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Church Rites during the Departure of the Pope1- In the presence of the Bishop what do we say before the   bishop? (Kesmaro...
;n;ahi ;nte Mayoucala : pika] etcwtp ;nte Dauid : ]covi;a ;nte Colomwn : Pipneuma ;mparakl/ton v/etaf;i ;ejen ni;apoctoloc...
];mton nac qen kenf ;nnenio] |e|y|u Abraam nemIcaak nem Iakwb qen piparadicoc ;nte ;pounof :;ntef,a nennobi nan ;ebol.3- W...
7- Long Tarhem, does the deacon include the name or not?Yes, the Diptych is supposed to be prayed and in the deacon’srespo...
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اسئلة و اجوبة عن مردات نياحة الاب البطريرك

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اسئلة و اجوبة عن مردات نياحة الاب البطريرك

  1. 1. Church Rites during the Departure of the Pope1- In the presence of the Bishop what do we say before the bishop? (Kesmarout, Ni savev tero and Akchi)?In the presence of a bishop, there will be some changes. ~K;cmarwout Hiten nieu,/ ;nte peniwt ettai/out (;mm/tropolit/c/ ;n;epickopoc) abba (...) : P_... Nicabeu t/rou ;mpeniwt ettai;/out (;mm/tropolit/c/ ;n;epickopoc) abba (...) pimenrit ;nte P|,|c. Marou[acf Marou[acf qen ;tek;kl/ci;a ;ntepeflaoc : ouoh marou ;cmou ;erof hi;tkayedra;nte ni;precbuteroc : je af,w ;noumetiwt ;m;vr/] ;nhan ecwou : eu ;enau ;nje n/etcotwn ouoh eu;eounof. Afwrk ;nje ~P[oic ouoh ;nnefouwm;n;hy/f : je ;nyok pe ;vou/b sa ;eneh : kata ;ttaxic ;mMel,icedek. ~P[oic caou;i nam ;mmok peniwt(;mm/tropolit/c / ;n;epickopoc) abba (...) :~P[oic ef;eareh ;etekmet;wnq : |a|l. Ak[i Ak[i ;t,aric ;mMwuc/c : ]metou/b ;nteMel,icedek ]metqello ;nte Iakwb : pinoj
  2. 2. ;n;ahi ;nte Mayoucala : pika] etcwtp ;nte Dauid : ]covi;a ;nte Colomwn : Pipneuma ;mparakl/ton v/etaf;i ;ejen ni;apoctoloc : ~P[oic ;ef;e ;areh ;e;pwnq nem ;ptaho ;eratf ;mpeniwt ettai/out (;mm/tropolit/c/ ;n;epickopoc) abba (...). ~Vnou] ;nte ;tve ef;etajrof hijenpef;yronoc : ;nhanm/s ;nrompi nem hanc/ou;nhir/nikon. ~Ntefyebi;o ;nnefjaji t/rou capec/t;nnef[alauj ;n,wlem. Twbh ;eP|,|c ;e;hr/i ;ejwn ;ntef,a nennobinan ;ebolqen ouhir/n/ kata pefnis] ;nnai. Kuri;e ;ele/con kuri;e ;ele/con...2- What are the rites of the Prime and Vespers?The rite of Prime and Vespers Raising of Incense is almoststays the same. In the verses of cymbals, if a bishop ispresent, then the verse for the pope is not to be chanted,but rather the following one for the bishop:Ten]ho ;erok ;w|U|c |Y|c : eyrek;areh ;e;pwnq;ndikeoc : abba (...) (pim/tropolit/c/ pi;epickopoc) matajrof hijen nef;yronoc.The Litany of the Departed (in Vespers) is said as normal, noaddition. If the 5 litanies, after the Gospel, are prayedaudibly, the response for the one for the Fathers should bechanged as follows:Twbh ;ejen ;tu,/ ;mpenmakarioc ;niwtettai;/out abba (...) hina ;nte ~P[oic ~Vnou]
  3. 3. ];mton nac qen kenf ;nnenio] |e|y|u Abraam nemIcaak nem Iakwb qen piparadicoc ;nte ;pounof :;ntef,a nennobi nan ;ebol.3- What do we say in the Hetens?Sing the following verse instead of the original one:Hiten nieu,/ ;nte peniwt ettai/out;nar,/;ereuc papa abba (...) : P_ ari;hmot nan ;mpi,w ;ebol ;nte nennobi.4- Do we say Pie Ehmot Ghar?In regular liturgies, don’t say it; but if a bishop is presentchant it as follows:Pi;hmot gar ;mPen_ I/couc Pi,rictoc ef;eswpinem pek;agion pneuma pa_ ;niwt ettai;/out(;mm/tropolit/c / ;n;epickopoc) abba (...).5- Are we supposed to say “Shere pinishty” in the praxis response or just according to the season?No, don’t chant it. It is for the pope when he is present, noteven to bishops; so just say the response according to theseason.6- What do we say in the Adam Aspasmoz (the last verse)?Say the Aspazmos as you do in the regular liturgy, but skip theverse for the pope. If a bishop is present, you may skip his verseas well or say the following:Ten]ho ;erok ;w|U|c |Y|c : eyrek;areh ;e;pwnqpeniwt ;ndikeoc abba (...) (pim/tropolit/c/pi;epickopoc) matajrof hijen pef;yronoc.
  4. 4. 7- Long Tarhem, does the deacon include the name or not?Yes, the Diptych is supposed to be prayed and in the deacon’sresponse the name of the departed pope should be mentioned.8- In the feasts, should we sing long Espateer and Tob Hena?If a bishop is present, then you may sing “Espatees” with skippingthe verse for the pope and sing the part for the bishop. If a bishopis not there, do not sing it at all even if there is a feast. As for“long Tobh Heena”, do not chant it.9- Hymns when a bishop is present like (shenouda) to makario and E Aghapie; when singing those what do we do?These hymns are specific for the pope when he is present; so donot sing them at all.10- What should we say in the 3 major litanies and the 7 minor ones for the Litany of the Fathers? - 01For the 3 major litanies, the 7 minor litanies, and the Diptych thefollowing litany should be said (replacing the one for the Fathers):Priest:Remember, O Lord, the soul of our father thePatriarch Abba (…).Deacon:Pray for the soul of our blessed and honoredfather Abba (…) that the Lord God mayrepose it in the bosom of our holy fathersAbraham, Isaac and Jacob in the paradise ofjoy, and forgive us our sins.Congregation:Lord have mercy.
  5. 5. Priest:Graciously repose it with your saints. Grantto appoint for us a good shepherd toshepherd Your people in purity andrighteousness.If this prayer is said instead of the Long Litany of the Fathers, thepriest continues with: “and all the orthodox bishops…”, but if it issaid instead of the Short Litany of the Fathers, the priestcontinues with: “and those who rightly handle the word of truthwith him”. For the Diptych, the priest may continues with “Those,O Lord, whose souls You have taken…” or with the Diptych of theliturgy of Saint Cyril “Those, O Lord, and everyone whose nameswe have mentioned…”.11- What about Good Friday confession of the thief (the last verse)?During Passion Week, in the Daytime or Nighttime Litanies, theverse for the pope is replaced with the following:Pray for the repose of the soul of our blessedand honored father the archbishop Abba (…)that Jesus our God may repose it in theparadise of joy, appoint for us a goodshepherd, and forgive us our sins.As for the Confession of the Thief that is chanted in Good Friday,the last verse would be as follows:We ask Him who was crucified on the woodof the cross, shed His divine blood for us, andtrampled death by His death to forgive usour sins; and repose the soul of our fatherthe pope and patriarch Abba (…), and keep
  6. 6. for us the life of my fathers who are gatheredhere in this church from the youngest to theoldest. Say all of you.12- What should we do with the last verse of the Commemoration of Saints in Midnight Praise?Skip it, don’t say it.

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