Harry Wood     harry@cloudmade.com



              Community
             smoothness
Tags
Open tagging system
>50,000 tags in the database
“What tags should I use???”
“Map Features”
Agreed set of tags
Wiki
Easy editing
Open & inclusive
Discussion Mediation
Tagging debates
Different ways of thinking about mapping the world
Different understandings of words



                  ...
Smoothness
How smooth a road or footpath is
Suitability for transport types
smoothness=excellent
smoothness=good
smoothnes...
Poor use of English language
 Unprofessional
 Imprecise                very_horrible?




Subjective
 a subjective judgeme...
Discussion → Debate → Edit War
Discussion and refining
Voted through
Edit War!
Calls to ban him - Support
Long-winded deba...
Process problems
Constant stream of proposals, discussions & votes
Respected long-standing people not participating


Gang...
Tagging committee




Less open and inclusive
Who would get to do it? Elections? Nominations?
Who would want to do it?
  N...
Lock map features




"Protected page"
Wiki sysops are effectively the tagging committee
Split the page up
Because it's too big and to relieve the tension
BUT "what tags should I use???"
Tag cheat-sheet
http://bit.ly/1vW7Qu


Condensed list
Open & inclusive?
Who maintains?
“presets”



Condensed list
Open & inclusive?
Who Maintains?
"Map Features" application
  List tags
  Handle translations nicely
  Machine-readability
Group discussion and decision:
 ...
Tagwatch
osmdoc.com
Usage stats
Blunt instrument



More intelligent
 metrics
Floaty-Cloud-Tagwatch-on-Steroids
"Tags I use" page
Tag page has descriptions from various users
Tagstat
Social Solutions


Wiki based solutions
Shift in attitude
Tagging Principles
Instil our core principles
Write out tagging policies e.g. "Verifiability"
Link to these in all discuss...
Be Critical
Over-enthusiastic about proposals
Motivation to be more critical
Process for removing previously "accepted" ta...
Who to respect?
Expansion. Large number of newbies.
  Waffling on mailing list/wiki editing energy
  Don't know who to lis...
Grumpy old fart
“us and them” attitude
holding back enthusiasm

Work on your reputation
  Participation!
  User page. Docu...
Tag documentation
Raise the standard
Currently poor in places
    alcohol/beverages shop, pharmacy, art gallery, leisure=p...
Message to the wiki enthusiasts
Don't make proposals. Do mapping!


Message to long-standing community members:
"wikifiddl...
harry@cloudmade.com
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Harry_Wood




                               Thank you




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SOTM09 talk - Community Smoothness

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This was 15 min talk I gave at the "State Of The Map" OpenStreetMap conference on Sat 11th July 2009

Audio available. See my blog post.
http://www.harrywood.co.uk/blog/2009/10/04/community-smoothness/

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SOTM09 talk - Community Smoothness

  1. 1. Harry Wood harry@cloudmade.com Community smoothness
  2. 2. Tags Open tagging system >50,000 tags in the database “What tags should I use???”
  3. 3. “Map Features” Agreed set of tags Wiki Easy editing Open & inclusive Discussion Mediation
  4. 4. Tagging debates Different ways of thinking about mapping the world Different understandings of words horse=yes?
  5. 5. Smoothness How smooth a road or footpath is Suitability for transport types smoothness=excellent smoothness=good smoothness=intermediate smoothness=bad smoothness=very_bad smoothness=horrible smoothness=very_horrible smoothness=impassable
  6. 6. Poor use of English language Unprofessional Imprecise very_horrible? Subjective a subjective judgement poor verifiability
  7. 7. Discussion → Debate → Edit War Discussion and refining Voted through Edit War! Calls to ban him - Support Long-winded debate Chriscf's disruptive behaviour Smoothness tag in particular Tag approval processes in general
  8. 8. Process problems Constant stream of proposals, discussions & votes Respected long-standing people not participating Gang of "wikifiddlers" don't understand real mapping Too bureaucratic. Don't like voting Ideas to improve?
  9. 9. Tagging committee Less open and inclusive Who would get to do it? Elections? Nominations? Who would want to do it? Not a fun job - Deal with proposals swiss-image.ch/Photo by Andy Mettler
  10. 10. Lock map features "Protected page" Wiki sysops are effectively the tagging committee
  11. 11. Split the page up Because it's too big and to relieve the tension BUT "what tags should I use???"
  12. 12. Tag cheat-sheet http://bit.ly/1vW7Qu Condensed list Open & inclusive? Who maintains?
  13. 13. “presets” Condensed list Open & inclusive? Who Maintains?
  14. 14. "Map Features" application List tags Handle translations nicely Machine-readability Group discussion and decision: Linked to forum for discussion. Using a polling app for votes. but... reach agreement on documentation of hotly debated tags? More difficult. Wiki "Featurama" is vapourware
  15. 15. Tagwatch
  16. 16. osmdoc.com
  17. 17. Usage stats Blunt instrument More intelligent metrics
  18. 18. Floaty-Cloud-Tagwatch-on-Steroids "Tags I use" page Tag page has descriptions from various users
  19. 19. Tagstat
  20. 20. Social Solutions Wiki based solutions Shift in attitude
  21. 21. Tagging Principles Instil our core principles Write out tagging policies e.g. "Verifiability" Link to these in all discussions
  22. 22. Be Critical Over-enthusiastic about proposals Motivation to be more critical Process for removing previously "accepted" tags. One in one out? change in process
  23. 23. Who to respect? Expansion. Large number of newbies. Waffling on mailing list/wiki editing energy Don't know who to listen to Experienced long-standing OSMers → Respect
  24. 24. Grumpy old fart “us and them” attitude holding back enthusiasm Work on your reputation Participation! User page. Document achievements Too modest? Give awards. Write testimonials Photo CCBYSA jonnykeelty http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonnykeelty/462802956/
  25. 25. Tag documentation Raise the standard Currently poor in places alcohol/beverages shop, pharmacy, art gallery, leisure=park Good tag documentation reduces international misunderstandings helps match search keywords raises the bar for new proposals
  26. 26. Message to the wiki enthusiasts Don't make proposals. Do mapping! Message to long-standing community members: "wikifiddlers" are OSM enthusiasts too! Set out principles. Raise doc standards Message to everyone: Debates are inevitable, and healthy Seek positive outcomes. Take action.
  27. 27. harry@cloudmade.com http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Harry_Wood Thank you Feel free to re-use slides under Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 2.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/

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