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UN voted 138-9 to grant Palestine observer state
status
By Julia Henning
December 13, 2012
1 Comments
2/21/2015 UN voted 138-9 to grant Palestine observer state status « The Chimes | Biola University
http://chimes.biola.edu/story/2012/dec/13/palestine-story/ 2/6
United Nation Headquarters | Courtesy of wilpf.org [Creative Commons]
Palestine joined the Holy See as the second observer state to the United Nations after a 138-9 vote in the
U.N. on Nov. 29. This occurred on the 65th anniversary of the U.N. Special Committee on Palestine
ruling which approved the plan to divide Palestine in order to make create a Jewish state.
An observer state is a non-member state allowed to observe the U.N.
“Non-member States having received a standing invitation to participate as observers in the sessions and
the work of the General Assembly and maintaining permanent observer missions at Headquarters,”
according to the online U.N. description of permanent observer states.
Robert Williams, associate professor of political science at Pepperdine University, said that this was a
step in the direction of statehood.
UN recognition unecessary for statehood
He said that it is not U.N. recognition that establishes a state. It is a bilateral recognition of statehood by
other countries in the world. Prior to the Nov. 29 ruling, Palestine was recognized by 132 countries as a
legitimate state, including many European nations, according to the United Nations’ “Status of Palestine
in the United Nations.” However, Palestine is gaining international attention by applying for and gaining
observer statehood, Williams said.
This ruling may have little effect on people actually in Palestine, according to Williams.
“I don’t think there’s really any discernable impact for people in these places. It’s something that
diplomats and international lawyers will worry over,” Williams said.
Young Palestinian ideas of statehood
Junior intercultural studies major Riley Wall explained that in 2011, he was given the opportunity to live
2/21/2015 UN voted 138-9 to grant Palestine observer state status « The Chimes | Biola University
http://chimes.biola.edu/story/2012/dec/13/palestine-story/ 3/6
with an American couple in Palestine. During this time, he was talked to the people about political issues,
such as the importance of having a Palestinian state.
He said that he talked to a 16-year-old girl, who told him she did not want Palestine to be an independent
state, because then Palestine would lose international funding and aid. The younger generation in
Palestine is more concerned with having rights and freedom than they are with having the political
recognition of statehood, Wall said. This contrasted with the conversations Wall had with the older
generation in Palestine, who typically want Palestine to become an independent nation.
“The reason that the adults and older people would want their independence is because they were the first
generation out of [the land] and are the recipients of being kicked out of Jerusalem, so they are most
sensitive to the issues at hand whereas the youth are more detached from knowing what it was like to be a
state,” Wall said.
Opportunities for Palestine
This ruling may allow Palestine the opportunity to take Israel before the international court and charge
them of war crimes, according to Williams.
“One of things people have been focusing on is whether or not Palestine can now join the international
criminal court and accept its jurisdiction, which might give it the opportunity to bring complaints against
Israel,” Williams said.
In order for Palestine to become a full state in the U.N., they would have to fit the criteria outlined by The
Montevideo Convention on the Rights and Duties of States from 1933. This outlined four major goals a
prospective state must fulfill in order to be established as a nation-state including a permanent population,
defined territory, government and the capacity to enter into relations with other states. Williams believes
Palestine’s next step would be to draft a constitution.
There will be a turning point in mid-January, Williams explained, when Israel has elections. Palestine
would have to respond to either a strengthening of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's
government, or a new government.
“This is always one of those issues where a new government potentially means changes in negotiations,
changes in the status of whatever is not working at present. So there might be something new that might
work,” Williams said.
Ronald Pierce, professor of biblical and theological studies at Biola, explained that he thought any
progress Palestine gained in becoming a recognized people and state was positive.
“I think it’s a step forward. As I’ve studied negotiations over the years and been in a few myself on other
issues, I’ve come to learn that very small steps are better than no steps,” he said.
However, Wall didn’t think Palestine gaining observer state status in the eyes of the U.N. meant very
much.
“If the term statehood is not accomplishing to get the Israeli settlements out of there, then it doesn’t really
matter if it’s a state or not because it’s their territory but they don’t really have rights to it because Israel
has property there,” Wall said.
Junior political science major Anna Reeser, president of the Jewish Studies Club, said she thought that
Palestine going through the U.N. for statehood, rather than approaching Israel for peace talks, may have
more harm than good.
“I actually think it undermines the whole peace process thing and kind of shows an unwillingness on
Palestine’s part to have direct negotiations with Israel. It’s almost like they’re going in the back door,”
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Reeser said.
Pierce explained that he thought Biola needed to facilitate more discussions about the Israel-Palestine
conflict where both sides of the conflict.
“We need to have a greater awareness for the other voice,” Pierce said. “I think we need to hear the other
voices … We’ve been intentional about other issues, I don’t think this is an issue of clear biblical right
and wrong.”
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  • 1. 2/21/2015 UN voted 138-9 to grant Palestine observer state status « The Chimes | Biola University http://chimes.biola.edu/story/2012/dec/13/palestine-story/ 1/6 Biola University About Academics Admissions Athletics News & Events Resources Offices Search The Chimes: Biola’ Student Newspaper About Us Positions News Features Sports A&E Opinions Blogs Photos & Videos Go Tweet 0 0Like Email Print UN voted 138-9 to grant Palestine observer state status By Julia Henning December 13, 2012 1 Comments
  • 2. 2/21/2015 UN voted 138-9 to grant Palestine observer state status « The Chimes | Biola University http://chimes.biola.edu/story/2012/dec/13/palestine-story/ 2/6 United Nation Headquarters | Courtesy of wilpf.org [Creative Commons] Palestine joined the Holy See as the second observer state to the United Nations after a 138-9 vote in the U.N. on Nov. 29. This occurred on the 65th anniversary of the U.N. Special Committee on Palestine ruling which approved the plan to divide Palestine in order to make create a Jewish state. An observer state is a non-member state allowed to observe the U.N. “Non-member States having received a standing invitation to participate as observers in the sessions and the work of the General Assembly and maintaining permanent observer missions at Headquarters,” according to the online U.N. description of permanent observer states. Robert Williams, associate professor of political science at Pepperdine University, said that this was a step in the direction of statehood. UN recognition unecessary for statehood He said that it is not U.N. recognition that establishes a state. It is a bilateral recognition of statehood by other countries in the world. Prior to the Nov. 29 ruling, Palestine was recognized by 132 countries as a legitimate state, including many European nations, according to the United Nations’ “Status of Palestine in the United Nations.” However, Palestine is gaining international attention by applying for and gaining observer statehood, Williams said. This ruling may have little effect on people actually in Palestine, according to Williams. “I don’t think there’s really any discernable impact for people in these places. It’s something that diplomats and international lawyers will worry over,” Williams said. Young Palestinian ideas of statehood Junior intercultural studies major Riley Wall explained that in 2011, he was given the opportunity to live
  • 3. 2/21/2015 UN voted 138-9 to grant Palestine observer state status « The Chimes | Biola University http://chimes.biola.edu/story/2012/dec/13/palestine-story/ 3/6 with an American couple in Palestine. During this time, he was talked to the people about political issues, such as the importance of having a Palestinian state. He said that he talked to a 16-year-old girl, who told him she did not want Palestine to be an independent state, because then Palestine would lose international funding and aid. The younger generation in Palestine is more concerned with having rights and freedom than they are with having the political recognition of statehood, Wall said. This contrasted with the conversations Wall had with the older generation in Palestine, who typically want Palestine to become an independent nation. “The reason that the adults and older people would want their independence is because they were the first generation out of [the land] and are the recipients of being kicked out of Jerusalem, so they are most sensitive to the issues at hand whereas the youth are more detached from knowing what it was like to be a state,” Wall said. Opportunities for Palestine This ruling may allow Palestine the opportunity to take Israel before the international court and charge them of war crimes, according to Williams. “One of things people have been focusing on is whether or not Palestine can now join the international criminal court and accept its jurisdiction, which might give it the opportunity to bring complaints against Israel,” Williams said. In order for Palestine to become a full state in the U.N., they would have to fit the criteria outlined by The Montevideo Convention on the Rights and Duties of States from 1933. This outlined four major goals a prospective state must fulfill in order to be established as a nation-state including a permanent population, defined territory, government and the capacity to enter into relations with other states. Williams believes Palestine’s next step would be to draft a constitution. There will be a turning point in mid-January, Williams explained, when Israel has elections. Palestine would have to respond to either a strengthening of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's government, or a new government. “This is always one of those issues where a new government potentially means changes in negotiations, changes in the status of whatever is not working at present. So there might be something new that might work,” Williams said. Ronald Pierce, professor of biblical and theological studies at Biola, explained that he thought any progress Palestine gained in becoming a recognized people and state was positive. “I think it’s a step forward. As I’ve studied negotiations over the years and been in a few myself on other issues, I’ve come to learn that very small steps are better than no steps,” he said. However, Wall didn’t think Palestine gaining observer state status in the eyes of the U.N. meant very much. “If the term statehood is not accomplishing to get the Israeli settlements out of there, then it doesn’t really matter if it’s a state or not because it’s their territory but they don’t really have rights to it because Israel has property there,” Wall said. Junior political science major Anna Reeser, president of the Jewish Studies Club, said she thought that Palestine going through the U.N. for statehood, rather than approaching Israel for peace talks, may have more harm than good. “I actually think it undermines the whole peace process thing and kind of shows an unwillingness on Palestine’s part to have direct negotiations with Israel. It’s almost like they’re going in the back door,”
  • 4. 2/21/2015 UN voted 138-9 to grant Palestine observer state status « The Chimes | Biola University http://chimes.biola.edu/story/2012/dec/13/palestine-story/ 4/6 Reeser said. Pierce explained that he thought Biola needed to facilitate more discussions about the Israel-Palestine conflict where both sides of the conflict. “We need to have a greater awareness for the other voice,” Pierce said. “I think we need to hear the other voices … We’ve been intentional about other issues, I don’t think this is an issue of clear biblical right and wrong.” By Julia Henning Other Stories Stribbling/Mattocks and Brady Lee take SGA/SMU presidential elections by Dayna Drum , Grace Gibney & Alondra Urizar on February 19, 2015 Taylor Stribbling and Drew Mattocks beat their opponents for the SGA presidential seat by 99 votes. Debate brings platforms to the table by Alondra Urizar on February 18, 2015 Candidates defend their goals for their potential new positions through a question and answer session in front of a student audience.
  • 5. 2/21/2015 UN voted 138-9 to grant Palestine observer state status « The Chimes | Biola University http://chimes.biola.edu/story/2012/dec/13/palestine-story/ 5/6 SCORR conference facilitates further racial discussion by Melissa Hedrick on February 18, 2015 The annual SCORR conference will address racial issues brought up last semester as one avenue of continuing the conversation Your Turn.  Post a Comment 1. Prof. Taheri The final resolution of the conflict is brilliantly depicted (as though in fiction) in Jonathan Bloomfield’s award-winning book, “Palestine.” December 13, 2012 Name: Email: Your email will not be published as part of your comment. Comment: Submit Advertisement YOUR AD HERE More from Williams: Similar reasons that the United States supports Israel: the United States is the protector of Israel’s interests in the U.N. the Jewish lobby means a lot to the United States government the United States played a significant part in Israel's founding the idea of Israel being an important ally in a troublesome region Israel is a democracy in a region where there aren’t very many democracies
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