطوبة؟‬ ‫هي‬ ‫ما‬What’s Humidity? Humidity-Simply: the amount of water vapor in the air ‫بإختصار‬ ‫الرطوبة‬:‫ف‬ ‫الماء‬ ‫بخار‬ ‫كمية‬‫ى‬ ‫الهواء‬
  • 4. ‫علينا؟‬ ‫الرطوبة‬ ‫تؤثر‬ ‫كيف‬ How Does Humidity Affect Us? Humidity is important for our comfort and our health. Humidity has been linked to sleepiness, lethargy, lack of observations, lower observation skills and irritability. It is what gives you that horrible sticky feeling on a hot day and can cause heat stroke
  • 5. ‫علينا؟‬ ‫الرطوبة‬ ‫تؤثر‬ ‫كيف‬ How Does Humidity Affect Us? Humidity is important for our comfort and our health. Humidity has been linked to sleepiness, lethargy, lack of observations, lower observation skills and irritability. It is what gives you that horrible sticky feeling on a hot day and can cause heat stroke
  • 6. ‫مرتفع‬/‫الرطوبة‬ ‫مستوى‬ ‫منخفض‬:‫البك‬ ‫لنمو‬ ‫مالئمة‬ ‫بيئة‬‫تيريا‬ Too Low/High Humidity–Dust, Dust Mites, Pollen, Viruses, and Bacteria.
  • 7. ‫الرطوبة‬ ‫على‬ ‫السيطرة‬ ‫بمستوى‬ ‫الداخل‬ ‫فى‬ 30%-60% Maintain Indoor Humidity Levels between 30% to 60% ‫المطلوبة‬ ‫الراحة‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫لتحقيق‬ ‫التحديات‬ Challenges toward Achieve Comfort G. Role ‫قاعدة‬ ‫عامة‬
  • 8. ‫علينا؟‬ ‫الرطوبة‬ ‫تؤثر‬ ‫كيف‬ How Does Humidity Affect Us? little humidity can dry out and damage furniture. In contrast, too much humidity can cause moisture stains, condensation, swelling, and mold.
  • 9. ‫علينا؟‬ ‫الرطوبة‬ ‫تؤثر‬ ‫كيف‬ How Does Humidity Affect Us? High humidity case condensation with air and light, Mold and Fungus will grow ‫مستوى‬ ‫إرتفاع‬ ‫تكثف‬ ‫و‬ ‫الرطوبة‬ ‫سط‬ ‫على‬ ‫قطراته‬‫ح‬ ‫و‬ ‫الهواء‬ ‫حول‬ ‫ضو‬ ‫عليه‬ ‫يسقط‬‫ء‬, ‫ب‬ ‫يمثل‬ ‫ذلك‬ ‫فإن‬‫يئة‬ ‫العف‬ ‫لنمو‬ ‫مثالية‬‫ن‬.
  • 10. ‫العفن؟‬ ‫ينمو‬ ‫كيف‬How Mold Grow? . It's the Indoors we are concerned with. Mold growth should be avoided. Problems may arise when mold starts eating away at materials, affecting the look, smell, and possibly wood-framed buildings, affecting the structural integrity of the buildings. Molds can grow on virtually any substance, as long as moisture or water, oxygen, and an organic source are present. Molds reproduce by creating tiny spores (viable seeds) that usually cannot be seen without magnification. •‫عنده‬‫عل‬ ‫لتأثر‬ ‫العفونة‬ ‫تنبت‬‫ى‬ ‫الجب‬ ‫وديكورات‬ ‫الخشبية‬ ‫المواد‬‫س‬ ‫حتى‬ ‫البيت‬ ‫موجودات‬ ‫وكافة‬ ‫المالبس‬. •‫وتص‬ ‫عليه‬ ‫تنمو‬ ‫ما‬ ‫كل‬ ‫فتفسد‬‫در‬ ‫أمراضا‬ ‫وتسبب‬ ‫كريه‬ ‫روائح‬ ‫مختلفة‬. •‫سرعان‬ ‫فهي‬ ‫بالنمو‬ ‫تبدأ‬ ‫وعندما‬‫ما‬ ‫أرج‬ ‫كافة‬ ‫فى‬ ‫باإلنتشار‬ ‫تبدأ‬‫اء‬ ‫ترى‬ ‫ال‬ ‫بذور‬ ‫خالل‬ ‫من‬ ‫البيت‬ ‫المجردة‬ ‫بالعين‬. ‫العفونة؟‬ ‫تكون‬Mold Formation?
  • 17. ‫أوجه‬‫عن‬ ‫تعبر‬ ‫متعددة‬‫الرطوبة‬ Various ways of expressing humidity ‫الرطوبة‬ Humidity
  • 18. ‫المحددة‬ ‫الرطوبة‬ Specific humidity ‫المحددة‬ ‫الرطوبة‬:‫الماء‬ ‫بخار‬ ‫جرامات‬ ‫عدد‬ ‫الهواء‬ ‫من‬ ‫كيلوجرام‬ ‫كل‬ ‫فى‬. ‫الح‬ ‫تغير‬ ‫مهما‬ ‫تتغير‬ ‫ال‬ ‫المحددة‬ ‫الرطوبة‬‫يز‬ ‫عندما‬ ‫الهواء‬ ‫كيلوجرام‬ ‫حجم‬ ‫يشغله‬ ‫الذى‬ ‫حرارته‬ ‫درجة‬ ‫تتغير‬ Specific humidity ( g of vapour/kg. of air)– measures the water vapour content of the air using mass of water for a given mass of air. Specific humidity doesn’t change as the air parcel expands or is compressed. Specific Humidity: actual quantity of water held by a parcel of air
  • 19. ‫المحددة‬ ‫الرطوبة‬ Specific humidity ‫المحددة‬ ‫الرطوبة‬ ‫عن‬ ‫عامة‬ ‫معلومات‬ ‫يلي‬ ‫كما‬: • Grams of water vapor per kilogram of air (g/kg) • Grain of water per Litter of air (g/ltr) • Highest in equatorial zones • Lowest near poles
  • 20. ‫الخليط‬ ‫تشبع‬ ‫درجة‬ Saturation mixing ratio Saturation mixing ratio - refers to the mass of water vapour that can held in a kilogram of dry air at saturation. Saturation can be generally defined as the condition of liquid water or the deposition of ice at a given temperature and pressure. ‫الهواء‬ ‫حرارة‬ ‫درجة‬ ‫على‬ ‫تعتمد‬ ‫حملها‬ ‫للهواء‬ ‫يمكن‬ ‫التى‬ ‫القصوى‬ ‫الكمية‬ The maximum quantity of moisture that can be held in the air depends on air temperature
  • 21. ‫الرطوبة‬‫النسبية‬ Relative humidity Relative humidity – the most commonly used to measure humidity. It is the amount of water in the air relative to the saturation amount the air can hold at a given temperature multiplied by 100. ‫الهواء‬ ‫حرارة‬ ‫درجة‬ ‫إرتفاع‬ ‫حالة‬ ‫فى‬ ‫منخفضة‬ ‫النسبية‬ ‫الرطوبة‬ ‫تبدو‬ ‫محددة‬ ‫رطوبة‬ ‫لمستوى‬,‫الهواء‬ ‫تبريد‬ ‫عند‬ ‫وتزداد‬ For Specific Humidity: RH% decreases when air is heated, while it will increase when cold
  • 22. ‫الرطوبة‬‫النسبية‬ Relative humidity ‫الرطوبة‬ ‫عن‬ ‫عامة‬ ‫معلومات‬‫النسبية‬ ‫يلي‬ ‫كما‬: • Relative Humidity: compares the amount of water vapor present in the air to the maximum amount that the air can hold at that temperature • Expressed as a percentage: • At 100% relative humidity, air is saturated. ‫لنسبة‬ ‫النسبية‬ ‫الرطوبة‬ ‫لتصل‬ ‫تبريده‬ ‫يمكن‬ ‫الهواء‬ ‫فى‬ ‫المحددة‬ ‫المياه‬ ‫كمية‬ ‫لتقليل‬100% To reduce the specific humidity (gr/kg.air) possible by cooling the air for RH% to reach 100%
  • 23. ‫النسبية‬ ‫الرطوبة‬ Relative humidity ‫بالتبريد‬‫لنسبة‬ ‫لتصل‬ ‫النسبية‬ ‫تزدادالرطوبة‬100%‫المحددة‬ ‫الرطوبة‬ ‫عندها‬ ‫لتقل‬ ‫المياه‬ ‫تكثف‬ ‫تبردأ‬ ‫عندها‬(‫المهندس‬ ‫هدف‬) Cooling will increase RH% upto 100% then condensation happens to decrease specific humidity (gr/kg.air) –The Engineer Target.
  • 24. ‫النسبية‬ ‫الرطوبة‬ ‫لمعضلة‬ ‫التوضيح‬ ‫من‬ ‫مزيد‬ Understanding Relative humidity Dilemma @ given Temp.
  • 25. ‫الراحة؟‬ ‫مستوى‬Comfort Level? comfortable relative humidity levels range between 30% and 60% RH ambient room air temperature, while temperature range: 22-27’C. ‫مستوى‬‫ال‬ ‫لمستوى‬ ‫المناسبة‬ ‫الرطوبة‬‫راحة‬ ‫بين‬ ‫تقدر‬30%‫إلى‬60%‫درجات‬ ‫بين‬ ‫حرارة‬22-27‫سيليزية‬ ‫درجة‬.
  • 26. ‫الراحة؟‬ ‫مستوى‬Comfort Level? But RH% of Range (30% to 60%) will ensure comfort if the DB- Temperature was between 22’-27’C 27’ C 22’ C
  • 28. ‫الراحة‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫فى‬ ‫تؤثر‬ ‫إضافية‬ ‫عوامل‬ Factors affecting Thermal Comfort Condensing Heating Fresh Air Filtration RH% Cooling Air Distribution ‫التكييف‬ ‫وظائف‬ A/C Functions Noise G. Role ‫قاعدة‬ ‫عامة‬
  • 29. ‫التحدى‬:‫التكثف؟‬ ‫نمنع‬ ‫كيف‬ The Challenge is: to prevent Condensation G. Role ‫قاعدة‬ ‫عامة‬
  • 30. ‫بفهم‬ ‫المفتاح‬:‫التشبع‬ ‫نقطة‬ Key to understand: Dew Point Dew point is the temperature to which air must be cooled to become saturated with water vapor. When further cooled, the airborne water vapor will condense to form liquid water (dew). When air cools to its dew point through contact with a surface that is colder than the air, water will condense on the surface. Dew point is sometimes called frost point when the temperature is below freezing. The measurement of dew point is related to humidity. A higher dew point means there will be more moisture in the air. G. Role ‫قاعدة‬ ‫عامة‬
  • 31. ‫لـ‬ ‫المفتاح‬:‫التكثف‬ ‫منع‬ Key to: Prevent Condensation Prevent hot air from blowing on cold surfaces. Prevent cold air from blowing on hot surfaces. G. Role ‫قاعدة‬ ‫عامة‬
  • 32. ‫لـ‬ ‫المفتاح‬:‫التكثف‬ ‫منع‬ Key to: Prevent Condensation The greater the different in temperature the more likely to condensate. G. Role ‫قاعدة‬ ‫عامة‬
  • 33. ‫الرطوبة؟‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫نقيس‬ ‫كيف‬ How to Measure Humidity? Loggers
  • 34. ‫ل‬ ‫مصاحبة‬ ‫مشاكل‬‫منظومة‬‫المعتادة‬ ‫التكييف‬ Standard HVAC Sys.–Common Problems
  • 35. ‫يؤثر‬ ‫العازل‬Insulation Matter ASHRAE STD 90.1-2010 FLUID 5’C SURFACE AMBIENT 25’C @ 50%RH INSULATION 1.5” 1”
  • 36. ‫يؤثر‬ ‫العازل‬Insulation Matter ASHRAE STD 90.1-2010 FLUID 5’C SURFACE AMBIENT 30’C @ 50%RH INSULATION 1.5” 1”
  • 37. ‫يؤثر‬ ‫العازل‬Insulation Matter ASHRAE STD 90.1-2010 FLUID 5’C SURFACE AMBIENT 25’C @ 70%RH INSULATION 1.5” 1”
  • 38. ‫يؤثر‬ ‫العازل‬Insulation Matter ASHRAE STD 90.1-2010 FLUID 5’C SURFACE AMBIENT 25’C @ 50%RH INSULATION 1.5” 1/2”
  • 39. ‫العازل‬ ‫إختيار‬ ‫عند‬ ‫مليا‬ ‫التفكير‬ ‫يجب‬ Think Twice when selecting insulation G. Role ‫قاعدة‬ ‫عامة‬
  • 40. 40 Control Signal: 0-10 V DC Flow: 1.5 gpm/TR Pressure: 3 Bar EWT: 6’C LWT: 14’C DT: 8’C Temp.: 12.7’C RH%:94.6% DB: 12.2’C W.: 8.6 g/kg Dp: 11.9’C Return Air Temp.: 23’C RH%:55% WB: 16.9’C W.: 9.6 g/kg Dp: 13.5’C ‫تعمل‬ ‫التكييف‬ ‫وحدة‬:‫للرطو‬ ‫تكثف‬ ‫ال‬‫بة‬ FCU Working: No Condensation
  • 41. 41 Control Signal: 0-10 V DC Flow: 1.5 gpm/TR Pressure: 3 Bar EWT: 6’C LWT: 14’C DT: 8’C Temp.: 12.7’C RH%:94.6% DB: 12.2’C W.: 8.6 g/kg Dp: 11.9’C Return Air Temp.: 23’C RH%:55% WB: 16.9’C W.: 9.6 g/kg Dp: 13.5’C ‫توقف‬‫المياه‬/‫الهواء‬ ‫تدفق‬:‫على‬ ‫تكثف‬‫الجريل‬ Water Stop/ Air Flow Blowing: Condensation on grill
  • 42. 42 Control Signal: 0-10 V DC Flow: 1.5 gpm/TR Pressure: 3 Bar EWT: 6’C LWT: 14’C DT: 8’C Return Air Temp.: 23’C RH%:55% WB: 16.9’C W.: 9.6 g/kg Dp: 13.5’C ‫الهواء‬ ‫توقف‬/‫المياه‬ ‫تدفق‬:‫األناب‬ ‫على‬ ‫تكثف‬‫يب‬ Air Flow Stop/Water Following: Condensation on pipes
  • 43. ‫بالنداوة‬ ‫التحكم‬‫و‬‫إيقاف‬ ‫يمنع‬ ‫الرطوبة‬ ‫تكثف‬ ‫تكون‬‫العفونة‬ Moisture Control & Stop Condensation to Prevent Mold Growth ‫المطلوبة‬ ‫الراحة‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫لتحقيق‬ ‫التحديات‬ Challenges toward Achieve Comfort G. Role ‫قاعدة‬ ‫عامة‬
  • 44. 44 EWT: 6’C LWT: 14’C DT: 8’C Return Air Temp.: 23’C RH%:55% WB: 16.9’C W.: 9.6 g/kg Dp: 13.5’C ‫تجديد‬ ‫هواء‬‫دافئ‬:‫األسطح‬ ‫على‬ ‫تكثف‬‫الباردة‬ Warm FA: Condensation on Cold Surface Fresh Air Duct 25’C 60%RH Dp:17’C
  • 45. 45 EWT: 6’C LWT: 14’C DT: 8’C Return Air Temp.: 23’C RH%:55% WB: 16.9’C W.: 9.6 g/kg Dp: 13.5’C ‫بارد‬ ‫تجديد‬ ‫هواء‬:‫الدافئة‬ ‫األسطح‬ ‫على‬ ‫تكثف‬ Cold FA: Condensation on Warm Surface Fresh Air Duct 15’C 80%RH Dp:12’C
  • 46. ‫الهواء‬ ‫تضخ‬ ‫ال‬ ‫فوق‬ ‫المعالج‬ ‫الخارجى‬ ‫المستعار‬ ‫السقف‬. ‫فق‬ ‫بارد‬ ‫أنه‬ ‫حالة‬ ‫فى‬‫د‬ ‫دافئ‬ ‫سطح‬ ‫يالقى‬ ‫فيتكثف‬. ‫فق‬ ‫دافئ‬ ‫أنه‬ ‫حالة‬ ‫فى‬‫د‬ ‫بارد‬ ‫سطح‬ ‫يالقى‬ ‫فيتكثف‬ Never pump treated FA above the ceiling. If cooled and touch hot service it’ll condensate If warm and touch cold service it’ll condensate. ‫المطلوبة‬ ‫الراحة‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫لتحقيق‬ ‫التحديات‬ Challenges toward Achieve Comfort G. Role ‫قاعدة‬ ‫عامة‬
  • 47. ‫التكييف‬ ‫منظومة‬‫المعتادة‬:‫منحفض‬ ‫ضغط‬ ‫تكون‬ Standard HVAC System: Create (-) Press. DB= 115 46’C WB= 85’F 29.5 RH% 30% DP= 77’F 25’C FCU 22’C 72’F 15’C 59’F
  • 48. ‫ضغط‬ ‫تكوين‬ ‫ضمان‬ ‫داخل‬ ‫فى‬ ‫موجب‬ ‫الهوا‬ ‫ومعالجة‬ ‫المبنى‬‫ء‬ ‫بتنشيفه‬ ‫الخارجى‬‫عن‬ ‫تجديد‬ ‫وحدة‬ ‫طريق‬ ‫الهواء‬. Ensure positive pressure indoor compare to outdoor and dehumidify fresh air before blowing ‫المطلوبة‬ ‫الراحة‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫لتحقيق‬ ‫التحديات‬ Challenges toward Achieve Comfort G. Role ‫قاعدة‬ ‫عامة‬
  • 49. ‫تكون‬‫ضغط‬‫للد‬ ‫الخارجى‬ ‫الهواء‬ ‫يتسرب‬ ‫منحفض‬‫اخل‬ (-) Press.: Outdoor Air Infiltrate inside DB= 115 46’C WB= 85’F 29.5 RH% 30% DP= 77’F 25’C FCU 22’C 72’F 15’C 59’F ‫التكثف‬ ‫سيحدث‬ Condensation Will Happen
  • 50. ‫المطلوبة‬ ‫الراحة‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫لتحقيق‬ ‫التحديات‬ Challenges toward Achieve Comfort ‫مستوى‬ ‫تحقيق‬ ‫الرطوب‬ ‫من‬ ‫مقبول‬‫ة‬ ‫السه‬ ‫باألمر‬ ‫ليس‬‫ل‬, ‫أو‬ ‫إرتفاع‬ ‫ألن‬ ‫مستوى‬ ‫إنخفاض‬ ‫أن‬ ‫ممكن‬ ‫الرطوبة‬ ‫مستوى‬ ‫من‬ ‫يقلل‬ ‫حتى‬ ‫و‬ ‫الراحة‬ ‫بأضرا‬ ‫التسبب‬‫ر‬ ‫صحية‬ Achieving a good level of humidity is ideal because too little or too much can be uncomfortable and even harmful.
  • 51. ‫األعراض‬ ‫معالجة‬ Symptomatic Solutions •‫المتعفنة‬ ‫األماكن‬ ‫دهان‬ •‫الخشبيات‬ ‫استبدال‬ •‫العوازل‬ ‫تغير‬ •‫الديكو‬ ‫بالطات‬ ‫بديل‬‫ر‬ •‫تكي‬ ‫فتحات‬ ‫تنشيف‬‫يف‬ •‫كربو‬ ‫فالتر‬ ‫تركيب‬‫ن‬ •‫تكثثف‬ ‫جهاز‬ ‫تركيب‬ ‫رطوبة‬ •‫قوة‬ ‫زيادة‬‫التبريد‬ • Repaint infected walls • Replace wooden • Re-insulate Duct/Pipe • Dry A/C Grills • Fix Carbon Filters • Fix Dehumidifier Increase Cooling Capabilities
  • 53. ‫الجذرية‬ ‫الحلول‬ ‫مقابل‬ ‫األعراض‬ ‫معالجة‬ Real Solutions vs. Symptomatic •‫مشاكل‬ ‫سبب‬ ‫تحديد‬ ‫فى‬ ‫سيساعد‬ ‫العفونة‬ ‫المشكل‬ ‫على‬ ‫القضاء‬‫ة‬ ‫معالجة‬ ‫بيمنا‬ ‫نهائيا‬ ‫توقف‬ ‫لن‬ ‫الظواهر‬ ‫العفن‬ ‫الزحم‬. •‫التنق‬ ‫و‬ ‫بالبحث‬ ‫إبدأ‬‫يب‬ ‫الحقيقي‬ ‫األسباب‬ ‫عن‬‫ة‬ ‫للعفون‬ ‫تتيح‬ ‫التى‬‫ة‬ ‫و‬ ‫للنمو‬ ‫مناسبة‬ ‫أجواء‬ ‫التكاثر؟؟؟‬ Identification of the Root Causative Factor usually leads to permit Solution. Begin with investigation to determine the source of contamination & reasons of problem
  • 54. ‫المطلوبة‬ ‫الراحة‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫لتحقيق‬ ‫التحديات‬ Challenges toward Achieve Comfort General Role ‫قاعدة‬ ‫عامة‬ ‫التـحــــــــــــــــــــــــــديات‬
  • 55. ‫المطلوبة‬ ‫الراحة‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫لتحقيق‬ ‫التحديات‬ Challenges toward Achieve Comfort 22 60 % ‫المنشودة‬ ‫البرزدة‬ ‫درجة‬ ‫تخقيق‬ ‫من‬ ‫بالرغم‬ ‫مرتفع‬ ‫الرطوبة‬ ‫معدل‬ RH% Level is High, even desired Temp. is achieved
  • 56. ‫المطلوبة‬ ‫الراحة‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫لتحقيق‬ ‫التحديات‬ Challenges toward Achieve Comfort FCU FAHU DB=115-46’C WB=85’F-29.5 RH%=30% DP=77’F-25’C 22 DB=77-25’C RH%=50%
  • 57. ‫المطلوبة‬ ‫الراحة‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫لتحقيق‬ ‫التحديات‬ Challenges toward Achieve Comfort 22 80-85’F Dew Point: 55-40’F RH= 50% FCU FAHU DB=115-46’C WB=85’F-29.5 RH%=30% DP=77’F-25’C
  • 58. ‫المطلوبة‬ ‫الراحة‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫لتحقيق‬ ‫التحديات‬ Challenges toward Achieve Comfort 22 60 %
  • 59. ‫التجديد‬ ‫وحدة‬ ‫من‬ ‫وصلة‬ ‫مع‬ ‫الهواء‬ ‫تدوير‬ ‫وحدة‬ AHU with FA Branch from FAHU ‫تركيب‬ ‫مثالى‬ Ideal
  • 60. •‫احتواء‬ ‫مصادر‬ ‫تركز‬ ‫الرطوبة‬ ‫وشفطها‬ ‫للخارج‬. Contain indoor humidity and moisture- generating sources and vent it to the outside. ‫المطلوبة‬ ‫الراحة‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫لتحقيق‬ ‫التحديات‬ Challenges toward Achieve Comfort G. Role ‫قاعدة‬ ‫عامة‬
  • 61. ‫المطلوبة‬ ‫الراحة‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫لتحقيق‬ ‫التحديات‬ Challenges toward Achieve Comfort G. Role ‫قاعدة‬ ‫عامة‬ ‫المروحة‬ ‫تشغيل‬ ‫ربط‬ ‫طريق‬ ‫عن‬ ‫رطوبة‬ ‫بمجس‬ ‫المروحة‬ ‫تشغيل‬ ‫ربط‬ ‫طريق‬ ‫عن‬ ‫حركة‬ ‫بمجس‬ By connecting Fan to Humidity Sensor Or by connecting to Occupancy Sensor ‫الحاجة‬ ‫عند‬ ‫شغل‬ Start when needed
  • 62. ‫عدد‬ ‫زاد‬ ‫كلما‬ ‫ملفات‬ ‫صفوف‬ ‫زاد‬ ‫التبريد‬ ‫الهواء‬ ‫إحتكاك‬ ‫التبريد‬ ‫بأسطح‬ ‫من‬ ‫يزيد‬ ‫مما‬ ‫الرطوبة‬ ‫تكثف‬ More Coils Means More Condensat- ‫المطلوبة‬ ‫الراحة‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫لتحقيق‬ ‫التحديات‬ Challenges toward Achieve Comfort G. Role ‫قاعدة‬ ‫عامة‬
  • 63. ‫يستمرتكث‬ ‫أن‬ ‫يجب‬‫يف‬ ‫لو‬ ‫حتى‬ ‫الرطوبة‬ ‫لمزيد‬ ‫الحاجة‬ ‫توقفت‬ ‫التبريد‬ ‫من‬ Since dehumidification is continues process that stop when thermostat reach desire temp. for that we have to avoid over design & selection to maximize cooling process. ‫المطلوبة‬ ‫الراحة‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫لتحقيق‬ ‫التحديات‬ Challenges toward Achieve Comfort G. Role ‫قاعدة‬ ‫عامة‬
  • 64. ‫المطلوبة‬ ‫الراحة‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫لتحقيق‬ ‫التحديات‬ Challenges toward Achieve Comfort ‫غالبية‬ ‫وأن‬ ‫خاصة‬ ‫ال‬ ‫تفوق‬ ‫المكيفات‬‫سعة‬ ‫آنيا‬ ‫المطلوبة‬ Since A/C unit selection is usually larger than design that was calculated peak load. For that we must utilize the control to perform according to actual demand to extend cooling process and continue the dehumidification. G. Role ‫قاعدة‬ ‫عامة‬
  • 65. ‫الثرموستات‬ ‫نوعي‬ ‫مواصفات‬ ‫مقارنة‬ Features Comparison both Thermostats • Analog Set Temp • No Room Temp • Manual Fan Speed • Digital Set Temp • Room Temp • Auto Fan Speed Control
  • 66. ‫الثرموستات‬ ‫نوعي‬ ‫مواصفات‬ ‫مقارنة‬ Features Comparison both Thermostats In case of Analog Thermostat: user doesn't have the room temp as a reference to wisely select the comfort temperature In case of Digital Thermostat: user can remember his suitable room temperature every time & control it any time.
  • 67. ‫الديجيتال‬ ‫أجــــواء‬ ‫منظــــم‬ Digital Climate Thermostat ‫الداخليـــة‬ ‫الرطوبــة‬ ‫مستوي‬ ‫لتقليل‬ To control Internal Humidity Level 22
  • 68. ‫الديجيتال‬ ‫أجــــواء‬ ‫منظــــم‬ Digital Climate Thermostat This is done by: The indoor fan speed will be adjusted automatically according to the difference between the room & the setting temperatures DT: •‫طريق‬ ‫عن‬:: •‫المروحة‬ ‫سرعة‬ ‫تبديل‬ ‫بن‬ ‫أوتوماتيكيا‬ ‫الداخلية‬‫اءا‬ ‫درجة‬ ‫بين‬ ‫الفرق‬ ‫علي‬ ‫وحرارة‬ ‫المنظم‬ ‫ضبط‬ ‫الغرفة‬ Fan Speed DT ‫المروحة‬ ‫سرعة‬ High >= 3 ‫عالية‬ Medium >= 2 ‫متوسطة‬ Low >= 1 ‫منخفضة‬ Off < 1 ‫صفر‬
  • 69. ‫الثرموستات‬ ‫نوعي‬ ‫مواصفات‬ ‫مقارنة‬ Features Comparison both Thermostats • ‫عادى‬ ‫ثرموستات‬ • Ordinary Thermostat • ‫أجــــواء‬ ‫منظــــم‬‫الديجيتال‬ Digital Climate Thermostat
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  • 72. ‫الهواء‬ ‫تجديد‬ ‫وحدة‬:‫الرئيسية‬ ‫التحكم‬ ‫لوحة‬ FAHU: Central Controller Panel ‫الحال‬ ‫يظهر‬ ‫وفيها‬ ‫الرئيسية‬ ‫التحكم‬ ‫لوحة‬‫ة‬ ‫المتصلة‬ ‫األجهزة‬ ‫لكافة‬ ‫التشغيلية‬‫بوحد‬‫ة‬ ‫الهواء‬ ‫تجديد‬,‫التشغيل‬ ‫ومفاتييح‬. • Central Control Panel that consists all related controllers and relays of FAHU, also displays, indicator lamps and selector switches.
  • 73. ‫التحكم‬ ‫منظومة‬ ‫ملحقات‬:‫ومفاتيح‬ ‫مجسات‬ Central Controller: Sensors & Switches
  • 74. ‫المطلوبة‬ ‫الراحة‬ ‫مستويات‬ ‫لتحقيق‬ ‫التحديات‬ Challenges toward Achieve Comfort G. Role ‫قاعدة‬ ‫عامة‬
  • 75. ‫وقائية‬ ‫خطوات‬Preventive Measures - •‫لمنع‬ ‫الشقوق‬ ‫إغالق‬ ‫أحكم‬ ‫الخارجى‬ ‫الهواء‬ ‫تخلل‬. •‫الوحدات‬ ‫تعقيم‬ ‫و‬ ‫تنظيف‬ ‫الداخلية‬. •‫و‬ ‫فعالية‬ ‫أكثر‬ ‫فالتر‬ ‫ركب‬ ‫نظافتها‬ ‫على‬ ‫حافظ‬. •‫م‬ ‫وتأكد‬ ‫الشفط‬ ‫مراوج‬ ‫أصلح‬‫ن‬ ‫المسحوب‬ ‫الهواء‬ ‫كمية‬ •‫الهواء‬ ‫بكمية‬ ‫قارن‬‫المجدد‬ • Sealed return plenum from outdoors. • Cleaned & sanitized coil & AHU. • Installed efficient filters and keep it clean. • Repaired exhaust fan & test quantity. • Compare to Fresh Air intake quantity.
  • 76. ‫ال‬‫تبريد‬‫هذه‬ ‫بعد‬ ‫مضمون‬‫التعديالت‬..‫للمال‬ ‫هدر‬ ‫بدون‬/‫الطاقة‬ Cooling is Guarantee After these Corrections .. Without Money/Energy Wastage
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  • 78. Thank you! Looking forward to serve-U better Eng. Juma Yousef Juma CEO & Business Development Manager, Getco Green Earth Technology Co. & Al- Sadarah Engg. Follow us for the latest news and information on Solutions of HVAC Challenges. jumayjuma@gmail.com https://www.facebook.com/greenearthtechnologycompany/ https://www.facebook.com/groups/780970768708352/ www.alsadarah.net https://www.linkedin.com/in/juma-yousef-j-saleh- %D8%AC%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A9-%D9%8A%D9%88%D8%B3%D9%81- %D8%AC%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A9-%D8%B5%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD- 9941b049/