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State of CJK issues of LibreOffice
LibreOffice mini conference / openSUSE.Asia Summit 2017 Tokyo
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Talk summary
● LibreOffice have many language-specific features and
issues, CJK (Chinese / Japanese / Korean) issue is
o...
3
Who am I?
● Shinji Enoki ( 榎真治 )
● A member of LibreOffice Japanese Team(2011-)
● Founding members
● Join LibreOffice co...
4
LibreOffice Kaigi
5
What is CJK issues
● LibreOffice Bugzilla have the CJK meta issue
– Bug 83066(CJK) - [META] CJK issues
– CJK bugs are tr...
7
Check [META] CJK issues
Depends on:(All) 135
Open 59
Close 76
● Mark Hung is fixing CJK ISSUE Thank you!
● Some cases ar...
9
The Document Foundation:
Next Decade Manifesto
“To support the preservation of mother tongue by
encouraging people to tr...
10
CJK features
● In common with CJK, 1.use Kanji (Chinese characters), 2.
vertical writing, 3.phonetic guides (ruby)
● Ch...
11
Features specific to Japanese
● Line breaking rules 禁則処理 Kinsokushori
– [Paragraph style]-[Japanese appearance] tab
opt...
12
Last year’s LibreOffice Conference: Talk
● Kei Tasaki talked "Typical" bugs of LibreOffice in
Japanese environment
– Ho...
13
Issues status of Last year talk
● Ruby using case bug
– Bug 98269 - FORMATTING: Different spacing with
Japanese ruby te...
14
Conclusion
● To Share the Unique function and issue about CSK
● To work out to solve issues with our Japanese
members
●...
17
Bug 77514
● We can work around by setting that Mark Han advice
● I think that it is better to have such a setting by de...
18
Kanji variant is a Kanji character
with the same meaning but refers
to what the shape is different
崎 﨑 埼
碕 嵜
All charac...
19
IVS(Ideographic Variation Sequence)
In Japan, using a mechanism called
IVS to make it easier to deal with a
Kanji varia...
20
http://mojikiban.ipa.go.jp/1292.html
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IVS using case bug
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IVS problem is not fixed
● Even after 1 year, this problem has not been reported
yet
Push Backspace key
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Demo: IVS issue
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Checking is difficult
● It is difficult to understand the meaning
● Test case, sample file is not enough
● I do not und...
25
Multilingual issues that matter even at CJK
● Multilingual problem that becomes a problem with CJK
● In some time zone ...
26
Create meta issue
for each CJK language
● [META] Japanese language-specific CJK issues
– https://bugs.documentfoundatio...
28
Telegram: LibreOffice CJK
● https://web.telegram.org/#/im?
p=s1119055114_15674911573967734518
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Conclusion
● I share the Unique function and issue about CJK with
a lot of members
● I’d like to work out to solve issu...
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  1. 1. shinji.enoki@gmail.com State of CJK issues of LibreOffice LibreOffice mini conference / openSUSE.Asia Summit 2017 Tokyo 22 October 2017 Shinji Enoki
  2. 2. 2 Talk summary ● LibreOffice have many language-specific features and issues, CJK (Chinese / Japanese / Korean) issue is one of them. ● I will explain what is the CJK features and issues.
  3. 3. 3 Who am I? ● Shinji Enoki ( 榎真治 ) ● A member of LibreOffice Japanese Team(2011-) ● Founding members ● Join LibreOffice community in 2010 ● A member of The Document Foundation (2014-) ● Activity: organize events, grows community, sometimes QA ● I am a TDF certified migration professional.
  4. 4. 4 LibreOffice Kaigi
  5. 5. 5 What is CJK issues ● LibreOffice Bugzilla have the CJK meta issue – Bug 83066(CJK) - [META] CJK issues – CJK bugs are tracked META issues
  6. 6. 7 Check [META] CJK issues Depends on:(All) 135 Open 59 Close 76 ● Mark Hung is fixing CJK ISSUE Thank you! ● Some cases are not added to CJK issue due to CJK related bug I will add it in the future
  7. 7. 9 The Document Foundation: Next Decade Manifesto “To support the preservation of mother tongue by encouraging people to translate,document, support, and promote our office productivity tools in their mother tongue” ● I think this “Our Values” is very good ● Our problem want to resolve ourselves although it’s not easy to do
  8. 8. 10 CJK features ● In common with CJK, 1.use Kanji (Chinese characters), 2. vertical writing, 3.phonetic guides (ruby) ● Chinese characters are also different in Simplified Chinese (Mainland China), Traditional Chinese (Taiwan, Hong Kong) and Kanji (Japanese) – Entering kanji in this template turned to Simplified Chinese ● Even with common functions, usage methods are not always the same – Vertical writing
  9. 9. 11 Features specific to Japanese ● Line breaking rules 禁則処理 Kinsokushori – [Paragraph style]-[Japanese appearance] tab option
  10. 10. 12 Last year’s LibreOffice Conference: Talk ● Kei Tasaki talked "Typical" bugs of LibreOffice in Japanese environment – How to create a document in Japan – “Typical” bugs in Japanese environment
  11. 11. 13 Issues status of Last year talk ● Ruby using case bug – Bug 98269 - FORMATTING: Different spacing with Japanese ruby text between WIN and LINUX ● RESOLVED DUPLICATE→VERIFIED FIXED – Bug 77514 - FORMATTING: CJK ruby text (furigana) in vertical mode pushes characters to the left of the base line ● RESOLVED NOTABUG
  12. 12. 14 Conclusion ● To Share the Unique function and issue about CSK ● To work out to solve issues with our Japanese members ● To progess organization of Bugzilla sucu as CSK issue Ruby's bug Bug 77514 - FORMATTING: CJK ruby text (furigana) in vertical mode pushes characters to the left of the base line 財 団 財 団 ざ い だ ん ざ い だ ん ◯    × Bug #77514
  13. 13. 17 Bug 77514 ● We can work around by setting that Mark Han advice ● I think that it is better to have such a setting by default in the Japanese environment. How about in other languages? ● Should we make “Request for Enhancement” as an issue ? That is , Default setting switches according to languages ● Reference about ruby : https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#ruby_and_emphasis_dots
  14. 14. 18 Kanji variant is a Kanji character with the same meaning but refers to what the shape is different 崎 﨑 埼 碕 嵜 All character is same means. External Character ( 異体字 ) & Kanji variants
  15. 15. 19 IVS(Ideographic Variation Sequence) In Japan, using a mechanism called IVS to make it easier to deal with a Kanji variant. IVS is conbine the characters, as one of the character. Variation Sequence Unicode character
  16. 16. 20 http://mojikiban.ipa.go.jp/1292.html
  17. 17. 21 IVS using case bug
  18. 18. 22 IVS problem is not fixed ● Even after 1 year, this problem has not been reported yet Push Backspace key
  19. 19. 23 Demo: IVS issue
  20. 20. 24 Checking is difficult ● It is difficult to understand the meaning ● Test case, sample file is not enough ● I do not understand when I read the comment to the end ● I wanted to re-make or arrange the summary and test cases
  21. 21. 25 Multilingual issues that matter even at CJK ● Multilingual problem that becomes a problem with CJK ● In some time zone Date is shifted – Bug 59850 - EDITING: typed date decreased one day – Bug 63230 - Calc: Date decreased by 1 depending on Timezone – Is this a regression?
  22. 22. 26 Create meta issue for each CJK language ● [META] Japanese language-specific CJK issues – https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi ?id=113195 ● [META] Traditional Chinese (zh_TW, zh_HK) – https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi ?id=113193 ● [META] Simplified Chinese (zh_CN) – https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi ?id=113194
  23. 23. 28 Telegram: LibreOffice CJK ● https://web.telegram.org/#/im? p=s1119055114_15674911573967734518
  24. 24. 29 Conclusion ● I share the Unique function and issue about CJK with a lot of members ● I’d like to work out to solve issues with our Japanese members ● I want to progress organization of Bugzilla such as CJK issue ● Join us!
  25. 25. All text and image content in this document is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 License (unless otherwise specified). "LibreOffice" and "The Document Foundation" are registered trademarks. Their respective logos and icons are subject to international copyright laws. The use of these therefore is subject to the trademark policy. Thank you ! shinji.enoki@gmail.com

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