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En attendant le Poisson de Babel

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Multilinguisme web et problématiques associées. Conférence donnée lors de ParisWeb 2007.

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En attendant le Poisson de Babel

  1. 1. En attendant le Poisson de Babel Stephanie Booth
  2. 2. Internet: contracte l'espace <ul><ul><li>libérés des contraintes géographiques </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>plus de contact interculturel </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>obstacle initial modifié </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>espace langue </li></ul></ul>
  3. 3. Frontières linguistiques <ul><ul><li>Sur internet, les frontières fortes sont linguistiques </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Certaines personnes multilingues servent de pont </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Comment nos outils peuvent-ils les aider à cela? </li></ul></ul>
  4. 4. Erreurs fatales <ul><ul><li>Tout le monde parle anglais, maintenant! </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>pays = langue </li></ul></ul>
  5. 5. Abus géographique <ul><ul><li>IP => pays => langue, juste? </li></ul></ul>pays != langue mauvaise régionalisation
  6. 6. Le pays est important, mais... <ul><ul><li>pour la langue: un élément parmi d'autres </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>pour les lois: très important </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>impôts & censure </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Exemples: </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>livraison de produits </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>pornographie </li></ul></ul>
  7. 7. Coupable! - Amazon
  8. 8. Coupable! - eBay
  9. 9. Coupable! - PayPal
  10. 10. Coupable! - Google Google.ch => DE Blogger en France => FR
  11. 11. Conseils (L10N) <ul><ul><li>localiser/régionaliser tôt et fûté </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>à prévoir dès le départ (pas après-coup) </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>langue !=pays </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>régionalismes (fr-fr, fr-ch, fr-qc, fr-be...) </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>impliquer la communauté </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>« linguiste » dans l'équipe </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>détection intelligente de la langue utilisateur </li></ul></ul>
  12. 12. Détection de la langue utilisateur <ul><ul><li>indiquée par: </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>profil (côté outil) </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>préférences navigateur </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>langue navigateur/OS </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>localisation physique (géo) </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>une langue? n langues? </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>priorité? </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>degré de maîtrise? </li></ul></ul>
  13. 13. Utilisation des préférences navigateur Oh oui, encore!
  14. 14. Quelles sont mes langues? <ul><ul><li>sais / sais pas (trop binaire!) </li></ul></ul>Sais? Parle? Lis? Ecris? Lire un livre? Un article? Avoir une conversation? Ecrire une lettre? Ecrire un livre? Faire une présentation?
  15. 15. Humains multilingues <ul><ul><li>Qui est multilingue? </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>plus de multilingues que de monolingues </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Being human among humans means living in a state of ever incomplete multilingualism. </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Mario Wandruszka </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Etre Homme parmi les Hommes signifie vivre perpétuellement dans un multilinguisme incomplet. </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Mario Wandruszka </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>(ma traduction) </li></ul></ul>
  16. 16. Silos monolingues <ul><ul><li>internet n'est-il pas multilingue? </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>multiples espaces monolingues </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li><> </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>mélange de langues </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>communauté multilingue </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li><> </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>gens multilingues </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>notre place, alors? </li></ul></ul>
  17. 17. Outil de blog: WordPress <ul><li>bien traduit </li></ul><ul><li>la langue est une propriété du blog </li></ul><ul><li>part du principe qu'on blogue dans une langue unique </li></ul><ul><li>pas de stratégies intégrées pour mélanger les langues </li></ul><ul><li>=> 1 blog par langue </li></ul><ul><li>une solution: résumés dans « l'autre langue » </li></ul><ul><li>tout traduire: trop de travail </li></ul><ul><li>public mono&multi assez content </li></ul><ul><li>blogueur « pont » très content </li></ul>
  18. 18. Outil de présence: Twitter <ul><li>pas traduit => problème d'adoption </li></ul><ul><li>communautés non-EN présentes </li></ul><ul><li>filtrer par langue? </li></ul><ul><li>détection de la langue? </li></ul>
  19. 19. L10n insuffisante <ul><li>Localisation/régionalisation: </li></ul><ul><li>traduction de l'interface dans une autre langue </li></ul><ul><li>monolingue dans diverses langues </li></ul><ul><li>« Multilinguisation »: (oui, c'est moche) </li></ul><ul><li>mélange de langues </li></ul><ul><li>gère le code-switching (alternance codique) </li></ul><ul><li>différentes combinaisons de langues </li></ul>
  20. 20. On le fait déjà! <ul><li>Même si nos outils ne sont pas prévus pour </li></ul><ul><li>on est déjà en train d'agir </li></ul><ul><li>notre multilinguisme en ligne </li></ul>une page web != une langue une personne != une langue
  21. 21. Traduction sur la même page
  22. 22. Une critique en deux langues
  23. 23. Twitter
  24. 24. Twitter encore
  25. 25. Citations en langues étrangères
  26. 26. Bloguer bilingue
  27. 27. ...Ou pire
  28. 28. Réseau social multilingue
  29. 29. Chat MMORPG
  30. 30. Commenter un billet
  31. 31. Commenter un billet
  32. 32. Commenting on a Flickr Photo
  33. 33. Lost in Translation
  34. 34. La fuite des multilingues
  35. 35. Une communauté pour tous?
  36. 36. Le défi multilingue <ul><ul><li>Créer un espace à la fois: </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>adapté aux multilingues </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>adapté aux monolingues </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Comment plaire à tout le monde? </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>différentes combinaisons de langues </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>différentes compétences linguistiques </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Aucune solution n'est parfaite pour tous. </li></ul></ul>
  37. 37. Objectif multilingue <ul><li>Problème stratégique </li></ul><ul><ul><li>quelles langues? </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>traduction? </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>mélange? </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Problème technique </li></ul><ul><ul><li>technologies? </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>encodage </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>traduction, détection </li></ul></ul>
  38. 38. Stratégique <ul><li>comment va-t-on mélanger les différentes langues? </li></ul><ul><li>que traduit-on? paraphrase-t-on? </li></ul><ul><li>comment les gens définissent-ils leurs compétences linguistiques? </li></ul><ul><li>comment précisent-ils ce qu'ils désirent voir? langues inconnues ou non? </li></ul><ul><li>que montre-t-on aux gens? </li></ul><ul><li>processus de publication? de traduction? </li></ul><ul><li>gestion du contenu? </li></ul>Rappel. On est plutôt multilingues.
  39. 39. Technique <ul><li>design: utilisation de l'espace, fonctionnalités, ergonomie, accessibilité! </li></ul><ul><li>encodage: base de données, serveur web, pages </li></ul><ul><li>HTML: lang, hreflang (cercle vicieux) </li></ul><ul><li>détection automatique de la langue </li></ul><ul><li>traduction automatique </li></ul>Rappel. On est plutôt multilingues.
  40. 40. La plupart des gens ont plus d'une langue à leur arc. pour mémoire
  41. 41. Take care ! <ul><li>Crédits photo (Flickr) </li></ul><ul><li>romerican </li></ul><ul><li>Antoon Kuper </li></ul><ul><li>Hobvias Sudoneighm </li></ul><ul><li>Grant MacDonald </li></ul><ul><li>Zoom Zoom </li></ul><ul><li>A JC </li></ul><ul><li>Claude Covo-Farchi </li></ul><ul><li>Stephanie Booth </li></ul><ul><li>Lausanne, Switzerland </li></ul><ul><li>http://climbtothestars.org </li></ul><ul><li>[email_address] </li></ul><ul><li>Skype: steph-booth </li></ul><ul><li>http://twitter.com/stephtara </li></ul>ParisWeb, 16.11.2007 Paris, FR CC by-nc-sa

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