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Idle Chatter
What We All Can Learn from Self-Playing Games
Anthony Pecorella
Kongregate.com
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Who Am I?
• At Kongregate for 7 years,
directing our browser-based
F2P virtual goods business
• Producer for
AdVenture Capitalist mobile
• Also an indie designer,
cofounder of Level Up Labs
Kongregate.com
Kongregate Publishing
Why Are We Talking About This?
Why Are We Still Talking About This?
• It’s an adolescent genre
– Only 3 years old in its
modern form
– Beginning to mature
Cookie Clicker
Why Are We Still Talking About This?
• It has become
extremely popular!
Why Are We Still Talking About This?
• It has become
extremely popular!
Why Are We Still Talking About This?
• It has become
extremely popular!
Why Are We Still Talking About This?
• Steam created an MMO Idle for its 2015 Summer Sale
Why Are We Still Talking About This?
• Play patterns for idle games are very different
Why Are We Still Talking About This?
• Fabulous retention stats
– Some of the best-retaining games on all of Kongregate.com
Why Are We Still Talking About This?
Why Are We Still Talking About This?
• Generates great revenue
– ARPUs (average revenue per user) well-above most single-
player games on Kongregate.com
Why Are We Still Talking About This?
• Top-grossing single-player
games by ARPU
Why Are We Still Talking About This?
• Top-grossing single-player
games by ARPU
Why Are We Still Talking About This?
• It is the most exciting genre in games today
• The genre has a short gestation period (development
time) and lots of hosts
(developers)
• Result: Rapid evolution!
Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course
Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course
• Progress without interaction
– Low pressure experience
– Constant growth and progress
• There are no lose conditions!
– Quick check-ins can be very profitable by shifting up the
growth curve
• Great for social/mobile play patterns
Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course
• Progress without interaction
– Creates a celebratory moment
every time you return to the game
• The longer you don’t the play the
game, the bigger the reason to return!
– Forced appointment mechanics
become an unnecessary element
Tap Adventure
Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course
• Rapid growth of costs and power/rewards
– Humans love big numbers
AdVenture Capitalist
Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course
• Rapid growth of costs and power/rewards
– Core loop:
• Log in
• Spend all of your cash
• Log out, to return in a few hours
– Sound familiar?
Cityville
Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course
• Rapid growth of costs and power/rewards
– Creates a “natural” energy system without the need for an
energy currency
– More palatable to players (esp. “gamers”)
• Has real-world analog, makes sense
– “I’m out of cash, need to come back when I have more.”
• Player feels more ownership over this decision
– “I could wait, but my time is worth more than that.”
Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course
• “Prestiging” (New Game+)
– Choose to reset your game to get a
boost the next time through
– Start back over, but with much more
power than before
– Provides an interesting strategic
decision for the player
Tap Titans
Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course
• “Prestiging” (New Game+)
Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course
• “Prestiging” (New Game+)
Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course
• “Prestiging” (New Game+)
Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course
• “Prestiging” (New Game+)
Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course
• “Prestiging” (New Game+)
Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course
• Make It Bumpy
– Smooth curves are boring, lack surprise and delight
Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course
• Make It Bumpy
– Smooth curves are boring, lack surprise and delight
Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course
• Make It Bumpy
– Smooth curves are boring, lack surprise and delight
Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course
• Make It Bumpy
Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course
• Make It Bumpy
Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course
• Make It Bumpy
Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course
• Make It Bumpy
– Realm Grinder: The Infamous
Reincarnation 16
• Getting to R16 is arduous
• Some players spend money,
some wait it out
• Regardless, getting to R16 is an
accomplishment, reinforced by the
introduction of an entirely new
mechanic
Gaminic, Kongregate Forums
Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course
• Make It Bumpy
Jetpack Joyride Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course
• Prestige Currency
– Prestiging allows you to reign in growth
– Typically a slower, often linear-growth currency is
rewarded
• Effectively takes a log of the main currency
• Gives the developer an opportunity to more easily balance and
control progression
Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course
• Prestige Currency
– Idle Paws
Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course
• Canadian Puns
– AdVenture Capitalist
– Idle Paws
– Crusaders of the Lost Idols
– Idle Online Universe (IOU)
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Monetization
• Time warp
– Get a percentage of current rate
• Speed multipliers
– Permanent, stackable bonuses
• Prestige claim
– Gain prestige currency without
resetting
AdVenture Capitalist
Clicker Heroes
Monetization
• One-time purchases
Trimps
Realm Grinder
Monetization
• Gacha system (random pulls of upgrades)
Crusaders of the Lost Idols
Monetization
• Banner/Interstitial ads
• Opt-in ads
– Quick burst of cash
– Small bit of premium currency
– Temporary boost
– Increase a reward
Monetization
• Opt-in ad models
– Game-initiated: the game offers
the option to watch the ad, must
be accepted or declined on the
spot
Bitcoin Billionaire
Monetization
• Opt-in ad models
– Player initiated: player
can choose to watch an
ad on-demand
AdVenture Capitalist
Monetization
• Opt-in ad models
Realm Grinder
Monetization
• Opt-in ad models
– Realm Grinder web data
Monetization
• Opt-in ad models
– Realm Grinder web data
Monetization
• This is not in lieu of spending
– Paying players will gladly engage too
– A bit of hard currency won’t appeal to spenders, but a
multiplier or time warp could
• Have value to both free and paying players
Monetization
• AdVenture Capitalist
mobile revenue split
Monetization
• Events
AdVenture Capitalist
Monetization
• Events
Crusaders of the Lost Idols
Idle Game 2015 Innovations
• So, what’s new in the last year?
Idle Game 2015 Innovations
• Prestige Variation
– Change the game rules when prestiging
– Keeps the game fresher more engaging, rather than the
same thing just faster
Idle Game 2.0 Innovations
• Prestige Variation
Realm Grinder
Idle Game 2.0 Innovations
• Meta Prestiging
Idle Game 2.0 Innovations
• Meta Prestiging
Realm Grinder
Idle Game 2.0 Innovations
• Meta Prestiging
Idle Game 2.0 Innovations
• Meta Prestiging
Idle Game 2.0 Innovations
• Meta Prestiging
– So far more pre-planned progression rather than choice
– Helps give clear aspirational goals
– Makes for good break points for new features
Idle Game 2.0 Innovations
• Meta Meta Prestiging
Idle Game 2.0 Innovations
• Meta Meta Prestiging
– Realm Grinder
• Abdicate
• Reincarnate
• Ascend
Idle Game 2.0 Innovations
• Selective Subset Synergies
Idle Game 2.0 Innovations
• Strategic Selective Subset Synergies (SSSsSs)
Idle Game 2.0 Innovations
• Strategic Selective Subset Synergies
– Players choose a subset of heroes/properties to have
active at a time
Idle Game 2.0 Innovations
• Strategic Selective Subset Synergies
Tap Cats: Idle Warfare
Idle Game 2.0 Innovations
• Strategic Selective Subset Synergies
Realm Grinder
Idle Game 2.0 Innovations
• What happens if we add another dimension?
Idle Game 2.0 Innovations
• 2D Spatial Interactions
– Extra layers of strategy involved thanks to spatial relations
– Adds complexity to the game
Idle Game 2.0 Innovations
• 2D Spatial Interactions
Crusaders of the Lost Idols
Idle Game 2.0 Innovations
• 2D Spatial Interactions
Reactor Idle
Idle Game 2.0 Innovations
• 2D Spatial Interactions
Idle Game 2.0 Innovations
• Specialized Build Goals
– Give players targets to aim for beyond just making bigger
numbers
– Requires strategy to adjust resources to best optimize
towards that goal
Idle Game 2.0 Innovations
• Specialized Build Goals
Crusaders of the Lost Idols
Idle Game 2.0 Innovations
• Specialized Build Goals
Trimps
Idle Game 2.0 Innovations
• Creative and
Experimental
– True
Exponential
Idle Game 2.0 Innovations
• Creative and
Experimental
– Idle Quotes
On Auto-clickers
• Auto-clickers are considered necessary by any
“serious” idle game player.
– I substantially enjoyed idle games more when I broke
down and installed an auto-clicker
On Auto-clickers
• This is not cheating, this is an error in design.
– Think of Facebook games moving from clicking on
doobers to mousing-over them
– This is a needed quality of life improvement
On Auto-clickers
• Rapid clicking is fine occasionally but exhausting
and painful as the primary interaction
Clicker Heroes
On Auto-clickers
• Simplify repetitive and uninteresting tasks
– Tap and hold rather than repeated tapping
Farm Away!
On Auto-clickers
• Simplify repetitive and uninteresting tasks
– Allow saved “builds” or checkpoints for complex setups
– Don’t have the optimal strategy require clicking
constantly
Online vs. Offline
• Major design challenge, especially on mobile
• “What do you want the player experience to be
like?”
Online vs. Offline
• Why punish offline play?
– Timer limits, percentage limits, etc.
• These do pressure players to come back, but well-designed
games without them have great retention anyway
• Players don’t have to have your game open to be actively
playing it
Online vs. Offline
• Alternatives?
– Calculate offline the same as online
– Give players choices so they can decide if
they want to do online or offline play at
the moment
– Use the math of exponential growth as a
soft offline limit
Online vs. Offline
• Rapid growth of costs and power/rewards
Online vs. Offline
• Rapid growth of costs and power/rewards
Online vs. Offline
• Rapid growth of costs and power/rewards
Online vs. Offline
• Rapid growth of costs and power/rewards
Online vs. Offline
• Rapid growth of costs and power/rewards
Online vs. Offline
• Rapid growth of costs and power/rewards
Online vs. Offline
• Rapid growth of costs and power/rewards
Online vs. Offline
• Rapid growth of costs and power/rewards
Online vs. Offline
• Rapid growth of costs and power/rewards
Plot?
• Plot and characters a largely unused
• Given the long-term relationship from players, this
seems like a missed opportunity for storytelling
Spin-offs and Existing IP
• Spin-offs: Great way to kick-start with existing assets
Time Rifters Time Clickers
Spin-offs and Existing IP
• Spin-offs: Great way to kick-start with existing assets
Brave Tales
Tap Adventure
Spin-offs and Existing IP
• Spin-offs: Great way to kick-start with existing assets
Bush Whacker 2 Crusaders of the Lost Idols
Spin-offs and Existing IP
• Spin-offs: Great way to kick-start with existing assets
Cloudstone Clicker Heroes
Spin-offs and Existing IP
• Existing IP
Learn to Fly Idle
Spin-offs and Existing IP
• Existing IP
Spin-offs and Existing IP
• Existing IP
Tap My Katamari
Non-Idle Applications
• Examples and ideas for idle elements in non-idle
games
Non-Idle Applications
• Idle elements to welcome back
Metal Gear Solid V
Non-Idle Applications
• Put an idle game in your game!
– The Executive. Brawler with an idle game for stats.
Non-Idle Applications
• Launch games
– Tight-loop prestige
systems
– Usually no choice over
“prestige point”
Learn to Fly 3
Non-Idle Applications
• Launch games
– Allow players to
select their reset
point
Destination Kepler
Non-Idle Applications
• Launch games
– Consider varying launch goals/parameters to keep
launches feeling fresh
• Challenge player to specific activities per launch
• Random rule changes on a launch, with a bonus for success
Non-Idle Applications
• RPG
– Prestiging came from RPGs (New Game+)
Non-Idle Applications
• Shooter
– Time Rifters uses this for
single-player co-op
Non-Idle Applications
• High Score Action Games
Meta Clicker
Non-Idle Applications
• CCG
– Build prestige into the core
gameplay
• Solforge evoked this with
cards leveling up mid-game
Non-Idle Applications
• PvP
– When to prestige is an interesting tactical question, can
you make it competitive?
Idle Genre Blends
• Idle Puzzle
– Puzzle Fuzz Idle Stories
Idle Genre Blends
• Idle MMORPG
Idle Online Universe
Idle Genre Blends
• Idle Rhythm
– Groove Planet by Animoca Brands
Idle Genre Blends
• Idle Dating
– Crush Crush
Thank You!
• Check out developers.kongregate.com
• Browser games: apps@kongregate.com
• Mobile games: bd@kongregate.com
• Me: anthony@kongregate.com

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Idle Chatter - GDC 2016

  • 1. Idle Chatter What We All Can Learn from Self-Playing Games Anthony Pecorella Kongregate.com
  • 2. Slides! • You can download these slides right now from developers.kongregate.com/blog
  • 3. Who Am I? • At Kongregate for 7 years, directing our browser-based F2P virtual goods business • Producer for AdVenture Capitalist mobile • Also an indie designer, cofounder of Level Up Labs
  • 6. Why Are We Talking About This?
  • 7. Why Are We Still Talking About This? • It’s an adolescent genre – Only 3 years old in its modern form – Beginning to mature Cookie Clicker
  • 8. Why Are We Still Talking About This? • It has become extremely popular!
  • 9. Why Are We Still Talking About This? • It has become extremely popular!
  • 10. Why Are We Still Talking About This? • It has become extremely popular!
  • 11. Why Are We Still Talking About This? • Steam created an MMO Idle for its 2015 Summer Sale
  • 12. Why Are We Still Talking About This? • Play patterns for idle games are very different
  • 13. Why Are We Still Talking About This? • Fabulous retention stats – Some of the best-retaining games on all of Kongregate.com
  • 14. Why Are We Still Talking About This?
  • 15. Why Are We Still Talking About This? • Generates great revenue – ARPUs (average revenue per user) well-above most single- player games on Kongregate.com
  • 16. Why Are We Still Talking About This? • Top-grossing single-player games by ARPU
  • 17. Why Are We Still Talking About This? • Top-grossing single-player games by ARPU
  • 18. Why Are We Still Talking About This? • It is the most exciting genre in games today • The genre has a short gestation period (development time) and lots of hosts (developers) • Result: Rapid evolution!
  • 19. Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course
  • 20. Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course • Progress without interaction – Low pressure experience – Constant growth and progress • There are no lose conditions! – Quick check-ins can be very profitable by shifting up the growth curve • Great for social/mobile play patterns
  • 21. Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course • Progress without interaction – Creates a celebratory moment every time you return to the game • The longer you don’t the play the game, the bigger the reason to return! – Forced appointment mechanics become an unnecessary element Tap Adventure
  • 22. Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course • Rapid growth of costs and power/rewards – Humans love big numbers AdVenture Capitalist
  • 23. Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course • Rapid growth of costs and power/rewards – Core loop: • Log in • Spend all of your cash • Log out, to return in a few hours – Sound familiar? Cityville
  • 24. Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course • Rapid growth of costs and power/rewards – Creates a “natural” energy system without the need for an energy currency – More palatable to players (esp. “gamers”) • Has real-world analog, makes sense – “I’m out of cash, need to come back when I have more.” • Player feels more ownership over this decision – “I could wait, but my time is worth more than that.”
  • 25. Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course • “Prestiging” (New Game+) – Choose to reset your game to get a boost the next time through – Start back over, but with much more power than before – Provides an interesting strategic decision for the player Tap Titans
  • 26. Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course • “Prestiging” (New Game+)
  • 27. Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course • “Prestiging” (New Game+)
  • 28. Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course • “Prestiging” (New Game+)
  • 29. Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course • “Prestiging” (New Game+)
  • 30. Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course • “Prestiging” (New Game+)
  • 31. Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course • Make It Bumpy – Smooth curves are boring, lack surprise and delight
  • 32. Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course • Make It Bumpy – Smooth curves are boring, lack surprise and delight
  • 33. Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course • Make It Bumpy – Smooth curves are boring, lack surprise and delight
  • 34. Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course • Make It Bumpy
  • 35. Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course • Make It Bumpy
  • 36. Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course • Make It Bumpy
  • 37. Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course • Make It Bumpy – Realm Grinder: The Infamous Reincarnation 16 • Getting to R16 is arduous • Some players spend money, some wait it out • Regardless, getting to R16 is an accomplishment, reinforced by the introduction of an entirely new mechanic Gaminic, Kongregate Forums
  • 38. Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course • Make It Bumpy Jetpack Joyride Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
  • 39. Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course • Prestige Currency – Prestiging allows you to reign in growth – Typically a slower, often linear-growth currency is rewarded • Effectively takes a log of the main currency • Gives the developer an opportunity to more easily balance and control progression
  • 40. Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course • Prestige Currency – Idle Paws
  • 41. Idle Game Mechanics Crash Course • Canadian Puns – AdVenture Capitalist – Idle Paws – Crusaders of the Lost Idols – Idle Online Universe (IOU)
  • 42.
  • 43. Welcome back Anthony! You presented 21 slides while you were gone!
  • 44. Would you like to watch an ad to double your slides?
  • 45.
  • 46. Thanks for watching! You presented 21 42 slides while you were gone!
  • 47. Monetization • Time warp – Get a percentage of current rate • Speed multipliers – Permanent, stackable bonuses • Prestige claim – Gain prestige currency without resetting AdVenture Capitalist Clicker Heroes
  • 49. Monetization • Gacha system (random pulls of upgrades) Crusaders of the Lost Idols
  • 50.
  • 51. Monetization • Banner/Interstitial ads • Opt-in ads – Quick burst of cash – Small bit of premium currency – Temporary boost – Increase a reward
  • 52. Monetization • Opt-in ad models – Game-initiated: the game offers the option to watch the ad, must be accepted or declined on the spot Bitcoin Billionaire
  • 53. Monetization • Opt-in ad models – Player initiated: player can choose to watch an ad on-demand AdVenture Capitalist
  • 54. Monetization • Opt-in ad models Realm Grinder
  • 55. Monetization • Opt-in ad models – Realm Grinder web data
  • 56. Monetization • Opt-in ad models – Realm Grinder web data
  • 57. Monetization • This is not in lieu of spending – Paying players will gladly engage too – A bit of hard currency won’t appeal to spenders, but a multiplier or time warp could • Have value to both free and paying players
  • 61. Idle Game 2015 Innovations • So, what’s new in the last year?
  • 62. Idle Game 2015 Innovations • Prestige Variation – Change the game rules when prestiging – Keeps the game fresher more engaging, rather than the same thing just faster
  • 63. Idle Game 2.0 Innovations • Prestige Variation Realm Grinder
  • 64. Idle Game 2.0 Innovations • Meta Prestiging
  • 65. Idle Game 2.0 Innovations • Meta Prestiging Realm Grinder
  • 66. Idle Game 2.0 Innovations • Meta Prestiging
  • 67. Idle Game 2.0 Innovations • Meta Prestiging
  • 68. Idle Game 2.0 Innovations • Meta Prestiging – So far more pre-planned progression rather than choice – Helps give clear aspirational goals – Makes for good break points for new features
  • 69. Idle Game 2.0 Innovations • Meta Meta Prestiging
  • 70. Idle Game 2.0 Innovations • Meta Meta Prestiging – Realm Grinder • Abdicate • Reincarnate • Ascend
  • 71. Idle Game 2.0 Innovations • Selective Subset Synergies
  • 72. Idle Game 2.0 Innovations • Strategic Selective Subset Synergies (SSSsSs)
  • 73. Idle Game 2.0 Innovations • Strategic Selective Subset Synergies – Players choose a subset of heroes/properties to have active at a time
  • 74. Idle Game 2.0 Innovations • Strategic Selective Subset Synergies Tap Cats: Idle Warfare
  • 75. Idle Game 2.0 Innovations • Strategic Selective Subset Synergies Realm Grinder
  • 76. Idle Game 2.0 Innovations • What happens if we add another dimension?
  • 77. Idle Game 2.0 Innovations • 2D Spatial Interactions – Extra layers of strategy involved thanks to spatial relations – Adds complexity to the game
  • 78. Idle Game 2.0 Innovations • 2D Spatial Interactions Crusaders of the Lost Idols
  • 79. Idle Game 2.0 Innovations • 2D Spatial Interactions Reactor Idle
  • 80. Idle Game 2.0 Innovations • 2D Spatial Interactions
  • 81. Idle Game 2.0 Innovations • Specialized Build Goals – Give players targets to aim for beyond just making bigger numbers – Requires strategy to adjust resources to best optimize towards that goal
  • 82. Idle Game 2.0 Innovations • Specialized Build Goals Crusaders of the Lost Idols
  • 83. Idle Game 2.0 Innovations • Specialized Build Goals Trimps
  • 84. Idle Game 2.0 Innovations • Creative and Experimental – True Exponential
  • 85. Idle Game 2.0 Innovations • Creative and Experimental – Idle Quotes
  • 86. On Auto-clickers • Auto-clickers are considered necessary by any “serious” idle game player. – I substantially enjoyed idle games more when I broke down and installed an auto-clicker
  • 87. On Auto-clickers • This is not cheating, this is an error in design. – Think of Facebook games moving from clicking on doobers to mousing-over them – This is a needed quality of life improvement
  • 88. On Auto-clickers • Rapid clicking is fine occasionally but exhausting and painful as the primary interaction Clicker Heroes
  • 89. On Auto-clickers • Simplify repetitive and uninteresting tasks – Tap and hold rather than repeated tapping Farm Away!
  • 90. On Auto-clickers • Simplify repetitive and uninteresting tasks – Allow saved “builds” or checkpoints for complex setups – Don’t have the optimal strategy require clicking constantly
  • 91. Online vs. Offline • Major design challenge, especially on mobile • “What do you want the player experience to be like?”
  • 92. Online vs. Offline • Why punish offline play? – Timer limits, percentage limits, etc. • These do pressure players to come back, but well-designed games without them have great retention anyway • Players don’t have to have your game open to be actively playing it
  • 93. Online vs. Offline • Alternatives? – Calculate offline the same as online – Give players choices so they can decide if they want to do online or offline play at the moment – Use the math of exponential growth as a soft offline limit
  • 94. Online vs. Offline • Rapid growth of costs and power/rewards
  • 95. Online vs. Offline • Rapid growth of costs and power/rewards
  • 96. Online vs. Offline • Rapid growth of costs and power/rewards
  • 97. Online vs. Offline • Rapid growth of costs and power/rewards
  • 98. Online vs. Offline • Rapid growth of costs and power/rewards
  • 99. Online vs. Offline • Rapid growth of costs and power/rewards
  • 100. Online vs. Offline • Rapid growth of costs and power/rewards
  • 101. Online vs. Offline • Rapid growth of costs and power/rewards
  • 102. Online vs. Offline • Rapid growth of costs and power/rewards
  • 103. Plot? • Plot and characters a largely unused • Given the long-term relationship from players, this seems like a missed opportunity for storytelling
  • 104. Spin-offs and Existing IP • Spin-offs: Great way to kick-start with existing assets Time Rifters Time Clickers
  • 105. Spin-offs and Existing IP • Spin-offs: Great way to kick-start with existing assets Brave Tales Tap Adventure
  • 106. Spin-offs and Existing IP • Spin-offs: Great way to kick-start with existing assets Bush Whacker 2 Crusaders of the Lost Idols
  • 107. Spin-offs and Existing IP • Spin-offs: Great way to kick-start with existing assets Cloudstone Clicker Heroes
  • 108. Spin-offs and Existing IP • Existing IP Learn to Fly Idle
  • 109. Spin-offs and Existing IP • Existing IP
  • 110. Spin-offs and Existing IP • Existing IP Tap My Katamari
  • 111. Non-Idle Applications • Examples and ideas for idle elements in non-idle games
  • 112. Non-Idle Applications • Idle elements to welcome back Metal Gear Solid V
  • 113. Non-Idle Applications • Put an idle game in your game! – The Executive. Brawler with an idle game for stats.
  • 114. Non-Idle Applications • Launch games – Tight-loop prestige systems – Usually no choice over “prestige point” Learn to Fly 3
  • 115. Non-Idle Applications • Launch games – Allow players to select their reset point Destination Kepler
  • 116. Non-Idle Applications • Launch games – Consider varying launch goals/parameters to keep launches feeling fresh • Challenge player to specific activities per launch • Random rule changes on a launch, with a bonus for success
  • 117. Non-Idle Applications • RPG – Prestiging came from RPGs (New Game+)
  • 118. Non-Idle Applications • Shooter – Time Rifters uses this for single-player co-op
  • 119. Non-Idle Applications • High Score Action Games Meta Clicker
  • 120. Non-Idle Applications • CCG – Build prestige into the core gameplay • Solforge evoked this with cards leveling up mid-game
  • 121. Non-Idle Applications • PvP – When to prestige is an interesting tactical question, can you make it competitive?
  • 122. Idle Genre Blends • Idle Puzzle – Puzzle Fuzz Idle Stories
  • 123. Idle Genre Blends • Idle MMORPG Idle Online Universe
  • 124. Idle Genre Blends • Idle Rhythm – Groove Planet by Animoca Brands
  • 125. Idle Genre Blends • Idle Dating – Crush Crush
  • 126.
  • 127. Thank You! • Check out developers.kongregate.com • Browser games: apps@kongregate.com • Mobile games: bd@kongregate.com • Me: anthony@kongregate.com