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Ethical Challenges with Offshoring

                Karlis Lucs
              Andrejs Pašņevs
              Gurubhaskar C.
               Vishal Verma

             November 22, 2012
        Riga Business School, Riga LV
Why are we here?

        Offshoring brouhaha
Different stakeholders, expectations
      No one approach is right
3 things

      Jobs
Worker conditions
 Environment
1st   issue: Job Export
What do the people think?


  Loss of jobs = unethical move
What does media say?
Goldman Sachs is set to cut 250 jobs across
its global operations as it moves some work
                   to India.

  Tax break fuels anger over outsourcing-
           related layoffs in Fla.

    Forrester Research: Outsourcing jobs
outflow estimated to hit 3.3 million by 2015.
What do economists say?

Short term job loss = cheaper goods
Cheaper goods = more money saved
 More money saved = More money
         spent elsewhere
  More money spent = new jobs
What’s the truth?
Semi skilled workers – worst affected
            1/3  No job
          1/3  Less money
       1/3  Life’s the same!
What’s the truth?

               Lose-Win?
            China ≈ Germany

min 25k yuan/yr - 77% (2008)  10% (2015):
         FDI(2003) = 82x FDI(1983)
What’s the truth?

    Offshorers ≠ Biggest job creators
           (2% - 1990 - 2008)
Increased efficiency = More hirings than
                 layoffs
             (2000 – 2007)
What’s the truth?

     Low unemployment?
1983-10.4%, 1992-7.3%, 2008-5%

      SMEs save the day
So what’s the conclusion?

  Offshoring ain’t all that bad.
2nd   issue: Work conditions
What do people think?

Offshoring = bad work conditions =
             unethical
What does media say?

 Forced to stand for 24 hours, suicide nets,
 toxin exposure and explosions': Inside the
  Chinese factories making iPads for Apple

 H&M, Walmart, Abercrombie & Fitch, the
  Gap, Nike, Limited Brands, Calvin Klien,
Phillip Morris, Victoria’s Secret, KYE, Forever
   21, Aeropostale, Toys ‘R’ Us, Hershey’s
What’s the truth?
      8 Samsung factories
>100 hrs overtime; 36 hrs legal
  Salary = ½ overtime money
 Standing work – 11 to 12 hrs
       No labor contracts
What’s the truth?
 10 Foxconn factories
>50% dispatch workers
   Local min. wage
   300 hrs/month
 Max median age: 32
What’s the truth?
              Top 10 factories
         Min. wage not sufficient
          Overtime = 36-160 hrs
Exceedingly high labor utilization; one action
              every 3 seconds
             No labor contracts
              1/3 workers < 18
Here’s the proof

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO
            g8QbKEkL8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk-
             xqPKOxl4
What do the workers feel like?

   Chinese least job-satisfied among
       Asians despite max. jobs

   Only 49% consider their job ideal
So what’s the conclusion?

   Offshoring hurts people.
3rd issue: Environment
What do people think?

Offshoring = bad environment =
           unethical
What’s the truth?

Top CO2 emitters: China, US, EU,
         India, Russia
What’s the truth?

Offshoring = low CO2 emission from
                US
What’s the conclusion?

Offshoring = Movement of carbon
            footprint
 Offshoring = Pollution anyway!
4th issue: There is no 4th issue
Final Picture
                             +ve stakeholders                                           -ve stakeholders

Jobs                         Companies (short run)                                       Home people (short run)
                             Home people (long run)
                             Host people
                             Host govt.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Worker                       Home businesses                                            Host people
Conditions

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Environment                  Home businesses (short run)                                 Everyone
                             Home people (short run)
Thank you!

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Ethical Challenges of Offshoring Jobs

  • 1. Ethical Challenges with Offshoring Karlis Lucs Andrejs Pašņevs Gurubhaskar C. Vishal Verma November 22, 2012 Riga Business School, Riga LV
  • 2. Why are we here? Offshoring brouhaha Different stakeholders, expectations No one approach is right
  • 3. 3 things Jobs Worker conditions Environment
  • 4. 1st issue: Job Export
  • 5. What do the people think? Loss of jobs = unethical move
  • 6. What does media say? Goldman Sachs is set to cut 250 jobs across its global operations as it moves some work to India. Tax break fuels anger over outsourcing- related layoffs in Fla. Forrester Research: Outsourcing jobs outflow estimated to hit 3.3 million by 2015.
  • 7. What do economists say? Short term job loss = cheaper goods Cheaper goods = more money saved More money saved = More money spent elsewhere More money spent = new jobs
  • 8. What’s the truth? Semi skilled workers – worst affected 1/3  No job 1/3  Less money 1/3  Life’s the same!
  • 9. What’s the truth? Lose-Win? China ≈ Germany min 25k yuan/yr - 77% (2008)  10% (2015): FDI(2003) = 82x FDI(1983)
  • 10. What’s the truth? Offshorers ≠ Biggest job creators (2% - 1990 - 2008) Increased efficiency = More hirings than layoffs (2000 – 2007)
  • 11. What’s the truth? Low unemployment? 1983-10.4%, 1992-7.3%, 2008-5% SMEs save the day
  • 12. So what’s the conclusion? Offshoring ain’t all that bad.
  • 13. 2nd issue: Work conditions
  • 14. What do people think? Offshoring = bad work conditions = unethical
  • 15. What does media say? Forced to stand for 24 hours, suicide nets, toxin exposure and explosions': Inside the Chinese factories making iPads for Apple H&M, Walmart, Abercrombie & Fitch, the Gap, Nike, Limited Brands, Calvin Klien, Phillip Morris, Victoria’s Secret, KYE, Forever 21, Aeropostale, Toys ‘R’ Us, Hershey’s
  • 16. What’s the truth? 8 Samsung factories >100 hrs overtime; 36 hrs legal Salary = ½ overtime money Standing work – 11 to 12 hrs No labor contracts
  • 17. What’s the truth? 10 Foxconn factories >50% dispatch workers Local min. wage 300 hrs/month Max median age: 32
  • 18. What’s the truth? Top 10 factories Min. wage not sufficient Overtime = 36-160 hrs Exceedingly high labor utilization; one action every 3 seconds No labor contracts 1/3 workers < 18
  • 19. Here’s the proof http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO g8QbKEkL8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk- xqPKOxl4
  • 20. What do the workers feel like? Chinese least job-satisfied among Asians despite max. jobs Only 49% consider their job ideal
  • 21. So what’s the conclusion? Offshoring hurts people.
  • 23. What do people think? Offshoring = bad environment = unethical
  • 24. What’s the truth? Top CO2 emitters: China, US, EU, India, Russia
  • 25.
  • 26.
  • 27. What’s the truth? Offshoring = low CO2 emission from US
  • 28. What’s the conclusion? Offshoring = Movement of carbon footprint Offshoring = Pollution anyway!
  • 29. 4th issue: There is no 4th issue
  • 30. Final Picture +ve stakeholders -ve stakeholders Jobs Companies (short run) Home people (short run) Home people (long run) Host people Host govt. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Worker Home businesses Host people Conditions ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Environment Home businesses (short run) Everyone Home people (short run)