FETAL PAIN
8 weeks
Unborn and Newborn Pain         Circa 1978General belief – Unborn and Newborn didnot “Feel” painNo analgesia for newborn c...
Fetal Pain     And Abortion:      The Medical        Evidence            By:  Vincent J. Collins, MD Steven R. Zielinski, ...
Pain:         an unpleasant sensoryand emotional experience associatedwith actual or potential tissue damage             o...
Animal Pain – Perception and AlleviationKitchell, R.L., Erickson, H.H., eds.Bethesda, MD.:American Physiological Soc., 1983
Essential Elements     Structure     FunctionAversive Response to A Noxious Stimulus
Look like smallbushes or the frayedend of a ropeRespond topressure,heat,or cold
Nerves gather into TRACTSThat enter Dorsal Hornof the Spinal Cord and go up
THALAMUSCentral processingcenter for sensoryinformation
ELECTRICAL ACTIVITY       Present at 40 days       A recognizable EEG at 19-20 weeksNEUROTRANSMITTERS        Substance P, ...
AVERSIVE RESPONSETO A NOXIOUS STIMULUS Full body aversive responses to painful stimuli can be easily  witnessed on ultraso...
NOT JUST PRESENCE, BUT CHANGEFrom 16 weeks gestation, the typical change in brain circulationis seen in the fetal brain in...
EXCUSESCant speak, cant feel pain.ReflexNo myelin - no pain.No CortexMinimal or incomplete responseNo memory
Decorticate and Decerebrate Rigidity
Stressed-out, or in (utero)?http://www.med.upenn.edu/ins/Journal%20Club/08-09/Fall%202008/Tallie%20Z.%20Baram/tins02.pdfAb...
RELIGION        DARWINFETALPAIN
CONSCIOUSNESS  A simple definition of consciousness is sensory  awareness of the body, the self, and the world.At 20 weeks...
REMEMBRANCE
Dr. Vincent Collins
Thomas J. Marzen, Esq.
http://www.anaesthetist.com/icu/pain/Findex.htm#pain3.htmProbably the most significant discovery ever in the field ofpain ...
We now have a molecular marker for pain!Even more important, we know thatbecause c-fos is a proto-oncogene - thatis, it ca...
FOS has been found inthe fetal bones at leastas early as the 16thweek of gestation.
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  1. 1. FETAL PAIN
  2. 2. 8 weeks
  3. 3. Unborn and Newborn Pain Circa 1978General belief – Unborn and Newborn didnot “Feel” painNo analgesia for newborn circumcisionNo anesthesia for newborn or neonatal surgeryMain method of surgical anesthesia: Adhesive Tape
  4. 4. Fetal Pain And Abortion: The Medical Evidence By: Vincent J. Collins, MD Steven R. Zielinski, MDThomas J. Marzen, Esq. AMERICANS UNITED FOR LIFE Legal Defense FundLaw and Medicine Series 1984
  5. 5. Pain: an unpleasant sensoryand emotional experience associatedwith actual or potential tissue damage or described in terms of such damage.
  6. 6. Animal Pain – Perception and AlleviationKitchell, R.L., Erickson, H.H., eds.Bethesda, MD.:American Physiological Soc., 1983
  7. 7. Essential Elements Structure FunctionAversive Response to A Noxious Stimulus
  8. 8. Look like smallbushes or the frayedend of a ropeRespond topressure,heat,or cold
  9. 9. Nerves gather into TRACTSThat enter Dorsal Hornof the Spinal Cord and go up
  10. 10. THALAMUSCentral processingcenter for sensoryinformation
  11. 11. ELECTRICAL ACTIVITY Present at 40 days A recognizable EEG at 19-20 weeksNEUROTRANSMITTERS Substance P, Glutamate, CGRP, VIPHORMONES Cortisol, Norepinephrine
  12. 12. AVERSIVE RESPONSETO A NOXIOUS STIMULUS Full body aversive responses to painful stimuli can be easily witnessed on ultrasound at 13-1/2 weeks gestation… –Collins, Marzen & Zielinski, 1984
  13. 13. NOT JUST PRESENCE, BUT CHANGEFrom 16 weeks gestation, the typical change in brain circulationis seen in the fetal brain in response to a painful stimulus. Wladimiroff JW et. al. Obstet Gynecol 1987;69:705-9Cardiovascular responses such as increases in bloodpressure and heart rate, abnormal heart rhythms, orpoor cardiac output.Hormonal stress responses to painful stimuli asearly as 16 weeks gestational age, possibly sooner. Anesthesia blunts these responses
  14. 14. EXCUSESCant speak, cant feel pain.ReflexNo myelin - no pain.No CortexMinimal or incomplete responseNo memory
  15. 15. Decorticate and Decerebrate Rigidity
  16. 16. Stressed-out, or in (utero)?http://www.med.upenn.edu/ins/Journal%20Club/08-09/Fall%202008/Tallie%20Z.%20Baram/tins02.pdfAbstract…recent evidence that stressful stimuli have a significant impact on neonatal (rat)and prenatal (human) hippocampal function and integrity…Early-life stress could constitute a ‘double-edged sword’: mild stress mightpromote hippocampal-dependent cognitive function, whereas severe stress mightimpair neuronal function and survival, both immediately and in the long-term.Importantly, these CRH-mediated processes could be targets of preventive andinterventional strategies.
  17. 17. RELIGION DARWINFETALPAIN
  18. 18. CONSCIOUSNESS A simple definition of consciousness is sensory awareness of the body, the self, and the world.At 20 weeks, the fetal brain has the full complementof neurons present in adulthood. Lagercrantz H et. al. Lakartidningen 1991;88:1880-85By 19-20 weeks, the earliest electroencephalogram(EEG) recordings are possible. Flower MJ. J Med Philos 1985;10:237-251From 20 weeks and beyond, the fetus is fully capable of experiencing pain. Expert testimony from Dr. Robert White, pediatric neurosurgeon, before U.S. Congress, June 15, 1995
  19. 19. REMEMBRANCE
  20. 20. Dr. Vincent Collins
  21. 21. Thomas J. Marzen, Esq.
  22. 22. http://www.anaesthetist.com/icu/pain/Findex.htm#pain3.htmProbably the most significant discovery ever in the field ofpain has been the gene c-fos.The cellular analogue of a viral oncogene, this ratherspecial gene and its cellular product, the protein called Fosseem crucial to the profound central nervoussystem changes that occur when an animal (orman) feels pain.Central nervous system c-fos expressioncorrelates extremely well with painfulstimulation. Generically, Fos is one of the inducibletranscription factors (ITFs) that controls mammalian geneexpression.
  23. 23. We now have a molecular marker for pain!Even more important, we know thatbecause c-fos is a proto-oncogene - thatis, it can promote vast intracellular changesincluding cellular restructuring andproliferation - it is almost certainly involved in the long-term neurological consequences ofnoxious stimulation.
  24. 24. FOS has been found inthe fetal bones at leastas early as the 16thweek of gestation.

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