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The Schützen Rifle Part 2: The U.S.Tradition Roger Hardy
Slide 1
• Explain Germanic Tongue ‘Schuetzen’ and U.S.A ‘Offhand’....
The Schützen Rifle Part 2: The U.S.Tradition Roger Hardy
Slide 5
• Types of rifles:
- U.S. offhand
- U.S. full Schuetzen
- G...
The Schützen Rifle Part 2: The U.S.Tradition Roger Hardy
Slide 6
• Calibres and cartridges:
- sizes, and when, where and ho...
The Schützen Rifle Part 2: The U.S.Tradition Roger Hardy
August 2000 HBSA August Lecture Page of4 6
All on this page from R...
The Schützen Rifle Part 2: The U.S.Tradition Roger Hardy
Slide 7
• Targets, see samples on display:
- less than one minute ...
The Schützen Rifle Part 2: The U.S.Tradition Roger Hardy
References
1. “They Made the Best Barrels”, by James Serven, Gun D...
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The Schützen Rifle Part 2: The U.S.Tradition

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This is a presentation delivered by Roger Hardy to a monthly meeting of the Historical Breechloading Smallarms Association (HBSA) of Great Britain in London, UK. Website: www.hbsa-uk.org

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The Schützen Rifle Part 2: The U.S.Tradition

  1. 1. The Schützen Rifle Part 2: The U.S.Tradition Roger Hardy Slide 1 • Explain Germanic Tongue ‘Schuetzen’ and U.S.A ‘Offhand’. Both terms in U.K. • ‘Offhand’, i.e. not held down by hand or sling. • This type of Shooting traced back to B.P.M/L and military foot soldiers. Slide 2 • Brief definition of the position, see fig 1. • This is not the sporting or moving target stance. • There is the: - tuck position - hip Position & - rest position. • Lean-back ’S’ position & the todger pull. • Advantages of close feet in relation to recoil. • Volunteer from the seats for practical demo. Slide 3 • Competition history: - 1864 Civil War - the sniping skills - the buffalo hunters - the Indian Wars - the sharpshooter brigades. • The migration to America: - the starting of the Schuetzenfest comps. • The first (3 country) international challenge. • Certainly the U.S. and Germany are Schuetzen comp. masters with over 130yrs experience. Slide 4 • Schuetzenfests, see fig 1a (p2): - all major towns/cities - the King - target - shooting order - course of fire - 2 or 3 days, 100 shots - distances 200 yards - finals on Eagle Target, see fig 2 (p2) - big money to be earned. The Rifles and Calibres • Percussion wt. 20lbs with .60 cal (15mm) • Gradually down (1860 —> 1910) to metallic cartridge/black or smokeless wt. 11lbs with . 32”(8mm). • Cleaning between shots has ‘stuck’ even today. August 2000 HBSA August Lecture Page of1 6 From Ref 1.
  2. 2. The Schützen Rifle Part 2: The U.S.Tradition Roger Hardy Slide 5 • Types of rifles: - U.S. offhand - U.S. full Schuetzen - Germ. Schuetzen (John Anderson) - Germ.& Europe zimmers-John Anderson. • Shape of see fig 3 • Action (system) types. • Stock shapes. • Buttplates - styles. • Barrel lengths, for balance. • Set triggers. • Palm rests. • Types of sights: • diopt’ aka creedmoor or tang • globes, pins • tubes • gimbel scopes (dates? U.S. official accpt > 1910). August 2000 HBSA August Lecture Page of2 6 Both Figs. 1A and 2 taken from Ref 3. From Ref 1.
  3. 3. The Schützen Rifle Part 2: The U.S.Tradition Roger Hardy Slide 6 • Calibres and cartridges: - sizes, and when, where and how. • Fixed ammo &/or separated loadings: - M/L continuance - reasons for, see fig.5 - accuracy of, see fig. 6 - bullet seaters, see figs. 4b, 4c (p4) - Mechanical seaters, see fig 4(p4) - bullet pushers. • Loading on range, - everlasting case: - wadding - powders, old and new - FMJ &/or lead. • World record, see fig. 7 (p4) - became part of precision U.S. Benchers Assoc. • The modern loading that survived. August 2000 HBSA August Lecture Page of3 6 From Ref 1. From Ref 2.
  4. 4. The Schützen Rifle Part 2: The U.S.Tradition Roger Hardy August 2000 HBSA August Lecture Page of4 6 All on this page from Ref 1.
  5. 5. The Schützen Rifle Part 2: The U.S.Tradition Roger Hardy Slide 7 • Targets, see samples on display: - less than one minute of angle bull. • Scoring Methods: - C to C - strings of shots - mostly ‘normal’ • Note: telescope type is red: separate comps. for telescopes Slide 8 • Taking up the Schuetzen challenge: - Mr. Pope said…. - finding your rifle - making your rifle (conv.) - rarity - suppliers of. • Alternatives at less expense in .22LR: - 12’s, 12/15s, Vicker’s Emp. Jubi. - how much? • Cost of running originals or conv. copies. • Sect 58(2) and all that. • The difficult ones. Slide 9 • Our small club - advert time. • Why so few shooters: - rifles are collectibles - not elegant and loveable like English R&R - expense - the passion for military - time taken for presentable scores. • I started in Jan. 1996. • First article in May. 1996 • Many ‘have a go’ at Imp. or TM etc. • Where now: - ASSRA - new collectors club? • That’s all folks, please see the impressive display AND please ask questions. August 2000 HBSA August Lecture Page of5 6
  6. 6. The Schützen Rifle Part 2: The U.S.Tradition Roger Hardy References 1. “They Made the Best Barrels”, by James Serven, Gun Digest 1974 2. Facsimile of Pope Catalogue, reprinted Gun Digest 1975 3. “Schuetzenfest, a German-American Tradition”, booklet published by the Museum of Our National Heritage, Lexington, Mass. Illustrations referenced in the talk but not appearing on the slides. August 2000 HBSA August Lecture Page of6 6 From Ref 2.

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