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Dealing with Mob Violence?
Dr Nikhil Datar
MD DNB FCPS FICOG DGODHA LLB
Dr Nikhil D Datar
MD DNB FCPS FICOG DGO DHA LLB
•Medical Director Cloudnine Hospital
Mumbai
•Founder President Patient Safety
Alliance
•Health Rights Activist known for his
work on MTP Act amendment
•Adviser Government of India on E-
health
•Consultant USAID
When do the relatives lose patience?
 Unexpected, unanticipated and sudden death
 Suspected or perceived negligence
 Trigger points
 Bill
 Staff behaviour
Naked truth about healthcare
 Doctor patient relationship of faith is fractured and GPs have
almost vanished
 Healthcare has become a commodity
 Costs of healthcare …High
 Poor communication and complete lack of informed consent
Sufficient Information Vs Consent
 Mere signing of a form is not enough to say
that sufficient information is given
Challenges in counselling
 How much information is sufficient?
 How to do it without frightening the patient?
 How to get over the language barrier?
 How to give sufficient time?
 How to improve patient recall?
 How to improve patient experience?
6
Perceived lack of care/ Fragmented
care
 Perceived lack of availability
 Discounting patient’s concerns
 Poor delivery of information
 Mal occurrence suggested by another doctor
---Archieves of internal medicine 1994
Intolerant society
 Death is a natural consequence of disease
and not medical treatment….
 Every unexpected or unanticipated medical
outcome is BECAUSE of the doctors
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Tips :Managing the violent
relatives
Tip no 1 – You are under electronic surveillance
 Security and bouncers
 No use during riots
 CCTV
 Easy and cheap
 Evidence for police/court
Tip no 2 -- Insurance
 No body forgets professional indemnity
 Insurance for damage to furniture, riot, fire, calamities etc
 Premium is meagre
Tip no 3 – Rush team
 Develop a local “Rush team” of colleagues who can rush to
stand by you.
 Helps communication
 Prevents manhandling and vandalism
Rules for rush team
 Main chair belongs to the “captain” doctor
 Communication is the job of captaion’s job. Your role is of a
facilitator
 Do not take it as an opportunity to settle scores by giving
subtle hints to relatives that there was negligence
Intra-op or immediate post op death
Post mortem or death certificate?
Relatives are ready to give an undertaking! Is it OK?
Dr Nikhil Datar
Death Certificate
To Be (given) Or Not To Be
(given)!!
Dr Nikhil D. Datar
NOC for disposal
 Information to the police
 Panchanama and statements
 NOC for disposal of body
Dr Nikhil D. Datar
Sure shot recipe for violence
 Dead on arrival… CMO states “Patient serious hai. Yaha
kuch nahi ho sakta. Jaldi se bade hospital leke jao”
 Patient was taken to another Hospital
 CMO at that hospital said “patient is dead”
Tip no 5 -- Photographs
 Take photographs of the damage done to the property- for
court and insurance
 Do this before the police (whom you will call) arrives and
before the local politician (who will come any way) arrives
Tip 6 -- Medical check up of injured
 Send all the injured staff and doctors for medical check-up
and first aid preferably to nearby Government hospital
 Make MLC in that hospital and preserve all the injury reports
Tip no 7 – Don’t involve politicians
Calling a known politician is a double edged sword
 May spare you from the particular situation but will take
advantage later
 They may be from the side of the miscreants, then they will
insist on cleaning the mess and destroying the evidence
before photographs are taken
Tip no 8 - Inform the police
 Mentions the names of the miscreants if known in the FIR
 Otherwise make FIR in the name of “unknown”
 Hand over a copy of the CCTV footage so that police can
identify the miscreants
Tip no 9 - Insurance company
Immediately inform the insurance agent with photograph and
copy of the FIR
Tip no 10 – Keep a copy of the Act!!!
 Prevention of violence and damage to property act has been
passed by AP. Maharashtra, Orissa, Chattisgarh,
Tamilnadu ,Karnataka . Manipur.
 Kerala and Bihar were in pipeline
 IMA is demanding a central act to this effect
Salient points
Maharashtra medicare service persons and medicare service
institutions (prevention violence and damage or loss to
the property 2009
 Commitment, attempt to commit and abetment are all
punishable
 Imprisonment which can extend to three years with fine
which can extend to 50,000/-
 Compensation double the amount of loss or as judged by the
court
 Cognizable, non-bailable and triable by court of judicial
magistrate first class
Tip no 11 - Never compromise –
It is non-compoundable
 Crime is against the State
 Parties have no right to “settle” the dispute
 Requires a writ in the high court
Do not succumb to requests and pressures by politicians or goon
to compromise
One miscreant learnt a lesson in Aundh. Hope the word spreads
Policy:Blame free redressal
 Effective mechanism of redressal of grivances of consumers
must be strengthened…
 “Criminalization” of at best “deficiency of services” can’t be
accepted at any cost
Zero tolerance against vandalism in healthcare organizations
has to be policy decision and strictly implemented
To conclude
 Aim at getting the culprits arrested under the act
 Rush team
 CCTV camera
 Photographs
 Inform Police and keep politician in loop
 Insurance for infrastructure damage
 Keep copy of act
 Never compromise
Mob violence in  hospital: Does and Dont's

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Mob violence in hospital: Does and Dont's

  • 1. Dealing with Mob Violence? Dr Nikhil Datar MD DNB FCPS FICOG DGODHA LLB
  • 2. Dr Nikhil D Datar MD DNB FCPS FICOG DGO DHA LLB •Medical Director Cloudnine Hospital Mumbai •Founder President Patient Safety Alliance •Health Rights Activist known for his work on MTP Act amendment •Adviser Government of India on E- health •Consultant USAID
  • 3. When do the relatives lose patience?  Unexpected, unanticipated and sudden death  Suspected or perceived negligence  Trigger points  Bill  Staff behaviour
  • 4. Naked truth about healthcare  Doctor patient relationship of faith is fractured and GPs have almost vanished  Healthcare has become a commodity  Costs of healthcare …High  Poor communication and complete lack of informed consent
  • 5. Sufficient Information Vs Consent  Mere signing of a form is not enough to say that sufficient information is given
  • 6. Challenges in counselling  How much information is sufficient?  How to do it without frightening the patient?  How to get over the language barrier?  How to give sufficient time?  How to improve patient recall?  How to improve patient experience? 6
  • 7. Perceived lack of care/ Fragmented care  Perceived lack of availability  Discounting patient’s concerns  Poor delivery of information  Mal occurrence suggested by another doctor ---Archieves of internal medicine 1994
  • 8. Intolerant society  Death is a natural consequence of disease and not medical treatment….  Every unexpected or unanticipated medical outcome is BECAUSE of the doctors
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  • 10. Tips :Managing the violent relatives
  • 11. Tip no 1 – You are under electronic surveillance  Security and bouncers  No use during riots  CCTV  Easy and cheap  Evidence for police/court
  • 12. Tip no 2 -- Insurance  No body forgets professional indemnity  Insurance for damage to furniture, riot, fire, calamities etc  Premium is meagre
  • 13. Tip no 3 – Rush team  Develop a local “Rush team” of colleagues who can rush to stand by you.  Helps communication  Prevents manhandling and vandalism
  • 14. Rules for rush team  Main chair belongs to the “captain” doctor  Communication is the job of captaion’s job. Your role is of a facilitator  Do not take it as an opportunity to settle scores by giving subtle hints to relatives that there was negligence
  • 15. Intra-op or immediate post op death Post mortem or death certificate? Relatives are ready to give an undertaking! Is it OK?
  • 16. Dr Nikhil Datar Death Certificate To Be (given) Or Not To Be (given)!!
  • 17. Dr Nikhil D. Datar
  • 18. NOC for disposal  Information to the police  Panchanama and statements  NOC for disposal of body Dr Nikhil D. Datar
  • 19. Sure shot recipe for violence  Dead on arrival… CMO states “Patient serious hai. Yaha kuch nahi ho sakta. Jaldi se bade hospital leke jao”  Patient was taken to another Hospital  CMO at that hospital said “patient is dead”
  • 20. Tip no 5 -- Photographs  Take photographs of the damage done to the property- for court and insurance  Do this before the police (whom you will call) arrives and before the local politician (who will come any way) arrives
  • 21. Tip 6 -- Medical check up of injured  Send all the injured staff and doctors for medical check-up and first aid preferably to nearby Government hospital  Make MLC in that hospital and preserve all the injury reports
  • 22. Tip no 7 – Don’t involve politicians Calling a known politician is a double edged sword  May spare you from the particular situation but will take advantage later  They may be from the side of the miscreants, then they will insist on cleaning the mess and destroying the evidence before photographs are taken
  • 23. Tip no 8 - Inform the police  Mentions the names of the miscreants if known in the FIR  Otherwise make FIR in the name of “unknown”  Hand over a copy of the CCTV footage so that police can identify the miscreants
  • 24. Tip no 9 - Insurance company Immediately inform the insurance agent with photograph and copy of the FIR
  • 25. Tip no 10 – Keep a copy of the Act!!!  Prevention of violence and damage to property act has been passed by AP. Maharashtra, Orissa, Chattisgarh, Tamilnadu ,Karnataka . Manipur.  Kerala and Bihar were in pipeline  IMA is demanding a central act to this effect
  • 26. Salient points Maharashtra medicare service persons and medicare service institutions (prevention violence and damage or loss to the property 2009  Commitment, attempt to commit and abetment are all punishable  Imprisonment which can extend to three years with fine which can extend to 50,000/-  Compensation double the amount of loss or as judged by the court  Cognizable, non-bailable and triable by court of judicial magistrate first class
  • 27. Tip no 11 - Never compromise – It is non-compoundable  Crime is against the State  Parties have no right to “settle” the dispute  Requires a writ in the high court Do not succumb to requests and pressures by politicians or goon to compromise One miscreant learnt a lesson in Aundh. Hope the word spreads
  • 28. Policy:Blame free redressal  Effective mechanism of redressal of grivances of consumers must be strengthened…  “Criminalization” of at best “deficiency of services” can’t be accepted at any cost Zero tolerance against vandalism in healthcare organizations has to be policy decision and strictly implemented
  • 29. To conclude  Aim at getting the culprits arrested under the act  Rush team  CCTV camera  Photographs  Inform Police and keep politician in loop  Insurance for infrastructure damage  Keep copy of act  Never compromise