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Finding a Job and Negotiating an Agreement in Allergy/Immunology - AAAAI 2015
1. Tao T. Le, MD, MHS
Associate Clinical Professor
Department of Medicine
University of Louisville
Partner, Central Allergy & Asthma
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6. Why did you go into AI?
Patients
Continuity, treating families
Interesting diseases
Allergies and asthma
Immunodeficiencies
Science
TLRs and interleukins, oh my
Love working with mice
All of the above
7. What Do You Want to Do?
Just see patients
Work as part of a team
Be the boss
Control all aspects of practice
Win a Nobel prize
Be president of AAAAI or ACAAI
8. Options After Fellowship
First decide your primary job activity
Clinical
Taking care of patients
Research
Clinical, epidemiological, or bench/translational
Education
Other
Administrative/leadership
Regulatory
Entrepreneurship
12. Research Options
Academic
Large range of research options
High level of prestige
Excellent environment for research
Collaboration
Relatively lower pay
You are not your boss
Must pay for yourself - grants
15. Research Options
Industry
You are not your boss
Must have clinical applications
Pay usually good
Research results drive career
Do not have to get grants
17. Single Specialty Options
Private practice
Individual
Be your own boss
Need to develop patient base
Small group
Shared control – cooperation
Built in patient base
Large group
Follow the rules
Must be comfortable with group
18. Multispecialty Groups
Ambulatory +/- hospitals
Large – heavy PCP expansion
Salary + incentive compensation (vs fee for service)
RVU productivity model
Some equity opportunity – shareholder vs. partnership
19. Multispecialty Groups
Pros
Stability/predictability
Built in referrals
More mature business model with metrics
Less administrative hassle
Management opportunities
Cons
Overhead
Inequality in productivity models/compensation plans
Bureaucracy/politics
20. Clinical Options
Academic
You are not the boss
Productivity may not be rewarded
Billing/collections provided
Teaching opportunities
Administrative opportunities
More prestige
22. Job Hunting
Most important thing is to be honest and true to
yourself!
Make a list of the things that are most important for
you and your family
Make a list of the things that are most important
about a potential practice
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23. Important Factors When
Choosing a Job
Geographic location 65%
Practice Setting 49%
Spouse/family reasons 49%
Professional growth opportunity 46%
Call schedule 44%
Compensation 43%
Benefits 39%
Prestige of employer 24%
MGMA
24. Job Hunting
Start looking late summer or early autumn of the last
year of fellowship
Resources
Major specialty journals (JACI and Annals) have job listings
AAAAI and ACAAI have job placement centers on their
websites
ACAAI has job fair at its annual meeting
Local allergy societies in the target region
Word of mouth from physicians—especially from mentors
Medical headhunter services
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25. Job Hunting
• Send letters of inquiry to ALL practices in a
desired location
• Many practices contemplate hiring before
advertising
• Research the practice and personalize the letter if
possible
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26. Have a Successful CV
Be conservative and professional
Use a conservative font and avoid overuse of bold, italics, and
underlined text
Be concise and only include relevant information
Information should be complete, accurate, and current
Print on a laser printer, high quality paper, or consider professional
printing, print on one side only
The first page is considered the most important
Don’t try to fit everything on one page
A 2 to 4-page CV is considered average for a young professional
27. Know the CommunitySize of community
Proximity of family and friends
Employment opportunities for spouse
General economic and social structure
Quality of schools
28. Know the Community
Housing costs
Recreational opportunities
Area and patient demographics
Population
Economic background and stability
Demand for specialty
29. Preparing for the Interview
Collect and analyze preliminary information
Bring a list of prepared questions
Dress for success
Be early
Do not plan any other events for the same day
30. Gathering Information
Number of physicians (small versus large group)
Setting – urban, suburban, or rural
Office locations – single office versus several satellite
offices
31. Gathering Information
Type of practice (academic versus private practice;
single specialty versus multi-specialty)
Patient population characteristics
Commonly encountered conditions
How would a new allergist fit in?
32. Gathering Information
Reason for hiring
Typical workload
Number of patients seen daily
Work hours
On-call days
Seasonality
Hospital consult responsibilities
Location
Frequency
Cross-coverage of other service, if in a multispecialty group
33. Gathering Information
Insurance payor mix
Local practice ecosystem
Other allergists and subspecialists – collegial vs.
competitive
Non-allergy competition
Primary care physicians/NPs and referral patterns
Turnover of physicians and staff
34. Gathering Information
Support staff ratio
Will you have your own nurse or medical assistant
Who’s in charge/who makes the decisions
Leadership and governance
Office manager/administrator
35. Gathering Information
Structure of the group
Independent contractors
Partnerships/PC/PA
Employer/Employee
Is future partnership an option?
How is this determined?
What is the timeframe?
36. Gathering Information
Starting salary
Benefits package
Fair market value of practice/buy-in/partnership
Access to financial books/records
Shadow the physicians in clinic
Speak with staff
37. During the Interview
Listen more than you talk
Promote strengths and any areas of expertise
Act professionally and never feel “too at home”
Do not speak negatively of other practices
38. After the Interview
Make notes of a practice after you interview
Follow up with a thank you letter
Samples in the Practice Management Resource Guide
39. Digging Deeper
Speak with other physicians in the community
What is the reputation of the group?
Speaking with any physician who has left the
practice
Sit in the office waiting room, speak with patients
Call the office to schedule an appointment and
speak with staff
40. Offers
1-3 may be expected
Verbal vs. written
Is NOT an employment agreement
41. Get a Good Attorney
With experience in medical employment contracts
Referrals form the local societies, hospitals or state
societies.
National Society of Certified Healthcare Business
Consultants
http://www.nschbc.org/
42. Resources
AAAAI Practice Management Resources Website.
http://aaaai.org/members/resources/practice_management/
Le, T., ed. AAAAI Practice Management Resource Guide, www.aaaai.org.
NAIA-FIT Mentor-Mentee Program
NAIA Academic Career Development Webinars.
http://aaaai.org/members/only/assemblies/webinars/
Best Friend’s Guide to Finding a Practice. CHG Healthcare Services and ASPR, 2006.
http://www.comphealth.com/pdf/physician/perm/aspr_best_friends_guide.pdf
NEJM Career Center. http://www.nejmjobs.org/career-resources
43.
44. What a Good Contract Does
Clearly spells out specific terms and conditions for
employment including:
Employment status and scope of work
Compensation/benefits
Employer’s responsibilities
Restrictive covenants
Term and termination provisions
Balances the interests of both physician and employer
REMEMBER: GET IT IN WRITING!!!
45. What It Can’t Do
Define the culture, leadership, values of a practice
Ensure that you chose the optimal practice opportunity
for your circumstances
Guarantees a successful employment experience
46. Employment Status
Who are you?
Employee
Contractor
Shareholder
Status can determine:
Type of compensation/benefits
Tax burden
Liability in the event of a malpractice event
52. Malpractice/Tail Coverage
Liability insurance
Ex.: $1MM/incident, $3MM aggregate
Occurrence – cover lawsuit at anytime if policy in force at
time of incident
Claims-made – covers lawsuit if policy in force at time of
filing
Tail coverage – supplements claims-made policy
Coverage for claims made after policy terminated
Trend in shifting cost to employee
55. Other Employment/Activities
Who owns the income?
Negotiating hints:
Carve out anticipated activities
Speaking may be a win-win
Check if your malpractice covers moonlighting
56. Equity
Expectation of achieving partner or shareholder status
Specified in a separate agreement
Usually after a fixed period of time and/or with
qualifying performance
There may be a junior vs. full partner level
There may be a buy-in vs. sweat equity model
Practice may offer financing
There may be a pay-out when you retire
57. Buy-In Factors
Nature of the employment agreement – does
employer profit from your labor?
Practice valuation
Tangible assets
Intangible assets or “good will”
Liabilities
Discounted cash analysis
Value increases with practice revenue
Discounted by expected rate of return
58. Partnership Hints
Get specifics regarding time to partnership, buy-in
requirements, pay-out calculations, etc.
Ask about previous physicians who made or did not
make partner
Ultimately requires mutual trust and open
communications
59. Termination
Termination for cause
Reasons: loss of license or malpractice insurance, death,
felony conviction, “material breach”
Usually immediate
Termination without cause
Employee usually has reciprocal right
Notice periods range 60-90 days
Negotiating hints:
If “material breach,” ask for a period for “cure”
Ask for longer notice period if you think you need it
60. Non-Compete Agreement
Prevents departing physician from competing with
employer
Specifies restricted region (i.e., 5-50 mile radius)
In force for 1-2 years
Enforceability varies from state-to-state
Negotiating hints:
↓ duration, especially for early termination
Limit restricted region to office where you were based
Limit applicability to overlapping services
Substitute with non-solicitation agreement
61. Non-Solicitation Agreement
Physician forbidden from recruiting patients or staff
away from employer
May practice in the same area
Sometime used in place of non-competition agreement
Negotiation hints:
Clarify that public communications like newspaper ads
does not violate agreement
62. Medical Records
Usually belong to employer
Physician may need access to defend against a
malpractice action, credentials committee investigation
or medical board inquiry
Negotiation hint:
Ask for reasonable access should you leave the practice
63. Dispute Resolution
Can mostly be settled between employee and physician
Otherwise, disputes settled in courts
Each party typically covers own fees
Negotiation hints:
Ask that any unresolved dispute be submitted to
confidential mediation and binding arbitration
Ask that loser pays winner’s legal costs
64. Small vs. Large Practice
Small practices may offer more:
Flexibility in contract terms
Willingness to negotiate
Large practices may offer more:
Standardized agreements
Wider range of benefits
65. Final Thoughts
Use an experienced attorney
Request a letter of intent ahead of the contract
Don’t hesitate to negotiate
Beware of one-size-fits-all contracts
Make sure guaranteed pay is enough
Consider total comp package
Never accept a verbal promise. Get it in writing!!!
66. Resources
A Physician’s Guide to Employment Contracts
http://www.mmaonline.net/Portals/mma/Publicati
ons/Reports/Physicians_Guide_to_Employment_Ag
reements.pdf
A Primer on Employment Contracts
http://www.aafp.org/fpm/20021100/73apri.html
Demystifying Common Terms in Employment
Agreements
http://www.aafp.org/fpm/20030600/38demy.html
67. Resources
Lifting Restrictive Covenants
http://www.aafp.org/fpm/20010400/50limi.html
Anatomy of a Physician Employment Contract
http://www.nejmjobs.org/career-
resources/physician-job-contract.aspx
Avoiding Physician Employment Contract Pitfalls
http://www.nejmjobs.org/career-
resources/physician-job-contract-2.aspx
National Society of Certified Healthcare Business
Consultants
http://www.nschbc.org/
68.
69. AAAAI FIT Exit Survey
Web-based survey designed and implemented by
the AAAAI Workforce Committee with input from
the AAAAI Practice Management Committee to:
Document the career choices of graduating FITs and
their rationales
Elucidate the employment market for graduating FITs
Identify trends in the current economic climate
Sent to all FITs graduating June 2012 and June 2013
70. Results
147 responses (78 in 2013, 69 in 2012)
Demographics 2012/2013, n=147
Female (%) 61%
Age, mean (SD) 34.0 (4.0)
Race
White 42%
Asian/Pacific Islander 38%
South Asian 15%
Middle Easterner 5%
Black 0%
IMG (%) 28%
71. Primary Activity
Activity %
Patient Care/Clinical
Practice (Non-Academic)
54
Patient Care/Clinical
Practice (Academic)
30
Research – Academic 7
Other 3
Undecided 3
72. Primary Work Setting
Work Setting 2012 % 2013 %
Solo Practice 1 3
Small Group Allergy Practice 25 24
Large Group Allergy Practice 12 15
Multispecialty Group
Practice/Clinic
12 12
Hospital/Ambulatory Care
Center
3 3
Managed Care/HMO -- 3
Academic Medical Center 35 32
Military/U.S. Government 4 1
Undecided 6 5
78. Timing of Equity Ownership
Clinical Practice %
At starting (eg, buying in to the practice) 4
At or before first anniversary 6
At or before second anniversary 22
At or before third anniversary 34
After third anniversary 13
Not sure 21
79. Personal Debt Load
Academic Practice
<$100,000 64 43
$100,000-199,000 19 34
$200,000+ 17 24
Pearson chi-square (df=2) = 6.2, P = 0.046
81. Long Term Prospects
Will you be there
>3 years?
Academic Practice
Yes 53% 73%
No 11 14
Undecided 36 13
Pearson chi-square (df=2) = 9.7, P = 0.008
82. Ease of Job Hunt
Did you have a difficult time
finding a satisfactory
position?
Academic Practice
Yes 45% 49%
No 51 50
Haven’t looked yet 4 1
Pearson chi-square (df=2) = 0.99, P = 0.611
83. Career Satisfaction
Would you recommend the specialty of Allergy and
Immunology to medical students or other
physicians in training?
%
Yes, with enthusiasm 82
Yes, but lukewarm 18
No, but not strongly 1
No, emphatically --
Editor's Notes
Acad 27 – 20%
Graph – 3 years
Drop?
Acad 100-140
Prac 120-160
Pract – majority use
Graph
Similar use of signing bonuses
Similar benefits distributions, slight better on acad
Clinical Practice = 39
Clinical Practice = 39
Acad 16 / 5 /8/ 29
PP 24 /14/ 11/ 49
Most pract satisified
Acad &gt;50 dissatisfied
Graph
Qualitative -- notes