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Forecasting tricks for the
                        Vail Valley
                         Meteorologist Joel Gratz




Photo: Connor Walberg,
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Worst Year   Best Year
Colorado
                                              SNOTEL Current Snow Water Equivalent (SWE) % of Normal
Mar 11, 2013                                                                               Laramie and North Platte



                                                                                                            78                                                       South Platte
                                                                                                                             Fort Collins
                                                      Yampa and White                                                                       !
                                                                                                                                            !
                                                                                                                                                                                       "
                                                                                                                                                                                       $
                                                                                                                                                                                       #
                                                                                                                                                                                       76
                                                                                                    !
                                                                                                    !
                                                                                Steamboat Springs

                                                               78
                         Ouray

Current Snow Water                                                                                                                  Boulder

Equivalent (SWE)                                                                              Upper Colorado
                                                                                                                                   !
                                                                                                                                   !
                                                                                                                                                              69
Basin-wide Percent                                                                              Headwaters                                          Denver
of 1981-2010 Median                                                                                                                             (
                                                                                                                                                !
                                                                                                                                                [
                                                                  Glenwood Springs
                                                                                  !
                                                                                  !
            unavailable *
                                                                    76
            <50%
                                                                                                                                                                                         "
                                                                                                                                                                                         $
                                                                                                                                                                                         #
                                                                                                                                                                                         70

                                                                                           Aspen!
                                                                                                !
            50 - 69%                              !
                                                  !
                                     Grand Junction
            70 - 89%
                                                                                                                                                      Colorado Springs

            90 - 109%                                                  Gunnison                                                                      !
                                                                                                                                                     !




            110 - 129%
                                                                            79               !
                                                                                             !
                                                                                               Gunnison
                                                                                                                           Arkansas
            130 - 149%
                                                                                                                                                                  Pueblo
            >=150%                    San Miguel,                                                                                                             !
                                                                                                                                                              !


                                       Dolores,                         Ouray
                                                                                                                                                                            75
                                      Animas and                      !
                                                                      !
                                                                                                                                                         "
                                                                                                                                                         $
                                                                                                                                                         #
                                                                                                                                                         25

* Data unavailable at time             San Juan
  of posting or measurement
  is not representative at this
  time of year                                        85                                                    81
                                                                                                                   Alamosa
                                                                                                                  !
                                                                                                                  !
Provisional Data
Subject to Revision                                           !
                                                              !
                                                                  Durango
                                                                                                          Upper Rio Grande


                                                                                                                                                           Miles
                                                                                                 0 10 20              40     60             80           100
                                  The snow water equivalent percent of normal represents the current                                                        Prepared by the USDA/NRCS National Water and Climate Center
                                  snow water equivalent found at selected SNOTEL sites in or near the basin                                                 Portland, Oregon http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/gis/
                                  compared to the average value for those sites on this day. Data based on                                                  Based on data from http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/reports/
                                  the first reading of the day (typically 00:00).                                                                           Science contact: Jim.Marron@por.usda.gov 503 414 3047
Average



Last
year
                 This
                 year
Vail
January 31, 2013
Vail
January 31, 2013
Vail
January 31, 2013
My calling since age 5...




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How this presentation will help you:
How this presentation will help you:


     1) Learn snow forecasting
       tricks for the Vail Valley
How this presentation will help you:


     1) Learn snow forecasting
       tricks for the Vail Valley

       2) Understand how to
        interpret the current
          weather situation
Is Colorado the toughest
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                    Joel Gratz | Meadow Mountain, CO | 2009-03-11
La Nina storm tracks




                   Courtesy: Mike Baker, NWS Boulder
El Nino storm tracks




                   Courtesy: Mike Baker, NWS Boulder
Normal Water Temperatures
La Nada storm tracks




                   Courtesy: Mike Baker, NWS Boulder
Weather Happens
when moist air gets high
Weather Happens
when moist air gets high

1
Weather Happens
when moist air gets high

1         2
Weather Happens
when moist air gets high

1         2            3
Weather Happens
  when moist air gets high

“Weather happens” when moist air gets high.

“Weather happens” when moist air gets high.

“Weather happens” when moist air gets high.

“Weather happens” when moist air gets high.

“Weather happens” when moist air gets high.
Where’s the moisture?
Where’s the moisture?




Lots of moisture
 (ocean source)
Where’s the moisture?




Lots of moisture
 (ocean source)
                     OK moisture
                   (ocean + plants)
Where’s the moisture?

                   Less moisture
                   (land source)




Lots of moisture
 (ocean source)
                                OK moisture
                              (ocean + plants)
Weather Happens
when moist air gets high
Weather Happens
when moist air gets high

1
Weather Happens
when moist air gets high

1         2
Weather Happens
when moist air gets high

1         2            3
Five ways to get high
Five ways to get high

    C is for convection.
Five ways to get high

    C is for convection.

    L is for low pressure.
Five ways to get high

    C is for convection.

    L is for low pressure.

    O is for orographic.
Five ways to get high

    C is for convection.

    L is for low pressure.

    O is for orographic.

    U is for undercut.
Five ways to get high

    C is for convection.

    L is for low pressure.

    O is for orographic.

    U is for undercut.

    D is for dynamic.
Pleaaasssseeeee Remember
orographics
orographics
orographics
orographics
orographics
orographics
orographics
orographics
orographics
orographics
Mountains = Precipitation




             Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
Mountains = Precipitation




             Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
Mountains = Precipitation




             Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
Mountains = Precipitation

Park Range




             Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
Mountains = Precipitation

Park Range




             Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
Mountains = Precipitation

   Park Range


Flattops




                Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
Mountains = Precipitation

   Park Range


Flattops




                Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
Mountains = Precipitation

     Park Range


  Flattops



Grand
Mesa




                  Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
Mountains = Precipitation

     Park Range


  Flattops



Grand
Mesa




                  Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
Mountains = Precipitation

     Park Range


  Flattops



Grand
Mesa
              Elk
             Mtns




                    Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
Mountains = Precipitation

     Park Range


  Flattops



Grand
Mesa
              Elk
             Mtns




                    Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
Mountains = Precipitation

     Park Range


  Flattops



Grand
Mesa
              Elk
             Mtns




  N&S
San Juans

                    Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
Mountains = Precipitation

     Park Range


  Flattops



Grand
Mesa
              Elk
             Mtns




  N&S
San Juans

                    Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
Mountains = Precipitation

     Park Range


  Flattops



Grand
Mesa
              Elk
             Mtns




  N&S                 East
San Juans           San Juans

                                Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
Mountains = Precipitation

     Park Range


  Flattops



Grand
Mesa
              Elk
             Mtns




  N&S                 East
San Juans           San Juans

                                Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
Mountains = Precipitation

     Park Range


  Flattops



Grand
Mesa
              Elk
             Mtns
                           Sangre de
                            Christo


  N&S                 East
San Juans           San Juans

                                Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
Mountains = Precipitation

     Park Range


  Flattops



Grand
Mesa
              Elk
             Mtns
                           Sangre de
                            Christo


  N&S                 East
San Juans           San Juans

                                Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
Mountains = Precipitation

     Park Range


  Flattops



Grand
Mesa
              Elk   Sawatch
             Mtns
                           Sangre de
                            Christo


  N&S                 East
San Juans           San Juans

                                Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
Mountains = Precipitation

     Park Range


  Flattops



Grand
Mesa
              Elk   Sawatch
             Mtns
                           Sangre de
                            Christo


  N&S                 East
San Juans           San Juans

                                Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
Mountains = Precipitation

     Park Range


  Flattops


                       Ten Mile &
Grand
                       Mosquito
Mesa
              Elk   Sawatch
             Mtns
                           Sangre de
                            Christo


  N&S                 East
San Juans           San Juans

                                    Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
Mountains = Precipitation

     Park Range


  Flattops


                       Ten Mile &
Grand
                       Mosquito
Mesa
              Elk   Sawatch
             Mtns
                           Sangre de
                            Christo


  N&S                 East
San Juans           San Juans

                                    Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
Mountains = Precipitation

     Park Range


  Flattops
                     Gore

                       Ten Mile &
Grand
                       Mosquito
Mesa
              Elk   Sawatch
             Mtns
                            Sangre de
                             Christo


  N&S                 East
San Juans           San Juans

                                    Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
Mountains = Precipitation

     Park Range


  Flattops
                     Gore

                       Ten Mile &
Grand
                       Mosquito
Mesa
              Elk   Sawatch
             Mtns
                            Sangre de
                             Christo


  N&S                 East
San Juans           San Juans

                                    Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
Mountains = Precipitation

     Park Range             Indian Peaks /
                                RMNP

  Flattops
                     Gore

                       Ten Mile &
Grand
                       Mosquito
Mesa
              Elk   Sawatch
             Mtns
                            Sangre de
                             Christo


  N&S                 East
San Juans           San Juans

                                    Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
The best (upslope) wind direction


                Steamboat       RMNP



   Powderhorn                     Summit Co.
                          Vail
                       Aspen
                        Crested Butte

                  Telluride

                    Silverton
                              Wolf Creek
Vail: Northwest winds
Vail: Northwest winds




            Vail
Vail: Northwest winds




              Vail
     Beaver
     Creek
Vail: Northwest winds




                 G
                     or
                       e
                      Ra
                           ng
                              e
              Vail
     Beaver
     Creek
Vail: Northwest winds




                 G
                     or
                       e
                      Ra
                           ng
                              e
              Vail
     Beaver
     Creek
              Vail
              Pass
Vail: Northwest winds




                 G
                     or
                       e
                      Ra
                           ng
                              e
              Vail
     Beaver
     Creek
              Vail
              Pass
Vail: Northwest winds




                 G
                     or
                       e
                      Ra
                           ng
                              e
              Vail
     Beaver
     Creek
              Vail
              Pass
Beaver Creek: West winds




                   G
                       or
                         e
                        Ra
                             ng
                                e
                Vail
       Beaver
       Creek
                Vail
                Pass
Beaver Creek: West winds




                   G
                       or
                         e
                        Ra
                             ng
                                e
                Vail
       Beaver
       Creek
                Vail
                Pass
Snow to liquid ratio
Snow to liquid ratio


10” snow = 1” liquid --> heavy snow
Snow to liquid ratio


10” snow = 1” liquid --> heavy snow

15” snow = 1” liquid --> average
Snow to liquid ratio


10” snow = 1” liquid --> heavy snow

15” snow = 1” liquid --> average

20” snow = 1” liquid --> blower pow
Vail
January 31, 2013
Moisture in the air




                          10F      0F
                      Temperature >> colder
http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/snowcrystals/primer/primer.htm
20” snow = 1” liquid --> blower pow
20” snow = 1” liquid --> blower pow

• Lots of moisture
20” snow = 1” liquid --> blower pow

• Lots of moisture
• Mountain top temperatures
  between about 0-10F
20” snow = 1” liquid --> blower pow

• Lots of moisture
• Mountain top temperatures
  between about 0-10F

• Not too much wind
Radar
Radar
Radar
Jamming the Radar

Beam is blocked by
the first mountain and
can’t “see” to the
second mountain.




               0.5 deg
Overshooting the snow

If the radar is too far        20,000 ft
                               Vail
away, the beam can
overshoot the snow

                               15,000 ft


                               12,000 ft
Overshooting the snow



                 Denver
                 Airport


Grand
Mesa                Pueblo




                           http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/nexradinv/
Overshooting the snow


    Steamboat




                  http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/nexradinv/
Overshooting the snow


    Steamboat

                RMNP




                       http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/nexradinv/
Overshooting the snow


    Steamboat

                   RMNP

                Summit Co.




                             http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/nexradinv/
Overshooting the snow


    Steamboat

                   RMNP
       Vail
                Summit Co.




                             http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/nexradinv/
Overshooting the snow


          Steamboat

                         RMNP
             Vail
                      Summit Co.
  Aspen




                                   http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/nexradinv/
Overshooting the snow


          Steamboat

                           RMNP
             Vail
                      Summit Co.
  Aspen

           Crested Butte




                                   http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/nexradinv/
Overshooting the snow


                      Steamboat

                                       RMNP
                         Vail
                                  Summit Co.
              Aspen

                       Crested Butte
Telluride




                                               http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/nexradinv/
Overshooting the snow


                      Steamboat

                                       RMNP
                         Vail
                                  Summit Co.
              Aspen

                       Crested Butte
Telluride


              Wolf Creek



                                               http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/nexradinv/
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/nexradinv/
Surface Observations
Webcams!




           March 11, 2013 8pm
Webcams!




           March 11, 2013 9pm
Webcams!




           March 11, 2013 10pm
What’s the forecast?



To the
internet!
Favorite Sites

       Twisterdata.com

Meteo.psu.edu/~fxg1/ewall.html

Avalanche.state.co.us/index.php
Joel Gratz

joel@opensnow.com

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Forecasting tricks for Vail, CO (March 12, 2013)

  • 1. Forecasting tricks for the Vail Valley Meteorologist Joel Gratz Photo: Connor Walberg, ActionPhotoSchool.com
  • 2. Worst Year Best Year
  • 3. Colorado SNOTEL Current Snow Water Equivalent (SWE) % of Normal Mar 11, 2013 Laramie and North Platte 78 South Platte Fort Collins Yampa and White ! ! " $ # 76 ! ! Steamboat Springs 78 Ouray Current Snow Water Boulder Equivalent (SWE) Upper Colorado ! ! 69 Basin-wide Percent Headwaters Denver of 1981-2010 Median ( ! [ Glenwood Springs ! ! unavailable * 76 <50% " $ # 70 Aspen! ! 50 - 69% ! ! Grand Junction 70 - 89% Colorado Springs 90 - 109% Gunnison ! ! 110 - 129% 79 ! ! Gunnison Arkansas 130 - 149% Pueblo >=150% San Miguel, ! ! Dolores, Ouray 75 Animas and ! ! " $ # 25 * Data unavailable at time San Juan of posting or measurement is not representative at this time of year 85 81 Alamosa ! ! Provisional Data Subject to Revision ! ! Durango Upper Rio Grande Miles 0 10 20 40 60 80 100 The snow water equivalent percent of normal represents the current Prepared by the USDA/NRCS National Water and Climate Center snow water equivalent found at selected SNOTEL sites in or near the basin Portland, Oregon http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/gis/ compared to the average value for those sites on this day. Data based on Based on data from http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/reports/ the first reading of the day (typically 00:00). Science contact: Jim.Marron@por.usda.gov 503 414 3047
  • 4. Average Last year This year
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  • 9. My calling since age 5... Joel Gratz, Blue Mountain, PA, 1986. Photo: Steve Gratz Joel Gratz, Aspen Highlands, CO, 2010. Photo: Ted Mahon
  • 11. CMH Galena British Columbia December 29, 2012
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  • 15. THANK YOU!!!!! December 2007 28 person email list 2008-2009 500 person email list 2009-2010 245,000 pageviews 2010-2011 1,315,000 pageviews 2011-2012 3,330,000 pageviews 2012-2013 12,000,000 pageviews
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  • 23. How this presentation will help you:
  • 24. How this presentation will help you: 1) Learn snow forecasting tricks for the Vail Valley
  • 25. How this presentation will help you: 1) Learn snow forecasting tricks for the Vail Valley 2) Understand how to interpret the current weather situation
  • 26. Is Colorado the toughest state to forecast? Joel Gratz | Meadow Mountain, CO | 2009-03-11
  • 27. La Nina storm tracks Courtesy: Mike Baker, NWS Boulder
  • 28. El Nino storm tracks Courtesy: Mike Baker, NWS Boulder
  • 30. La Nada storm tracks Courtesy: Mike Baker, NWS Boulder
  • 31. Weather Happens when moist air gets high
  • 32. Weather Happens when moist air gets high 1
  • 33. Weather Happens when moist air gets high 1 2
  • 34. Weather Happens when moist air gets high 1 2 3
  • 35. Weather Happens when moist air gets high “Weather happens” when moist air gets high. “Weather happens” when moist air gets high. “Weather happens” when moist air gets high. “Weather happens” when moist air gets high. “Weather happens” when moist air gets high.
  • 37. Where’s the moisture? Lots of moisture (ocean source)
  • 38. Where’s the moisture? Lots of moisture (ocean source) OK moisture (ocean + plants)
  • 39. Where’s the moisture? Less moisture (land source) Lots of moisture (ocean source) OK moisture (ocean + plants)
  • 40. Weather Happens when moist air gets high
  • 41. Weather Happens when moist air gets high 1
  • 42. Weather Happens when moist air gets high 1 2
  • 43. Weather Happens when moist air gets high 1 2 3
  • 44. Five ways to get high
  • 45. Five ways to get high C is for convection.
  • 46. Five ways to get high C is for convection. L is for low pressure.
  • 47. Five ways to get high C is for convection. L is for low pressure. O is for orographic.
  • 48. Five ways to get high C is for convection. L is for low pressure. O is for orographic. U is for undercut.
  • 49. Five ways to get high C is for convection. L is for low pressure. O is for orographic. U is for undercut. D is for dynamic.
  • 51. Mountains = Precipitation Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
  • 52. Mountains = Precipitation Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
  • 53. Mountains = Precipitation Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
  • 54. Mountains = Precipitation Park Range Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
  • 55. Mountains = Precipitation Park Range Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
  • 56. Mountains = Precipitation Park Range Flattops Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
  • 57. Mountains = Precipitation Park Range Flattops Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
  • 58. Mountains = Precipitation Park Range Flattops Grand Mesa Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
  • 59. Mountains = Precipitation Park Range Flattops Grand Mesa Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
  • 60. Mountains = Precipitation Park Range Flattops Grand Mesa Elk Mtns Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
  • 61. Mountains = Precipitation Park Range Flattops Grand Mesa Elk Mtns Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
  • 62. Mountains = Precipitation Park Range Flattops Grand Mesa Elk Mtns N&S San Juans Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
  • 63. Mountains = Precipitation Park Range Flattops Grand Mesa Elk Mtns N&S San Juans Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
  • 64. Mountains = Precipitation Park Range Flattops Grand Mesa Elk Mtns N&S East San Juans San Juans Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
  • 65. Mountains = Precipitation Park Range Flattops Grand Mesa Elk Mtns N&S East San Juans San Juans Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
  • 66. Mountains = Precipitation Park Range Flattops Grand Mesa Elk Mtns Sangre de Christo N&S East San Juans San Juans Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
  • 67. Mountains = Precipitation Park Range Flattops Grand Mesa Elk Mtns Sangre de Christo N&S East San Juans San Juans Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
  • 68. Mountains = Precipitation Park Range Flattops Grand Mesa Elk Sawatch Mtns Sangre de Christo N&S East San Juans San Juans Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
  • 69. Mountains = Precipitation Park Range Flattops Grand Mesa Elk Sawatch Mtns Sangre de Christo N&S East San Juans San Juans Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
  • 70. Mountains = Precipitation Park Range Flattops Ten Mile & Grand Mosquito Mesa Elk Sawatch Mtns Sangre de Christo N&S East San Juans San Juans Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
  • 71. Mountains = Precipitation Park Range Flattops Ten Mile & Grand Mosquito Mesa Elk Sawatch Mtns Sangre de Christo N&S East San Juans San Juans Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
  • 72. Mountains = Precipitation Park Range Flattops Gore Ten Mile & Grand Mosquito Mesa Elk Sawatch Mtns Sangre de Christo N&S East San Juans San Juans Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
  • 73. Mountains = Precipitation Park Range Flattops Gore Ten Mile & Grand Mosquito Mesa Elk Sawatch Mtns Sangre de Christo N&S East San Juans San Juans Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
  • 74. Mountains = Precipitation Park Range Indian Peaks / RMNP Flattops Gore Ten Mile & Grand Mosquito Mesa Elk Sawatch Mtns Sangre de Christo N&S East San Juans San Juans Joe Ramey, National Weather Service Grand Juntion, Slide #8 2009-2010 Winter Outlook for Colorado
  • 75. The best (upslope) wind direction Steamboat RMNP Powderhorn Summit Co. Vail Aspen Crested Butte Telluride Silverton Wolf Creek
  • 78. Vail: Northwest winds Vail Beaver Creek
  • 79. Vail: Northwest winds G or e Ra ng e Vail Beaver Creek
  • 80. Vail: Northwest winds G or e Ra ng e Vail Beaver Creek Vail Pass
  • 81. Vail: Northwest winds G or e Ra ng e Vail Beaver Creek Vail Pass
  • 82. Vail: Northwest winds G or e Ra ng e Vail Beaver Creek Vail Pass
  • 83. Beaver Creek: West winds G or e Ra ng e Vail Beaver Creek Vail Pass
  • 84. Beaver Creek: West winds G or e Ra ng e Vail Beaver Creek Vail Pass
  • 85. Snow to liquid ratio
  • 86. Snow to liquid ratio 10” snow = 1” liquid --> heavy snow
  • 87. Snow to liquid ratio 10” snow = 1” liquid --> heavy snow 15” snow = 1” liquid --> average
  • 88. Snow to liquid ratio 10” snow = 1” liquid --> heavy snow 15” snow = 1” liquid --> average 20” snow = 1” liquid --> blower pow
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  • 96. Moisture in the air 10F 0F Temperature >> colder
  • 98. 20” snow = 1” liquid --> blower pow
  • 99. 20” snow = 1” liquid --> blower pow • Lots of moisture
  • 100. 20” snow = 1” liquid --> blower pow • Lots of moisture • Mountain top temperatures between about 0-10F
  • 101. 20” snow = 1” liquid --> blower pow • Lots of moisture • Mountain top temperatures between about 0-10F • Not too much wind
  • 102. Radar
  • 103. Radar
  • 104. Radar
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  • 106. Jamming the Radar Beam is blocked by the first mountain and can’t “see” to the second mountain. 0.5 deg
  • 107. Overshooting the snow If the radar is too far 20,000 ft Vail away, the beam can overshoot the snow 15,000 ft 12,000 ft
  • 108. Overshooting the snow Denver Airport Grand Mesa Pueblo http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/nexradinv/
  • 109. Overshooting the snow Steamboat http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/nexradinv/
  • 110. Overshooting the snow Steamboat RMNP http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/nexradinv/
  • 111. Overshooting the snow Steamboat RMNP Summit Co. http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/nexradinv/
  • 112. Overshooting the snow Steamboat RMNP Vail Summit Co. http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/nexradinv/
  • 113. Overshooting the snow Steamboat RMNP Vail Summit Co. Aspen http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/nexradinv/
  • 114. Overshooting the snow Steamboat RMNP Vail Summit Co. Aspen Crested Butte http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/nexradinv/
  • 115. Overshooting the snow Steamboat RMNP Vail Summit Co. Aspen Crested Butte Telluride http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/nexradinv/
  • 116. Overshooting the snow Steamboat RMNP Vail Summit Co. Aspen Crested Butte Telluride Wolf Creek http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/nexradinv/
  • 119. Webcams! March 11, 2013 8pm
  • 120. Webcams! March 11, 2013 9pm
  • 121. Webcams! March 11, 2013 10pm
  • 122. What’s the forecast? To the internet!
  • 123. Favorite Sites Twisterdata.com Meteo.psu.edu/~fxg1/ewall.html Avalanche.state.co.us/index.php
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