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Clojure in US vs Europe
A First-hand Experience Report
Presented at Amsterdam Clojure Meetup July 2015 by Paul Lam (@Quant...
Paul’s Clojure work history
Boston
S.
F.
2012 2013 20152014
London
Boston Clojure Meetup
Spokepoint
YC
Startup
uSwitch
Inc...
“This City is what it is because our citizens are what they are”
- Plato
My Airbnb host in The Hague
● Traveled across the
world since the 60’s
… by ships
● Rigged a rainwater
collection system f...
London
A London Clojurian You Might Meet
● Java developer from
a bank in a prior life
● With a young family
living in Barnet
● Ki...
My life as a Clojurian in London
Likes:
● First Londoners I’ve met
were from the Clojure
Dojo
● Received lots of support
f...
Clojure Shops in London
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/london-clojurians
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/...
Cambridge, MA
A Cambridge Clojurian You Might Meet
● Graduated from both
MIT and Harvard
● Works on
processing
genomics data
● Actually ...
My life as a Clojurian in Cambridge
Likes:
● Ran into Richard
Stallman on my first
weekend
● Met many people
solving hard ...
Clojure Shops in Greater Boston Area
http://www.meetup.com/Boston-Clojure-Group/
San Francisco
A SF Clojurian You Might Meet
My life as a Clojurian in San Francisco
Likes:
● Even my non-tech
clients have heard about
Clojure
● #1 startup ecosystem
...
Clojure shops in San Francisco
http://www.meetup.com/The-Bay-Area-Clojure-User-Group/
More that I don’t know about
Summary
Choose London if you ...
● Prefer European lifestyle
● Wants to work for a mid size company
● Build a European presence
Choose Boston if you ...
● Want to use Clojure for hard science or
education technologies
Choose San Francisco if you ...
● Wants to drink the startup kool-aid
● Be part of a massive Clojure community
Other Clojure hotspots?
Amsterdam?
Contact
Paul Lam
● paul@quantisan.com
● @Quantisan
Next talk in Berlin on 15 July, Yet Another Startup Built on Clojure(Sc...
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Clojure in US vs Europe

  1. 1. Clojure in US vs Europe A First-hand Experience Report Presented at Amsterdam Clojure Meetup July 2015 by Paul Lam (@Quantisan)
  2. 2. Paul’s Clojure work history Boston S. F. 2012 2013 20152014 London Boston Clojure Meetup Spokepoint YC Startup uSwitch Incanter Cascalog Tour
  3. 3. “This City is what it is because our citizens are what they are” - Plato
  4. 4. My Airbnb host in The Hague ● Traveled across the world since the 60’s … by ships ● Rigged a rainwater collection system for her garden
  5. 5. London
  6. 6. A London Clojurian You Might Meet ● Java developer from a bank in a prior life ● With a young family living in Barnet ● Kite-surfing in Brighton ● Knows every pub in the city
  7. 7. My life as a Clojurian in London Likes: ● First Londoners I’ve met were from the Clojure Dojo ● Received lots of support from Clojure people in and out of workplace ● Well connected to the rest of European Clojure groups Dislikes: ● Can’t afford to buy a flat in London ● Work visa sponsorship rules out working at newer companies or doing a startup
  8. 8. Clojure Shops in London https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/london-clojurians https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/london-clojurian-jobs Mastodon C
  9. 9. Cambridge, MA
  10. 10. A Cambridge Clojurian You Might Meet ● Graduated from both MIT and Harvard ● Works on processing genomics data ● Actually uses Common Lisp and Haskell ● Family with kids living in the South Shore
  11. 11. My life as a Clojurian in Cambridge Likes: ● Ran into Richard Stallman on my first weekend ● Met many people solving hard problems ● Small but close-knit community ● Swimming or bouldering at lunch Dislikes: ● Few Clojure teams ● Am not one of the students in the more than 100 colleges in greater Boston area
  12. 12. Clojure Shops in Greater Boston Area http://www.meetup.com/Boston-Clojure-Group/
  13. 13. San Francisco
  14. 14. A SF Clojurian You Might Meet
  15. 15. My life as a Clojurian in San Francisco Likes: ● Even my non-tech clients have heard about Clojure ● #1 startup ecosystem ○ mentoring ○ funding ○ collaborating ● 3-4 Clojure meetups in a month ● No shortage of services catering to SV geeky lifestyle Dislikes: ● Rent of my room is same as my whole flat in London ● Drinking the startup Kool-Aid ● Insulated from the non- tech world
  16. 16. Clojure shops in San Francisco http://www.meetup.com/The-Bay-Area-Clojure-User-Group/ More that I don’t know about
  17. 17. Summary
  18. 18. Choose London if you ... ● Prefer European lifestyle ● Wants to work for a mid size company ● Build a European presence
  19. 19. Choose Boston if you ... ● Want to use Clojure for hard science or education technologies
  20. 20. Choose San Francisco if you ... ● Wants to drink the startup kool-aid ● Be part of a massive Clojure community
  21. 21. Other Clojure hotspots? Amsterdam?
  22. 22. Contact Paul Lam ● paul@quantisan.com ● @Quantisan Next talk in Berlin on 15 July, Yet Another Startup Built on Clojure(Script)

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