Even though the fall of man was the fault of human beings, people feel that God should be doing something about it. People sense that we cannot solve the problem ourselves because there is no one pure enough or good enough. And God has been working his providence to save his children to restore or put right the mistakes that were made. This is the history of religion. To understand it we have to understand the principles that can be uncovered in the Bible. These Principles are based on the Principles that we explored in the lecture on the Principle of Creation.
To answer such ultimate questions or to try to explain such mysteries religions use myths. To call something a myth doesn’t mean it isn’t true. On the contrary it is a way of exploring and transmitting spiritual truths. Many levels of interpretation.
The story or myth of A&E
The Bible contains many genres of writing. Some is historical, some wisdom literature, some poetry, some myth etc. To take it all literally at face value is to misunderstand it. Have to be discerning. Prayerfully interpret it, guided by reason, tradition and the Holy Spirit. So let us examine and unpick the metaphors and symbols in the story. Detective work
Also II Peter 2:4 Michael casting Lucifer out of heaven
I recently revealed this: did God have a brother or not? What do you think? God created Adam, Eve and the angelic world not only by Himself. Nobody knows this. I found out as the responsible person for this world that God didnt create Adam only by Himself. Then who created His brother? God, to become the elder brother, created His younger brother, the archangel, which is 종 / servant. God couldnt do the creation by Himself, but did it together with His brother. God and His brother, as the subject and object partners, discussed and supported each other for the purpose. Without a partner, there is no happiness and so in the process of creation there was ‘ 형 / elder brother’ and ‘ 동생 / younger brother.’ God, together with His younger brother, started to create Adam and Eve. Why did God create His brother half-perfected and started to create Adam and Eve? Adam and Eve would have been son and daughter of ‘ 형 / Elder Brother (God)' and there was an amazing promise that after Adam and Eve started their family, the Elder Brother (God) would give an even better son and daughter for His ‘ 동생 / younger brother.’ That’s why Lucifer as the younger brother, was happy in the process of the creation. From this perspective, the beginning of the cosmos is Adam’s family created with joy by elder and younger brothers.
Now God had told A&E that you must not eat the fruit. Also they would die on the SAME day as they ate of it. In other words NOT 80 years later. So physical death not a result of the fall but is natural. They didn’t die the same day so it obviously wasn’t a literal poisonous fruit. So what was it?
The fruit is symbolic – real fruit could cause stomach ache but not sin. What does ‘fruit’ symbolise in the Bible?
Song of Songs – love poetry between bride and bridegroom. Here the bride is talking about her bridegroom. Tree = man; Fruit – literal? Slang, euphamism, for love
Bridegroom speaking. Locked garden = virgin. Again fruits = love
Bride talking – what fruit is she inviting bridegroom to eat? Apple tree – giving birth
In the advice that a father gives to his son he warns him about prostitutes and their activities. In this advice eating is used as a metaphor for having sex.
Is adultery an eating disorder? Again eating a metaphor for sex
If you eat an unripe fruit it leads to stomach ache. If you wait till it is ripe it is very enjoyable to eat and life giving. God gave commandment to protect A&E God wanted Adam and Eve to eat the fruit when they had grown up and matured. Then he would have blessed them in divine marriage and they would have consummated their marriage. They would have experienced God’s love in their marriage relationship and would have experienced the deepest ecstacy and joy in their sexual relationship. The children of such a marriage would have been sinless and good.
The happiest day for God would have been seeing his children happily married and having a happy family
Rewind to see what happened
The sin of the archangel was fornication. With whom?
Offering fruit to Eve was having sexual relationship Satan then whispered to both of them, in order to uncover what had been hidden from each other of their private parts Quar’an 7:20 When they tasted of the tree, their private parts became uncovered to them and they began to cover themselves with the leaves of paradise. 7:22 . . . Stripping them of their garments to expose their shame to each other. 7:22 Had clothes on before fall. Wahb bib Munabbih - Their clothing was light upon their private parts. - Holy Place. &quot;How did God’s younger brother, which is Adam’s younger brother, fall? It was February when (Eve) was 17 years old just before marriage. God had Lucifer take care of Adam’s future wife, which is the future wife of the Elder Brother (God), until their maturity. Hence, Lucifer had more intimate time with Eve than Adam did. So for Eve, Lucifer, the younger brother was closer than Adam, the future husband. When she looked around herself, she noticed the entire creature reproduce their offspring. In the world of emotion, woman is more advanced than man by one year when they were around that age for three years. Why?&quot;
Satan then whispered to both of them, in order to uncover what had been hidden from each other of their private parts Quar’an 7:20 When they tasted of the tree, their private parts became uncovered to them and they began to cover themselves with the leaves of paradise. 7:22 . . . Stripping them of their garments to expose their shame to each other. 7:22 Had clothes on before fall. Wahb bib Munabbih - Their clothing was light upon their private parts. - Holy Place.
After the fall they were ashamed of their nakedness. Little boy caught eating biscuit -> covers his mouth. Adam and Eve covered sexual organs not their mouths. After eating the fruit A&E felt dirty, guilty. No joy. Adam and Eve before the Fall were close in heart and innocently open with each other and with God; as it is written, they were not ashamed of their nakedness. Yet after they fell, they felt ashamed of their nakedness. They covered their lower parts with fig leaves and hid among the trees of the garden, fearing that God would see them. This shame was an indication of their inner reality, for they had formed a bond of blood ties with Satan by committing sin with their sexual parts. By covering their lower parts and hiding, they expressed their guilty consciences, which made them feel ashamed to come before God.
Main cause of broken homes is misuse of love. Adultery destroys marriage -> divorce and break up of family
Sexual sin corrupts the soul and the heart. It is an act against God who is love.
This is what should have happened. A&E should have grown to maturity to be incarnation of the word of God. As such they would have won the respect of Lucifer who would have joyfully become their servant. He would have realised that God dwelled in A&E and by serving them he could serve God. God wanted A&E to be Lords of Creation including lord of angels. I Cor. 8:3 “Do you not know that we are to judge the angels?” God loved Lucifer very much and he basked in God’s glory. However, God loved A&E as his children. L didn’t think they deserved it. He thought God had made a mistake. “ I am going to place a Khalifah in the earth 2:30 “ And he is the One Who has made you to suceed one another on the earth.” 6:165 - lineage “ And he will make you inheritors of the earth (generation after generation.) 27:62
Irenaeus was the first theologian of the Catholic Church, Bishop of Lyons AD 160 and important link between east and west churches. Eastern Orthodox Churches follow Irenaeus in believing A&E created immature. Augustine in 5 th century suggested they were created perfect and fully formed – Michaelangelo depiction follows Augustine. Jesus also ‘increased in wisdom and in stature and in favour with God’ Luke 2:52
Lucifer was channel of God’s love to angelic world. He was closer to God than any other being as he was the most like God. After God created A&E as his children he loved them many times more than he loved Lucifer. Whom he created and loved as his servant. A&E more like God than Lucifer so had a greater capacity to receive God’s love. God’s love to Lucifer didn’t change. Parable of labourers in Vinneyard. Mt 20:1-15 Lucifer wanted a lineage After she ate the fruit Eve realised that she had sinned and felt guilty and cut off from God. Her eyes had been opened – she had lost her innocence. She realised that Adam was supposed to be her husband and not Lucifer.
Lucifer very arrogant. He thought God had made a mistake. He thought he was better than Adam and Eve. He didn’t respect A& E and refused to bow to them. Instead he wanted to control them and replace God as their parent. The way to gain control of them and take the place of God was to make them break the commandment and engage is a love relationship with him. FALLEN NATURE Lucifer saw Adam from own point of view. Self centred. Couldn’t respect. Didn’t see A&E as God’s children but as rivals. Envy. Refused to bow down. 2. Left position as servant of God. Wanted to replace God Frank Tallis, the author of Love Sick, describes jealousy as ﾒ a necessary condition of love because its absence suggests indifference and impartiality: a level of detachment that we cannot reconcile with passion and desire ﾓ . “ What prevented you from prostrating yourself when I coammanded you? He answered, “I am better than him; you have created me from fire, and you cretaed him from clay.” Qur’an 7:11,12 Ez 28: 1 The word of the LORD came to me: 2 “Son of man, say to the ruler of Tyre, ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: “‘In the pride of your heart you say, “I am a god; I sit on the throne of a god in the heart of the seas.” But you are a mere mortal and not a god, though you think you are as wise as a god. “‘ You were the seal of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. 13 You were in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone adorned you: carnelian, chrysolite and emerald, topaz, onyx and jasper, lapis lazuli, turquoise and beryl. [ b ] Your settings and mountings [ c ] were made of gold; on the day you were created they were prepared. 14 You were anointed as a guardian cherub, for so I ordained you. You were on the holy mount of God; you walked among the fiery stones. 15 You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created till wickedness was found in you. 16 Through your widespread trade you were filled with violence, and you sinned. So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God, and I expelled you, guardian cherub, from among the fiery stones. 17 Your heart became proud on account of your beauty, and you corrupted your wisdom because of your splendor.
Everything created to be governed by love Love source of happiness More love -> more beautiiful => Eve very beautiful to lucifer When Eve responded Lucifer enjoyed feeling Excessive desire
“ Shall I guide you to a Tree of Eternity that will never waste away?” Qur’an 20:10 “ Your Lord has only forbidden you to approach this Tree, lest you become angels or immortal.” And he swore to them: “Truly I am a sincere advisor.” Thus he led them on by delusion. Qur’an 7:20-22
Give and take of love -> exchange of elements.
So she offered Adam and fruit
Dread and AA wisdom - knew Adam was supposed to be husband Adam appeared very beautiful to Eve as still in God’s love Eve wanted to be loved by Adam. Thought by seducing could receive love. Adam didn’t love but sexual desire aroused - lust. Desire for unity. Adam desire respect. By dominating him not respecting.
Blessings became curses. People born damaged, spiritually deformed. Original sin – easier to be bad than to be good
Conflict between husband and wife. Women abused and mistreated throughout history. Men also nagged and dragged down by wives. Conflict between parents and children – generation gap – child abuse etc. Familial problems expand to social and world conflict. Ultimately Satan’s lineage – Satan’s habits and way of life. “You are of your Father the devil and your will is to do your Father’s desires”. Satan’s lineage
People dominated by creation – materialism, consumerism also neglect and exploitation of environment
The original German title given to the work by Munch was Der Schrei der Natur (The Scream of Nature). The Norwegian word skrik is usually translated as scream, but is cognate with the English shriek. Occasionally, the painting has been called The Cry. In a page in his diary headed Nice 22.01.1892, Munch described his inspiration for the image thus: “ I was walking along a path with two friends—the sun was setting—suddenly the sky turned blood red—I paused, feeling exhausted, and leaned on the fence—there was blood and tongues of fire above the blue-black fjord and the city—my friends walked on, and I stood there trembling with anxiety—and I sensed an infinite scream passing through nature.
The human condition
“I do not understand my own actions. For I
do not do what I want, but I do the very
thing I hate. For I know that nothing good
dwells in me, that is in my flesh. I can will
what is right but I cannot do it. For I do not
do the good I want, but the evil I do not
want is what I do.”
God would not create us
with opposing purposes
Like a broken
The mystery of evil
If everything God created was good,
where does evil come from?
If God is good, almighty and knows what is
going on, why does He allow people to
The story of Adam and Eve
Tree of the Knowledge
of Good and Evil
Much of the Bible is written in metaphor and symbol.
We need to understand how the people who wrote it
E.g. A tree is a symbol for a person
“For the vineyard of the Lord is the
House of Israel, and the men of
Judah are his pleasant planting . . .”
“I am the vine, you are the branches.”
What was the serpent?
“Now the serpent was more
subtle than any other wild
creature that the Lord God
had made.” Genesis 3:1
“And that great dragon
was thrown down, that
ancient serpent, who is
called the Devil and
Satan, the deceiver of
the whole world; he
and his angels were
thrown down with him.”
Serpent = Devil = Angel Lucifer
Did God create Satan?
Everything God created was good
Evil did not exist from the beginning
Lucifer was created as a good angel
He became an evil being
The Principle rejects dualism
Good and evil ‘gods’ always existed
Spiritual is good; physical is evil
Where do angels fit in?
Created by God
“You, Lord alone made heaven, the heaven
of heavens, with all their host, (angels) the
earth and everything.” Neh. 9:6
How were they created?
Praise ye him all his angels,
Let them praise the name of the Lord, for
he commanded and they were created.
When were they created?
Where were you when I laid the foundations of
the earth? When the morning stars sang
together, and all the sons of God (angels)
shouted for joy? Job 38:1,4,7
Helped God with the creation of man
“Let us make man in our image . . . .” Genesis 1:26
Servants and messengers of God
Take care of Adam and Eve
To be servants of Adam and Eve
“Do you not know that we are to judge the
angels?” I Corinthians 8:3
“You may freely eat
of every tree of the
garden; but of the
tree of the
knowledge of good
and evil you shall
not eat, for in the
day that you eat of it
you shall die.”
What was the fruit?
“Here and understand: not
what goes into the mouth
defiles a man, but what
comes out of the mouth,
this defiles a man.”
Fruit in the Old Testament
“As an apple tree among the
trees of the wood, so is my
beloved among young men. With
great delight I sat in his shadow,
and his fruit was sweet to my
Song of Solomon 2:3-5
“A garden locked is my sister, my
bride, a garden locked, a fountain
sealed. Your shoots are an
orchard of pomegranates with all
Song of Solomon 4:12-13
“Let my beloved come to his garden,
and eat its choicest fruits.”
Song of Solomon 4:16
“Under the apple tree I awakened
you. There your mother was in travail
Song of Solomon 8:3
Eating - a metaphor for sex
“And to him who is without sense she
says, ‘Stolen water is sweet, and bread
eaten in secret is pleasant.’ But he does
not know that the dead are there, that her
guests are in the depths of Sheol.”
“This is the way of the adulteress, she
eats, and wipes her mouth and says,
‘I have done no wrong.’”
The meaning of the fruit
Trees multiply through fruit
People multiply through love
represents sexual love
The fruit was good and necessary for God’s plan to be realised
The Tree of the Knowledge of
Good and Evil
The tree could produce either
good or evil fruit depending
on whether love was
God-centred or self-centred
‘To know’ a woman - a Biblical metaphor for sex
When should the fruit be eaten?
Mature and married
Immature and unmarried
God gave the commandment
to protect Adam and Eve
Our highest values –
realized through sexuality
What should have happened?
Adam and Eve should have achieved
individual maturity – the First Blessing
Then God would have blessed them in
divine marriage – the Second Blessing
They would have had children and
established a happy family
Do not “eat”
Free to “eat” Blessed in marriage
What did happen?
Adam and Eve had children – Cain and Abel
It was not a loving family – Cain murdered Abel
Adam and Eve did not have a happy marriage
Adam and Eve had a sexual relationship without
being blessed by God in marriage
Adam and Eve did not fulfil the First Blessing
before they had a sexual relationship
Free to “eat”
Do not “eat”
What was the sin of the angel?
“Remember too the angels, how some of
them were not content to keep the
dominion given to them but abandoned
their proper home; and God has reserved
them for judgement on the great Day, . . .
Remember Sodom and Gomorrah and the
neighbouring towns; like the angels, they
committed fornication and followed
unnatural lusts; . . .”
What was the sin of Lucifer?
fornication – illicit
sexual relationship –
What does the Qur’an say?
When they tasted of the tree, their private
parts became uncovered to them and they
began to cover themselves with the leaves
of paradise. Surah 7:22
Children of Adam! Let not Satan deceive
you in the manner he deceived your
parents out of Paradise, pulling off from
them their clothing to reveal to them their
shame. Surah 7:27
Possibility of sexual relationship
between humans and angels
• Records of substantial interaction between
human and spirit beings
All the emotions and sensations
felt between a person and
a spirit are exactly the same
as those felt between
earthly people. EDP, 63
What was the sin of Adam and
Before the Fall:
“And the man and his wife were both naked, and
they were not ashamed.”
After the Fall:
“Then the eyes of both were opened, and they
knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig
leaves together and made themselves aprons.”
Adam and Eve had an illicit sexual relationship
Other evidence that the fall was
an illicit sexual relationship
‘Picking a fruit’ - euphemism for sexual love
God is love yet sexual love which is holy and
wholesome is often thought of as shameful
Sexual immorality led to the downfall of great
men and nations
Many social problems traced to broken homes
Immorality the worst sin
“Shun immorality. Every other sin which a
man commits is outside the body; but the
immoral man sins against his own body.
Do you not know that your body is a
temple of the Holy Spirit within you, which
you have from God?”
I Corinthians 6:18-19
How did it all start?
God loved his children much
more than he loved his
servant Lucifer. God’s love
for Lucifer did not change.
It was the same before and
after the creation of human
beings. When Lucifer saw
that God loved Adam and
Eve more than him, he felt
as if there had been a
decrease in the love he
received from God. EDP, 63
What was the motivation
for the fall?
Lucifer, feeling as though he was
receiving less love than he
deserved, wanted to grasp the
same central position in human
society as he enjoyed in the
angelic world, as the channel of
God’s love. This was why he
seduced Eve and this was the
motivation of the spiritual fall.
Rebellion in heaven
“How you are fallen from
heaven, O Lucifer, son of the
Dawn! How you are cut down
to the ground, you who laid
the nations low. You said in
your heart, ‘I will ascend to
heaven; above the stars of
God I will set my throne on
high; . . . I will make myself
like the Most High.’”
What does the Qur’an say?
We said to the angels: 'Prostrate before
Adam.’ They all prostrated except Iblis: he
was not one of those who fell prostrate.
Allah said: 'What prevented you from
prostrating, when I commanded you to do
so?' He said: 'I am better than he. You
created me from fire, and him You created
from clay.’ Surah 7:11,12
Origin of the fall
Felt less love
Parable of Labourers
in Vineyard Mt. 20:1-15
The fundamental motivation . . .
lay in the envy the Archangel felt
towards Adam, the beloved of God.
What are envy and jealousy?
Jealousy is the result or fear of losing someone or
something that one is attached to or possesses that
one believes one deserves to another person (e.g.
the transfer of a lover's affections)
Envy is the resentment caused by another person
having something that one does not have, but
desires for oneself
Malicious envy - wish that the other lacked something
and happy if they lose it even if one doesn’t get it
Benign envy - a type of positive motivational force
How could Lucifer feel jealous?
How can there be anything such as envy and jealousy in
an archangel, whom God created for a good purpose?
The archangel was endowed with desire and intellect as
a part of his original nature. Because the archangel
possessed an intellect, he could compare and discern
that God's love for human beings was greater than the
love God gave to him. Because he also possessed
desires, he had a natural yearning for God to love him
more. This desire of the heart was naturally conducive to
envy and jealousy. Envy is an inevitable by-product of
the original nature, like the shadow cast by an object in
Lucifer tempts Eve
EveWanted to experience
love and become like
God before time was ripe
When Eve responded to his
temptation, the angel felt
the stimulation of her love
to be deliciously enticing.
“ ‘You will not surely die’, the serpent said
to the woman. ‘When you eat it your eyes
will be opened, and you will be like
Fall between Lucifer and Eve
Eve before the Fall
was open to sensing the
Eve received from Lucifer
• Feeling of dread from guilty
• Lucifer’s wisdom that Adam
was intended spouse
God’s heart was broken
God lost object of his love, the very purpose
for which He had created the universe
Infinite love infinite grief, sorrow, hurt
God was betrayed by Lucifer whom He had
trusted to take care of His children
God screaming at what happened to His
God weeps at the way His world is
“You shall say to them this word: ‘Let my
eyes run down with tears night and day,
and let them not cease, for the virgin
daughter of my people is smitten with a
great wound, with a very grievous blow. If I
go into the field, behold, those slain by the
sword! And if I enter the city, behold, the
diseases of famine.’”
“The Lord saw that the wickedness of man
was great in the earth, and that every
imagination of the thoughts of his heart
was only evil continually. And the Lord
was sorry that he had made man on the
earth, and it grieved him to his heart.”
Loss of relationship with God
“My soul thirsts for God, for the living
God . . . My tears have been my food
day and night . . .”
How did Satan come to rule?
“The woman whom you gave to be with me,
she gave me the fruit of the tree and I ate.”
beguiled me, and I
God: “Where are you?”
“Who told you that
you were naked?
“Have you eaten of
the tree of which I
not to eat?”
Adam blamed Eve; Eve blamed Lucifer.
Denial of responsibility; denial of position; loss of freedom
Loss of the first blessing
spirit and flesh
People born with
“You are of your father the devil, and
your will is to do your father’s desires.”
Good inclination vs evil inclination
Loss of the second blessing
“I will greatly multiply
your pain in child-
bearing; in pain you
shall bring forth children,
yet your desire shall be
for your husband and he
shall rule over you.”
Loss of the third blessing
“Cursed is the ground
because of you; in toil
you shall eat of it all
the days of your life;
thorns and thistles it
shall bring forth to
Why didn’t God stop the fall
and other issues