Christian, Were You Baptized with the Holy Spirit? Part One The Spiritual Enrichment Conference September 24, 2011 David H...
<ul><li>My  primary   goals  in this class: </li></ul><ul><li>•   to provide you with information </li></ul><ul><li>•   to...
“ Now all the Athenians . . . spent their time in nothing except telling or hearing something new”   Acts 17:21 Today in p...
Christian, were you baptized in the Holy Spirit? Does this idea sound “ new ” to you?  If it does, then you should know th...
Four Views of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit <ul><li>( 1 ) Catholic View </li></ul>
( 1 ) Catholic View <ul><li>Baptism  Christian </li></ul><ul><li>in the  =   baptism </li></ul><ul><li>Holy Spirit  with w...
Four Views of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit <ul><li>( 1 ) Catholic View </li></ul><ul><li>( 2 ) Protestant View </li></ul>
( 2 ) Protestant View <ul><li>Baptism  Saving Experience </li></ul><ul><li>in the  =   before </li></ul><ul><li>Holy Spiri...
( 2 ) Protestant View <ul><li>James D[ouglas] G[rant] Dunn ( 1939 –  ),  Baptism in the Holy Spirit  (publ. in 1970):  A r...
Four Views of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit <ul><li>( 1 ) Catholic View </li></ul><ul><li>( 2 ) Protestant View </li></ul...
( 3 ) Pentecostal View <ul><li>Baptism  An ecstatic </li></ul><ul><li>in the  =   experience </li></ul><ul><li>Holy Spirit...
Four Views of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit <ul><li>( 1 ) Catholic View </li></ul><ul><li>( 2 ) Protestant View </li></ul...
( 4 ) Churches-of-Christ View <ul><li>Baptism  a special </li></ul><ul><li>in the  =   miraculous </li></ul><ul><li>Holy S...
Four Views of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit <ul><li>( 1 ) Catholic View </li></ul><ul><li>( 2 ) Protestant View </li></ul...
Four Views of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit <ul><li>( 1 ) Catholic View </li></ul><ul><li>( 2 ) Protestant View </li></ul...
Eph 4:3–6 <ul><li>“ 3 Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace.  4 There is one body an...
Only Two Views Are Possible <ul><li>( 1 ) Catholic View </li></ul><ul><li>(2) Protestant View </li></ul><ul><li>(3) Pentec...
Both Views Have a History in the Restoration Movement <ul><li>( 1 ) Catholic View </li></ul><ul><li>( 2 ) Churches-of-Chri...
Both Views Have a History in the Restoration Movement <ul><li>( 1 ) Catholic View </li></ul><ul><li>( 2 )  Churches-of-Chr...
The Traditional View <ul><li>John W. McGarvey   James Challen </li></ul><ul><li>(1829–1911)  (1802–1878) </li></ul>
The Traditional View <ul><li>John W. McGarvey </li></ul><ul><li>(1829–1911) </li></ul>In  1863 , McGarvey published  A Com...
The Traditional View <ul><li>James Challen </li></ul><ul><li>(1802–1878) </li></ul>Four years before, in  1859 , Challen p...
The Traditional View <ul><li>The Baptism in the Holy Spirit predicted by John the Baptist (Acts 1:4–5 = Acts 2:1)  only  o...
Luke 24:45–49 <ul><li>“ 45 Then He [i.e. Jesus] opened their minds so they [i.e., the Apostles] could understand the Scrip...
Acts 1:4–8 <ul><li>“ 4 On one occasion, while He [i.e., Jesus] was eating with them [i.e., the Apostles], He gave them thi...
Acts 1:4–8  ( cont. ) <ul><li>“ . . .  7 He said to them:  ‘It is not for you to know the times or dates that the Father h...
Alexander Campbell (1788–1866) The Traditional View Long before either McGarvey or Challen published their view on the Bap...
The Traditional View In “Incidents on a Tour to Nashville, Tennessee, No. V ,” Millennial Harbinger  2, First Series (Febr...
The Traditional View <ul><li>Alexander Campbell </li></ul><ul><li>(1788–1866) </li></ul>Even six years earlier, in  1825 ,...
The Traditional View But the line seems to stop with Campbell in 1825.  I have not yet found any scholar or “Christian” wr...
An Alternative View <ul><li>Moses E. Lard </li></ul><ul><li>(1818–1880) </li></ul>In March of  1864 ,  Lard published an a...
 
 
An Alternative View <ul><li>According to Lard, </li></ul><ul><li>“ the baptism in the Holy Spirit” =  </li></ul><ul><li>“ ...
A debate ensued in  Lard’s Quarterly ! <ul><li>John W. McGarvey   Moses E. Lard </li></ul><ul><li>(1829–1911)  (1818–1880)...
Walter Scott (1796–1861) An Alternative View Exactly thirty-one years earlier, in  March 1833 , Walter Scott had espoused ...
“ Every one then, who receives the Spirit of Christ, is baptized in that Spirit according to the Scriptural, i.e. the figu...
the gift of the Spirit; see Acts 10th chap. the gift of the Spirit means no more than the Spirit itself just as the gift o...
The Catholic View <ul><li>Thomas Aquinas </li></ul><ul><li>(ca. 1225–1274) </li></ul>“ It seems that the three kinds of ba...
The Catholic View <ul><li>Thomas Aquinas </li></ul><ul><li>(ca. 1225–1274) </li></ul>“ . . . because the Apostle says ‘one...
The Catholic View <ul><li>Thomas Aquinas </li></ul><ul><li>(ca. 1225–1274) </li></ul>“ The other two baptisms are included...
The Catholic View <ul><li>Thomas Aquinas </li></ul><ul><li>(ca. 1225–1274) </li></ul>“ . . .  Consequently, for this reaso...
The Alternative View or the Catholic View Thomas Aquinas (ca. A.D. 1225–1274) Theophylact of Ohrid (A.D. 1055–1107) August...
The Alternative View or the Catholic View Origen (ca. A.D. 184–254) Hippolytus of Rome (A.D. 170–235) Tertullian (ca. A.D....
<ul><li>Justin Martyr </li></ul><ul><li>(ca. A.D.  103 – 165 ) </li></ul>“ What need, then, have I of circumcision, who ha...
<ul><li>Justin Martyr </li></ul><ul><li>(ca. A.D.  103 – 165 ) </li></ul>But what did Justin Martyr believe about baptism ...
<ul><li>Justin Martyr </li></ul><ul><li>(ca. A.D.  103 – 165 ) </li></ul>Yet they are  not  two separate baptisms, but the...
The Alternative View or the Catholic View Origen (ca. A.D. 184–254) Hippolytus of Rome (A.D. 170–235) Tertullian (ca. A.D....
Moses Lard and Walter Scott were not the only brethren who espoused this view. Dr. Robert Richardson (1806–1876) Robert Ri...
Moses Lard and Walter Scott were not the only brethren who espoused this view. As a personal friend and the biographer of ...
Moses Lard and Walter Scott were not the only brethren who espoused this view. Richard Rogers (XXXX–XXXX) Richard Rogers, ...
Moses Lard and Walter Scott were not the only brethren who espoused this view. Dr. Rick Oster (XXXX–  ) For over thirty ye...
Moses Lard and Walter Scott were not the only brethren who espoused this view. Dr. Rick Oster (XXXX–  ) When I was a gradu...
“ We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost” ( Acts 19:2   KJV). Were the twelve disciples at Ephesus h...
Aren’t they supposed to be disciples of John the Baptist? “ And Paul said, ‘Into what were you baptized?’ “ And they said,...
Didn’t John the Baptist teach his disciples about the Holy Spirit? “ I baptize you with water for repentance, but the One ...
Didn’t John the Baptist teach his disciples about the Holy Spirit? So  why  wouldn’t these twelve disciples of John the Ba...
These twelve disciples at Ephesus who knew only of the Baptism of John— Had they  never  read or heard about the first two...
“ 1 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the Earth. . . .   2 . . . , and the Spirit of God moved across the face...
Don’t other passages in the Old Testament speak about the Holy Spirit? “ Do not cast me from Your Presence or take Your Ho...
“ We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost” ( Acts 19:2   KJV). So  why  wouldn’t these twelve discipl...
So  how  likely  is it that these “disciples” had never even heard that there was a Holy Spirit?
Is it possible to understand  Acts 19:2  in a different sense? “ 2 and he said unto them, Did ye receive the Holy Spirit w...
Is it possible to understand  Acts 19:2  in a different sense? “ 2 and he said to them, ‘Did you receive the Holy Spirit w...
Same  Verb in Greek as in John 7:39 John 7:37–39 “ 37 On the last and greatest day of the Feast, Jesus stood and said in a...
Same  Verb in Greek as in John 7:39 John 7:37–39 cont. . . . whom those who believed in Him were later to receive.  For th...
A Form of the  Same  Verb in Greek John 7:39b “ For the Spirit  was  not yet  [ present  on Earth], since Jesus had not ye...
Is it possible to understand  Acts 19:2  in a different sense? “ 2 and he said unto them, Did ye receive the Holy Spirit w...
Is it possible to understand  Acts 19:2  in a different sense? “ 2 and he said to them, ‘Did you receive the Holy Spirit w...
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Were You Baptized in the Holy Spirit, Part One

  1. 1. Christian, Were You Baptized with the Holy Spirit? Part One The Spiritual Enrichment Conference September 24, 2011 David H. Warren
  2. 2. <ul><li>My primary goals in this class: </li></ul><ul><li>• to provide you with information </li></ul><ul><li>• to expand your understanding </li></ul><ul><li>• to get you to think and to rethink </li></ul><ul><li>• But I am not trying to change </li></ul><ul><li>your mind! </li></ul>Christian, were you baptized with the Holy Spirit?
  3. 3. “ Now all the Athenians . . . spent their time in nothing except telling or hearing something new” Acts 17:21 Today in preaching, I hear much that is new and much that is true. Unfortunately, that which is new is not true, and that which is true is not new.
  4. 4. Christian, were you baptized in the Holy Spirit? Does this idea sound “ new ” to you? If it does, then you should know that it really has the longest list of supporters that can clearly be traced back to the second century after Christ.
  5. 5. Four Views of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit <ul><li>( 1 ) Catholic View </li></ul>
  6. 6. ( 1 ) Catholic View <ul><li>Baptism Christian </li></ul><ul><li>in the = baptism </li></ul><ul><li>Holy Spirit with water </li></ul>
  7. 7. Four Views of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit <ul><li>( 1 ) Catholic View </li></ul><ul><li>( 2 ) Protestant View </li></ul>
  8. 8. ( 2 ) Protestant View <ul><li>Baptism Saving Experience </li></ul><ul><li>in the = before </li></ul><ul><li>Holy Spirit baptism in water </li></ul><ul><li>John Owen ( 1616 – 1683 ) </li></ul><ul><li>Martyn Lloyd-Jones ( 1899 – 1981 ) </li></ul><ul><li>James D. G. Dunn ( 1939 – ) </li></ul>
  9. 9. ( 2 ) Protestant View <ul><li>James D[ouglas] G[rant] Dunn ( 1939 – ), Baptism in the Holy Spirit (publ. in 1970): A revision of the author’s dissertation written in 1968; a person receives the Baptism of the Holy Spirit at the time of his or her conversion, and that this event precedes baptism in water (pp. 228–29). </li></ul>
  10. 10. Four Views of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit <ul><li>( 1 ) Catholic View </li></ul><ul><li>( 2 ) Protestant View </li></ul><ul><li>( 3 ) Pentecostal View </li></ul>
  11. 11. ( 3 ) Pentecostal View <ul><li>Baptism An ecstatic </li></ul><ul><li>in the = experience </li></ul><ul><li>Holy Spirit after salvation </li></ul><ul><li>evidenced by your speaking in tongues </li></ul><ul><li>Charles G. Finney and his “second blessing” in the 1830’s; Azusa St. </li></ul>
  12. 12. Four Views of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit <ul><li>( 1 ) Catholic View </li></ul><ul><li>( 2 ) Protestant View </li></ul><ul><li>( 3 ) Pentecostal View </li></ul><ul><li>( 4 ) Churches-of-Christ View </li></ul>
  13. 13. ( 4 ) Churches-of-Christ View <ul><li>Baptism a special </li></ul><ul><li>in the = miraculous </li></ul><ul><li>Holy Spirit empowering </li></ul><ul><li>This baptism only occurred twice : </li></ul><ul><li>( 1 ) the Apostles on Pentecost </li></ul><ul><li>( 2 ) Cornelius, family, & friends </li></ul>
  14. 14. Four Views of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit <ul><li>( 1 ) Catholic View </li></ul><ul><li>( 2 ) Protestant View </li></ul><ul><li>( 3 ) Pentecostal View </li></ul><ul><li>( 4 ) Churches-of-Christ View </li></ul>Views # 2 and # 3 require the existence of two baptisms.
  15. 15. Four Views of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit <ul><li>( 1 ) Catholic View </li></ul><ul><li>( 2 ) Protestant View </li></ul><ul><li>( 3 ) Pentecostal View </li></ul><ul><li>( 4 ) Churches-of-Christ View </li></ul>Hence, they are eliminated by Eph 4:5 , “one baptism.”
  16. 16. Eph 4:3–6 <ul><li>“ 3 Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace. 4 There is one body and one Spirit—just as you were called to one hope when you were called— 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, Who is over all and through all and in all.” </li></ul>
  17. 17. Only Two Views Are Possible <ul><li>( 1 ) Catholic View </li></ul><ul><li>(2) Protestant View </li></ul><ul><li>(3) Pentecostal View </li></ul><ul><li>( 4 ) Churches-of-Christ View </li></ul>– the two baptisms are really just one . – at first there were two baptisms, but then one of them ceased to be, leaving only the other
  18. 18. Both Views Have a History in the Restoration Movement <ul><li>( 1 ) Catholic View </li></ul><ul><li>( 2 ) Churches-of-Christ View </li></ul>
  19. 19. Both Views Have a History in the Restoration Movement <ul><li>( 1 ) Catholic View </li></ul><ul><li>( 2 ) Churches-of-Christ View is the </li></ul><ul><li>“ Traditional View ” for most of us. </li></ul>
  20. 20. The Traditional View <ul><li>John W. McGarvey James Challen </li></ul><ul><li>(1829–1911) (1802–1878) </li></ul>
  21. 21. The Traditional View <ul><li>John W. McGarvey </li></ul><ul><li>(1829–1911) </li></ul>In 1863 , McGarvey published A Commen-tary on Acts of Apostles .
  22. 22. The Traditional View <ul><li>James Challen </li></ul><ul><li>(1802–1878) </li></ul>Four years before, in 1859 , Challen published Baptism in the Holy Spirit and Fire .
  23. 23. The Traditional View <ul><li>The Baptism in the Holy Spirit predicted by John the Baptist (Acts 1:4–5 = Acts 2:1) only occurred twice : </li></ul><ul><li>( 1 ) T he Apostles at Pentecost in Acts 2 </li></ul><ul><li>( 2 ) Cornelius , his family, and his friends in Acts 10 </li></ul>
  24. 24. Luke 24:45–49 <ul><li>“ 45 Then He [i.e. Jesus] opened their minds so they [i.e., the Apostles] could understand the Scriptures. 46 He told them, ‘This is what is written: The Christ will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, 47 and repentance and forgiveness of sins will be preached in His Name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. 48 You are witnesses of these things. 49 I am going to send you what My Father has promised; but stay in the city until you have been clothed with power from on high .’ ” </li></ul>
  25. 25. Acts 1:4–8 <ul><li>“ 4 On one occasion, while He [i.e., Jesus] was eating with them [i.e., the Apostles], He gave them this command: ‘Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father which you have heard Me speak about. 5 For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.’ </li></ul><ul><li>6 And gathering around Him, they asked Him, ‘Lord, are You at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?’ . . . </li></ul>
  26. 26. Acts 1:4–8 ( cont. ) <ul><li>“ . . . 7 He said to them: ‘It is not for you to know the times or dates that the Father has set by His Own authority. 8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be My witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the Earth.” </li></ul>
  27. 27. Alexander Campbell (1788–1866) The Traditional View Long before either McGarvey or Challen published their view on the Baptism in the Holy Spirit, Alexander Camp-bell taught the very same understanding.
  28. 28. The Traditional View In “Incidents on a Tour to Nashville, Tennessee, No. V ,” Millennial Harbinger 2, First Series (February 2, 1831 ):54–63, Alexander Campbell mentions that he presented “a lecture” on “The Seven Baptisms,” in which he taught that the “Baptism in the Holy Spirit” only happened twice : ( 1 ) the Apostles on Pentecost and ( 2 ) Cornelius, his family, and his friends.
  29. 29. The Traditional View <ul><li>Alexander Campbell </li></ul><ul><li>(1788–1866) </li></ul>Even six years earlier, in 1825 , a younger Campbell proffers this same view “To the Society of Friends, Com-monly Called Quakers,” The Christian Baptist 3 (December 5, 1825).
  30. 30. The Traditional View But the line seems to stop with Campbell in 1825. I have not yet found any scholar or “Christian” writer before Campbell who takes this same view, namely that the Baptism in the Holy Spirit only occurred twice, the case of the Twelve Apostles on Pentecost and the case of Cornelius, his family, and friends.
  31. 31. An Alternative View <ul><li>Moses E. Lard </li></ul><ul><li>(1818–1880) </li></ul>In March of 1864 , Lard published an article entitl ed “ Baptism in On e Spirit into One Body” in Lard ’ s Quarterly .
  32. 34. An Alternative View <ul><li>According to Lard, </li></ul><ul><li>“ the baptism in the Holy Spirit” = </li></ul><ul><li>“ the Gift of the Holy Spirit” </li></ul><ul><li>or, in other words, “ the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit ” (non-miraculous)! </li></ul>
  33. 35. A debate ensued in Lard’s Quarterly ! <ul><li>John W. McGarvey Moses E. Lard </li></ul><ul><li>(1829–1911) (1818–1880) </li></ul>
  34. 36. Walter Scott (1796–1861) An Alternative View Exactly thirty-one years earlier, in March 1833 , Walter Scott had espoused the very same view as that proposed by Lard in March 1864.
  35. 37. “ Every one then, who receives the Spirit of Christ, is baptized in that Spirit according to the Scriptural, i.e. the figurative or metaphorical use of the word baptize; and what Walter Scott (1796–1861) is called the baptism, pouring, shedding, receiving, &c. of the spirit is also called the gift of the Spirit, and what is called the gift of the Spirit; remission and the sanctifica-tion, &c. of the Spirit is also called . . .
  36. 38. the gift of the Spirit; see Acts 10th chap. the gift of the Spirit means no more than the Spirit itself just as the gift of a loaf of bread means no more than a loaf of bread itself; and so, the receiving, sanctification, shedding, pouring, and baptism in, mean no more than the reception of the Spirit versed in different points of light.” Walter Scott, “The Holy Spirit: A Discourse,” The Evangelist 2 (March 4, 1833): 48.
  37. 39. The Catholic View <ul><li>Thomas Aquinas </li></ul><ul><li>(ca. 1225–1274) </li></ul>“ It seems that the three kinds of baptism are not fittingly described as Baptism of Water, of Blood, and of the Spirit, i.e. of the Holy Ghost . . .
  38. 40. The Catholic View <ul><li>Thomas Aquinas </li></ul><ul><li>(ca. 1225–1274) </li></ul>“ . . . because the Apostle says ‘one faith, one baptism’ (Eph 4:5). Now there is but one faith. Therefore, there should not be three baptisms” ( Summa theologica 3.66.11).
  39. 41. The Catholic View <ul><li>Thomas Aquinas </li></ul><ul><li>(ca. 1225–1274) </li></ul>“ The other two baptisms are included in the baptism of water, which derives its efficacy both from Christ’s Passion and from the Holy Ghost. . . .
  40. 42. The Catholic View <ul><li>Thomas Aquinas </li></ul><ul><li>(ca. 1225–1274) </li></ul>“ . . . Consequently, for this reason the unity of baptism is not destroyed” ( Summa theologica 3.66.11 Reply to Objection 1).
  41. 43. The Alternative View or the Catholic View Thomas Aquinas (ca. A.D. 1225–1274) Theophylact of Ohrid (A.D. 1055–1107) Augustine of Hippo (A.D. 354–430) Jerome (ca. A.D. 342–420) John Chrysostom (ca. A.D. 347–407) Ambrose of Milan (ca. A.D. 337–397)
  42. 44. The Alternative View or the Catholic View Origen (ca. A.D. 184–254) Hippolytus of Rome (A.D. 170–235) Tertullian (ca. A.D. 160–220) Clement of Alexandria (ca. A.D. 150–215) Justin Martyr (ca. A.D. 103–165)
  43. 45. <ul><li>Justin Martyr </li></ul><ul><li>(ca. A.D. 103 – 165 ) </li></ul>“ What need, then, have I of circumcision, who have been witnessed to by God? What need have I of that other baptism [i.e., Jewish proselyte baptism], who have been baptized with the Holy Ghost?” (Justin Martyr, Dialogue with Trypho 29.1).
  44. 46. <ul><li>Justin Martyr </li></ul><ul><li>(ca. A.D. 103 – 165 ) </li></ul>But what did Justin Martyr believe about baptism in water ? He taught that baptism in water was for “ the remission of sins formerly committed ” ( First Apology 61.10).
  45. 47. <ul><li>Justin Martyr </li></ul><ul><li>(ca. A.D. 103 – 165 ) </li></ul>Yet they are not two separate baptisms, but the same baptism. A single baptism. One baptism involving two distinct elements, water and the Spirit .
  46. 48. The Alternative View or the Catholic View Origen (ca. A.D. 184–254) Hippolytus of Rome (A.D. 170–235) Tertullian (ca. A.D. 160–220) Clement of Alexandria (ca. A.D. 150–215) Justin Martyr (ca. A.D. 103–165) This is just a partial listing.
  47. 49. Moses Lard and Walter Scott were not the only brethren who espoused this view. Dr. Robert Richardson (1806–1876) Robert Richardson, A Scriptural View of the Office of the Holy Spirit (publ. in XXXX)
  48. 50. Moses Lard and Walter Scott were not the only brethren who espoused this view. As a personal friend and the biographer of Alexander Campbell, Dr. Richardson must have known about Campbell’s own view on the Baptism in the Holy Spirit. They probably had conversations over it. Yet Dr. Richardson chose to follow the view of Moses Lard and Walter Scott in his book on the Holy Spirit!
  49. 51. Moses Lard and Walter Scott were not the only brethren who espoused this view. Richard Rogers (XXXX–XXXX) Richard Rogers, A Study of the Holy Spirit (publ. in XXXX)
  50. 52. Moses Lard and Walter Scott were not the only brethren who espoused this view. Dr. Rick Oster (XXXX– ) For over thirty years, Dr. Oster has taught the New Testament at the Harding School of Theology (formerly Harding Graduate School of Religion).
  51. 53. Moses Lard and Walter Scott were not the only brethren who espoused this view. Dr. Rick Oster (XXXX– ) When I was a graduate student there in 1980, Dr. Oster presented the view of Lard as the better under-standing of the baptism in the Holy Spirit.
  52. 54. “ We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost” ( Acts 19:2 KJV). Were the twelve disciples at Ephesus here really saying that they had never heard of the existence of the Holy Spirit?
  53. 55. Aren’t they supposed to be disciples of John the Baptist? “ And Paul said, ‘Into what were you baptized?’ “ And they said, ‘Into John’s baptism.’ ” Acts 19:3
  54. 56. Didn’t John the Baptist teach his disciples about the Holy Spirit? “ I baptize you with water for repentance, but the One Who comes after me is mightier than I, . . . He shall baptize you with the Holy Spirit.” Matt 3:11 ; Mark 1:7–8 ; Luke 3:16
  55. 57. Didn’t John the Baptist teach his disciples about the Holy Spirit? So why wouldn’t these twelve disciples of John the Baptist here at Ephesus not know about the existence of the Holy Spirit?
  56. 58. These twelve disciples at Ephesus who knew only of the Baptism of John— Had they never read or heard about the first two verses in the Bible?
  57. 59. “ 1 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the Earth. . . . 2 . . . , and the Spirit of God moved across the face of the waters.” Gen 1:1–2
  58. 60. Don’t other passages in the Old Testament speak about the Holy Spirit? “ Do not cast me from Your Presence or take Your Holy Spirit from me.” Ps 51:11
  59. 61. “ We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost” ( Acts 19:2 KJV). So why wouldn’t these twelve disciples of John the Baptist here at Ephesus not know about the existence of the Holy Spirit?
  60. 62. So how likely is it that these “disciples” had never even heard that there was a Holy Spirit?
  61. 63. Is it possible to understand Acts 19:2 in a different sense? “ 2 and he said unto them, Did ye receive the Holy Spirit when ye believed? And they said to him, Nay, we did not so much as hear whether the Holy Spirit was given .” (Text proper of the American Standard Bible of 1901)
  62. 64. Is it possible to understand Acts 19:2 in a different sense? “ 2 and he said to them, ‘Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?’ And they said to him, ‘No, we have not even heard whether the Holy Spirit has been given .’ ” (The footnote in New American Standard Bible of 1960)
  63. 65. Same Verb in Greek as in John 7:39 John 7:37–39 “ 37 On the last and greatest day of the Feast, Jesus stood and said in a loud voice, ‘If anyone is thirsty, let him come to me and drink. 38 Whoever believes in me, as the Scripture has said, streams of living water will flow from within him.’ 39 By this He meant the Spirit, . . .
  64. 66. Same Verb in Greek as in John 7:39 John 7:37–39 cont. . . . whom those who believed in Him were later to receive. For the Spirit had not yet been given [literally “the Spirit was not yet”], since Jesus had not yet been glorified.”
  65. 67. A Form of the Same Verb in Greek John 7:39b “ For the Spirit was not yet [ present on Earth], since Jesus had not yet been glorified.” Acts 19:2b “ No, we have not heard whether the Holy Spirit is [ present on Earth].”
  66. 68. Is it possible to understand Acts 19:2 in a different sense? “ 2 and he said unto them, Did ye receive the Holy Spirit when ye believed? And they said to him, Nay, we did not so much as hear whether the Holy Spirit was given .” (Text proper of the American Standard Bible of 1901)
  67. 69. Is it possible to understand Acts 19:2 in a different sense? “ 2 and he said to them, ‘Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?’ And they said to him, ‘No, we have not even heard whether the Holy Spirit has been given .’ ” (The footnote in New American Standard Bible of 1960)

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