Energy crisis and the economy

Giancarlo Fiorito
Giancarlo FioritoConsulente at International Labor Organization
Energy, Economy and Finance
    Sparse thoughts on End of an Era

  Including some reflections on how to avoid disruptions

                    Giancarlo Fiorito
Structure
• Economics as energy surplus
   – money as language not substance
• Thermodynamic economic history
   – Prometheus I & II
• IT Age
• 4 drivers of degrowth
   –   (Creative) Financial bubble
   –   Obscrured by (Data) Clouds
   –   Globalisation (of Debt)
   –   EROEI (Cliff)
• Energy and society
• Reflections
   – State of fuels
   – Oil world  High K E M intensity
• The need for mechanical energy & the constraint of renewable fuel
   – EROEI and Well-to-Wheel efficiency
   – Renewable energy system and Rails
Mirroring
• If one asked a representative sample of the public what economics
  is all about, there is a very strong likelihood that the consensus
  answer would be “money”. The vast majority of economists do
  indeed frame the debate in monetary terms.
• The problem is that the economy is not, fundamentally, a monetary
  construct at all. Economics is really about the art of combining
  tangible components (such as labour and natural resources) to
  meet needs.
• Ultimately, money is a convenient way of tokenising this process.
  The process itself, on the other hand, is an energy equation.
• The basic misunderstanding over this point – the treatment of
  money as the substantive challenge, rather than as the language
  in which that challenge is expressed – lies at the heart of the
  current economic malaise.
• In essence, an ever-widening wedge has been driven between the
  monetary and the ‘real’ economies.
                  Tim Morgan
Economics &
       thermodynamics
• Energy is
– Endosomatic food (calories)
– Exosomatic service (jouls, kWh)
• Society & economy began when agriculture
  created an energy surplus
– population engaged in non-subsistence activities
• Time and calories went on something else
– philosophy, manufacturing, art, architecture…
Law & government
Money to ease exchange
10.000 a.C.
•    Prometheus I       a forest journey* with
•    Mastery of fire for cooking
•    Agricultural Revolution
•    Forests cleared for agriculture, but
        Wood is primary energy and material
        Iron age = ovens to smelt metals
                        Hephaestus & mythology
crafts, trade, temples, roads, armies
Societal control
Soil loss

* John Perlin, A forest Journey, The Story of Wood And Civilization
XVIII sec.
• Prometheus II  a journey underground
• Steam engine in coal mines
• Exosomatic power (en. slaves)  Industrial Revolution
 Mass manuf., industrial agriculture, ships, cities

                                                           K
 Aknowledged
 complementarity
 between K and E
                                                                                      E
• And between GDP & Oil
http://www.locchiodiromolo.it/blog/petroliovs-pil.html   http://tinyurl.com/bmu2j5u


 Strict connection of fossil energy with industrial
 revolution and technical progress  more K
XXI sec. IT Age
• Requires more E and materials M
• Enhances K mobility
   Finance: growth of “Creative” $
• Globalisation = more distance, more E & M
   Outsourcing (in OECD) means…
   Less (real) production      More Consumption
     Skilled L in manufact.      Unskilled L in services
PRODUCTION             CONSUMPTION
          Widening gap = Debt
4 Drivers for the Crisis
                             and why it will last…
•    Financial (Creative) bubble
•    Obscured by (Data) Clouds
•    Globalisation (of Debt)
•    EROEI (Cliff)
http://www.cityam.com/article/economic-perfect-storm-four-trends-killed-western-growth
http://tinyurl.com/a7qynks
Financial bubble at-glance
• “Economy is a energy dynamic…” and real production is
  based on harnessing energy to tokenize surplus
  production (food, crafts etc.)
• Increase in paper-money was a reaction from increased
  energy prices in the 80’s, possible by new legal (Glass-
  Steagall) and financial (derivatives)instruments, but also …
• IT technology (globalization)
• Process in real terms is
        lower EROEI means less net energy, so…
       Finance increased the debt to hide this
       Fostering the consumption in service economy
• Pushing away the problem
Statistical data sophistication
• Discouraged workers, owner-equivalent
  rent, core inflation, hedonic
  adjustment, geometric weighting…
•   A big problem with hedonic adjustment is that it breaks the link between
    inflation indices and the actual (in-the-shop) prices of the measured goods.
    Another is that hedonic adjustment is subjective, and seems to incorporate
    only improvements in product quality, not offsetting deteriorations.
•   A new telephone might, for example, offer improved functionality (a hedonic
    positive), but it might also have a shorter life (a hedonic negative) and, critics
    claim, the official statisticians are all too likely to incorporate the former whilst
    ignoring the latter.
•   The failure to incorporate hedonic negatives may be particularly pertinent
    where home-produced goods are replaced by imports, a process which has
    been ongoing for more than two decades. A Chinese-made airbrush might be a
    great deal cheaper than one made in America, but is the lower quality of the
    imported item factored in to the equation?
The result: no inflation!
Owner-equivalent rent




•   If a person owns his home, no mortgage or rent is payable, and no money changes
    hands in respect of the property. But the reporting methodology for US GDP assumes
    that such a property has a utility which a purely cash-based measure fails to capture.
    Therefore, GDP contains a sum representing the rent which the owner would have paid
    (presumably to himself) if he had not owned the property.
•   Interest expense is backed out, but the net result remains a major non-cash uplift to
    GDP. The replacement of actual expenditure with a notional (‘imputed’) rent applies not
    just to those Americans who own their homes outright, but also to those with
    mortgages. For example, a person with 50% equity in his home is assumed to pay rent
    on 100% of it rather than, as is actually the case, mortgage interest on half of it.
Data “smoke curtain”: Growth and Jobs
Globalization, debt and EROEI
• Paying the debt is made by financial products
  “betting” on global companies future growth
• Growth possible IIF cheap & high-EROEI energy
• Meanwhile, developed countries live on services
  delivered by consuming raw materials, E, K and
  Goods, produced (and now paid) by others.
• Passing from high to low EROEI, means:
  –   Shrinking employmt, wages & consumption: no Growth
  –   More debt, less “society”: school, health, culture
  –   Deindustrializaton, social unrest, informal economy
  –   Reverting trend toward labour-intensive activities
      (bioagriculture, crafts, mechanics, electricians)
Energy, EROEI and the economy
  Economy is a surplus energy dynamic, driven by the difference between
  energy extracted and energy consumed in the extraction process.




Below an EROEI of about 15:1, the “profit” element falls off a cliff, because there is an
exponential increase in the “cost” component, which rises from 4.8% at an EROEI of 20:1 to
6.3% at 15:1, 9.1% at 10:1 and 16.7% at 5:1.
From high to low EROEI




NB: flow diagram is in percentage to highlight energy
reinvested, the volume of energy in LEVELS is likely to
shrink, implying the same for Essentials.
Population, Energy & GDP




• And one to add…energy cost as % of GDP
Toward the End of the Growth era
• What is measured here is not the value of energy, but its
  cost as a proportion of the value that we derive from it
  – If cost and value were the same, no surplus exists
  – Than the economy could not exist either




                                               9.6% GDP
Eroei < 15:1

• If EROEI falls below a threshold, much more energy is
  consumed in the extraction process, resulting in a
  corresponding squeeze on the energy available to the
  economy
• The essentials may still be affordable, but the leverage in
  the equation is such that energy available for
  discretionary uses diminishes very rapidly
• Through the EROEI squeeze, goes the car, the holiday, the
  bigger home, the MP3, the meal out, toys for the children
  and the soccer match
• If EROEI falls materially, our consumerist way of life is over
Consequences
• There are two really nasty stings in the tail of a declining EROEI.
• First, net energy availability may fall below the amount required for
  essential purposes including healthcare, government and law. It is
  hardly too much to say that a declining EROEI could bomb societies
  back into the pre-industrial age.
• Indeed, a decrease in net energy below subsistence levels is an
  implicit consequence of EROEI decline beyond a certain point – one
  which is difficult to estimate, but is likely to occur within the next
  decade – which means that this is when the nastiest results of all
  start happening.
• Second, a decline in net energy availability could (indeed, almost
  certainly will) result in conflict driven by competition for access to
  diminishing surplus energy resources.
The future
• Investment in energy infrastructure will grow much more
  rapidly than the economy as a whole  energy sprawl
• Declining energy productivity
   energy infrastructure increase more than the volume of
     produced energy
• This process is under way, though principally in the
  emerging economies (where energy demand continues to
  increase)
• Some simplified, daunting, calculations
   –   Hypothesis: Real GDP constant over 10 years
   –   Hypothesis: EROEI from 20:1 to 10:1
   –   Result: Energy costs rise 7,4% per year
   –   Result: Rest of the economy shrinks by 0.5% per year
Signals
• Energy price escalation. The inflation-adjusted market prices of
  energy (and, most importantly, of oil) move up sharply, albeit in a
  zig-zag fashion as price escalation chokes off economic growth and
  imposes short-term reverses in demand.
• Agricultural stress. This will be most obvious in more frequent
  spikes in food prices, combined with food shortfalls in the poorest
  countries.
• Energy sprawl. Investment in the energy infrastructure will absorb a
  steadily-rising proportion of global capital investment.
• Economic stagnation. As the decline in EROEIs accelerates, the
  world economy can be expected to become increasingly
  sluggish, and to fail to recover from setbacks as robustly as it has in
  the past.
• Inflation. A squeezed energy surplus can be expected to combine
  with an over-extended monetary economy to create escalating
  inflation.
    With the exception (thus far) of inflation, each of these features
   has become firmly established in recent years, which suggests that
   the energy-surplus economy has already reached its tipping-point.
A reflection
• Solid, liquid and gaseous fuels
imply lowering environm. impact
lower C/H ratio
Impact of energy system depends on EROEI but
• EROEI evauation @ national level not straightforward
 – must include both direct and indirect impact of
   building, operating, maintaning and disposing of K equipment
   related to energy system and economy as whole
• Metal, asphalt, tires, cement (and army!) are oil-related
  industries with
  – high KEM intensity
  – hard to account economic & evironmental cost
  – “Snowball” effect  inertia (big K) and debt (less production)
Energy, engines and society
Fuel          Engine                  System & synergies            Societal function
Wood, hay,    Slaves, horses, boats   Agriculture                   Hunting,
wind, water                                                         agr. prod., war
Coal          Steam (trains, ships)   Mining, machining,            Ind. prod.,
                                      textile,                      mass transport
Oil           IC (cars, trucks,       Petroch., centralzd           Mass transp.,
              planes)                 electric system,              Residential
                                      agroindustry
Nat. Gas      IC, Turbine (jets,      ICT, globalization, central   Mass transp. &
              power plants)           elecric syst., service        cons., Resid.,
                                      economy                       Suburbia, tourism
H2 ?          FC ?                    Servers, local & horiz.       IT-dedicatd power
                                      energy system, organic        plants, light
                                      agric.                        mobility,
Oil world  High K E M intensity
• High K E M intensity  service-based society
  – >90% L in services
• Globalization  Gap between Prod. & Cons.
 more jobs in Agr. & Ind in developing countries
 more jobs in Services in developed countries
 more debt in developed countries
• Change highly non-linear and un-smooth
More reflections
• The accomplishment of societal functions needs
  mechanical energy for production and distribution:
   – agricultural, industrial & transport equipment for
   – producing and delivering food and essential goods
   Requires a Fuel ≠ than Energy source (or electricity)
     (so far liquid for volumetric density reasons)
• Mechanical energy is an essential condition to maintain
  an ordered for society, as we know it
• Despite high density (36MJ/lt.) and Well-to-Tank
  efficiency of liquid (oil products) as fuel
  Tank–to-Wheel ICE efficiency is ≈ 10% in real conditions
  Tank–to-Wheel H2-Fuel cell (FC) efficiency is ≈ 50%
The need for mechanical energy and
    the constraint of renewable fuel
• The only renevable fuels are:
1. Biofuels: energy crops (fertil., water, tractors, soil & biodiv. loss) 
   refining = negative EROEI
2. Hydrogen: excess RE (wind, hydro, PV)  electrolysis 
   compression = low EROEI
• Despite low energetic Well-to-Tank efficiency of the
  RE-H2-FC cycle
 – High energetic Tank-to-Wheels efficiency of H2 in FC engines
   (tractors, vans, small power plants),
 – High economic Well-to-tank efficiency of generating high-value H2 from
   low-value excess RE
 Excess energy (intermittent & dispersed RE grid stabilization) can be
   economically stored and efficiently used as H2 in cloudy, windless
   working days for both production and transport
 Enabling a RE-based society to express essential functions like food &
   industrial production
Renewable energy system and Rails
  • The unique efficiency of rail transport on land requires
    special attention
  • Rail is a sustainable trasport infrastructure
     – Requiring high upfront, public investments
     – Delivering short and long distance services
     – Generating minimal maintenance, energy, materials and
       evironmental costs (compared to road transport)
  • The RE system is likely integrate with the railways
     – Freight can be moved by disperse renewable sources feeding the
       railway grid
     – Transportation and energy grid might become the same thing




A Wind-Powered Railway
A synergy against Olduvai
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Energy crisis and the economy

  • 1. Energy, Economy and Finance Sparse thoughts on End of an Era Including some reflections on how to avoid disruptions Giancarlo Fiorito
  • 2. Structure • Economics as energy surplus – money as language not substance • Thermodynamic economic history – Prometheus I & II • IT Age • 4 drivers of degrowth – (Creative) Financial bubble – Obscrured by (Data) Clouds – Globalisation (of Debt) – EROEI (Cliff) • Energy and society • Reflections – State of fuels – Oil world  High K E M intensity • The need for mechanical energy & the constraint of renewable fuel – EROEI and Well-to-Wheel efficiency – Renewable energy system and Rails
  • 3. Mirroring • If one asked a representative sample of the public what economics is all about, there is a very strong likelihood that the consensus answer would be “money”. The vast majority of economists do indeed frame the debate in monetary terms. • The problem is that the economy is not, fundamentally, a monetary construct at all. Economics is really about the art of combining tangible components (such as labour and natural resources) to meet needs. • Ultimately, money is a convenient way of tokenising this process. The process itself, on the other hand, is an energy equation. • The basic misunderstanding over this point – the treatment of money as the substantive challenge, rather than as the language in which that challenge is expressed – lies at the heart of the current economic malaise. • In essence, an ever-widening wedge has been driven between the monetary and the ‘real’ economies. Tim Morgan
  • 4. Economics & thermodynamics • Energy is – Endosomatic food (calories) – Exosomatic service (jouls, kWh) • Society & economy began when agriculture created an energy surplus – population engaged in non-subsistence activities • Time and calories went on something else – philosophy, manufacturing, art, architecture… Law & government Money to ease exchange
  • 5. 10.000 a.C. • Prometheus I a forest journey* with • Mastery of fire for cooking • Agricultural Revolution • Forests cleared for agriculture, but  Wood is primary energy and material  Iron age = ovens to smelt metals Hephaestus & mythology crafts, trade, temples, roads, armies Societal control Soil loss * John Perlin, A forest Journey, The Story of Wood And Civilization
  • 6. XVIII sec. • Prometheus II  a journey underground • Steam engine in coal mines • Exosomatic power (en. slaves)  Industrial Revolution  Mass manuf., industrial agriculture, ships, cities K Aknowledged complementarity between K and E E • And between GDP & Oil http://www.locchiodiromolo.it/blog/petroliovs-pil.html http://tinyurl.com/bmu2j5u  Strict connection of fossil energy with industrial revolution and technical progress  more K
  • 7. XXI sec. IT Age • Requires more E and materials M • Enhances K mobility  Finance: growth of “Creative” $ • Globalisation = more distance, more E & M  Outsourcing (in OECD) means… Less (real) production More Consumption Skilled L in manufact. Unskilled L in services PRODUCTION CONSUMPTION Widening gap = Debt
  • 8. 4 Drivers for the Crisis and why it will last… • Financial (Creative) bubble • Obscured by (Data) Clouds • Globalisation (of Debt) • EROEI (Cliff) http://www.cityam.com/article/economic-perfect-storm-four-trends-killed-western-growth http://tinyurl.com/a7qynks
  • 9. Financial bubble at-glance • “Economy is a energy dynamic…” and real production is based on harnessing energy to tokenize surplus production (food, crafts etc.) • Increase in paper-money was a reaction from increased energy prices in the 80’s, possible by new legal (Glass- Steagall) and financial (derivatives)instruments, but also … • IT technology (globalization) • Process in real terms is  lower EROEI means less net energy, so… Finance increased the debt to hide this Fostering the consumption in service economy • Pushing away the problem
  • 10. Statistical data sophistication • Discouraged workers, owner-equivalent rent, core inflation, hedonic adjustment, geometric weighting… • A big problem with hedonic adjustment is that it breaks the link between inflation indices and the actual (in-the-shop) prices of the measured goods. Another is that hedonic adjustment is subjective, and seems to incorporate only improvements in product quality, not offsetting deteriorations. • A new telephone might, for example, offer improved functionality (a hedonic positive), but it might also have a shorter life (a hedonic negative) and, critics claim, the official statisticians are all too likely to incorporate the former whilst ignoring the latter. • The failure to incorporate hedonic negatives may be particularly pertinent where home-produced goods are replaced by imports, a process which has been ongoing for more than two decades. A Chinese-made airbrush might be a great deal cheaper than one made in America, but is the lower quality of the imported item factored in to the equation?
  • 11. The result: no inflation!
  • 12. Owner-equivalent rent • If a person owns his home, no mortgage or rent is payable, and no money changes hands in respect of the property. But the reporting methodology for US GDP assumes that such a property has a utility which a purely cash-based measure fails to capture. Therefore, GDP contains a sum representing the rent which the owner would have paid (presumably to himself) if he had not owned the property. • Interest expense is backed out, but the net result remains a major non-cash uplift to GDP. The replacement of actual expenditure with a notional (‘imputed’) rent applies not just to those Americans who own their homes outright, but also to those with mortgages. For example, a person with 50% equity in his home is assumed to pay rent on 100% of it rather than, as is actually the case, mortgage interest on half of it.
  • 13. Data “smoke curtain”: Growth and Jobs
  • 14. Globalization, debt and EROEI • Paying the debt is made by financial products “betting” on global companies future growth • Growth possible IIF cheap & high-EROEI energy • Meanwhile, developed countries live on services delivered by consuming raw materials, E, K and Goods, produced (and now paid) by others. • Passing from high to low EROEI, means: – Shrinking employmt, wages & consumption: no Growth – More debt, less “society”: school, health, culture – Deindustrializaton, social unrest, informal economy – Reverting trend toward labour-intensive activities (bioagriculture, crafts, mechanics, electricians)
  • 15. Energy, EROEI and the economy Economy is a surplus energy dynamic, driven by the difference between energy extracted and energy consumed in the extraction process. Below an EROEI of about 15:1, the “profit” element falls off a cliff, because there is an exponential increase in the “cost” component, which rises from 4.8% at an EROEI of 20:1 to 6.3% at 15:1, 9.1% at 10:1 and 16.7% at 5:1.
  • 16. From high to low EROEI NB: flow diagram is in percentage to highlight energy reinvested, the volume of energy in LEVELS is likely to shrink, implying the same for Essentials.
  • 17. Population, Energy & GDP • And one to add…energy cost as % of GDP
  • 18. Toward the End of the Growth era • What is measured here is not the value of energy, but its cost as a proportion of the value that we derive from it – If cost and value were the same, no surplus exists – Than the economy could not exist either 9.6% GDP
  • 19. Eroei < 15:1 • If EROEI falls below a threshold, much more energy is consumed in the extraction process, resulting in a corresponding squeeze on the energy available to the economy • The essentials may still be affordable, but the leverage in the equation is such that energy available for discretionary uses diminishes very rapidly • Through the EROEI squeeze, goes the car, the holiday, the bigger home, the MP3, the meal out, toys for the children and the soccer match • If EROEI falls materially, our consumerist way of life is over
  • 20. Consequences • There are two really nasty stings in the tail of a declining EROEI. • First, net energy availability may fall below the amount required for essential purposes including healthcare, government and law. It is hardly too much to say that a declining EROEI could bomb societies back into the pre-industrial age. • Indeed, a decrease in net energy below subsistence levels is an implicit consequence of EROEI decline beyond a certain point – one which is difficult to estimate, but is likely to occur within the next decade – which means that this is when the nastiest results of all start happening. • Second, a decline in net energy availability could (indeed, almost certainly will) result in conflict driven by competition for access to diminishing surplus energy resources.
  • 21. The future • Investment in energy infrastructure will grow much more rapidly than the economy as a whole  energy sprawl • Declining energy productivity  energy infrastructure increase more than the volume of produced energy • This process is under way, though principally in the emerging economies (where energy demand continues to increase) • Some simplified, daunting, calculations – Hypothesis: Real GDP constant over 10 years – Hypothesis: EROEI from 20:1 to 10:1 – Result: Energy costs rise 7,4% per year – Result: Rest of the economy shrinks by 0.5% per year
  • 22. Signals • Energy price escalation. The inflation-adjusted market prices of energy (and, most importantly, of oil) move up sharply, albeit in a zig-zag fashion as price escalation chokes off economic growth and imposes short-term reverses in demand. • Agricultural stress. This will be most obvious in more frequent spikes in food prices, combined with food shortfalls in the poorest countries. • Energy sprawl. Investment in the energy infrastructure will absorb a steadily-rising proportion of global capital investment. • Economic stagnation. As the decline in EROEIs accelerates, the world economy can be expected to become increasingly sluggish, and to fail to recover from setbacks as robustly as it has in the past. • Inflation. A squeezed energy surplus can be expected to combine with an over-extended monetary economy to create escalating inflation.  With the exception (thus far) of inflation, each of these features has become firmly established in recent years, which suggests that the energy-surplus economy has already reached its tipping-point.
  • 23. A reflection • Solid, liquid and gaseous fuels imply lowering environm. impact lower C/H ratio Impact of energy system depends on EROEI but • EROEI evauation @ national level not straightforward – must include both direct and indirect impact of building, operating, maintaning and disposing of K equipment related to energy system and economy as whole • Metal, asphalt, tires, cement (and army!) are oil-related industries with – high KEM intensity – hard to account economic & evironmental cost – “Snowball” effect  inertia (big K) and debt (less production)
  • 24. Energy, engines and society Fuel Engine System & synergies Societal function Wood, hay, Slaves, horses, boats Agriculture Hunting, wind, water agr. prod., war Coal Steam (trains, ships) Mining, machining, Ind. prod., textile, mass transport Oil IC (cars, trucks, Petroch., centralzd Mass transp., planes) electric system, Residential agroindustry Nat. Gas IC, Turbine (jets, ICT, globalization, central Mass transp. & power plants) elecric syst., service cons., Resid., economy Suburbia, tourism H2 ? FC ? Servers, local & horiz. IT-dedicatd power energy system, organic plants, light agric. mobility,
  • 25. Oil world  High K E M intensity • High K E M intensity  service-based society – >90% L in services • Globalization  Gap between Prod. & Cons.  more jobs in Agr. & Ind in developing countries  more jobs in Services in developed countries  more debt in developed countries • Change highly non-linear and un-smooth
  • 26. More reflections • The accomplishment of societal functions needs mechanical energy for production and distribution: – agricultural, industrial & transport equipment for – producing and delivering food and essential goods  Requires a Fuel ≠ than Energy source (or electricity) (so far liquid for volumetric density reasons) • Mechanical energy is an essential condition to maintain an ordered for society, as we know it • Despite high density (36MJ/lt.) and Well-to-Tank efficiency of liquid (oil products) as fuel  Tank–to-Wheel ICE efficiency is ≈ 10% in real conditions  Tank–to-Wheel H2-Fuel cell (FC) efficiency is ≈ 50%
  • 27. The need for mechanical energy and the constraint of renewable fuel • The only renevable fuels are: 1. Biofuels: energy crops (fertil., water, tractors, soil & biodiv. loss)  refining = negative EROEI 2. Hydrogen: excess RE (wind, hydro, PV)  electrolysis  compression = low EROEI • Despite low energetic Well-to-Tank efficiency of the RE-H2-FC cycle – High energetic Tank-to-Wheels efficiency of H2 in FC engines (tractors, vans, small power plants), – High economic Well-to-tank efficiency of generating high-value H2 from low-value excess RE  Excess energy (intermittent & dispersed RE grid stabilization) can be economically stored and efficiently used as H2 in cloudy, windless working days for both production and transport  Enabling a RE-based society to express essential functions like food & industrial production
  • 28. Renewable energy system and Rails • The unique efficiency of rail transport on land requires special attention • Rail is a sustainable trasport infrastructure – Requiring high upfront, public investments – Delivering short and long distance services – Generating minimal maintenance, energy, materials and evironmental costs (compared to road transport) • The RE system is likely integrate with the railways – Freight can be moved by disperse renewable sources feeding the railway grid – Transportation and energy grid might become the same thing A Wind-Powered Railway
  • 29. A synergy against Olduvai