Role of ‘sublord’

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Sublord in KP plays an important role. Prof. K.S.Krishnamurti has profounded KP astrology where sublord is the deciding factor. Planet sublord decides the happening of events and house sublord decides the potential of house.

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Role of ‘sublord’

  1. 1. ROLE OF ‘SUBLORD’ IN PREDICTION OF EVENTS -Rajendra Nimje,IAS President KP Astrologers Forum , India Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008
  2. 2. Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008 KP REVOLVES AROUND SUBLORD  Prof. Krishnamurti found ‘ sublord ‘ - a portion of constellation based on proportional division of constellations span on Dasa system. It is this narrow area in zodiac ranging from 0deg 46 min and 40 sec to 2 deg 13 min and 20 sec which plays a dominant role in deciding the planetary or cuspal signification.
  3. 3. Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008 STAR- CONSTELLATION SPACE  Zodiac divided in 12 Rasis – 360 Deg  Each Rasi Span is 30 Degrees. First Rasi Aries or Mesha and the last Pisces or Meena  Stellar division of Zodiac – 27 Constellations  First Constellation is Ashwini and the Last Rewati.  Span of each Constellation is 13 Deg 20 Min of the Zodiac Space
  4. 4. Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008 SUBLORD • Each Constellation is 13Deg20Min in Zodiac • It is further divided in the proportion of Vimshottari Dasa – Sequence Starts from Owner of the Constellation • This division is called the sub division or Sub in Krishnamurthy Paddhati • The divisions are unequal in size. e.g Ketu’s sub will occupy (13 deg 20 min * 7/120) space of Zodiac. Venus – 13deg20min* 20/120
  5. 5. SUBLORDS IN KETU’S CONSTELLATION IN ARIES Sign Sign lord Constellation Star lord Sub-lord From- To (Deg,Min,Sec) Aries- Mesha Mars Ashwini Ketu Ketu 00.0.00-00.46.40 Aries Mars Ashwini Ketu Venus 0:46:40-3:00:00 Aries Mars Ashwini Ketu Sun 3:00:00-3:40:00 Aries Mars Ashwini Ketu moon 3:40:00-4:46:40 Aries Mars Ashwini Ketu mars 4:46:40-5:33:20 Aries Mars Ashwini Ketu Rahu 5:33:20-7:33:20 Aries Mars Ashwini Ketu Jupiter 7:33.20-9:20:00 Aries Mars Ashwini Ketu Saturn 9:20:00-11:26:40 Aries Mars Ashwini Ketu Mercury 11:26:40-13:20:00
  6. 6. Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008 HOUSE DIVISION & CUSP • KP uses Placidus division of houses - Cusps • Cusp starting Deg, Min Sec is important for deciding the matters of that Cusp. • Cusp will fall in a Rasi , Constellation and a SUB e.g. Ascendant at 21deg58min01sec • Means Aries Rasi Owned by Mars Constellations is Bharani owned by Venus and the SUBLORD area is ruled by SATURN • The Cuspal sublord decides whether to give results and to what extent about the Cusp
  7. 7. Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008 CUSPAL SUBLORD IS THE KING • Main house Cuspal SUBLORD if signify the main or auxiliary houses then the matter will fructify in the Dasa Bhuki and antara of the significators of these cusps • e.g 7th Cusp is the main cusp for marriage. • 7th Cuspal Sublord if signify 7or 2 or 11 then the marriage is promised for the native • 7th Cuspal sublord if not at all signifying 7 or 2 or 11 then the person will remain unmarried.
  8. 8. Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008 TRIPLETS CASE • Triplets are born in Vijayawada, Andhra Pradesh on 22nd June 2003 at • Triplet I at 10.10AM • Triplet II at 10.16 AM • Triplet III at 10.26 AM • The Ascendant is in Leo Rasi and Ketu Star for all the three triplets • As per traditional astrology • Leo owner Sun in 10th and Constellation Ketu in 3rd Promises Good Longevity to all triplets • Sun and Saturn are conjoined in Gemini giving long life to the baby as Saturn the karaka for longevity is a conjoining with life giver sun in the house of longevity.
  9. 9. Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008 TRIPLET- I Krishnamurthy Padhdhati - Ascendant sublord should connect to the houses of longevity 1, 3, or 8 favorably. The lagna sublord should not connect to maraka on badhaka houses else the longevity will be short/middle Here the ascendant is Leo 8deg 4 min and the sublord is Jupiter which is placed in the 12th house i.e. house for moksha. Jupiter is traversing in the constellation of Mercury which is owning untenanted maraka house 2nd (Virgo) Mercury is aspected by Mars who is on the cusp of Maraka house 7th and owns badhaka house 9th for this triplet.
  10. 10. Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008 TRIPLET II The Ascendant sublord is Saturn in constellation of Rahu who is posited in the badhaka house . Saturn however is placed in the Gemini and is aspecting lagna and eighth houses. Rahu gives results of its Starlord Sun which is ascendant lord and posited in 10th . Rahu also signifies its rasi lord Venus which is owning 3 and 10 and posited in 10th . Saturn or Rahu is not signifying 2nd house or 7th house and hence the maraka is not operated by the ascendant sublord. The 6th cuspal sublord of this triplet is Venus. Venus in star of moon and sub of sun. Venus is owner of 3 and 10 and posited in 10th . Moon is owning 12th and posited in 8th . There is no connection of 6 or ascendant.
  11. 11. Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008 TRIPLET III Ascendant Sublord is Mercury is placed in 10th house owning 11th and second which is a maraka house. Mercury is placed in constellation of moon which is placed in 8th house owning 12th house. There is no immediate danger to the life of this triplet as badhaka is not connected in this case. Moreover 8th house is playing a role of providing more longevity to the baby. Sixth sublord which is Mars in the constellation and sub of Rahu. Any connectivity between sixth house and ascendant makes the native weaker and susceptible to disease. Here Mars is placed in sixth house aspecting ascendant, in constellation of Rahu which is strong significator of ascendant through its starlord sun. Rahu in sub of Saturn gives indication on the nature of disease. This triplet is crippled and could not walk properly till today.
  12. 12. Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008 CUSPAL SUBLORD – DECIDES THE QUANTUM  The benefits are enjoyed by the client only when the cuspal sub lord promises. Analogy - ‘In order to fetch the water in bucket from well, Water must be in the well first’  How Much?- Analogy – Whether water is a bucket full or tumbler full or only a glass full.  Quantum is also decided by Cuspal SUBLORD.  Cuspal Sub if signifies main and auxiliary houses all then the full quantum else proportionate
  13. 13. Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008 QUANTUM OF PROMISE • e. g. 2nd Cusp decides the Finance for the Chart Natal/Horary • 2nd Sub signifies 2, 6 and 11 all and not connected to 1 and 5 then Native is a Billionaire. • 2nd Sub Signify 2 and 6 or 2 and 11 = Millionaire • 2nd Sub Signify 2 or 6 or 11 – Reasonable finance • 2nd Sub Signify 2 and 6 and 12 then Earning and Spending • 2nd Sub Signify 1, 5, 10 only then Hand to Mouth
  14. 14. Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008 KP RULE FOR PLANETARY SIGNIFICATION  Planet is the Source, Constellation Lord by ownership and placement shows the Result and SUB LORD is the decider of the event  The results are good if the sub is connecting to houses harmonious to the matter  Results are bad if sub is connecting to negative houses to the matter
  15. 15. Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008 PLANETS UNDER DICTATE OF ITS SUB • Planet by position or ownership of houses will give results- Traditional Astrology • Planet will give the result of constellation lord by placement and ownership of houses. • e. g In a period of a planet if it indicates 4 and 11 house and Venus connection by Dasa Lord and its constellation lord – Vehicle is promised. • Sub of the Dasa Lord if connected to 4 or 11 then Native will possess a Vehicle • Sub of Dasa Lord if connected to 3 or 12 then the Native will part with the Vehicle
  16. 16. Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008VOTE CASE FOR PLANETARY SUB’S ROLE
  17. 17. Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008 DBA -RAHU/VEN/SAT  Dasa lord Rahu conj. With Mer in 6th.  There are planets in Rahu constellation (sat,moon,mer and ketu) hence Rahu is weak significator of 3, mer(3,12,9)  Rahu’s const. lord is Ven- 8th = trouble but good for longevity. It is owning untenanted lagna , hence strong for longevity.  -- Rahu is in the Sub of moon the lord of 10th house. It is placed in 8th house but not connected with maraka and badhaka. Full Longevity
  18. 18. Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008 BHUKTI - VENUS  Bhukti lord Venus signifies Ascendant and eight both longevity houses. It is in constellation of Mars owning tenanted maraka house 7th and untenanted maraka house 2nd. Though signifies danger but placed in 8th indicates it will ward off.  Venus is in sub of Ketu , Ketu is placed on the Ascendant Cusp harmonizing with Longevity to the Chart. Ketu in sign of Venus placed in 8th .
  19. 19. Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008 ANTARA- SATURN  Saturn is the sublord , the planet which is in 8th which increases longevity. Sat is strong to give results as no one in its star. Sat is owning 4 and 5 strongly. Sat in star of Rahu good for longevity but connecting to Mars 2,7 and 8.  Sublord of Saturn is Venus which is in 8th and owning lagna , hence Saturn antara is good for longevity. Mars will try to pose a threat to the longevity but Venus the sub will protect the life of the Govt.
  20. 20. Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008 POSITIVE & NEGATIVE TOGETHER  If the cuspal sublord signifies Main or auxiliary houses then the matter regarding the main house will fructify  If CSL is Signifying negative houses then the matter will not fructify  If CSL signify both Harmonious and Non- Harmonious houses then?  Both the events happen
  21. 21. Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008 BOTH- IN RESPECTIVE SUB PERIODS  e. g . 7th Sublord signifies 7 and 6th ; 2nd and 1st then marriage and divorce/seperation both are stored for the native.  In the period/sub-period of planet which signify 2, 7 he will marry and in the sub- period of 1, 6 there will be separation. (Naresh Mani case)  If 10th sub indicate 10, 9 and 6 and 5 both getting and leaving the job is indicated  Period/sub-period of 10, 6 native will join and in the period/sub-period of 9 and 5 he will leave.
  22. 22. Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008 MIXED RESULTS  In some cases we get mixed results when CSL signify positive and negative houses.  e.g. 2nd CSL signifying 2 & 1 ; 6 & 5 will give money to native but not to the extent which is would have got if CSL connects only to 2 and 6
  23. 23. Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008 CSL & DBA  CSL promise and DBA operation both needed for fructification of the event  If CSL is promising but the DBA are over before the birth or will operate after the Longevity then the matter will not fructify  CSL not promising but DBA strongly indicate the matter – (Common Case for making errors)- Matter will not fructify
  24. 24. Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008 NEW AREAS FOR THE SUB  Sublord of one house say Venus is also sublord for other houses. Does it become significator of other houses?  e.g CSL of 2nd is Venus is also sub of 12th and 1st . Does Venus connects 2 and 12 houses. i.e. the native will earn and spend?  The matter needs more research and will be included in new areas of research at KPAF
  25. 25. Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008 SUB’S STARLORD  KP rule is planet being source, constellation lord gives result and sub is the decider. If planet’s sub agrees then only we can confirm the results of planet and its constellation lord.  However, New Four Step Theory considers sub as not decider but significator. Moreover, Planet’s Sub’s Starlord is also considered as Significator.  The matter is already undergoing research at KPAF
  26. 26. Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008 PLANET IN SELF CONSTELLATION  If Planet is in Self Constellation then one school of thought replaces Const. lord by its sub and sub by sub-sub  e.g if Venus is in Venus constellation and Mercury sub and Mars sub-sub then it is  Venus-Mer-Mar i..e Venus in star of Mercury in sub of Mars.  If the Constellation and sub is same then replace sub by sub-sub
  27. 27. Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008 SUB DECIDING RPS?  Ruling Planets is the magic stick in Krishnamurthy Padhdhati  How to Choose if there are many Ruling Planets?  RPs which are in favorable sub to the matter will give results. RPs which are in sub negating the houses under consideration or even neutral houses will not give results.
  28. 28. Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008 SUB’S ROLE IN HORARY  If Cuspal Sub’s star is Retrograde planet then in Horary the matter will not fructify.  However, if sub is retrograde then?  Matter does fructify when the retrogression is over and the planet comes back to same deg in direct motion.  If Sub is RETRO and has no planets in its constellation or it is in self constellation then the matter will not fructify. (Ref. A&A Sept.1970 P.19)
  29. 29. Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008 SHALL WE GO TO SUB-SUB?  New theories like cuspal interlinks depends on Cuspal sub-sub.  However in pure application of KP the SUB IS THE KING AND SUPREME AUTHORITY to decide the Capability and Quantity in case of Cuspal sub and allowing event to happen in case of Planetary Sub. It also helps in RP filtration which is the master key of KP
  30. 30. Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008Prof. KSK Centenary Celebrations Year -2008 THANK YOU rajendranimje@yahoo.com rajendra@astrouser.com

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