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  1. 1. 1 Tailwinds and Drag: A practical guide to growth
  2. 2. 2 “I have di ffi culty sometimes talking to people who don't race sailboats.” Bruno Gianelli, West Wing
  3. 3. 3
  4. 4. 4
  5. 5. 5 Dying Thriving
  6. 6. 6 Grow
  7. 7. 7 Grow Run
  8. 8. 8 Grow Run
  9. 9. 9 Grow Run
  10. 10. 10 Grow Run
  11. 11. 11 Acquisition Monetization Expansion Grow Run
  12. 12. 12 Acquisition Monetization Expansion Churn Ops/Finance Team Run Grow
  13. 13. 13 “PC, I’m awesome. My business is amazing. Why should I care?”
  14. 14. 14 All markets are rapidly increasing in density and di ffi culty.
  15. 15. 15 Growth is harder than ever
  16. 16. 16 Growth is harder than ever Competitors 15.8x
  17. 17. 17 Growth is harder than ever Competitors CAC 15.8x +128%
  18. 18. 18 Growth is harder than ever Competitors CAC Team Tenure 15.8x +128% -34%
  19. 19. 19 Growth is harder than ever Competitors CAC Team Tenure Tech Wages 15.8x +128% -34% +27%
  20. 20. 20 Tactical excellence is now just the entry fee for a chance at rapid growth.
  21. 21. 21 Sound good?
  22. 22. 22 “Cute. Who are you preachy, bearded man?”
  23. 23. 23 We exist to run and grow subscription companies, automatically.
  24. 24. You’ll be in good company. 20% of the market uses Pro fi tWell
  25. 25. COMPANY NAME $1,240,578 TOTAL MRR LTV RECOVERY Emma Young UPGRADED $200 Kyle Turner REACTIVATED $200 $5,678 Drastically reduce churn Retain™ Audit proof revenue recognition Recognized Proprietary pricing software and services for monetization Price Intelligently Unit Economics Churn Insights In-App Usage Data Financial Data Survey Data
  26. 26. 26
  27. 27. 27 Ok. Let’s jump in.
  28. 28. 28 Acquisition Monetization Expansion Grow Run
  29. 29. 29 Acquiring customers: “Distribution is harder than ever”
  30. 30. 30 Let’s talk buyer personas.
  31. 31. 31 Buyers are the central tenet of your business POINT OF CONVERSION DRIVE CUSTOMERS OFFER PRODUCT A JUSTIFY PRICE A OFFER PRODUCT B JUSTIFY PRICE B OFFER PRODUCT C JUSTIFY PRICE C $ $ $
  32. 32. 32 Buyers are the central tenet of your business POINT OF CONVERSION DRIVE CUSTOMERS OFFER PRODUCT A JUSTIFY PRICE A OFFER PRODUCT B JUSTIFY PRICE B OFFER PRODUCT C JUSTIFY PRICE C $ $ $
  33. 33. 33 “PC…YAWN…I heard this in my startups 101 class.”
  34. 34. 34 Only 1 in 5 companies have personas of some kind.
  35. 35. 35 Maybe you don’t know the impact?
  36. 36. 36 DATA ON LTV
  37. 37. 37 DATA ON CAC
  38. 38. 38 DATA ON NPS X X X X
  39. 39. 39 Everything is better.
  40. 40. 40 Let me make it easy.
  41. 41. 41 Minimum Viable Personas
  42. 42. 42 Fill this out individually. Review as an exec team. Debate something.
  43. 43. 43 Fill this out individually. Review as an exec team. Debate something.
  44. 44. 44 Fill this out individually. Review as an exec team. Debate something.
  45. 45. 45 Bonus: If the solution to the debate is ego, fi nd another team.
  46. 46. 46 Life’s too short to work with people who don’t want to win.
  47. 47. 47 Let’s talk freemium and inbound media.
  48. 48. 48 AE Takes Over Point of Conversion Opp The Demand Gen Continuum
  49. 49. 49 AE Takes Over Point of Conversion Opp Demo/Audit Request The Demand Gen Continuum
  50. 50. 50 AE Takes Over Point of Conversion Opp Demo/Audit Request DL Ebook Reading on churn/pricing The Demand Gen Continuum
  51. 51. 51 AE Takes Over Point of Conversion Opp Demo/Audit Request DL Ebook Bombora on Pricing G2 Crowd Upvoted PH Reading on churn/pricing The Demand Gen Continuum
  52. 52. 52 AE Takes Over Point of Conversion Opp Demo/Audit Request DL Ebook Bombora on Pricing G2 Crowd Upvoted PH CEO wants to grow PM at target ARPU company CX Mgr tweeting about credit cards Reading on churn/pricing The Demand Gen Continuum
  53. 53. 53 AE Takes Over Point of Conversion Opp Demo/Audit Request DL Ebook Bombora on Pricing G2 Crowd Upvoted PH CEO wants to grow PM at target ARPU company CX Mgr tweeting about credit cards Reading on churn/pricing The Demand Gen Continuum How fast can we make the river?
  54. 54. 54 AE Takes Over Point of Conversion Opp Demo/Audit Request DL Ebook Bombora on Pricing G2 Crowd Upvoted PH CEO wants to grow PM at target ARPU company CX Mgr tweeting about credit cards Reading on churn/pricing The Demand Gen Continuum TOFU MOFU BOFU
  55. 55. 55 AE Takes Over Point of Conversion Opp Demo/Audit Request DL Ebook Bombora on Pricing G2 Crowd Upvoted PH CEO wants to grow PM at target ARPU company CX Mgr tweeting about credit cards Reading on churn/pricing The Demand Gen Continuum All of the money goes here
  56. 56. 56 AE Takes Over Point of Conversion Opp Demo/Audit Request DL Ebook Bombora on Pricing G2 Crowd Upvoted PH CEO wants to grow PM at target ARPU company CX Mgr tweeting about credit cards Reading on churn/pricing The Demand Gen Continuum Diminishing in effectiveness
  57. 57. 57 AE Takes Over Point of Conversion Opp Demo/Audit Request DL Ebook Bombora on Pricing G2 Crowd Upvoted PH CEO wants to grow PM at target ARPU company CX Mgr tweeting about credit cards Reading on churn/pricing The Demand Gen Continuum “What if we just made this bigger?”
  58. 58. 58 Freemium.
  59. 59. 59 “If the product is free, then you’re the product.”
  60. 60. 60 “Ummm if people saw value, they’d pay for it.”
  61. 61. 61 Maybe you should evolve your thinking past 2007?
  62. 62. 62 Freemium is an acquisition model not a revenue model.
  63. 63. 63 AE Takes Over Point of Conversion Opp Demo/Audit Request DL Ebook Bombora on Pricing G2 Crowd Upvoted PH CEO wants to grow PM at target ARPU company CX Mgr tweeting about credit cards Reading on churn/pricing The Demand Gen Continuum Freemium Traditional Inbound
  64. 64. 64 You own the right to nurture a lead over time.
  65. 65. 65 GRAPH ON CAC
  66. 66. 66 GRAPH ON LTV
  67. 67. 67 GRAPH ON NPS
  68. 68. 68 Two Types of Free Forever Free • Upsell through cross-sell • Lead or data network e ff ect • Bigger pool, but bigger $$$
  69. 69. 69 Two Types of Free Forever Free • Upsell through cross-sell • Lead or data network e ff ect • Bigger pool, but bigger $$$ Faux Free Trial • Upsell premium version • Sometimes no network e ff ect • Smaller pool, but less $$$
  70. 70. 70 Do you know how to convert leads to customers? Is your funnel river fl owing faster and wider over time?
  71. 71. 71 Do you know how to convert leads to customers? Is your funnel river fl owing faster and wider over time?
  72. 72. 72 Inbound Media.
  73. 73. 73
  74. 74. 74 “We publish ebooks. We’re good here.”
  75. 75. 75 AE Takes Over Point of Conversion Opp Demo/Audit Request DL Ebook Bombora on Pricing G2 Crowd Upvoted PH CEO wants to grow PM at target ARPU company CX Mgr tweeting about credit cards Reading on churn/pricing The Demand Gen Continuum Only provide signal to get someone from here to there
  76. 76. 76 Build audience not lead volume.
  77. 77. 77 Inbound Media Offer Audience Social Blog Email Paid Inbound Marketing Wheel
  78. 78. 78 AE Takes Over Point of Conversion Opp Demo/Audit Request DL Ebook Bombora on Pricing G2 Crowd Upvoted PH CEO wants to grow PM at target ARPU company CX Mgr tweeting about credit cards Reading on churn/pricing The Demand Gen Continuum Freemium Traditional Inbound Inbound Media
  79. 79. 79 Inbound Media Media Strategy Inbound Strategy Time Leads Time Leads Show 1 Show 2 Show 3
  80. 80. 80 Inbound Media MON SHOW A TUE SHOW B WED SHOW C THU SHOW C FRI SHOW C SAT SHOW C SUN SHOW C X X X X X X X X X X X X X X Multiple Shows Increases Touchpoints
  81. 81. 81 Inbound Media Media Strategy Inbound Strategy Cost of Offer $10.4k per ebook Under $10k per season Cost of Offer
  82. 82. 82 Inbound Media Media Strategy Inbound Strategy Cost of Offer $10.4k per ebook Under $10k per season Cost of Offer Touchpoints Expected 1.4 per week Touchpoints Expected Over 3 per week
  83. 83. 83 Path 1: Start a podcast interviewing customers and target customers.
  84. 84. 84 Path 2: Turn each blog post Into a video.
  85. 85. 85 “Can’t wait to go viral”
  86. 86. 86 Monetizing and Expanding customers: “Pricing is important”
  87. 87. 87 $idk*/month Awesome feature Feature built last night Thing not built yet This’ll never get built Livechat support Pricing Evolution *I googled some pricing pages and read a DHH rant and settled on $50/month or $100/month, but I’ll put it at $49 or $99, because I heard that gets people to buy more.
  88. 88. 88 Buyers are the central tenet of your business POINT OF CONVERSION DRIVE CUSTOMERS OFFER PRODUCT A JUSTIFY PRICE A OFFER PRODUCT B JUSTIFY PRICE B OFFER PRODUCT C JUSTIFY PRICE C $ $ $
  89. 89. 89 $better/month Awesome feature $good/month Awesome feature X X X X $best/month Awesome feature X X X X X X X X Integration Integration SSO Pricing Evolution
  90. 90. 90 $better/month Awesome feature $good/month Awesome feature X X X X $best/month Awesome feature X X X X X X X X Integration Integration SSO Pricing Evolution ENTERPRISE Contact Us →
  91. 91. 91 $499/month For those with an X team $99/month For this just starting with X X X X X $999/month Pros at X X X X X X X X X Actual special features only this group would need. Special features Enterprise Things Pricing Evolution ENTERPRISE Contact Us →
  92. 92. 92 Pricing Evolution $499 X $99 X X X X X $999 X X X X X X X X X X X ENTERPRISE Contact Us → X $X/ X X X X $XX/month X X X X $XX/month X X X X $X/month X X X X $XXX/month X X X X Shadow tiers
  93. 93. 93 $499/month $99/month Up to 500 per month X X X $999/month Up to 1k per month X X X 5k per month (.01 per after that) X X X Pricing Evolution ENTERPRISE Contact Us → X X X
  94. 94. 94 GRAPH ON VALUE METRICS GROWTH
  95. 95. 95 GRAPH ON VALUE METRICS CHURN
  96. 96. 96 GRAPH ON VALUE METRICS EXPANSION
  97. 97. 97 Setting your value metric What is the perfect measure of value? $ made through HubSpot
  98. 98. 98 Setting your value metric What is the perfect measure of value? What are 5-10 proxies for that value? $ made through HubSpot • # of Contacts • # of Visits • # of webpages • # of users • # of features
  99. 99. 99 Setting your value metric What is the perfect measure of value? What are 5-10 proxies for that value? What do customers and our data prefer? $ made through HubSpot • # of Contacts • # of Visits • # of webpages • # of users • # of features Most preferred? Least preferred? Histogram analysis
  100. 100. 100 Pricing Evolution $499 X $99 X X X X X $999 X X X X X X X X X X X ENTERPRISE Contact Us → X $X/ X X X X $XX/month X X X X $XX/month X X X X $X/month X X X X $XXX/month X X X X $XXX/month X X X X Add-on: $XX/month Add-on: $X/month Add-on: $X/month Add-on: $XXX/month Add-on: $XXX/month Add-on: $XX/month
  101. 101. 101 Customers with add-ons see 18-54% higher lifetime value.
  102. 102. !50 X !25 X X X X X !100 X X X X X X X X X X X ENTERPRISE Contact Us → X kr999 X kr499 X X X X X kr5k X X X X X X X X X X X ENTERPRISE Contact Us → X £325 X £199 X X X X X £2k X X X X X X X X X X X ENTERPRISE Contact Us → X $499 X $99 X X X X X $999 X X X X X X X X X X X ENTERPRISE Contact Us → X 102 Pricing Evolution
  103. 103. 103 DATA ON LOCALIZATION
  104. 104. 104 “Customers will never like these changes”
  105. 105. 105 Changing Pricing: Principles and a Practical Guide ๏ Don’t “legacy” your existing customers
  106. 106. 106 Do your research.
  107. 107. 107 Your pricing process needs to be data driven DATA DRIVEN PRICING QUANTIFIED BUYER PERSONAS PRICING STRATEGY DATA COLLECTION & SEGMENTATION ANALYSIS & DECISIONS EXPERIMENTAL DESIGN Basic Statistical Models
  108. 108. 108 Do an impact analysis.
  109. 109. 109 Changing Pricing: Principles and a Practical Guide ๏ Don’t “legacy” your existing customers ๏ People with +50% or more get a phone call or personalized message
  110. 110. 110 Proper messaging is key.
  111. 111. 111 “Over the past 12 months we’ve added so much value to Pro fi tWell: - We’ve made you $18,418 - Feature A is now standard in your account - Feature B is awesome, and you use it daily”
  112. 112. 112 “Over the past 12 months we’ve added so much value to Pro fi tWell: - We’ve made you $18,418 - Feature A is now standard in your account - Feature B is awesome, and you use it daily” For us to continue to invest in making Pro fi tWell better for you and the COMPANY crew, we need to increase our prices.
  113. 113. 113 “Over the past 12 months we’ve added so much value to Pro fi tWell: - We’ve made you $18,418 - Feature A is now standard in your account - Feature B is awesome, and you use it daily” For us to continue to invest in making Pro fi tWell better for you and the COMPANY crew, we need to increase our prices. You’ve been insanely loyal to Pro fi tWell though, using us for the last four and a half years, so as of today we’re raising prices on new customers, but since you’ve been so loyal we’re going to keep you on your existing plan for the next 6 months (after which we’ll bump you up to the new price of $XXXX).
  114. 114. 114 “Over the past 12 months we’ve added so much value to Pro fi tWell: - We’ve made you $18,418 - Feature A is now standard in your account - Feature B is awesome, and you use it daily” For us to continue to invest in making Pro fi tWell better for you and the COMPANY crew, we need to increase our prices. You’ve been insanely loyal to Pro fi tWell though, using us for the last four and a half years, so as of today we’re raising prices on new customers, but since you’ve been so loyal we’re going to keep you on your existing plan for the next 6 months (after which we’ll bump you up to the new price of $XXXX). Thanks for letting us be a part of COMPANY’s mission. If you have any questions at all, let me know. All replies go directly to me.
  115. 115. 115 P.S. If this materially impacts your business, let me know and we’ll work something out
  116. 116. 116 Changing Pricing: Principles and a Practical Guide ๏ Don’t “legacy” your existing customers ๏ People with +50% or more get a phone call or personalized message ๏ Focus on them, not you ๏ Legacy discount ftw
  117. 117. 117 Pricing is not hard. It’s a process.
  118. 118. 118 Acquisition Monetization Expansion Churn Ops/Finance Team Run Grow
  119. 119. 119 Churn: “If it was valuable enough, they’d stick around.”
  120. 120. 120 Value is not binary.
  121. 121. 121 Advocates Critics Point of cancellation
  122. 122. 122 Advocates Strategic Retention Critics Point of cancellation
  123. 123. 123 Advocates Point of cancellation Strategic Retention Critics Tactical Retention Zone
  124. 124. 124 Advocates Point of cancellation Strategic Retention Critics Tactical Retention Zone 60-75% 25-40%!!!
  125. 125. 125 Optimize your term length.
  126. 126. 126 Longer term plans have 200-800% higher lifetime value.
  127. 127. 127 You need to ask beyond the initial sign up.
  128. 128. 128 Subject: Discount on your WHOOP subscription Hey Hiro, wanted to let you know that there’s a way to save money on your WHOOP subscription. We’re giving those members who’ve been with us a while 2 months free if they sign up for our annual plan ($240). Click here to easily get on the annual plan and we’ll take care of the rest. — Johanna Timms Member Success Get 2 months free by switching to an annual plan for $240.00/year. Questions? Contact Us CANCEL CONFIRM Upgrade your subscription DISMISS UPGRADE PLAN Get 2 free months of WHOOP by upgrading to annual ($240.00).
  129. 129. 129 Implement cancellation fl ows.
  130. 130. 130 • Add friction • Redo the fl ow Why? Want to leave • Catalog to automate • Predict future churn
  131. 131. 131
  132. 132. 132 • Add friction • Redo the fl ow Why? Want to leave “I can put you on the $XXX plan for 90 days” Salvage Offer Maintenance Pause Freemium Tier “Put you on plan for $XX to ensure your data is here when you’re back” “Pause your plan for 90 days until this blows over” “We’ll bump you down to our free tier for now” Play Chicken “We’ll be here for whenever you want to get started again” • Catalog to automate • Predict future churn
  133. 133. 133
  134. 134. 134
  135. 135. 135 You will lower your cancellations by 10%-25% with cancellation fl ows.
  136. 136. 136
  137. 137. 137 Check your payment failures.
  138. 138. 138 Payment failures are the single largest bucket of lost customers.
  139. 139. 139 CREDIT CARD BENCHMARKS 20-40% of lost customers in B2B/DTC Delinquent churn accounts for 20-40% of overall churn in B2B and appears to grow signi fi cantly as a proportion of total churn as a company becomes larger. The recovery rate on this churn is less than 20%. % OF TOTAL CANCELLATIONS SOURCE: 2020 STUDY ON PAYMENT FAILURES 0% 25% 50% 75% 100% Less than $5M ARR $5.01 to $10M ARR $10.01 to $50M ARR $50.01M+ ARR 61.0% 68.1% 72.0% 78.1% 39.0% 31.9% 28.0% 21.9% Delinquent Churn Active Churn N 1.4k ANNUAL REVENUE OF COMPANY
  140. 140. 140 Most companies can double their recovery rates.
  141. 141. COMPANY NAME Towards the end and beyond the point of failure, Retain will lock out a delinquent user, allowing for a long tail of recovery. TACTICAL RETRIES NO SIGN-IN NEEDED FORMS LOCKOUT EMAIL, WEB-APP, & SMS POINT OF FAILURE +5% Utilizing historical and usage data, Retain monitors when the best time is to ask for an updated credit card from an expiring user. +5% Retain scans card & usage metadata and delivers notifications and emails to recover trial customers with failed payments. +10% Retain retries a customer's credit card when there's the highest chance of recovery. +40% Message copy greatly influences recovery. Retain is constantly adjusting timing and content of notifications to optimize recovery. SMS included for free. +15% Retain reduces friction immensely by not requiring a user to login to update their payment information. Apple and Google Pay included for free. +15% Retain’s targeted approach EXPIRATION TRACKING TRIAL RECOVERY
  142. 142. 142 Operations and Finance: “What do they do again?”
  143. 143. 143 You should invest as soon as possible.
  144. 144. 144 Taxes will creep up on you.
  145. 145. 145 People: “Mo’ people, Mo’ problems”
  146. 146. 146 “People and culture are everything 🤔”
  147. 147. 147 Then why is the average tenure of a manager 17.2 months?
  148. 148. 148 Avg Director on up tenure is only 22.3 months.
  149. 149. 149 These people defend your culture, but they aren’t sticking around that much.
  150. 150. 150 Why?
  151. 151. 151 We’re scared of losing people.
  152. 152. 152 We don’t de fi ne who we’re for, nor hire and fi re based on these values.
  153. 153. 153 Pro fi tWell believed in “giving the most charitable interpretation”.
  154. 154. 154 Integrity with con fl ict. Exec Talk Directly Talk Directly Manager Alt Manager HR Con fl ict MCI
  155. 155. 155 Integrity with con fl ict. “God Forbid” Things Exec Talk Directly Talk Directly Manager Alt Manager HR Con fl ict MCI
  156. 156. 156 What happens if this is hard for someone?
  157. 157. 157 We’re not great for them.
  158. 158. 158 We also hired poorly.
  159. 159. 159 Make sure you de fi ne it.
  160. 160. Chaos “What even is the vision?”
  161. 161. 161 Alignment is everything.
  162. 162. 162 Our Mission
  163. 163. 163 Our Mission
  164. 164. 164 Our Mission
  165. 165. 165 Our Mission
  166. 166. 166 Of course, this isn’t reality.
  167. 167. 167 Our Mission
  168. 168. 168 Our Mission
  169. 169. 169 How do we generally move people in the same direction?
  170. 170. 170 Paddle’s Mission
  171. 171. 171 Mission We exist to grow subscription revenue automatically Core Metric: Subscription Revenue on PW
  172. 172. 172 Mission We exist to grow subscription revenue automatically Core Metric: Subscription Revenue on PW Sales Support Product Engineering Marketing Guiding Principle 2 Guiding Principle 1 What
  173. 173. 173 Mission We exist to grow subscription revenue automatically Core Metric: Subscription Revenue on PW Sales Support Product Engineering Marketing Be the most helpful brand in SaaS Do it for you What
  174. 174. 174 Mission We exist to grow subscription revenue automatically Core Metric: Subscription Revenue on PW Sales Support Product Engineering Marketing “Recur Media” 1. Audience Growth 2. Field Guides 3. Director Level Content Be the most helpful brand in SaaS Do it for you How
  175. 175. 175 Mission We exist to grow subscription revenue automatically Core Metric: Subscription Revenue on PW Sales Support Product Engineering Marketing “Recur Media” 1. Audience Growth 2. Field Guides 3. Director Level Content Process Metrics Feedback Cycle Tempo Be the most helpful brand in SaaS Do it for you How
  176. 176. 176 Mission We exist to grow subscription revenue automatically Core Metric: Subscription Revenue on PW Sales Support Product Engineering Marketing “Recur Media” 1. Audience Growth 2. Field Guides 3. Director Level Content Process Metrics Feedback Cycle ๏ 6 shows per year ๏ 1 product launch a month ๏ 1 brand video per month ๏ SEO to the max Tempo Be the most helpful brand in SaaS Do it for you How Much
  177. 177. 177 Mission We exist to grow subscription revenue automatically Core Metric: Subscription Revenue on PW Sales Support Product Engineering Marketing “Recur Media” 1. Audience Growth 2. Field Guides 3. Director Level Content Process Metrics Feedback Cycle ๏ 6 shows per year ๏ 1 product launch a month ๏ 1 brand video per month ๏ SEO to the max Tempo Be the most helpful brand in SaaS Do it for you What How How Much
  178. 178. 178 Alignment is how high performing teams become a high performing company.
  179. 179. 179 Enough? Everyone get value?
  180. 180. 180 Acquisition Monetization Expansion Churn Ops/Finance Team Run Grow
  181. 181. 181 You need to cuddle with the chaos.
  182. 182. 182 Questions? @Patticus on Twitter pc@patticus.com

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