2016 elections; marraige supper of the lamb perry stone
1. 1
Is there a supernatural dimension, a world beyond the one we know? Is there life after death?
Do angels exist? Can our dreams contain messages from Heaven? Can we tap into ancient
secrets of the supernatural? Are healing miracles real? Sid Roth has spent over 35 years
researching the strange world of the supernatural. Join Sid for this edition of It’s Supernatural.
SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. My guest
Perry Stone, since age 16, has been studying Heaven, End Times. He has spent well over
100,000 hours and he has come up with revelations that as far as scholars are concerned, no one
has ever come up with before about Heaven and End Times. He even has come up with a
revelation about the 2016 presidential election. Anyone interested? You know, when I found out
that Perry Stone was working on the subject of Heaven and New Jerusalem, I got so excited. I
can’t even tell you why I got so excited, but I got so excited I had to have him on this show. But
I’m told an event occurred when you were 16 years of age that started you on this quest.
PERRY: Salem High School, it was a high school in southern Virginia, a boy came up to me at
16 years of age, I was 16, and I was preaching at that time just as a kid preacher. And I had a big
Bible with me, and he said, “Preacher man, what are you going to do when you die and find out
there’s not a Heaven?” I was always real quick to answer and I said, “Jimmy, what you gonna do
when you die and find out there’s a hell?” And then, but what happened is it stirred and I
thought, how would I prove to somebody, kind of more from a scientific perspective that there is
a place called Heaven. And so that’s what really started my journey and it was just, it’s been
exciting to, even over the years, even recently to add more to what God showed me.
SID: You got revelations. We’re going to share some of them. But here’s what I want you to
help me with and I think you’re going to help a lot of other people. Take me, very briefly, on a
prophetic timeline starting where we are right now.
PERRY: Okay. Right now we’re in the church age, which is called the dispensation of the grace
of God. It will continue and climax at the time of the Rapture. Now I lean toward pre-trib
because of a lot of research over the years that we have done. Now let’s just assume this is
correct. Then what we have at that point is a tribulation period, which in Daniel 9:27 is set for
seven years. It’s divided into 42 months and 42 months. And what would happen is the return of
the Lord, and I like to say for the overcoming saints who are looking for him. When that
happens, it triggers a time of tribulation on the earth, which is a total of seven years. During the
seven years the saints will begin having, getting rewards and also we will enjoy what’s called a
Marriage Supper of the Lamb during the seven years in Heaven. On Earth, there is judgment,
there’s the revelation of the Antichrist, there’s the Mark of the Beast. There’s a lot of population
of the earth that is eliminated by, some of it’s just natural calamities, asteroids, earthquakes, etc.
We come to the end of the tribulation. We have the Lord returning, Revelation 19 says, “On a
white horse is King of King and Lord of Lords.” And then he sets up his kingdom in Jerusalem
for a thousand years. That’s where we get the word “millennial reign”. That’s a thousand. And
during that thousand years the saints of God are going to rule on Earth with him for a thousand
years. At the end of it, Satan is loosed for a season. Now the only reason he loosed, Sid, because
this has perplexed people, why don’t God keep him bound? Because in the millennial reign there
will be people on Earth who will continue to repopulate the earth that have never been tempted,
tested or tried by Satan. So God is going to let earthly people who are living in the tribulation,
2. 2
who have survived being repopulated to be tested to see if they’re going to be faithful to the Lord
or follow Satan. That’s the last test. Then when that is over, the Bible tells us there’s a Great
White Throne of Judgment in Heaven and then Satan is bound forever in the lake of fire, which
is going to be a tremendous day for everyone who is a believer, of course. The new Heaven and
new Earth come down after the Great White Throne of Judgment. This judgment, every single
angel that’s fallen, Satan himself, plus all saints, all unbelievers, all are in Heaven at one time.
Now we’ve already been judged as believers as the judgment seat of Christ. Okay. That’s in
Revelation, Chapter 11. But the world and the sinners have not been judged. God is never going
to condemn anyone to an eternity without him, in let’s say the lake of fire, without them
absolutely seeing and knowing the reason why. That’s why there’s a Great White Throne of
Judgment.
SID: You know, Perry, you teach on the mysteries, unlocking the mysteries of Heaven, past,
present and future. Explain.
PERRY: The Holy Spirit put something together for me that I had never heard taught in my life.
I believe it can be proven, from Ezekiel 28, from the Book of Revelation, from Isaiah 14, that
Lucifer, who we know is Satan, before he fell, was assisting God in the building of the New
Jerusalem. The fall of Lucifer took place before the New Jerusalem was completed, and I’ll get
into that later. Now that’s called the ages past. Creation as we know it with man is 6000. What a
lot of people don’t realize is there’s what’s called ages past, and ages past was, okay, when was
Lucifer created, when were the angels created. He was in Heaven as a cherub before he fell.
When was that? When did the rebellion take place where he took a third of the angels and they
fell with him? That’s the ages past part. In fact, I’m going to throw a nugget out here to all your
folks. In the Bible it says Hell was prepared for the devil and his angels, but when was Hell
prepared? Scientists say that the earth was at one time molten fire and water cool[ed it], and
that’s how the process began. In Genesis 1:1, the earth is created perfect. You studied Hebrew.
You know that, “In the beginning God created the Heaven and the Earth.” The tense there is
complete perfection, like a perfect, it’s done.
SID: Right.
PERRY: Verse 2, “Everything is without form and void.” The fall of Lucifer happened between
Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2 in ages past.
SID: So in ages past there is a gap and we don’t even know how long that was.
PERRY: Thank you. That’s exactly what I’m saying. We don’t know how long the gap is. And
that explains, if I can, the controversy as to why Christians say there’s a 6000-year old earth,
scientists say it’s a four billion-year old earth.
SID: There’s an answer to everything.
PERRY: There absolutely is an answer if we understand the fall of Lucifer and the gap in
Genesis 1:1 and 1:2, and the timeframe there.
3. 3
SID: Let’s go to some basics.
PERRY: Yes.
SID: Where is Heaven located?
PERRY: If you look at Isaiah, Chapter 14, Satan says, “I will descend into Heaven above the
stars of God and above the clouds in the sides of the north.” The northern part of Heaven is very
unique because there’s a star there called the North Star or Polaris, which sits just a little bit off
of true north. Anytime you needed direction you had to find the North Star. Anytime a ship
needed direction you find the North Star. It’s the directional star. What is interesting, Job said,
“God stretches the north over the empty place, but he hangs the earth on nothing.” Two scientific
facts there, this what I learned when I was 16. One is the earth is hanging on nothing, but what’s
this thing about the north being an empty place? I have a friend of mine, I have several friends
who work for NASA and they say it’s really true that in the northern part of the heavens there is
an empty place and there’s a gap. It’s just an empty, a darkness, a gap. All right. The Bible
indicates that. North is the only place where you look, really, true up. All right. So Heaven is in
the north. Now number two, Isaiah said, it was Satan talking, but Isaiah wrote it, “I’ll send above
the clouds, above the stars in the sides to the north.” That’s three heavens. Paul in Second
Corinthians—
SID: I heard about Second Heaven. How many heavens are there?
PERRY: The Bible tells you of three. There are three heavens and the Bible indicates
specifically what those three are: clouds, stars then the end of the stars, that begins the Third
Heaven, and that’s where God dwells is in the Third Heaven.
SID: And where does the devil dwell and his demons?
PERRY: Let me say it this way. Adam was given dominion over the fowls of the air. The birds if
you ever see them fly in the sky near the clouds, so Adam, man has dominion of the First Heaven.
That’s why we have airplanes that aren’t falling out of the sky. The devil is not knocking airplanes
out of the sky. We can fly. We have dominion. We have satellites. Number two, however, is Satan
rules in the realm of the Second Heaven. Principalities, rulers of darkness in high places are in
Second Heaven. Third Heaven is where God rules. So it’s interesting how that between where we
are to where God is we have this spiritual warfare going on. Here’s the part that just absolutely
stuns me. I love this part. Jesus, when he returns, doesn’t come back up in the stars, and we have to
meet him where the stars are. He comes right back into Satan’s territory and snatches us out so fast
that the enemy doesn’t even know it’s happened until it’s over with.
SID: I’m going to tell you something. I want you to talk about never revealed. No scholars have
ever heard this. Revelations, you have God about the mountain in Heaven, the stones in Heaven,
about Lucifer. We’ll be right back.
We'll be right back to It's Supernatural.
[music]
4. 4
[commercial]
[music]
We now return to It's Supernatural.
SID: Perry, tell me about the earliest stages of creating the heavens and the earth.
PERRY: Okay. In the beginning of time, and I’m going to, let me just read this verse because
this is our foundational verse. God says to this person, “You have been in Eden, the Garden of
God. Every precious stone was your covering. The sardius topaz, diamond barrel onyx, jasper
sapphire, emerald, carbuncle and gold, the workmanship of your tabrets and pipes was prepared
in the day that thou was created. Thou are the anointed cherub that covereth.” And he says this,
“I have set thee so upon the Holy Mountain of God and you’ve walked up and down in the midst
of the stones of fire. You were perfect in your ways until inequity was found in you and then the
heart was lifted up because of thy beauty.” Now there’s a couple things here. Number one, it
mentions the Mountain of God. This is not Jerusalem. This is the heavenly mountain where God
dwells. Number two, it mentions Eden. Now people assume this is the Garden of Eden. This is
not the Garden of Eden. There is a heavenly paradise or a heavenly Eden just like there was an
earthly Eden. All right. Number three, now this is the part that puzzled me for years. This is
where it starts making sense. “You are the anointed cherub.” This is a cherub that’s anointed. No
other angel is called anointed by this angel right here. The thing that really got me was, “You
have walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.” So let me tell you how this
happened. So I’m with a guy in Texas, a pastor in Texas who works with gemstones, and he says
to me, he says this, “You know every gemstone is formed in fire.” Whoa, whoa, whoa.
SID: Mountain of fire, stones of fire.
PERRY: Thank you. Then I go to this Jewish translation of the Bible, and I apologize for not
giving you which one it is, because there’s many translations, and it says, “You walked up and
down in the gemstones of fire.” I go, whoa, whoa, whoa. Now then I’m thinking, okay, this is
Satan. This is a picture. Most scholars will agree this is Satan. Pipes, he was a worship leader
because pipes were created in the same, but it’s got nine stones. Now here’s what’s odd. These
same stones are the same nine that are also part of the 12 stones on the breastplate of the priest in
Exodus. These nine stones are also, Sid, and this is where the triggering came, this is where it
starts clicking, nine of the 12 stones in the city New Jerusalem.
SID: So when you have 12 stones on the breastplate.
PERRY: That’s right.
SID: When we have, in New Jerusalem there’s 12 stones. So come Satan only had nine?
PERRY: That’s what got me asking this. All right. Then I realized this. Every precious stone is
your covering. Now I used to think he had a breastplate with nine stones. That’s how I took this,
because I’m thinking, okay, this is similar. Wait a minute, but it doesn’t say anything. It just says it
was your covering. And I’m thinking that word in Hebrew, “cover”, what’s it mean? Okay, watch
5. 5
this. It means there were gemstones on fingers, gemstones on his arm, gemstones on his, but wait a
minute, he’s only got nine. Why nine? You ready? Because Satan was the one, this angel was
walking up and down in the midst of the stones of fire preparing the stones for the holy city New
Jerusalem. Watch this. Every time a floor, first floor, second floor is completed, God allows him to
be covered by that gemstone. But do you know what stones are missing from him?
SID: No.
PERRY: You ready? The last three stories of the New Jerusalem. I hear them go “oh” in the
audience. They’re getting it. He fell from Heaven and was cast out between the ninth and tenth
story being completed. He completed the ninth, but he never, now why? Because he was lifted
up because of his beauty.
SID: This show is a little different because we previously got our people from Facebook to write
in questions that they had. They came up with some great questions. Why don’t you give us a
question.
Audience member: The first question is what will we remember in Heaven?
PERRY: Now the Bible says this, it says, “The former things will not be remembered and will
come into remembrance,” which presents problems. Does that mean that all of our loved ones
that are in Heaven we don’t remember? The answer is we know our loved ones in Heaven
because Paul said, “We’ll be known even as we were known.” I’ll know that’s mom, I’ll know
that’s dad, my brother and sister. Now the reason the former things will not be remembered is
because if people we knew did not make it, how would Heaven be delightful? If you have
children that didn’t make it. So I don’t know how God does this, but if God, this is what he told
me, he said, “Son, if I’m able to look at a person and they ask me for forgiveness of sins and I
can erase their sins and never bring them up or remember them, I can do the same thing with
people’s past.” So in other words, there will come a point, because it says, “No more tears will
come in your eyes.” At some point everything about anything negative, anything that happened
in your life bad and the people who didn’t make it will not be remembered.
SID: You had another question.
Audience member: It’s actually a long question, a very good question. You talked about the
link between Satan being cast out of Heaven during the construction of the Heavenly Jerusalem.
Why would this cause such hatred for Israel and Jerusalem today?
PERRY: I’m going to compare it to a [unintelligible], like a story.
SID: It has to be a short answer.
PERRY: Okay. If I worked for a major corporation and I was the CEO over the whole thing and
they booted me out because of something I did wrong, if I didn’t take the right attitude I could
cause a rebellion in the company and I would hate that company the rest of my life. His hatred
for Jerusalem is a continual reminder of his failure.
6. 6
SID: When we come back I want to find out what happens in this New Jerusalem, what our job
is going to be. What happens when we’re in Heaven? What is our job? Are we going to work?
Are we going to go to school? What are we going to do? Don’t go away. Be right back.
We'll be right back to It's Supernatural.
[music]
[commercial]
[music]
We now return to It's Supernatural.
SID: What is the millennium and is there a job assignment or we just have regular jobs like we
always do.
PERRY: Let’s explain this. When we come back from Heaven, in Revelation 19, with Christ,
we will come back and rule with him for 1000 years. Now people have this real misconception of
what the millennium is. They think we just kind of float around, we kind of chill out, we go the
mountain, the city, we lay around and drink a soda and hey man, everything is cool. What
happens is Jesus said it this way, “Because you’ve been faithful over little things I’ll make you
ruler over many.” Basically kings, priests and rulers is our position. That’s pretty remarkable to
think about.
SID: Now every presidential election, recently, God has spoken and advanced you who would be
president.
PERRY: Since the ‘90s, I do studies from the Hebraic perspective on numbers, and you know
this, and I have so much fun with this. I did something very different I’ve never done before. I
went to President 43, 44 and 45 and I said this in President 44, I said, 44 is division. Now I’m
telling this. I don’t know who he is or she is, whoever. I said but the 44 is double division. And I
said you’re going to see the country split right down middle. Now I’m saying all this, you know,
I’m saying to myself, God, trust me, after me telling people it was God’s will for Bush to be
president, when he won I got a relief because they would have stoned me for being a false
prophet. I got on TV and told it. Okay now, let me go back to this real quick while it’s on my
mine. So I started looking at number 45. You all ready for this? This is crazy. If you take the 40
and the 5 in the Hebrew alphabet it’s Ma, not mom, but Ma. Do you know what the word Ma
means? What.
SID: What.
PERRY: It means “what”. Here’s what’s going to happen. Everybody mark this down. Whoever
gets in people are going to say, “What?!” That’s what they’re going to say. Remember. What?!
How did this happen? What? What is going on? What?! Watch it. And so I will say this. I will
say this and I’m not going to name them because I get a boldness when I sense the anointing, but
7. 7
I also have learned to restrain. Four years ago I saw a man and God spoke to me and said, “I am
going to raise this man up to be a leader.” Now I will not name because this stuff goes
everywhere and then people copy it and they paste, and people, if they don’t like the person
they’re calling my office and cussing my office staff out. I’m serious. People are crazy. It is
possible he will be a vice presidential candidate, and if he is there is no doubt in my mind that
person will win if that person is selected. Very strong Christian. That’s all I’m going to say.
There’s other things I could say. But I believe this is the person who’s supposed to come on the
ticket. Now I’m not going to name who it is. Now I may tell you privately so if this happens.
SID: You already have.
PERRY: Yes, okay. Did I really? Oh boy. See, I learned to keep my mouth shut.
SID: Perry, Jesus went away to enable us to have access into the Kingdom and there’s something
called the Lamb’s Book of Life. What is that?
PERRY: Lamb’s Book of Life is what I call the registry to give you access to eternity in the
New Jerusalem. To get in that book of life you have to be born again, you have to have a
redemptive covenant with Jesus Christ.
SID: If you sincerely say the prayer I’m going to lead you in right now and you mean it to the
best of your ability, you will not have to look back and you will not have to wonder. I want to
see that your name is inscribed in the Lamb’s Book of Life for sure.
PERRY: Yes, yes, yes.
SID: So repeat this after me, even if you’ve been a believer 30 years, 50 years. Let’s reestablish
who you are. Repeat after me. Dear God.
Audience: Dear God.
SID: I’m a sinner.
Audience: I’m a sinner.
SID: Against you.
Audience: Against you.
SID: And you alone have I sinned.
Audience: And you alone have I sinned.
SID: And I’m so sorry.
Audience: And I’m so sorry.
8. 8
SID: I believe.
Audience: I believe.
SID: That Jesus came to Earth.
Audience: That Jesus came to Earth.
SID: He lives sinless.
Audience: He lives sinless.
SID: He died.
Audience: He died.
SID: He was buried.
Audience: He was buried.
SID: He rose from the dead.
Audience: He rose from the dead.
SID: And because he did that.
Audience: And because he did that.
SID: He paid the price for every bad thing I’ve ever done.
Audience: He paid the price for every bad thing I’ve ever done.
SID: And his precious blood.
Audience: And his precious blood.
SID: Washed away my sins.
Audience: Washed away my sins.
SID: God, I’ve repented.
Audience: God, I’ve repented.
SID: And I thank you. You’re a good God.
9. 9
Audience: And I thank you. You’re a good God.
SID: And I am clean.
Audience: And I am clean.
SID: Because of the blood of Jesus.
Audience: Because of the blood of Jesus.
SID: Thank you, Jesus.
Audience: Thank you, Jesus.
SID: And now that I’m clean.
Audience: And now that I’m clean.
SID: I boldly proclaim.
Audience: I boldly proclaim.
SID: Jesus is my Lord.
Audience: Jesus is my Lord.
SID: Lord Jesus.
Audience: Lord Jesus.
SID: Come inside of me.
Audience: Come inside of me.
SID: O I love you, Lord.
Audience: O I love you, Lord.
SID: I thank you that my name.
Audience: I thank you that name.
SID: Is inscribed in the Lamb’s Book of Life.
Audience: Is inscribed in the Lamb’s Book of Life.
10. 10
SID: Amen.
Audience: Amen.
SID: Thank you Jesus!
We'll be right back to It's Supernatural.
[commercial]
SID: Next week on It’s Supernatural. My next guest started a genuine friendship with the Holy
Spirit at 13. He’s 27 now and he says the most important thing of the hour is for you to have a
friendship with the Spirit of the Living God and he would like to help you develop this. I want
this. Do you?
[music]