205 The human fall part 2 wh


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Why did God allow Adam and Eve to fall? and other questions.

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  • Human beings created through Principle. Should live according to Principe. Therefore couldn’t be Princple cause a person to fall. Like train running along a track. Outside force stronger than track can cause to change direwction and leave track. Force of Principle - original mind, conscience
  • Love more important than rules and laws. Heart more important than regulations.
  • God saw possibility of the fall if related to AA. While immature couldn’t govern directly. If kept commandment powerful emotions and desires would not have been stimulated
  • Someitmes people say A&E fell because they were free. But didn’t have to fall. Free will followed by free action. No internal inhibitions or restraints. Want to do and do. Not afraid. Also no restraints such as government preventing one from following impulses. Spontaneous. Can be equate with power. Freedom = free + dom. Dom means doom or law Perfect freedom when free will and free action - love God and do what you will - Augustine Responsibility = ability to respond, make decisions, choices. Bear praise or blame Create good things
  • WHEN EVE about to fall freedom aroused fear and foreboding.
  • Freedom and restoration. Original mind seeks for freedom - freedom to be good, be repsonsibilnsiblee to own Descriptive law - gravity Prescriptive law - ‘do not’
  • 1. Not violate Principle. created God foresaw the possibility of the fall and so to protect and guide his children he gave the commandment with clear explanation of consequences of breaking it. If God had prevented fall he would have been interfering in human responsibility – which would show lack of respect for them. How does a teenager feel is treated as a child? Heart of God – heart of creation, heart of fall, heart of restoration and reconciliation. If the father had not allowed the son to have his inheritance and insisted he stay at home, the father would have kept the son’s body but lost his heart. The son’s heart and mind would be in the city. God gives people the freedom to be responsible, to make mistakes and hopes we will learn from them.
  • Born in midway posiiton
  • Condition for Satan to invade Sin of commission and ommission Nothing wrong in itself See whole picture.
  • DP understanding of OS not same as Christian
  • Feeling loved less inevitable as had wisdom and feelings to sense degree of love Fall not inevitable Became self centred Seeing from own point of view - pornography. Man in factory Comparing, complaining, not grateful, its not fair
  • Acting beyond limits of position or responsibility or authority to fulfil unrighteous desire Pride, I’m too good to do this Easier to see what other person needs to do job
  • Arrogance I can run things better. Taking over other persons job, responsibility Revolution
  • Spreading bad rumours Implicating others in crime Get others involved in crime, bad behaviour Not wantingh to be responsible
  • Make conditions of indemnity
  • 205 The human fall part 2 wh

    1. 2. Human fall Part two
    2. 3. How was it possible for Adam and Eve to fall ?
    3. 4. Growth through Principle Perfection Indirect Dominion Force of Principle Adam & Eve Guides us toward perfection Cannot lead to unprincipled action
    4. 5. What is more powerful than the Principle? Force of the Principle Force of love greater than
    5. 6. Why did God make love stronger than the Principle? <ul><li>Love is motive and purpose for creation of humanity and universe </li></ul><ul><li>Love is source of life and happiness </li></ul><ul><li>For love to fulfil its role it has to be supreme power </li></ul><ul><li>God wants dominion of love over human beings </li></ul>
    6. 7. Possibility of falling Force of the Principle Force of unprincipled love <ul><li>Before perfection - possible to fall </li></ul><ul><li>After perfection – impossible to fall </li></ul>
    7. 8. Possibility of the fall Perfection Indirect dominion Force of Principle Direct dominion Force of unprincipled Love
    8. 9. Why did God give the commandment? Force of the Principle Force of unprincipled love C + The commandment “ Do not eat” To prevent the fall
    9. 10. Perfection Force of Principle Faith in Commandment Force of Unprincipled Love Power of the commandment to prevent the fall COMMANDMENT +
    10. 11. Purpose of the commandment Commandment Faith Lucifer Eve God No unprincipled relationship possible
    11. 12. ‘ You will not surely die’, the serpent said to the woman. ‘When you eat it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God…’ Genesis 3:4 Archangel’s lie
    12. 13. Why did God give the commandment? <ul><li>Human beings have dominion over natural world including angels </li></ul><ul><li>Human beings to perfect themselves through fulfilling responsibility </li></ul><ul><li>Human beings have dignity of children of God </li></ul>Commandment necessary until Adam and Eve were blessed in marriage
    13. 14. Did freedom cause the fall? <ul><li>What is true freedom? </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Free will and free action </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Inner freedom </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>“ The truth will set you free.” John 8:32 </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Freedom = free within the Principle </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Outer freedom - free environment </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>“ The perfect law…gives freedom.” James 1:25 </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Psalm 119 </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>No freedom without responsibility </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>No responsibility without freedom </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Responsible for consequences of actions </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Adam and Eve lost freedom when denied responsibility </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>No freedom without accomplishments. </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Expression of original mind </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Bring joy to God </li></ul></ul></ul>
    14. 15. Limits of freedom STOP Freedom Fall caused by unprincipled love
    15. 16. Freedom and the law STOP Loss of freedom Prescriptive law Descriptive law
    16. 17. How was the fall possible? <ul><li>God wanted children not robots </li></ul><ul><li>God wanted relationships of love </li></ul><ul><li>Love has to be freely and spontaneously given </li></ul><ul><li>God gives His children freedom </li></ul><ul><li>With freedom comes the possibility of evil </li></ul>
    17. 18. <ul><li>Would not violate perfect Principle </li></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Indirect dominion during human growth </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><li>2. Would not recognize unprincipled action </li></ul><ul><li>3. Respects human freedom and responsibility </li></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Child of God </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Has dominion over creation </li></ul></ul></ul>God could not intervene in the fall
    18. 19. Why didn’t God prevent the fall? <ul><li>God gave the commandment </li></ul><ul><li>God respects us </li></ul><ul><li>The Parable of the Prodigal Son </li></ul>
    19. 20. Evil, sin and Satan “ Satan is the real spirit of [lies]…Although intangible and immaterial, it has a personality, a true being…Pervading this personality is an active presence of hate.” C.S Lewis Screwtape Letters Scott Peck American Psychologist People of the Lie “ Satan’s greatest deception is to persaude people that he does not exist.”
    20. 21. All people affected by the fall Lucifer “ Original Sin” Evil elements Descendants Adam Eve Children Evil elements Evil elements Evil elements
    21. 22. Original Nature Good inclination We inherited contradictory nature Goodness
    22. 23. Original nature Fallen nature Goodness Evil Evil inclination Good inclination We inherited contradictory nature
    23. 24. What is sin? <ul><li>Sin is a thought or deed which violates heavenly law so that one forms a relationship with Satan </li></ul><ul><li>Good and evil determined by </li></ul><ul><ul><li>motivation </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>direction </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>purpose </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>consequences </li></ul></ul>
    24. 25. What types of sin are there? Original Sin
    25. 26. Tree of sin Collective Sin Original Sin Inherited Sin Personal Sin
    26. 27. Tree of sin Collective Sin Original Sin Personal Sin Inheritable Sin We can work to solve The Messiah is needed to solve the root of sin
    27. 28. What is fallen nature? <ul><li>Wrongly directed original nature passed from Lucifer to Eve, from fallen Eve to Adam and from both of them to all their descendants. </li></ul>
    28. 29. Not seeing or loving as God does Self-centred Jealousy Critical attitude Adam Archangel God Eve
    29. 30. Leaving one’s proper position Not fulfilling responsibility Doing someone else’s job Pride Adam Archangel God Eve Archangel
    30. 31. Reversing the order of dominion Arrogance Exploitation Adam Archangel God Eve
    31. 32. Multiplication of sin Adam Descendants Spreading lies Peer pressure Implicating others Irresponsibility Archangel God Eve
    32. 33. Evil Spirit Satan How Satan influences us Evil thoughts and actions Physical Self Spirit Self
    33. 34. Person on Earth Influence of good or evil spirits Good Spirits <ul><li>Health </li></ul><ul><li>Unselfishness </li></ul><ul><li>Peace </li></ul><ul><li>Harmony </li></ul>God
    34. 35. Person on earth Influence of good or evil spirits Evil spirits <ul><li>Sickness </li></ul><ul><li>Selfishness </li></ul><ul><li>Guilt </li></ul><ul><li>Conflict </li></ul>Good spirits <ul><li>Health </li></ul><ul><li>Unselfishness </li></ul><ul><li>Peace </li></ul><ul><li>Harmony </li></ul>Satan God
    35. 36. Evil Spirit Satan Separating from Satan Physical Self Spirit Self Good thoughts and actions
    36. 37. Next How has God been restoring the fall?