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Genesis ch 6, #1, 2012, days of Noah, sons of god, nephilim, gigantes, giants, naphal, angels, godly line, depravity, grace
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The Days Of Noah Today we will start looking at the days of Noah. Because Jesus said;
The Days Of Noah Matt 24:36-40 "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.
The Days Of Noah/2nd. Coming No one knows the day or hour At the coming of the Son of Man it will be like the days of Noah Eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, right up to the judgment. Then, the coming of the Son of Man; Rev 19:15 Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. "He will rule them with an iron scepter." He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty.
3 Groups of People Removed before the flood. Protected through the flood. Destroyed by the flood.
Noah, A Preacher Of Righteousness 2 Peter 2:4-5 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment; 5 if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
Noah The Man Noah, a preacher of righteousness
One Of God’s Top Three Men Ezek 14:14 even if these three men — Noah, Daniel and Job — were in it, they could save only themselves by their righteousness, declares the Sovereign Lord. Noah makes it into a pretty exclusive list. Ezek 14:20 as surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Lord, even if Noah, Daniel and Job were in it, they could save neither son nor daughter. They would save only themselves by their righteousness. Why were the other 7 saved? Because of their faith.
Noah The Man Noah, a preacher of righteousness One of god’s top three men
By Faith Noah Heb 11:7 By faith Noah, when warned about things not yet seen, in holy fear built an ark to save his family. By his faith he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness that comes by faith.
Noah The Man Noah, a preacher of righteousness One of god’s top three men Noah was saved by his faith Noah had a holy fear of God’s judgment Noah’s righteous preaching condemned the world (he was not a Joel Osteen), and he did it by faith
Why Was Noah Saved? The previous list is impressive But he was saved by God’s grace, through faith because of God’s long suffering and patient waiting; Who’s that?
God Waited Patiently In The Days Of Noah 1 Peter 3:18-21 For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive by the Spirit, 19 through whom also he went and preached to the spirits in prison 20 who disobeyed long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water, 21 and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also — not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a good conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ,
Who Are The Sons Of God? Two main camps. Godly line of Seth Angels But, “The Sons Of God” aren’t the only groups mentioned;
Gen 6:1-4, Identify The Groups Men the sons of God the daughters of men Man…, for he is mortal The Nephilim The children of the sons of God/daughters of men heroes of old, men of renown.
Gen 6:1-4, Identify The Groups Men, the daughters of men, Man…, for he is mortal=mankind / humans the sons of God=Angels (in this case, fallen ones) The Nephilim=The children of the sons of God/daughters of men,= heroes of old, men of renown.
The Sons Of God, “B’nai Elohim” You already know enough Hebrew to translate “B’ene Elohim” or “B’nai Elohim” "Genesis 35:18 It came about as her soul was departing (for she died), that she named him Ben- oni; but his father called him Benjamin." Hers= the son of my sorrow His= the son of the right hand NET 2 Kings 13:24…his son Ben Hadad…
The Sons/Son Of God In NT Son Of God= Adam, angels, Jesus, and Christians Matthew 4:3 And the tempter came and said to Him, "If You are the Son of God… Matthew 27:54 Now the centurion…said, "Truly this was the Son of God!“ Luke 3:38…Adam, the son of God. Sons Of God= regenerate Christians and angels Romans 8:14 For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. Luke 20:34 -36 Jesus said to them, "The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage, 35 but those who are considered worthy to attain to that age and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage; 36 for they cannot even die anymore, because they are like angels, and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.
The Sons Of God, “B’nai Elohim” Here’s the other 3 Hebrew uses of “B’nai Elohim” ; Job 1:6 One day the angels came to present themselves before the Lord Job 2:1 On another day the angels came to present themselves before the Lord…. Job 38:7….while the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy? 1 in Aramaic, Dan 3:25 "Look! I see four men walking around in the fire, unbound and unharmed, and the fourth looks like a son of the gods.
The Sons Of God Wayne Grudem in his “Systematic Theology” on page 414 says, “Therefore, the “sons of God” in Genesis 6:2 are men who are righteous in there imitation of the character of their heavenly Father, and the “daughters of men” are the ungodly wives whom they marry.” My questions are, how close is their “imitation of the character of their heavenly Father” when they took (elabon ) “any of them they chose” of the “ungodly wives” of the “daughters of men.” Also, “men” had no Godly daughters? Believer/unbeliever unions don’t produce “heroes of old, men of renown.”
“They Took Any Of Them They Chose” elabon verb indicative aorist active 3rd person plural elambanw … take, take hold of; receive, get, obtain; take away, remove; collect (of taxes, etc.); choose (He 5.1); put on (Jn 13.12); catch (Lk 5.5); trap, take advantage of (2 Cor 11.20; 12.16)
Jewish and Patristic Fathers The Jewish Fathers, Early Church Fathers and Philo of Alexandria interpreted the expression “sons of God” in Genesis 6:2, as "angels." “The Early Church Fathers believed the same way. Men like Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Athenagoras, Tertullian, Lactantius, Eusebius, Ambrose...all adopted this interpretation. In the words of the Ante-Nicene Fathers, the angels fell "into impure love of virgins, and were subjugated by the flesh...Of those lovers of virgins therefore, were begotten those who are called giants.” …We cannot deny the Jewish Fathers knowledge of their own terminology! They invariably translated "sons of God" as "angels." ” www.redicecreations.com
The Sons Of God = “Godly line”? I also question how this “Godly line” had so few Godly sons and daughters? Only 8?
Angels Seraphim, Cherubim, Man /Form Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; Holy / Fallen Fallen Bound Loose
Angels That Sinned In Gloomy Dungeons 2 Peter 2:4-6 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment; 5 if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others; NIV Jude 6-7 And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their own home — these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. NIV
Genesis 6:4 The Nephilim NAU Genesis 6:4 The Nephilim were on the earth… NET ESV CSB NAS NAU Genesis 6:4 The Nephilim... NKJ KJV Genesis 6:4 There were giants... YLT Genesis 6:4 The fallen ones were in the earth in those days...
The Nephilim (Gigantes) in LXX Deut 3:11 (Only Og king of Bashan was left of the remnant of the Rephaites. His bed was made of iron and was more than thirteen feet long and six feet wide. It is still in Rabbah of the Ammonites.)
The Nephilim (Gigantes) in LXX gi,gantej noun nominative masculine plural common [LS] gi,gaj, GI´GAS …..mostly in pl. Gi,gantej, the Giants, a savage race destroyed by the gods, Od.; the sons of Gaia, Hes. II. as Adj. mighty, Ze,furoj gi,gaj Aesch. Gigantes, Grk. We get English; Gigantic, Gigantism, Giants, from it. DLK
Amos 2:9 "I [the lord] destroyed the Amorite before them, though he was tall as the cedars and strong as the oaks. I destroyed his fruit above and his roots below.
Nephilim in Hebrew, Root naphal OT:5303, nephiyl (nef-eel); or nephil (nef-eel); from OT:5307; properly, a feller, i.e. a bully or tyrant:, KJV - giant. OT:5307, naphal (naw-fal); a primitive root; to fall, in a great variety of applications (intransitive or causative, literal or figurative): KJV - …(cause to, let, make, ready to) fall (away, down, -en, -ing), fell (-ing), fugitive, have [inheritance], inferior, be judged…
The Nephilim (Gigantes) in LXX “When the Greek Septuagint was made, "Nephilim" was translated as "gegenes." This word suggests "giants" but actually it has little reference to size or strength. "Gegenes" means "earth born." The same term was used to describe the mythical "Titans" -- being partly of celestial and partly of terrestrial origin... In some of the manuscripts it is left as "sons of God," but in the others-- including the Alexandrian text--it is rendered by the word "angelos." This text was in existence in the time of Christ, but there is no indication that He ever corrected or queried it. Can we not assume from His silence that He agreed with the translation!” www.redicecreations.com
And Also Afterward Gen 6:4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days — and also afterward —
Num 13:27-33 Num 13:27-33 They gave Moses this account: "We went into the land to which you sent us, and it does flow with milk and honey! Here is its fruit. 28 But the people who live there are powerful, and the cities are fortified and very large. We even saw descendants of Anak there. …. 31 But the men who had gone up with him said, "We cant attack those people; they are stronger than we are." 32 And they spread among the Israelites a bad report about the land they had explored. They said, "The land we explored devours those living in it. All the people we saw there are of great size. 33 We saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak come from the Nephilim). We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them."
And Also Afterward The sons of God could have sinned again and that is why God wiped out all the Canaanites. Genesis 9:24 When Noah awoke from his wine, he knew what his youngest son had done to him. 25 So he said, "Cursed be Canaan… Or, possibly, Noah’s daughter-in-laws carried a genetic defect and were not “perfect in their generations.” I’m not so sure about the girls. It doesn’t say, “Noah and his daughter-in-laws were perfect in their generations.”
"Sons Of Seth" “Perhaps the most conclusive argument for interpreting the expression as "angels" is the simplest one of all. If the writer of Genesis wanted to refer to the "sons of Seth" he would have just said so. If God had intended that meaning, then the verse would undoubtedly read, "the sons of Seth saw the daughters of Cain that they were fair..." But the Bible meant something far more sinister-- the sexual union between angels from Hell and evil women from Earth. Because of the gravity of such a union, and its dire consequences for the human race, God moved to destroy the race before it could destroy itself--except for one family which had not been contaminated. ” www.redicecreations.com
Gen 6:5-7 Gen 6:5-7 The Lord saw how great mans wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time. 6 The Lord was grieved that he had made man on the earth, and his heart was filled with pain. This is the reason God gave for the flood, but many scholars add the corruption of genes as a cause.
Gen 6:9-13 Gen 6:9 This is the account [toledot] of Noah….
Noah Was "Perfect In His Generation" “Genesis 6:9 says that Noah was "perfect in his generation." Does this mean moral and spiritual perfection? Hardly. Genesis 9:20-23 disproves any such perfection. What, then, does the Bible mean by calling him "perfect"? The Hebrew word is "tamiym" and comes from the root word "taman." This means "without blemish" as in Exodus 12:5, 29:1, Leviticus 1:3. Just as the sacrificial lamb had to be without any physical blemish, so Noahs perfection. In its primary meaning, it refers not to any moral or spiritual quality, but to physical purity. Noah was uncontaminated by the alien invaders.” ” www.redicecreations.com
Gen. 6:14, Kaphar Genesis 6:14…an ark of gopher wood… cover it inside and out with pitch. OT:3722, kaphar (kaw-far); a primitive root; to cover (specifically with bitumen); figuratively, to expiate or condone, to placate or cancel: KJV - appease, make (an atonement, cleanse, disannul, forgive, be merciful, pacify, pardon, purge (away), put off, (make) reconcile (-liation).
The Angels In Heaven Don’t Marry Mark 12:24-25 Jesus replied, "Are you not in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God? 25 When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven. Does this give us any info about fallen angels in rebellion against God?
Angels Do Not Marry Some interpret the words of Jesus as meaning that angels do not marry among themselves. Is it because they are all male? Or is it because celestial beings are deathless and thus need no offspring. Only terrestrial beings need to find immortality in their children. (17) But if they do not need to marry and procreate, is it still possible that they could engage in sexual acts? If not among themselves then with human spouses? Jude seems quite explicit on the matter: the angels left their own habitation, and gave themselves over to fornication, going after strange flesh. In other words, they were capable of performing human functions--eating, drinking, walking, talking, even sexual activity and fathering children. www.redicecreations.com
Two Angels Arrived At Sodom Gen 19:1-5 The two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of the city….4 Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom — both young and old — surrounded the house. 5 They called to Lot, "Where are the men [two angels] who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."
SpiritAndTruth.org by Tony Garland “Some who oppose this interpretation offer Matthew 22:30 and Mark 12:24 as evidence that angels do not procreate -- with which we would agree: elect angels do not procreate. Neither are they given in marriage. Note that this teaching also applies to glorified humans in heaven. But before their arrival in heaven, humans are able to procreate. Thus, the activities and restrictions upon beings in their elect glorification in heaven, need not apply to every possibility in other situations. That it is possible for some of the most malevolently destructive and perverse beings in all creation -- fallen angels -- to go after strange flesh, Jude seems to make abundantly clear…”
The Waters Of Noah = Re-gathering We need to Look at one more O.T. reference to “the waters of Noah”
The Waters Of Noah + Re-gathering Isa 54:5-10 For your Maker is your husband — the Lord Almighty is his name — the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer; he is called the God of all the earth. 6 The Lord will call you back as if you were a wife deserted and distressed in spirit — a wife who married young, only to be rejected," says your God. 7 "For a brief moment I abandoned you, but with deep compassion I will bring you back. 8 In a surge of anger I hid my face from you for a moment, but with everlasting kindness I will have compassion on you,“ says the Lord your Redeemer. 9 "To me this is like the days of Noah, when I swore that the waters of Noah would never again cover the earth. So now I have sworn not to be angry with you, never to rebuke you again. 10 Though the mountains be shaken and the hills be removed, yet my unfailing love for you will not be shaken nor my covenant of peace be removed,“ says the Lord, who has compassion on you.
Amos 3:7 Amos 3:7 Surely the Sovereign Lord does nothing without revealing his plan to his servants the prophets. 1 Thess 5:1-5 Now, brothers, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, 2 for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3 While people are saying, "Peace and safety," destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape. 4 But you, brothers, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief. 5 You are all sons of the light and sons of the day…
Genesis 6:8, Noah Found Grace NKJ Genesis 6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD. This is the first use of “grace” in the Bible.
http://www.SpiritAndTruth.org/news/20080113.htm Q79 : Sons of God and Daughters of Men Hi. I stumbled upon your site while researching the 7x70 in Leviticus 26:21, but thats not why Im writing. I dont know how you feel/or what you think about the sons of God issue in Genesis 6:1, and I couldnt find that out from your list of topics. As you know there are 2 [predominant] beliefs about who these sons of God are. If you would be so kind, would you let me know which belief you hold? [I hold the view that the text indicates that the sons of God are fallen angels] but I cant come to grips with the chromosome issue. Simple possession of human males would not create the Nephilim described in the bible, so how is it that angels are able to produce sperm? This is where my question lies. Either God, as part of His grand plan, would have had to create them such; or Satan in some sort of distorted creative ability would had to have done it. As far as the later concept is concerned, Satan, by his evil nature, did create many things not in existence prior, i.e. death, evil, sin, illness, etc., etc. Somehow this tainted fallen angelic seed was able to join with human female eggs to create these creatures. Please respond back with your thoughts on the chromosome issue, which is my stumbling block to what I believe the Bible teaches. A79 : by Tony Garland As bizarre as it might seem, it is my belief that both the language and context of Genesis 6, along with related passages (e.g., Jude) clearly indicate that the phrase sons of God there can only refer to angelic beings who were able to produce offspring with daughters of men which the passage implies were mighty men of old, men of renown and which are denoted giants (nephilim from Hebrew NFL - fallen ones). Some who oppose this interpretation offer Matthew 22:30 and Mark 12:24 as evidence that angels do not procreate -- with which we would agree: elect angels do not procreate. Neither are they given in marriage. Note that this teaching also applies to glorified humans in heaven. But before their arrival in heaven, humans are able to procreate. Thus, the activities and restrictions upon beings in their elect glorification in heaven, need not apply to every possibility in other situations. That it is possible for some of the most malevolently destructive and perverse beings in all creation -- fallen angels -- to go after
Acts and Facts, Dr. Larry Vardiman “Mitochondrial DNA and a Recent Human Origin.” A team of scientists that includes Dr. Daniel Criswell of ICR has …completed a study of mitochondrial DNA …presenting…International Conference on Creationism… the mitochondrion has its own small DNA molecule and this DNA is passed down from mother to child. The study has revealed an unexpected lack of diversity within worldwide human mitochondrial lineages, despite high mutation rates, and this supports the idea that humanity is only a few thousand years old. …it contains several interesting tenets: 1) there was a single dispersal of mankind with three main mitochondrial lineages interspersed within clans; 2) the dispersion was centered in the Middle East in the recent past; 3) the dispersion was essentially tribal in nature, with small groups pushing into previously uninhabited territory; and 4) genetic evidence indicates that male lineages are much more geographically specific than female lineages, with female migration rates up to eight times greater than males. This latter tenet is an expression of the Babel account in Genesis, where the initial,
Acts and Facts In Acts and Facts, May, 2008, pg. 6, Dr. Larry Vardiman, Director of Research at ICR, wrote “Mitochondrial DNA and a Recent Human Origin.” Mitochondrial DNA and a Recent Human Origin by Larry Vardiman, Ph.D. * A team of scientists that includes Dr. Daniel Criswell of ICR has recently completed a study of mitochondrial DNA and will be presenting its work at this summers International Conference on Creationism. A mitochondrion is a cellular power plant that generates most of the chemical energy the cell needs to support its functions. Although most of a cells DNA is contained in the nucleus, the mitochondrion has its own small DNA molecule and this DNA is passed down from mother to child. The study has revealed an unexpected lack of diversity within worldwide human mitochondrial lineages, despite high mutation rates, and this supports the idea that humanity is only a few thousand years old. Mitochondrial DNA has been used to develop several models of
SpiritAndTruth.org by Tony Garland Some who oppose this interpretation offer Matthew 22:30 and Mark 12:24 as evidence that angels do not procreate -- with which we would agree: elect angels do not procreate. Neither are they given in marriage. Note that this teaching also applies to glorified humans in heaven. But before their arrival in heaven, humans are able to procreate. Thus, the activities and restrictions upon beings in their elect glorification in heaven, need not apply to every possibility in other situations. That it is possible for some of the most malevolently destructive and perverse beings in all creation -- fallen angels -- to go after strange flesh, Jude seems to make abundantly clear: And the [angels (masculine plural)] who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day; as [Sodom (neuter plural)] and [Gomorrah (feminine singular)], and the [cities (feminine plural)] around them in a similar manner to [these (masculine plural)], [having given themselves over to sexual immorality (feminine plural)] and [gone after (feminine plural)] strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. (Jude 1:6-7)…. Jude seems to be teaching that Sodom, Gomorrah and the related cities went after strange flesh in a manner comparable to the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode and are now reserved for the judgment of the great day. These particular angels must have performed some especially heinous crime comparable to the homosexuality recorded of Sodom -- a profane act which crosses sexual boundaries established by Gods created order.
2 Peter 3:3-7 2 Peter 3:3-7 First of all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4 They will say, "Where is this coming he promised? Ever since our fathers died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation." 5 But they deliberately forget that long ago by Gods word the heavens existed and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 6 By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. 7 By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.