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between Distros (devs)between Distros (devs)
and their Users (ops)and their Users (ops)
Kris Buytaert
@krisbuytaert
Kris BuytaertKris Buytaert
● 20+ years of Linux System Administration20+ years of Linux System Administration
● Release manager of upstream open sourceRelease manager of upstream open source
software (back in 2001)software (back in 2001)
● Assisting organisations in deploying software ,Assisting organisations in deploying software ,
better, faster, stronger,better, faster, stronger,
● Slackware, SLS, RedHat, Debian, Suse, Fedora,Slackware, SLS, RedHat, Debian, Suse, Fedora,
RHEL, CentOS, SLES, UbuntuRHEL, CentOS, SLES, Ubuntu
● Busy building stufBusy building stuf
devops =~C(L)AMSdevops =~C(L)AMS
● CultureCulture
● (Lean)(Lean)
● AutomationAutomation
•
Build, Deploy, Package,ConfigureBuild, Deploy, Package,Configure
● MeasurementMeasurement
● SharingSharing
Damon Edwards and John WillisDamon Edwards and John Willis
Culture,Culture,
automation,automation,
Measturement,Measturement,
sharingsharing
How I illustrate dev-oopsHow I illustrate dev-oops
● ““Put this Code Live, here's a tarball” NOW!Put this Code Live, here's a tarball” NOW!
● What dependencies ?What dependencies ?
● No machines available ?No machines available ?
● What database ?What database ?
● Security ?Security ?
● High Availability ?High Availability ?
● Scalability ?Scalability ?
● My computer can't install this ?My computer can't install this ?
How I illustrate distro-How I illustrate distro-
oopsoops
● We've introduced “XYZ” in the releaseWe've introduced “XYZ” in the release
● What where ..What where ..
•
Shit just broke ..Shit just broke ..
•
All tests gone redAll tests gone red
•
That's a major refactorThat's a major refactor
•
6 renamed packages and diferent defaults6 renamed packages and diferent defaults
•
Where's the disable buttonWhere's the disable button
Root CauseRoot Cause
● Ops are to busy fixing …Ops are to busy fixing …
● Someone else will react to this .. this is “trivial”Someone else will react to this .. this is “trivial”
● They can't be this …They can't be this …
● No trivial feedback loopNo trivial feedback loop
● Ops Ops folks are not involved in the communitiesOps Ops folks are not involved in the communities
● Is your community, your userbase ?Is your community, your userbase ?
Your Team
Your community :
Power users, evangelists
contributors
Upstream
Users Users active in other Open Source Communities
Your Customers ?
Your Team
Your active vocal users
aka community
Upstream
Users Users active in other Open Source Communities
D
iferent
U
se
Cases,
D
iferent
N
eeds
Culture,Culture,
Automation,Automation,
Measurement,Measurement,
SharingSharing
Launch all deamonsLaunch all deamons
● Because in a clustered setup I want theBecause in a clustered setup I want the
daemon running only on the node my CRM tellsdaemon running only on the node my CRM tells
it to.it to.
● Because I first want to reconfigure that serviceBecause I first want to reconfigure that service
etc before you launch itetc before you launch it
● Or I`m building a containerOr I`m building a container
● Mostly aimed at single server setups :(Mostly aimed at single server setups :(
IdeaIdea
● apt-get install vs apt-get runapt-get install vs apt-get run
● yum install vs yum runyum install vs yum run
#packagingsucks#packagingsucks
• Really ..Really ..
●
Missing upstreamMissing upstream
●
Ancient upstreamAncient upstream
●
Unneeded dependenciesUnneeded dependencies
●
Broken upstreamBroken upstream
●
Distro PoliciesDistro Policies
● Packaging is neededPackaging is needed
●
Dependencies, tooling, repositoriesDependencies, tooling, repositories
Languages and PackagingLanguages and Packaging
CPAN,RubyGems,PIP,...CPAN,RubyGems,PIP,...
Every single language tries to package theirEvery single language tries to package their
libraries,libraries,
Ops people hate those packagesOps people hate those packages
And repackage themAnd repackage them
fpm -s gem -t rpm fpmfpm -s gem -t rpm fpm
Devs vs opsDevs vs ops
● Getting the latestGetting the latest
versions working onversions working on
their dev setuptheir dev setup
● Get that from theGet that from the
internet fastinternet fast
● curl http://shaky.li.nk |curl http://shaky.li.nk |
sudo /bin/bashsudo /bin/bash
● Works on my machineWorks on my machine
● A reproducableA reproducable
● ShippableShippable
● ArtifactArtifact
● MaintainabilityMaintainability
What ops do ..What ops do ..
● Deploy ruby in jrubyDeploy ruby in jruby
● Software Collections (newer versions)Software Collections (newer versions)
●
What ops do ..What ops do ..
● Build a full stack in a chrootBuild a full stack in a chroot
•
Virtualenv, rbenv, rvmVirtualenv, rbenv, rvm
•
Build in containersBuild in containers
Distros and PackagingDistros and Packaging
Some DistrosSome Distros
● Package unexisting releasesPackage unexisting releases
● Change version numbersChange version numbers
● Make developers hate those distrosMake developers hate those distros
● The distro that once shipped an 2.6 KernelThe distro that once shipped an 2.6 Kernel
version of openMosix knows I`m talking aboutversion of openMosix knows I`m talking about
them.them.
Contributing to Distros ?Contributing to Distros ?
Distribution packaging policies are not designedDistribution packaging policies are not designed
for people who package softwarefor people who package software
John Vincent, on his blog in 2013John Vincent, on his blog in 2013
Should this even be in a distro ?Should this even be in a distro ?
● ““What do you mean there is php code in /etc ?”What do you mean there is php code in /etc ?”
● /etc/drupal ?/etc/drupal ?
● Are you kidding me ?Are you kidding me ?
● Just kill that package, don't ever use it againJust kill that package, don't ever use it again
and let our jenkins roll our own.and let our jenkins roll our own.
Hey Distro:Hey Distro:
● There is no way you can keep up with theThere is no way you can keep up with the
speed of some webapps releasing newspeed of some webapps releasing new
versions.versions.
● Maybe you shouldn't even tryMaybe you shouldn't even try
Culture,Culture,
Automation,Automation,
Measurement,Measurement,
SharingSharing
Distro's do great workDistro's do great work
•
OBSOBS
•
CBSCBS
● Not all of it is knownNot all of it is known
CI for UpstreamCI for Upstream
● Engage with upstreamEngage with upstream
● Provide tools for them to build packages easyProvide tools for them to build packages easy
Who is your user ?Who is your user ?
● Junior Software developer who needsJunior Software developer who needs
•
Database, webserver etcDatabase, webserver etc
•
Running triviallyRunning trivially
● Ops guy who needs to deploy , manage andOps guy who needs to deploy , manage and
monitor large inframonitor large infra
Get your power users involvedGet your power users involved
● More MeetupsMore Meetups
● Lugs are dissapearingLugs are dissapearing
● User Advisory boardUser Advisory board
● Engage them, before they complain, or switchEngage them, before they complain, or switch
to another distroto another distro
ContactContact
Kris Buytaert kris.buytaert@inuits.euKris Buytaert kris.buytaert@inuits.eu
Further ReadingFurther Reading
@krisbuytaert@krisbuytaert
http://www.krisbuytaert.be/blog/http://www.krisbuytaert.be/blog/
http://www.inuits.eu/http://www.inuits.eu/
Find Inuits inFind Inuits in
Brasschaat,Ghent,Brasschaat,Ghent,
Rotterdam,Prague,Rotterdam,Prague,
Kiev,BrnoKiev,Brno

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Closing the gap between Distros(devs) and their Users(ops)

  • 1. Closing the gapClosing the gap between Distros (devs)between Distros (devs) and their Users (ops)and their Users (ops) Kris Buytaert @krisbuytaert
  • 2. Kris BuytaertKris Buytaert ● 20+ years of Linux System Administration20+ years of Linux System Administration ● Release manager of upstream open sourceRelease manager of upstream open source software (back in 2001)software (back in 2001) ● Assisting organisations in deploying software ,Assisting organisations in deploying software , better, faster, stronger,better, faster, stronger, ● Slackware, SLS, RedHat, Debian, Suse, Fedora,Slackware, SLS, RedHat, Debian, Suse, Fedora, RHEL, CentOS, SLES, UbuntuRHEL, CentOS, SLES, Ubuntu ● Busy building stufBusy building stuf
  • 3. devops =~C(L)AMSdevops =~C(L)AMS ● CultureCulture ● (Lean)(Lean) ● AutomationAutomation • Build, Deploy, Package,ConfigureBuild, Deploy, Package,Configure ● MeasurementMeasurement ● SharingSharing Damon Edwards and John WillisDamon Edwards and John Willis
  • 5. How I illustrate dev-oopsHow I illustrate dev-oops ● ““Put this Code Live, here's a tarball” NOW!Put this Code Live, here's a tarball” NOW! ● What dependencies ?What dependencies ? ● No machines available ?No machines available ? ● What database ?What database ? ● Security ?Security ? ● High Availability ?High Availability ? ● Scalability ?Scalability ? ● My computer can't install this ?My computer can't install this ?
  • 6. How I illustrate distro-How I illustrate distro- oopsoops ● We've introduced “XYZ” in the releaseWe've introduced “XYZ” in the release ● What where ..What where .. • Shit just broke ..Shit just broke .. • All tests gone redAll tests gone red • That's a major refactorThat's a major refactor • 6 renamed packages and diferent defaults6 renamed packages and diferent defaults • Where's the disable buttonWhere's the disable button
  • 7. Root CauseRoot Cause ● Ops are to busy fixing …Ops are to busy fixing … ● Someone else will react to this .. this is “trivial”Someone else will react to this .. this is “trivial” ● They can't be this …They can't be this … ● No trivial feedback loopNo trivial feedback loop ● Ops Ops folks are not involved in the communitiesOps Ops folks are not involved in the communities ● Is your community, your userbase ?Is your community, your userbase ?
  • 8. Your Team Your community : Power users, evangelists contributors Upstream Users Users active in other Open Source Communities Your Customers ?
  • 9. Your Team Your active vocal users aka community Upstream Users Users active in other Open Source Communities D iferent U se Cases, D iferent N eeds
  • 11. Launch all deamonsLaunch all deamons ● Because in a clustered setup I want theBecause in a clustered setup I want the daemon running only on the node my CRM tellsdaemon running only on the node my CRM tells it to.it to. ● Because I first want to reconfigure that serviceBecause I first want to reconfigure that service etc before you launch itetc before you launch it ● Or I`m building a containerOr I`m building a container ● Mostly aimed at single server setups :(Mostly aimed at single server setups :(
  • 12. IdeaIdea ● apt-get install vs apt-get runapt-get install vs apt-get run ● yum install vs yum runyum install vs yum run
  • 13. #packagingsucks#packagingsucks • Really ..Really .. ● Missing upstreamMissing upstream ● Ancient upstreamAncient upstream ● Unneeded dependenciesUnneeded dependencies ● Broken upstreamBroken upstream ● Distro PoliciesDistro Policies ● Packaging is neededPackaging is needed ● Dependencies, tooling, repositoriesDependencies, tooling, repositories
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  • 18. CPAN,RubyGems,PIP,...CPAN,RubyGems,PIP,... Every single language tries to package theirEvery single language tries to package their libraries,libraries, Ops people hate those packagesOps people hate those packages And repackage themAnd repackage them fpm -s gem -t rpm fpmfpm -s gem -t rpm fpm
  • 19. Devs vs opsDevs vs ops ● Getting the latestGetting the latest versions working onversions working on their dev setuptheir dev setup ● Get that from theGet that from the internet fastinternet fast ● curl http://shaky.li.nk |curl http://shaky.li.nk | sudo /bin/bashsudo /bin/bash ● Works on my machineWorks on my machine ● A reproducableA reproducable ● ShippableShippable ● ArtifactArtifact ● MaintainabilityMaintainability
  • 20. What ops do ..What ops do .. ● Deploy ruby in jrubyDeploy ruby in jruby ● Software Collections (newer versions)Software Collections (newer versions) ●
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  • 22. What ops do ..What ops do .. ● Build a full stack in a chrootBuild a full stack in a chroot • Virtualenv, rbenv, rvmVirtualenv, rbenv, rvm • Build in containersBuild in containers
  • 24. Some DistrosSome Distros ● Package unexisting releasesPackage unexisting releases ● Change version numbersChange version numbers ● Make developers hate those distrosMake developers hate those distros ● The distro that once shipped an 2.6 KernelThe distro that once shipped an 2.6 Kernel version of openMosix knows I`m talking aboutversion of openMosix knows I`m talking about them.them.
  • 25. Contributing to Distros ?Contributing to Distros ? Distribution packaging policies are not designedDistribution packaging policies are not designed for people who package softwarefor people who package software John Vincent, on his blog in 2013John Vincent, on his blog in 2013
  • 26. Should this even be in a distro ?Should this even be in a distro ? ● ““What do you mean there is php code in /etc ?”What do you mean there is php code in /etc ?” ● /etc/drupal ?/etc/drupal ? ● Are you kidding me ?Are you kidding me ? ● Just kill that package, don't ever use it againJust kill that package, don't ever use it again and let our jenkins roll our own.and let our jenkins roll our own.
  • 27. Hey Distro:Hey Distro: ● There is no way you can keep up with theThere is no way you can keep up with the speed of some webapps releasing newspeed of some webapps releasing new versions.versions. ● Maybe you shouldn't even tryMaybe you shouldn't even try
  • 29. Distro's do great workDistro's do great work • OBSOBS • CBSCBS ● Not all of it is knownNot all of it is known
  • 30. CI for UpstreamCI for Upstream ● Engage with upstreamEngage with upstream ● Provide tools for them to build packages easyProvide tools for them to build packages easy
  • 31. Who is your user ?Who is your user ? ● Junior Software developer who needsJunior Software developer who needs • Database, webserver etcDatabase, webserver etc • Running triviallyRunning trivially ● Ops guy who needs to deploy , manage andOps guy who needs to deploy , manage and monitor large inframonitor large infra
  • 32. Get your power users involvedGet your power users involved ● More MeetupsMore Meetups ● Lugs are dissapearingLugs are dissapearing ● User Advisory boardUser Advisory board ● Engage them, before they complain, or switchEngage them, before they complain, or switch to another distroto another distro
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  • 34. ContactContact Kris Buytaert kris.buytaert@inuits.euKris Buytaert kris.buytaert@inuits.eu Further ReadingFurther Reading @krisbuytaert@krisbuytaert http://www.krisbuytaert.be/blog/http://www.krisbuytaert.be/blog/ http://www.inuits.eu/http://www.inuits.eu/ Find Inuits inFind Inuits in Brasschaat,Ghent,Brasschaat,Ghent, Rotterdam,Prague,Rotterdam,Prague, Kiev,BrnoKiev,Brno