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  1. 1. GREENLEE: Rodriguez was not a politician and had no lust for power. He was a decent, intelligent man, and in his six-month stint showed that he could govern honestly and well. His administration was competent and apolitical. His cabinet was professional. His foreign minister knew about the world and how diplomacy worked. It was a bright interval for a country that had been beset by so much turmoil. Since Rodriguez's main job was to bring the country to elections within six months, the protesters, I think, gave him a break they would not have given Vaca Diez. More pointedly, Evo Morales and the MAS, in a strong political position looking to elections, let him run the country. RRooddrriigguueezz wwaass aann hhoonnoorraabbllee aanndd ggoooodd mmaann iinn aa ddiiffffiiccuulltt ssppoott.. AAnndd ssoommeetthhiinngg hhaappppeenneedd dduurriinngg hhiiss pprreessiiddeennccyy tthhaatt hhaass hhuurrtt hhiimm ppeerrssoonnaallllyy,, ppoolliittiiccaallllyy aanndd eevveenn eeccoonnoommiiccaallllyy tthhaatt iinnvvoollvveedd tthhee UUnniitteedd SSttaatteess.. DDuurriinngg hhiiss ttiimmee iinn ooffffiiccee wwee uunnddeerrttooookk ttoo hheellpp BBoolliivviiaa ddiissppoossee ooff ssoommee ssuurrffaaccee--ttoo--aaiirr mmiissssiilleess tthhaatt hhaadd ddeetteerriioorraatteedd ttoo tthhee ppooiinntt wwhheerree tthheeyy wweerree uunnssaaffee.. TThheeiirr sseeccuurree ssttoorraaggee aanndd mmoonniittoorriinngg hhaadd aallssoo bbeeccoommee aa cchhaalllleennggee ffoorr tthhee BBoolliivviiaann mmiilliittaarryy.. AAfftteerr 99//1111 tthheerree wwaass aa ppuusshh wwoorrllddwwiiddee ttoo rreedduuccee tthhee nnuummbbeerrss ooff ssuucchh mmiissssiilleess,, ccaalllleedd MMAANNPPAADDSS ((MMaann--ppoorrttaabbllee aaiirr--ddeeffeennssee ssyysstteemmss)),, tthhaatt wweerree iinn ddaannggeerr ooff ffaalllliinngg iinnttoo tthhee hhaannddss ooff tteerrrroorriissttss.. TThhiiss wwaass nnoott jjuusstt aa UU..SS.. iinniittiiaattiivvee,, bbuutt aallssoo wweellccoommeedd bbyy tthhee OOAASS,, aammoonngg ootthheerr iinntteerrnnaattiioonnaall eennttiittiieess.. WWee hhaadd bbeeeenn iinn aa ddiiaalloogguuee wwiitthh tthhee BBoolliivviiaann mmiilliittaarryy ffoorr mmaannyy mmoonntthhss aabboouutt tthheeiirr uunnssttaabbllee MMAANNPPAADDSS.. TThhaatt ddiiaalloogguuee wwaass nnoott aaccttiivvee aatt tthhee ssttaarrtt ooff tthhee RRooddrriigguueezz pprreessiiddeennccyy.. BBuutt oonnee ddaayy,, wwiitthhoouutt RRooddrriigguueezz''ss iinnvvoollvveemmeenntt oorr eevveenn kknnoowwlleeddggee,, aa sseenniioorr BBoolliivviiaann mmiilliittaarryy ooffffiicceerr ssuuggggeesstteedd tthhaatt wwee hheellpp ttaakkee ccaarree ooff tthhee mmiissssiillee pprroobblleemm.. HHee aasskkeedd iinn rreettuurrnn tthhaatt wwee pprroovviiddee BBoolliivviiaa wwiitthh sseevveerraall llaarrggee FFoorrdd ttrruucckkss,, wwhhiicchh wweerree uusseeffuull ffoorr ttrraannssppoorrttiinngg ttrrooooppss aanndd eeqquuiippmmeenntt.. WWee aaggrreeeedd.. LLaatteerr,, hhee aasskkeedd ffoorr aa ppaayymmeenntt ffoorr tthhee mmiilliittaarryy----nnoott ffoorr hhiimm----iinn rreeccooggnniittiioonn ooff BBoolliivviiaa''ss ccooooppeerraattiioonn oonn tthhee bbrrooaaddeerr aannttii--tteerrrroorriissmm ffrroonntt.. TThhee ccoommppeennssaattiioonn wwaass ttoo bbee iinnsstteeaadd ooff tthhee ttrruucckkss aanndd uusseedd ffoorr nneeeeddeedd eeqquuiippmmeenntt.. TThhiiss wwaass wwoorrkkeedd oouutt.. II bbeelliieevvee RRooddrriigguueezz wwaass bbrriieeffeedd ggeenneerraallllyy oonn tthhiiss iinniittiiaattiivvee,, bbuutt pprroobbaabbllyy nnoott iinn ddeettaaiill.. TThhee eemmbbaassssyy''ss ccoonnttaaccttss wweerree wwiitthh sseenniioorr ddeeffeennssee aanndd mmiilliittaarryy ooffffiicciiaallss.. WWhhaatt iiss cclleeaarr iiss tthhaatt RRooddrriigguueezz ddiidd nnoott kknnooww tthhee ttiimmiinngg ooff tthhee mmiissssiillee ttrraannssffeerr oorr ppeerrhhaappss eevveenn aabboouutt tthhee ooffff--sseettttiinngg ccoommppeennssaattiioonn.. PPeerrhhaappss hhee tthhoouugghhtt tthhaatt hhee wwoouulldd hhaavvee aa cchhaannccee ttoo llooookk tthhee mmaatttteerr oovveerr iinn ddeettaaiill.. II ddoonn''tt
  2. 2. kknnooww.. WWhhaatt II ddoo kknnooww iiss tthhaatt hhee wwaass oouutt ooff tthhee ccoouunnttrryy,, iinn BBrraazziill,, wwhheenn tthhee ttrraannssffeerr wwaass eeffffeecctteedd.. FFoorr uuss tthhiiss wwaass aann ooppeerraattiioonnaall mmaatttteerr,, aa tteecchhnniiccaall mmaatttteerr,, nnoott aa ppoolliittiiccaall eevveenntt.. WWee aassssuummeedd tthhaatt hhee wwaass kkeepptt iinnffoorrmmeedd ooff wwhhaatt wwaass hhaappppeenniinngg bbyy hhiiss sseenniioorr ddeeffeennssee aanndd mmiilliittaarryy ooffffiicciiaallss.. BBuutt aappppaarreennttllyy tthhaatt wwaass nnoott tthhee ccaassee.. II ccaann oonnllyy ccoonncclluuddee tthhaatt hhiiss oowwnn mmiilliittaarryy cchhaaiinn ffaaiilleedd ttoo bbrriieeff hhiimm.. MMeeaannwwhhiillee,, ssoommeeoonnee iinn tthhee mmiilliittaarryy----II wwaass ttoolldd iitt wwaass tthhee ffoorrmmeerr aarrmmyy ccoommmmaannddeerr,, CCeessaarr LLooppeezz,, lleeaakkeedd iinnffoorrmmaattiioonn aabboouutt tthhee ttrraannssffeerr ttoo EEvvoo MMoorraalleess aanndd tthhee MMAASS.. TThheeyy wweerree qquuiicckk ttoo ppaaiinntt iitt aass aa ttrreeaassoonnaabbllee aacctt.. TThhee ffuunnddss wweerree aavvaaiillaabbllee ffoorr tthhee mmiilliittaarryy,, bbuutt nnoo oonnee wwaanntteedd ttoo ttoouucchh tthheemm----aanndd tthhee mmiilliittaarryy ooffffiicceerr wwhhoo ssuuggggeesstteedd tthhee aarrmmss ttrraannssffeerr ddiiddnn''tt wwaanntt ttoo sstteepp uupp ttoo tthhee ppllaattee.. TThhaatt lleefftt RRooddrriigguueezz aalloonnee.. RRooddrriigguueezz llaatteerr ccoommppllaaiinneedd ttoo mmee bbiitttteerrllyy tthhaatt hhee hhaadd bbeeeenn iinn tthhee ddaarrkk aabboouutt tthhee mmiissssiillee aarrrraannggeemmeennttss.. II rreessppoonnddeedd tthhaatt iitt wwaass nnoott oouurr rreessppoonnssiibbiilliittyy ttoo pprroovviiddee tthhee lliinnkkss iinn hhiiss oowwnn cchhaaiinn ooff ccoommmmaanndd.. TThhaatt wwaass ddiissiinnggeennuuoouuss ooff mmee.. II kknneeww hhiiss ssyysstteemm ddiiddnn''tt wwoorrkk.. IInn rreettrroossppeecctt II rreeggrreett tthhaatt II ddiiddnn''tt ppeerrssoonnaallllyy bbrriieeff hhiimm oonn tthhee ooppeerraattiioonnaall ddeettaaiillss tthhaatt hhiiss sseenniioorr ddeeffeennssee ssttaaffff wwaass ffuullllyy aawwaarree ooff.. AAfftteerr tthhee eelleeccttiioonnss,, wwhheenn MMoorraalleess bbeeccaammee pprreessiiddeenntt,, hhee wweenntt aafftteerr RRooddrriigguueezz,, aanndd hhee aallssoo wweenntt aafftteerr ffoorrmmeerr pprreessiiddeennttss MMeessaa,, SSaanncchheezz ddee LLoozzaaddaa,, QQuuiirrooggaa aanndd PPaazz ZZaammoorraa.. HHee ffiilleedd cchhaarrggeess aaggaaiinnsstt aallll ooff tthheemm ffoorr ddiiffffeerreenntt tthhiinnggss.. HHee ddiiddnn''tt wwaanntt aannyy ccoommppeettiittoorrss lleefftt ssttaannddiinngg.. BBuutt aallll hhee ccoouulldd ccoommee uupp wwiitthh oonn RRooddrriigguueezz wwaass tthhee mmiissssiilleess.. PPoolliittiiccss iiss aa ddiirrttyy bbuussiinneessss,, aanndd ddiipplloommaaccyy ccaann aallssoo bbrreeaakk aa lloott ooff ccrroocckkeerryy.. WWhheenn,, aass pprreessiiddeenntt,, MMoorraalleess aasskkeedd mmee wwhheetthheerr RRooddrriigguueezz hhaadd kknnoowwnn aabboouutt tthhee ttrraannssffeerr,, II ttoolldd hhiimm tthhaatt hhee ddiidd.. NNooww II tthhiinnkk hhee mmaayy hhaavvee kknnoowwnn iinn oonnllyy tthhee mmoosstt ggeenneerraall tteerrmmss.. OOrr ppeerrhhaappss hhee aassssuummeedd tthhee mmiissssiilleess wwoouulldd bbee ddeessttrrooyyeedd iinn BBoolliivviiaa.. AAsskkeedd bbyy tthhee pprreessss aabboouutt RRooddrriigguueezz''ss rroollee,, II ssaaiidd ppuubblliiccllyy tthhaatt hhee wwaass aammoonngg tthhee mmoosstt ddeecceenntt aanndd hhoonnoorraabbllee ppeeooppllee II hhaadd ddeeaalltt wwiitthh iinn oovveerr 3322 yyeeaarrss ooff ppuubblliicc sseerrvviiccee.. II mmeeaanntt tthhaatt.. TThhaatt wwaass aa oonnee--ddaayy nneewwss ssttoorryy.. II rreeggrreetttteedd tthhaatt II ccoouullddnn''tt ssaayy mmoorree.. When Morales was president, there was an initiative from his defense minister, Walker San Miguel, to resolve the tension by collecting the funds we had offered. I asked Morales if we could handle it that way, but before he could respond, his vice president, Alvaro Garcia Linera, shook his head negatively, and that was the end of it. But not for
  3. 3. Rodriguez. Morales made him the fall guy. That's the way Morales operates. His pursuit of Rodriguez--to destroy him politically--is the only thing about the missile transfer--which was in Bolivia's interest as well as ours--that I have lost sleep over. Apart from that one incident, which impacted on our relations with Bolivia, I recall the Rodriguez presidency as a gauntlet to elections. The presidential race was principally between Morales, former president Quiroga and a new contender, Samuel Doria Medina, who controlled the cement industry and had become a political factor. The supposition was that Morales had such high negatives that he might win a plurality, but that the other two, particularly Quiroga, would be important counter-weights. What we did not correctly assess was the extent to which the public wanted sweeping change and the degree to which Morales' negatives could turn to positives. If the public was worried about his history of blocking roads and confronting the government, there was a certain logic to their deciding to vote for him- -to make him responsible for governance rather than blocking governance. Morales ran a savvy campaign, reportedly with help from Luiz Ignacio Lula da Silva's party in Brazil. The MAS's media ads were good. The production values were first rate. And of course Morales ran against the U.S., just as Quiroga tried to run against Venezuela's Hugo Chavez, who was bankrolling Morales. The elections were on December 5. We expected a close outcome, but Morales won in an historic landslide. He won 54 percent of the votes. There was no need for a congressional runoff. It was a blow-out. We were surprised. The polling data, never good in Bolivia, didn't show a victory of this magnitude coming. Q: The election polls are closing. What were you thinking and what were you hearing? Were you consulting with Washington?
  4. 4. NOTA: PARA INGRESAR AL SITIO WEB FUENTE SIGA LOS SIGUIENTES PASOS 1.- INGRESE A ESTE ENLACE: http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/diplomacy/index.html 2.- EN LA COLUMNA DERECHA HAY UN BUSCADOR COPIE, PEGUE Y BUSQUE ESTE CONTENIDO: Interview with Ambassador David Greenlee 3.- LUEGO APARECERAN LAS COINCIDENCIAS DE BUSQUEDA ELIJA LA PRIMERA Y TIENE TODA LA FUENTE ENTERA DE ESTA ENTREVISTA.

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