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  • Autodesk, AutoCAD, Civil 3D, and Revit are registered trademarks or trademarks of Autodesk, Inc., and/or its subsidiaries and/or affiliates in the USA and/or other countries. All other brand names, product names, or trademarks belong to their respective holders. Autodesk reserves the right to alter product offerings and specifications at any time without notice, and is not responsible for typographical or graphical errors that may appear in this document. © 2009 Autodesk, Inc. All rights reserved.
  • Autodesk, AutoCAD, Civil 3D, and Revit are registered trademarks or trademarks of Autodesk, Inc., and/or its subsidiaries and/or affiliates in the USA and/or other countries. All other brand names, product names, or trademarks belong to their respective holders. Autodesk reserves the right to alter product offerings and specifications at any time without notice, and is not responsible for typographical or graphical errors that may appear in this document. © 2009 Autodesk, Inc. All rights reserved.
  • Autodesk, AutoCAD, Civil 3D, and Revit are registered trademarks or trademarks of Autodesk, Inc., and/or its subsidiaries and/or affiliates in the USA and/or other countries. All other brand names, product names, or trademarks belong to their respective holders. Autodesk reserves the right to alter product offerings and specifications at any time without notice, and is not responsible for typographical or graphical errors that may appear in this document. © 2009 Autodesk, Inc. All rights reserved.
  • Clearing the-hurdles

    1. 1. “ Clearing the Hurdles” Civil 3D Implementation for the Land Desktop User Jerry Bartels Civil Technical Specialist - Autodesk
    2. 2. <ul><li>Jerry Bartels – Autodesk Civil Technical Specialist </li></ul><ul><li>Used AutoCAD based civil products for over 20 years. </li></ul><ul><li>CAD Manager with a civil engineering and land surveying firm. </li></ul><ul><li>Implementation, Instruction and Consultation services. </li></ul><ul><li>Written various curriculum and training materials. </li></ul><ul><li>7 years experience as a municipal official </li></ul><ul><li>Introduction: </li></ul><ul><li>Transitioned from DCA to Softdesk to Land Desktop to Civil 3D. </li></ul>
    3. 3. <ul><li>Implementing Civil 3D </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Options… </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>How to get started… </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>When to get started… </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Demonstration </li></ul><ul><li>Summary </li></ul><ul><li>Questions </li></ul><ul><li>Overview: </li></ul>
    4. 4. <ul><li>Understand implementation options </li></ul><ul><li>ROI on your software investment </li></ul><ul><li>Dispel misconceptions </li></ul><ul><li>Compel you to begin the transition </li></ul><ul><li>Goals: </li></ul>Let’s Get Started…. At the end of today’s session…
    5. 5. <ul><li>I never had to do this before!! </li></ul><ul><li>Why now? </li></ul>
    6. 6. Project **Click**
    7. 7. <ul><li>What is the best way to learn to use this new tool? (Civil 3D) </li></ul>
    8. 8. <ul><li>Four-Phase Methodology </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Assess </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Plan </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Solve </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Confirm </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Full Implementation Strategy: </li></ul>A more structured implementation having clearly defined milestones throughout a designated pilot project.
    9. 9. <ul><li>Assessment Phase </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Current processes </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Management Buy-in </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Team Buy-in </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Goals for implementation </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Full Implementation Strategy: </li></ul>
    10. 10. <ul><li>Planning Phase </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Software setup </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Training plan </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Pilot project </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Project team </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Who will do the work </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>When will the work be done </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Full Implementation Strategy: </li></ul>
    11. 11. <ul><li>Solve Phase </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Installation </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Customization </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Training </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>On-Going support </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Review sessions </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Full Implementation Strategy: </li></ul>
    12. 12. <ul><li>Confirmation Phase </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Were the goals met? </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Is management happy with the results? </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Is the project team happy? </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Full Implementation Strategy: </li></ul><ul><ul><li>What worked, what didn’t? </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Plan for the future </li></ul></ul>
    13. 13. <ul><li>Traditional Method </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Requires significant up front planning </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Disruptive </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Full Implementation Strategy: </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Take a step back before you take the leap forward </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Fastest way to implement Civil 3D </li></ul></ul>
    14. 14. <ul><li>I’m not sure a Full Implementation is the right thing for me. </li></ul>
    15. 15. <ul><li>Implement Civil 3D as a tool to supplement YOUR existing Land Desktop workflow. </li></ul><ul><li>One “Tool” at a Time Strategy: </li></ul>
    16. 16. <ul><li>One “Tool” at a Time Strategy: </li></ul><ul><li>As your Tool Set increases… </li></ul><ul><li>You naturally reach a point where it doesn’t make sense to use LD any more. </li></ul>Adopt Civil 3D one tool at a time… **Click**
    17. 17. <ul><li>One “Tool” at a Time Strategy: </li></ul>
    18. 18. <ul><li>One “Tool” at a Time Strategy: </li></ul>
    19. 19. <ul><li>Four-Phase Methodology </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Assess </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Plan </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Solve </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Confirm </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Full Implementation Strategy: </li></ul>A more structured implementation having clearly defined milestones throughout a designated pilot project.
    20. 20. <ul><li>Assessment Phase </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Current processes </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Management Buy-in </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Team Buy-in </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Goals for implementation </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Full Implementation Strategy: </li></ul>
    21. 21. <ul><li>Planning Phase </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Software setup </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Training plan </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Pilot project </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Project team </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Who will do the work </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>When will the work be done </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Full Implementation Strategy: </li></ul>
    22. 22. <ul><li>Solve Phase </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Installation </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Customization </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Training </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>On-Going support </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Review sessions </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Full Implementation Strategy: </li></ul>
    23. 23. <ul><li>Confirmation Phase </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Were the goals met? </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Is management happy with the results? </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Is the project team happy? </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Full Implementation Strategy: </li></ul><ul><ul><li>What worked, what didn’t? </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Plan for the future </li></ul></ul>
    24. 24. <ul><li>Traditional Method </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Requires significant up front planning </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Disruptive </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Full Implementation Strategy: </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Take a step back before you take the leap forward </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Fastest way to implement Civil 3D </li></ul></ul>
    25. 25. <ul><li>Quantity </li></ul><ul><li>Take-Off </li></ul><ul><li>Google </li></ul><ul><li>Earth </li></ul><ul><li>Earthwork </li></ul><ul><li>Interface </li></ul><ul><li>Alignments </li></ul><ul><li>Surfaces </li></ul><ul><li>Points </li></ul><ul><li>Parcels </li></ul><ul><li>Proposed </li></ul><ul><li>Profiles </li></ul><ul><li>Existing </li></ul><ul><li>Profiles </li></ul><ul><li>Survey </li></ul><ul><li>One “Tool” at a Time Strategy: </li></ul>
    26. 26. <ul><li>Summary: </li></ul>
    27. 27. <ul><li>Summary: </li></ul><ul><li>Immediate ROI on software investment </li></ul><ul><li>Leverage Civil 3D 2010 tools with older versions of LD </li></ul><ul><li>Transition at your own pace </li></ul><ul><li>NOT dependent on Civil 3D “Styles” Creation </li></ul><ul><li>Minimal disruption </li></ul><ul><li>Targeted training </li></ul><ul><li>Step forward without first taking a step back </li></ul>One Tool at a time strategy means… Start Today…
    28. 28. <ul><li>Understand implementation options </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Four Phase Implementation - Fastest </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>One Tool at a Time – Most Flexible </li></ul></ul><ul><li>ROI on your software investment </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Tool strategy provides immediate return Google Earth, QTO, Earthwork, Parcel renumbering… </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Dispel misconceptions </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Civil 3D implementation is NOT all or nothing </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>YOU can control the process </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Compel you to begin the transition </li></ul><ul><ul><li>A Land Desktop user can quickly become proficient in any of the tools we reviewed today. </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Goals: </li></ul>
    29. 29. <ul><li>Resources: </li></ul>Rolling Deployment Series: Intro & Surfaces Alignments Earthwork Parcels Points Survey Civil 3D on a Dime: Civil 3D 2010 Ribbon Interface Recorded Webcasts: Book: Web: Moving from Land Desktop to Civil 3D www.autodesk.com/civil-resourcecenter
    30. 30. <ul><li>Questions: </li></ul>
    31. 31. <ul><li>Autodesk, AutoCAD, Civil 3D, and Revit are registered trademarks or trademarks of Autodesk, Inc., and/or its subsidiaries and/or affiliates in the USA and/or other countries. All other brand names, product names, or trademarks belong to their respective holders. Autodesk reserves the right to alter product offerings and specifications at any time without notice, and is not responsible for typographical or graphical errors that may appear in this document. </li></ul><ul><li>© 2009 Autodesk, Inc. All rights reserved. </li></ul>Autodesk, AutoCAD, Civil 3D, DWG,
    32. 32. <ul><li>Autodesk, AutoCAD, Civil 3D, and Revit are registered trademarks or trademarks of Autodesk, Inc., and/or its subsidiaries and/or affiliates in the USA and/or other countries. All other brand names, product names, or trademarks belong to their respective holders. Autodesk reserves the right to alter product offerings and specifications at any time without notice, and is not responsible for typographical or graphical errors that may appear in this document. </li></ul><ul><li>© 2009 Autodesk, Inc. All rights reserved. </li></ul>Autodesk, AutoCAD, Civil 3D, DWG,
    33. 33. <ul><li>Autodesk, AutoCAD, Civil 3D, and Revit are registered trademarks or trademarks of Autodesk, Inc., and/or its subsidiaries and/or affiliates in the USA and/or other countries. All other brand names, product names, or trademarks belong to their respective holders. Autodesk reserves the right to alter product offerings and specifications at any time without notice, and is not responsible for typographical or graphical errors that may appear in this document. </li></ul><ul><li>© 2009 Autodesk, Inc. All rights reserved. </li></ul>Autodesk, AutoCAD, Civil 3D, DWG,
    34. 34. <ul><li>Not intuitive to new user </li></ul><ul><li>Workspaces = Modules </li></ul><ul><li>Numerous pull down menus </li></ul><ul><li>Requires special LD commands </li></ul><ul><li>SDI – Single Document Interface </li></ul><ul><li>MUST associate project with .DWG </li></ul><ul><li>Interface: </li></ul>Land Desktop Land Desktop
    35. 35. <ul><li>Very intuitive </li></ul><ul><li>Tool Space </li></ul><ul><li>Single application </li></ul><ul><li>Ribbons “Right Tool at the Right Time” </li></ul><ul><li>Use standard AutoCAD commands </li></ul><ul><li>Multi Document Environment </li></ul><ul><li>Project association not a requirement </li></ul><ul><li>Interface: </li></ul>Civil 3D Civil 3D
    36. 36. <ul><li>Single “point database” </li></ul><ul><li>Visualization is clumsy </li></ul><ul><li>Can’t load multiple files </li></ul><ul><li>Requires special LD commands </li></ul><ul><li>Limited tools - .P, .G, .N </li></ul><ul><li>Points: </li></ul>Land Desktop Land Desktop
    37. 37. <ul><li>Points: </li></ul><ul><li>Not dependent on database </li></ul><ul><li>Visualization is effortless </li></ul><ul><li>Load multiple ASCII files simultaneously </li></ul><ul><li>Use standard AutoCAD commands </li></ul><ul><li>Transparent commands </li></ul><ul><li>LandXML </li></ul>Civil 3D Civil 3D
    38. 38. <ul><li>Invisible when created </li></ul><ul><li>Edits are not immediate </li></ul><ul><li>Visualization is cumbersome </li></ul><ul><li>“ From Contours” requires manual edits </li></ul><ul><li>Unfriendly “Undo” results </li></ul><ul><li>Surfaces: </li></ul>Land Desktop Land Desktop
    39. 39. <ul><li>Surfaces: </li></ul><ul><li>Surface available immediately </li></ul><ul><li>Dynamic – Edits automatically update contours </li></ul><ul><li>Maximum triangle length </li></ul><ul><li>Improved surface from contours </li></ul><ul><li>Undo not an issue </li></ul><ul><li>Flexible edit history </li></ul><ul><li>LandXML </li></ul>Civil 3D Civil 3D
    40. 40. <ul><li>Difficult to ensure “accurate” geometry </li></ul><ul><li>Can’t reverse Alignment direction </li></ul><ul><li>Can’t move Alignment </li></ul><ul><li>Alignment editing is difficult </li></ul><ul><li>Cannot rename Alignment </li></ul><ul><li>Limited creation options </li></ul><ul><li>Alignments: </li></ul>Land Desktop Land Desktop
    41. 41. <ul><li>Alignments: </li></ul><ul><li>“ Accurate” geometry is automatic </li></ul><ul><li>Easily reverse Alignment direction </li></ul><ul><li>Automatic station labeling </li></ul><ul><li>Dynamic / Flexible editing </li></ul><ul><li>Criteria based design </li></ul><ul><li>Complex geometry supported </li></ul><ul><li>Import from Land Desktop </li></ul><ul><li>LandXML </li></ul>Civil 3D Civil 3D
    42. 42. <ul><li>“ Field to Finish” is not flexible </li></ul><ul><li>Figure editing limited </li></ul><ul><li>Not very intuitive </li></ul><ul><li>Instrument support is dated </li></ul><ul><li>Transforming data is difficult </li></ul><ul><li>Survey Data unprotected </li></ul><ul><li>.FBK is required </li></ul><ul><li>Survey: </li></ul>Land Desktop Land Desktop
    43. 43. <ul><li>Survey: </li></ul><ul><li>“ Field to Finish” very flexible </li></ul><ul><li>Enhanced Figure editing </li></ul><ul><li>Intuitive “Import Event” </li></ul><ul><li>Vendor support – Trimble Link… </li></ul><ul><li>Transforming data automatically </li></ul><ul><li>Survey Data protected </li></ul><ul><li>Linework from ASCII, .FBK, LandXML or .DWG Points </li></ul>Civil 3D Civil 3D
    44. 44. <ul><li>Multi-Step process </li></ul><ul><li>Renumbering is a nightmare </li></ul><ul><li>Cannot easily edit Parcel lines </li></ul><ul><li>Parcel Manager is “Cludgy” </li></ul><ul><li>Automatic tools are not intuitive </li></ul><ul><li>Limited creation options </li></ul><ul><li>Parcels: </li></ul>Land Desktop Land Desktop
    45. 45. <ul><li>Parcels: </li></ul><ul><li>Numerous sizing options </li></ul><ul><li>Renumbering is automatic </li></ul><ul><li>Dynamic Parcel lines </li></ul><ul><li>Import from Land Desktop </li></ul><ul><li>Ability to review before creation </li></ul><ul><li>Streamlined workflow </li></ul><ul><li>LandXML </li></ul>Civil 3D Civil 3D
    46. 46. <ul><li>Numerous steps to complete </li></ul><ul><li>Time consuming process </li></ul><ul><li>Additional Tools required for analysis </li></ul><ul><li>Earthwork sub areas are difficult </li></ul><ul><li>Computing stage storage difficult </li></ul><ul><li>Earthwork: </li></ul>Land Desktop Land Desktop
    47. 47. <ul><li>Earthwork: </li></ul><ul><li>Intuitive workflow – 3 “clicks” </li></ul><ul><li>Easy import from Land Desktop </li></ul><ul><li>Analysis is a display option </li></ul><ul><li>Sub area calculation easy </li></ul><ul><li>Stage storage extension </li></ul><ul><li>Improved report </li></ul><ul><li>Dynamic updates </li></ul>Civil 3D Civil 3D
    48. 48. <ul><li>Current Surface setting </li></ul><ul><li>Current Alignment setting </li></ul><ul><li>Not very intuitive </li></ul><ul><li>Results not dynamic </li></ul><ul><li>Delete previous Layers </li></ul><ul><li>Display not flexible </li></ul><ul><li>Existing Profiles: </li></ul>Land Desktop Land Desktop
    49. 49. <ul><li>Existing Profiles: </li></ul><ul><li>“ Current” settings not required </li></ul><ul><li>One simple dialog </li></ul><ul><li>Tooltips / Graphics </li></ul><ul><li>Alignment related to Profile </li></ul><ul><li>NO delete & redraw </li></ul><ul><li>Visualization very flexible </li></ul>Civil 3D Civil 3D
    50. 50. <ul><li>Cryptic interface </li></ul><ul><li>“ Grade Out” – No “Grade In” </li></ul><ul><li>Layer dependent / PFGC </li></ul><ul><li>Limited design tools </li></ul><ul><li>Old software routines </li></ul><ul><li>Manual entry cumbersome </li></ul><ul><li>Proposed Profiles: </li></ul>Land Desktop Land Desktop
    51. 51. <ul><li>Proposed Profiles: </li></ul><ul><li>Consistent interface </li></ul><ul><li>PVI locking </li></ul><ul><li>Intuitive process </li></ul><ul><li>Criteria based design </li></ul><ul><li>Best-Fit options </li></ul><ul><li>Create complex design quickly </li></ul>Civil 3D Civil 3D
    52. 52. <ul><li>Feature not available </li></ul><ul><li>Manual process </li></ul><ul><li>Colored markers on paper prints </li></ul><ul><li>Quantity Take Off: </li></ul>Land Desktop Land Desktop
    53. 53. <ul><li>Quantity Take Off: </li></ul><ul><li>Import pay item list – CSV, XML </li></ul><ul><li>Assign pay item to area or object </li></ul><ul><li>Generate reports </li></ul>Civil 3D Civil 3D
    54. 54. <ul><li>Feature not available </li></ul><ul><li>Manual process </li></ul><ul><li>Google Earth: </li></ul>Land Desktop Land Desktop
    55. 55. <ul><li>Google Earth: </li></ul><ul><li>Wizard interface </li></ul><ul><li>Import surface images </li></ul><ul><li>Import terrain data </li></ul><ul><li>Publish Model Space geometry to Google Earth </li></ul>Civil 3D Civil 3D

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