A publication of the
University of Tennessee
Inside this issue:
BY ESLers Touring Icon’s Graceland
On July 29th
Jane's dream, Page 2.
a grand tour
is about Elvis.
Jongsik's Australia, Page 7.
of Elvis? Here
is a little
Elvis Aaron Presley (January 8, 1935 Presley had a versatile voice
– August 16, 1977) middle name and unusually wide success in
(sometimes spelled Aron) was an many genres, including rock
American singer, songwriter, and roll, gospel, blues, country,
instrumentalist, and actor. A cultural ballads and pop. To date, he is What accent? Page 3.
icon, he is commonly known simply the only entertainer that has
as Elvis and is also sometimes been inducted into four music
referred to as The King of Rock 'n' halls of fame. In his career, he
Roll or The King. Presley began his set records for concert
career in 1953 as one of the first attendance, television ratings
performers of rockabilly, an up
and recordings sales. He is one
tempo fusion of country and rhythm
of the best-selling and most
and blues with a strong back beat. His
influential artists in the history
novel versions of existing songs,
mixing "black" and "white" sounds, of music, selling over one billion Doe's gadgets and gizmos, Page 6.
made him popular. records.
A Dream Come True: The ESL International House
by Jose Ruiz
The ESL Institute has been helping hundreds of people to learn
English as a second language since 1995. Many of them have
returned to their countries and a few of them have started
studying at the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga. Others
have started studying in different universities around the USA, and
still others continue to study English to continue their lives in the
We asked our wonderful director Jane Womack more about the
history of the ESL Institute and she gave us a lot of useful
information about it.
Why and how did you start the ESL Institute?
. I started the ESL institute because I felt like there was a need for ESL
on this campus. In the summer of 1994, I went to the University of
Jane Womack founded the ESL Institute. Texas in Arlington to get an ESL endorsement and while I was there
I saw this program on their campus and I had an opportunity to
talk to the teachers, observe some classes, and meet the director.
“I feel a real sense of a family with our students and I hope
it always stays that way.”
We have heard about a new International House at
The Director advised me to come back to UTC
UTC. Please, tell me about this.
and start a similar program. So when I came
Several years ago the university approved a plan to
back to UTC, I talked to the Provost and my
start an International House on campus and along
department head and they were very eager for
the way we’ve hit some bumps and snags and it
me to start the program and they gave me their
hasn’t materialized but just this spring. I want it to
blessings and they said “Start the program!”
happen immediately, because, with the house
The very next summer, in 1995, I started the
we’re going to move the ESL program into the
program. I had one other teacher and together
house and we’ll have a permanent home. We’ll
she and I taught all the classes—everything. It
have classes there. Won’t that be nice?
was a lot of work, but it was very rewarding,
It will be used for more than just classes. It will be
very exciting and I just knew that it was going to
used for parties and lectures and a place for
grow and be a wonderful program. And it is!
students just to hang out. It’s not just for the
Are you pleased with the growth of the ESL
international students—it’s for American students to
come by after classes in the afternoon and just talk,
I am very pleased. I would like for [the program]
just meet some students from other countries.
to grow and be even bigger and I still think that
What do you hope for the future of the ESL Institute at
will happen. We’ve had over 400 students go
through the program, and I feel very blessed to
Well I hope it continues to be as wonderful as it is.
have met all 400 students. Students bring their
And I hope it brings a lot of joy to the students and
country to us and we learn so much from you,
to be a family. I feel a real sense of a family with our
from the students.
students and I hope it always stays that way, even
after I retire.
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What’s in an accent?
by Beth Neely
Did you know that no matter where
you’re from or what language you speak,
you have an accent? What is an accent?
Webster’s Dictionary (2001) defines an
accent as “A stress of voice on a particular
syllable in pronouncing a word” (p. 7).
Everyone has some kind of accent. Sometimes it’s hard to adjust to our accent in another
language. How do you feel about your accent? Here’s what some of the students in our ESL program
told me about their accents:
Benny, China ~ Benny says that his accent is weird, interesting, and funny all at the same time, yet he
feels that he is well understood and would not change his accent. He likes (and even prefers) the
American accent, for to him it comes across as relaxed and easy (as opposed to the British accent).
Jose, Ecuador ~ He has a bit of a negative attitude toward his accent because he feels that
it sometimes keeps him from expressing his thoughts and being understood.
He is aware of pronunciation issues that he has and knows that he will have the same accent his
whole life but would like to improve it through practice, correcting his mistakes, and through vocal
exercises. Jose is going to try his best to maintain “proper English pronunciation.”
Blake, Korea ~ He thinks his accent is “bad” or “weird.” He thinks his accent sounds strange because
of the difference in the Korean language (which has little intonation) and the English language (which
has much intonation). He tries to sound like a North American and likes the southern accent.
Calixsto, Nicaragua ~ He likes his accent and wouldn’t change it.
Beth, U.S. ~ As an assignment for a class I took recently, I surveyed middle school teachers from an
urban (city) school and a rural (countryside) school about their accents (they all spoke English as a first
language). The urban teachers were more likely to say that they had a “standard” English accent
and the rural teachers were more likely to say that they had a “non-standard” English accent and
didn’t like their accent much. The map below shows where people in the U.S. have different accents,
but even in these big areas there are differing accents (www.uwm.edu/Course/350-192/region.html). Do
people from rural and urban areas in other countries have differing accents?
Ingredients: 4 cups water; 1 cup
Do You Know What Tom Yum Goong Is ? shrimp; 5 mushrooms 1-2 limes; 1 lemon
by Kevin Panichsathaporn grass; 3 kaffir lime leaves; 2 tablespoon
fish sauce; 5 sprigs cilantro; 3 chili
Bring the chicken stock to a boil, add
the lemongrass, galangal, kaffirlime
Have you ever heard “Tom Yum Goong?” Tom Yum Goong , is a very famous leaves and mushrooms and boil for
soup in Thailand. It’s a soup that everybody in Thailand knows and likes. Youapproximately three minutes.
Add chilli paste, chillies, tomatoes
can also call Hot and Sour Soup. It’s very healthy soup that I have often eaten.
In Thailand, you can choose what kind of meats you want to put in this soup, and prawns and simmer on low heat.
though usually it is prepared with shrimp.
Then season with fish sauce and lime
Tom Yum Goong is made by Thai and Laos People. It’s very easy to make. The juice to your liking. Sprinkle
coriander on top and serve with
basic soup is made of fresh ingredients such as lemon grass, lime leaves, fish
sauce, slices of ginger and crushed of fresh chili peppers and mushrooms. If steamed rice.
you want to have it a little bit sweet, you can add coconut milk. After you have
mixed everything together in the hot soup, it’s ready to serve on the table.
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Whatever happened to… Phillip’s favorite:
Grace Sarinya Supasalingkarn has
just completed her first year in UTC’s
prestigious MBA Program. All signs are
that Grace will succeed in business. She
recently tried to exchange a dead
goldfish for a live one at Walmart.
Oscar & Maria are now studying at
Richland College in Dallas, Texas. They
attended a luncheon at Anne
Rittenberry’s house on July 1st to say
farewell to all their UTC ESL friends. We
wish them all the best in their lives.
Dayanne Kadosh from Uruguay and
Tania Cabrales from Colombia still stay
in touch on Facebook. Dayanne has
started a catering business with sushi as a
specialty. Tania is a newlywed and is, we
hope, thoroughly enjoying marital bliss.
Miseon Kim has returned home to South
Korea where she hopes to study nursing.
She really misses Chattanooga and she is
keeping up with many of her friends
online. Miseon is enjoying spending time
with her family and with old friends. She
sends greetings to her ESL friends and,
especially, to her favorite teachers, Dee
It is very nice building with a
contemporary feel, and was crowded
My First American Concert with lots of people.
by Charles Jeong The ASO’s repertoires were great, and
included Tchaikovsky’s Capriccio Italian,
I had been playing the French horn with a Prokofiev’s Piano concerto No.3 and
professional orchestra in Korea for 3 years. Beethoven’s Symphony No. 7.
By the time I came here, I had been The sound was awesome. and the
conducting with an amateur orchestra at a conductor, Nicola Luisotti, who is Italian,
university for 2 years. was superb. His conducting in the
Music is one of the important parts in my life. Capriccio Italian was impressive. I felt
Especially I had my heart set on seeing a honored to see such concert.
major concert like the New York After the concert, I had no choice but to
Philharmonic orchestra. stand up and applaud the first music I
Eventually I went to the Woodruff Arts listened to since I came to the U.S.A. It
Center where the Atlanta Symphony was amazing and I won’t ever forget
Orchestra had a concert. hearing this music.
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On July 1, 2009 all the ESL students visited Ann’s house after morning classes.
Article & Photos by Jongsik Lee
She lives on Signal Mountain and has a beautiful house with a peaceful back yard.
Ann is so interesting. First of all, she
has a sense of humor and likes to make
a joke, so it’s very easy for anybody to
get along with her well. Visiting her
house, we realized that she is not only
mischievous, but also has a good
hobby: collecting antiques. Many of her
things were heirlooms. She has a lot of
treasures that she inherited from her
parents and grandparents. When I walked into her house, I was pretty surprised
with all those things. Her house looked very neat and arranged well like a small
museum. There were several big portraits of her family members in frames and Dee, Jane, & Anne
some accessories going around the
walls. When I sat on a rocking chair in We went to Anne’s house to
the living room, I felt a connection to celebrate 4th of July,
her mind and how much she has put Independence Day in the
into her collections. Actually, even United States. We had a lot of
though it must be hard work to clean
food from different countries
the dust off the heirlooms, she must
and cultures--food like jabchae,
love having them. Everybody knows
peach pie, tom-ka-gai, choco
that we are always interested in this
kind of person like Ann who is into collecting something precious. Second, she browny, sushi, many fruits, and
likes animals like dogs. This fact tells us she has a lot of affection to give. When salad. Especially, the tomkagai
she sees a dog which she has never seen before, she generously gives the dog was A+ number one in my
water. Nobody can say how lovely she opinion. That was a good
is. For lunch time, we had various foods chance to know about different
from Korea, Thailand, China, and the cultures according to their food.
USA. After that, we had a pretty good And also that social gathering
time in the front yard of her house. We provided us a good time to get
sat around on the soft and cushiony along with each other deeply
grass. It was like a picnic with family. and more closely. Especially,
We talked about everything whenever international students need this
we wanted. I bet that it must be the kind of place to improve their
best day of the week. And now I really appreciate her because she made me feel English. After lunch, we sat on
peaceful and she showed me her precious heirlooms. chairs in the back yard and
talked a lot about
Independence Day, July 4th.
We could hear that the day
means a lot to Americans. They
love the day and spend their
time with family setting off
fireworks at night to celebrate
freedom from England. —
Anne’s treasures are arrayed about her lovely home. Above you can see family
portraits and, to the right, displayed on the wall, an antique music box that her
father brought from Europe early in the last century.
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A Cup o’ Tea
with the Boys
On their best behaviour: Blake, Jose, Kevin, Khang, Phillip, Tak,
and Jongsik with Jane and David.
The English Rose Authentic British Tearoom & Shop
which Level 5 students visited on Thursday, July 23rd is
located on Market Street. It’s a very gorgeous place Etiquette has to do with good manners.
1On their best behaviour:
that we’d love to recommend to everyone. This
tearoom is so traditional and beautiful. The place is It's not so much our own good
decorated with roses and tea paraphernalia in a
British style. manners, but making other people feel
The seven men in Level 5 felt privileged to have tea
there and to receive a lesson in etiquette. We visited
The English Rose Authentic British Tearoom & Shop
comfortable by the way we behave.
with our teacher and with the ESL Director, Jane
Womack. We met Angela Becksvoort, who is the
owner of this place. She was so attractive in and
magnetic in her personality. We listened to her talk
about general etiquette. Most of the things that
made us feel so impressed was the afternoon tea, a
Victorian tea with an assortment of sandwiches,
cheeses and biscuits. Scones were served with Devon
cream, jam and lemon curd, along with various
English biscuits. Then, we had a wonderful lunch.
English porcelain, British groceries, tea paraphernalia
and candies fill the front parlor with other various
specialty imports from England. Queen Anne furniture
and tables topped with exquisite tablecloths and
roses set the dining room.
Tea and roses.
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GETTING TO KNOW THE LAND DOWN UNDER
Article & Photographs by Jongsik Lee
Have you ever been to Australia? This country
has not only a lot of famous places, but also
claims a variety of animals. When I went to
Australia on my last vacation, I saw some While I was traveling around Sydney, I felt like the
differences between USA and Australia. First, all Australian people never hurry up and they always
enjoy their moments even though they are in
directions for cars were totally opposite, like the
driver seat and the way to drive. I mean, some trouble. They seem to know how to get
relaxed and feel peaceful. I never saw any dirty
Australian people have the steering wheel on
the right side of cars. Second, I found out that looks on their faces while I was in Australia. They
Australia doesn’t issue a dollar bill, or even a two always try to look on the bright side of everything.
dollar bill. The lowest currency denomination is a Sometimes they might look too easy-going and
five dollar bill. So when you want to buy relaxed. In other words, they might be lazy.
something in a store, you had better consider the Surprisingly some people never work on weekends
and also if you need to travel on weekends you
change you get back. If you do not, you might
have to carry a lot of coins in your pocket. Third, might have to hurry up, because public
the Australian accent is quite different from the transportation in Australia rarely works in the
American or even the British accents. In addition, afternoons on weekends. That situation looks
when they speak, you will feel like that the sound unusual for big cities like Sydney. However, I think
came from their stomachs, not throats. So you Australian people deserve good rest, because
might not be able to understand what they are they always put their best in everything that they
saying easily. do all week long. During their spare time, if there
are any parties or some entertainment to enjoy,
they never miss them. That means they exactly
know how to have fun and when to concentrate
on their duties. Therefore I think most Australian
people are the most passionate people who I
have ever met. If you want to burn out your
passion and learn how to enjoy life or get relaxed
and peaceful, go right now to Australia without
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Doe Hyun, who started to study in the ESL Institute
this semester, has a lot of gadgets and gizmos. He has a
cell phone, a translator, a PDA, a photo viewer, a photo
printer, a film scanner, a blue tooth, a memory card
Doe’s gadgets and gizmos allow him to pursue a
reader, a laptop, a PS2 (Play Station 2), a PSP (Play
favorite hobby, photography.
Station Portable), and a fantastic camera. He has a lot
of gadgets and gizmos which are hard for ordinary
people to get because they are expensive. He is an excellentgizmos professional photographer.
Doe’s gadgets and and a allow him to pursue a
favorite hobby, photography.
He has taken pictures for five years. Of course,
He said, “My favorite is absolutely my Nikon camera. I taking pictures is one of his hobbies, but he used to
have all these devices because of the Nikon camera.” do that as a part time job in Korea. He said, “I started
to take pictures as my hobby, but it was so
interesting that I fell into the world of photography.
Then, one of my friends who saw my pictures asked
me to taking his wedding ceremony photos. That
was my first part time job using my camera.”
Gadget- An often small
mechanical or electronic
device with a practical use
but often thought of as a
Doe Hyun’s gadgets & gizmos. Gizmo- A mechanical
Doe Hyun has a Bachelor’s Degree in computer device or part whose
science and a Master’s Degree in industrial name is forgotten or
engineering. When he studied his major, he used unknown; a gadget.
all kinds of electronic devices naturally. The most
interesting thing in his character is he doesn’t
mind being the first person who uses a brand new
product. He is an early adopter. “When I recognize
that a brand new gizmo has come out, I can’t wait
to buy it,” he said, “even though I sometimes
spend a lot of money because of this kind of
impatience, I’m happy to get a new device.”
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After ESL Class: Learn Online
by Jose Ruiz
Once the ESL program has finished, we shouldn‟t stop our learning English. The Internet could be a good
option to continue learning English. You can google the words ESL or EFL and you will have a lot of links
to learn English, but let us recommend some interesting websites which could be helpful to you to learn
English and also to have some tools.
This website is perfect for beginning ESL students. You will find
some vocabulary and basic grammar links. LanguageGuide.org has
13 languages to choose for translation and one of the most important
things is you can hear the pronunciation, watch an image related to a
word, and read a correct spelling.
Do you like to listen to and watch video musicals, TV
advertisements, or movie trailers? If your answer is “yes”,
you will really enjoy this website. It has a feature in which
you can listen to, watch, and read the script of a video.
ManyThings.org is a website with different options to learn
English, such as: Vocabulary, Reading, Listening, Grammar,
Quizzes, and Proverbs.
Esl.about.com has many options as ManyThings.org has, but something
interesting is that you have some exercises for the TOEFL test. If you are
thinking about taking the TOEFL test, this website could help you a lot.
Who said we shouldn't listen to children's stories while we are
learning English? When you start learning a new
language, listening to children's stories could be a good idea to
begin on our way in a new language. Storyplace.org gives you
an opportunity to watch, listen to, and read a story.
Pbskids.org has many options to learn English. You could learn the different
sounds in vowels and consonants.
Translation2.paralink.com is an efficient online translator recommended for
any ESL student level. It has an option to read text that you want to translate.
Wikspeak.sourceforge.net is a tool that allows non-native English
speakers to analyze the correlation between the pronunciation and
spelling of English words. WikSpeak is a highly recommended tool
for anyone from the beginner to the advanced non-native English
Soziety.com is a social network based on Skype. You need to
register in it and you will be able to learn English while you meet
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Guys & Dolls Greetings
by Khang Nguyen
Around the World
On Thursday, July 9, the ESL students were invited to Candace
Long’s house to have dinner together. For the second time this
summer we got to have dinner together. The first time was at
Anne Rittenberry’s house a week before. We had great fun
We arrived at Candace’s house at 5:30, which is a perfect time
to have dinner. We prepared food which we had brought with
us. After having a superb supper, we helped clean up and
then got ready to go to see an extraordinary musical play,
Guys & Dolls. This musical was written by Frank Loesser and has
been playing for years and years on Broadway. Broadway is a Thai greetings.
very famous place for shows and plays in New York.
We got to see Guys & Dolls because of Anne and her
involvement in the Signal Mountain Playhouse. Anne is our well-
known Level Four ESL teacher and she was involved in this
production and thought it would be a very good experience
for the students to go and see the play. Thank you, Anne!
The special thing about the event was that the play took place
in an outdoor theatre. Though it was kind of hot, nobody
seemed to mind. The performances were excellent, and
everybody gave his or her attention to the play. Afterwards, we The bow.
had a chance to talk to the cast members. They were very
friendly, funny, and absolutely beautiful. We took a picture
We talked, listened, laughed—and of course learned—which is
the purpose for us having such activities. All the activities the
teachers plan for us are meant to help us learn, experience,
and better understand America’s language and culture.
Above all, we students like the chance to hang out together
outside of school; get to know each other better; and have
unforgettable moments that we all can look back on when we Ancient Tibetan greeting.
are not together anymore.
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My Experience in ESL
By Olga Lucia Correa
This summer, we started new classes in the ESL program. This course was very interesting.
The teachers were Dee, Dawn, and Eileen. Dee was the grammar teacher, Dawn was the
vocabulary teacher, Eileen was the writing teacher. I went to classes from Monday to Friday.
I was happy because I learned a lot.
Dee was a wonderful teacher. She always was taking This of the students. All courses
ESL care Summer
in this summer were important for me. My purpose Doe Hyun
By was to learn more and more
because it is very necessary for my professional development.
I remember when I was in orientation for this summer semester I
was surprised that there were so many Korean students. I didn‟t
want to speak in Korean, but I had to speak Korean in my living
Thank you, teachers, for giving me theI opportunity speak in English, but it know that easy.
environment. have tried to to lean English and is not good
Every Wednesday, I joined the dinner party which is very
helpful to speak in English, but I think that‟s not enough. Next
In the U.S. This Summer wish to be in a program which would give me a
by Tong Meesungnoen speak with native English speakers.
I have been here for four months. First, I lived with my sister in
Murfreesboro for two months, than I came to live with my mother in
Chattanooga. I don‟t feel homesick because my family has lived here and
I would like to join communities or hobby clubs. I‟m looking
my mother cooks Thai food for me every day. I usually come to class
every day to study English but when I go back home, I speak Thai with dancers who can dance „swing‟ with
for any photographers or
my mother because she can‟t speak English very well.
me. If I find someone who enjoys a hobby with me, my
I have some American friends but they are busy. I try to speak
English will get better.
with them when I have time. It was difficult to speak with American
people because I don‟t know a lot of vocabulary. Now I‟m studying
English at ESL in Chattanooga. I have many friends in ESL. They are
very friendly and helpful. They are from different country. Most of the
students are from Korea. Sometimes, I study Korean language with them.
All of the teachers at ESL are very helpful and kind. They have
many activities in class and after class. They have a party every week. I
came to the party sometimes. I enjoyed them. My teacher explains every
question to me. I think, ESL makes my English better than it was two
I was surprised I met a Thai student, Kevin. He was very kind
and helpful. He gave his English books to me. I hope he will pass the next
month and succeed in his goal. I hope to take a TOEFL next time.
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The ESL Globe Staff
More ESL Voices
by Calixto Jose Covnavaca Diaz
I started to study in ESL program because I need to
speak, write, and understand English well, before I take
the USMLE test to be a professionl hee in United States.
I was in four different classes; grammar class,
vocabulary class, listening class, and writing class. The
grammar class helped me to catch a lot of knowledge
about English structure and expression. The
vocabulary class was perfect because the book was a
good instrument for combining new words and figures.
The writing class was the most exquisite class because
it was a combining of grammar listening, and writing. I
think that it was the most important class for
discovering my weaknesses.
Philip Choi – Editor in Chief
The listening class was perfect, but the book was a
Jongsik Lee – Assistant Editor little different in comparison with the grammar and
Kevin Panichsathaporn – Copy Editor vocabulary books. I think that this class needed to give
more time to the students. I appreciate teachers for
Khang Nguyen – Graphic Editor giving us their efforts, love, knowledge, and respect for
Benny Yu– Reporter
Martha Marrufo – Student Advisor
Jose Ruiz– Student Advisor
Beth Neely – Volunteer Advisor
David Van Ingram – Editorial Advisor
Hello~ Every ESL Friend!!!
I thought about a topic for my second article for the
ESL Globe and I have chosen it as „My life here.‟
It has been almost six months since I came to this
lovely city, Chattanooga. During this time, I had
many valuable experiences, studying English and
meeting many friends. Most of my time here, I have
used for English studying. I came here for studying
English like you, and I was satisfied with my ESL
Institute and my great teachers. I have learned many
English skills that I didn‟t know before from them
after I came to the USA and I hope to get more and
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On every Wednesday, I go to the First Friends dinner party which is
offered by Dee Lapahuska for our chance to meet with native
students. There, I meet many friends from USA and other countries. It
was a very helpful time to speak with them who have diverse cultural
backgrounds for practicing my English and understanding another
culture. I really like that time but I'm very sad because I won't go there