Coproduction is a wonderful concept - but it is emptied of meaning if it does not go hand in hand with a real shift of power and control.

1. Co-production & Power
getting real
Dr Simon Duffy ￭ The Centre for Welfare Reform
￭ 29th November 2012 ￭ Cardiff, Wales ￭
Presentation for WCVA

2. Co-production is empty without
1.Real shifts of power - Good intentions are
not enough.
2.Entitlements - We need rights - not gifts.
3.Family and community - We are not strong
enough on our own.
4.Social justice - We need constitutional
change in the welfare state.

3. Co-production might mean

4. 1. Good intentions won’t work
“...the standard of justice depends on the equality
of power to compel and that in fact the stronger
do what they have the power to do and the weak
accept what they have to accept.”
cited by Thucydides

6. Erving Goffman's Asylums (1960) arose out the
time he spent in 1955-56 at St Elizabeth's
Hospital Washington DC, where he observed at
first hand the daily life of mental patients and
staff. he concluded that in the 'total institution'
that asylum was, doctors and patients were bound
together in a masquerade in which the first had to
behave in authoritarian fashion while the second
enacted variations on the themes of manic
craziness: even if power lay with the doctors, both
colluded in a social order which perpetuated
madness rather than the vaunted and hoped-for
cure.
From Mad, Bad and Sad by Lisa Appignanesi

8. Citizenship
is the key
1.Purpose - a life of meaning
2.Freedom - directing my own life
3.Money - having enough on which to build
4.Home - being where I belong
5.Help - that fits me
6.Life - getting stuck in
7.Love - getting it and giving it

9. 2. Not gifts, but entitlements

10. The victorious ‘Fabians’
We have little faith in the 'average sensual man',
we do not believe that he can do more than
describe his grievances, we do not think he can
prescribe the remedies
Beatrice Webb

11. The defeated ‘Distributivists’
We say there ought to be in the world a great
mass of scattered powers, privileges, limits, points
of resistance, so that the mass of Commons may
resist tyranny. And we say that there is a
permanent possibility of that central direction,
however much it may have been appointed to
distribute money equally, becoming a tyranny.
G K Chesterton

13. 3. Not on our own

14. Personalisation
Forum Group

15. 4. Time to rethink welfare

17. Honour can exist
anywhere,
love can exist
anywhere,
but justice can exist
only among people
who found their
relationships upon it.
Ursula Le Guin