The 10 Or So Things I Wish I Knew About Researching, Thinking About, and Deciding on College!!

Dianne Krause
Dianne KrauseInstructional Technology Specialist, Professional Trainer, & Lifelong Learner at Northwest Council for Computer Education (NCCE)
The 10 Or So Things I Wish I Knew About Researching, Thinking About, and Deciding on College!!
The 10 (or so)
    Things
 I Wish I Knew
     About
  Researching,
Thinking About,
 & Deciding On
   College!!!
WHY ARE WE
  HERE
 TODAY?
Differences Between
College and High School
Differences Between
        College and High School
   High School
 
      
• Highly structured environment
• Significant learning and work inside of
  Class
• Student is a “minor,” the parent is
  responsible
• Grades might reflect effort
• Curriculum is uniform
• Teachers will work to ensure all students
  success
• School must keep student even if failing
Differences Between
College and High School
Differences Between
         College and High School
College     
• Student is considered to be an adult
• More flexible curriculum and class
  schedule
• Significant learning and studying
  outside of class
• Grades reflect performance
• Student must seek resources and
  assistance
• School will dismiss students for
  failing to meet minimum
  expectations
Choosing The Right College For You
Choosing The Right College For You
The top 100 schools
Public vs. Private
Small      Medium                 Large           Huge
< 5,000      5,000-15,000      15, 000 +
30,000 +
Location, Location, Location
   commuter vs. residential college
   urban vs. suburban vs. Rural
   how far will you go??
         2-4 hrs     6-8 hrs 10 hrs +
Specific Interest Schools: Single-sex, Military,
Religious, Distance Learning, Liberal Arts
By Discipline: Engineering/ Computer Science,
Music, Education, Business, Fashion, Art,
College vs. University
Choosing The Right College For You
   The Investigation and Interrogation Process
Choosing The Right College For You
       The Investigation and Interrogation Process
Rankings are a good start but also…
Go to the school’s website: including their college catalog, student
handbook, student activities/organizations office, athletics,
academic departments
Visit Facebook groups & other related sites: not all of these sites are
valid, but you can get some different perspectives. (i.e.-
www.studentsreview.com, www.collegeboard.com, www.act.org)
Visit the campus on a regular day: eat in the                dining
hall, sit in on a class, walk through the             dorms, buildings,
and campus
Talk with faculty/students/staff: contact a            student leader or
dept. chair or dean or someone                  in “Student Affairs”
Separate fact from fiction: campus AND local                 crime
statistics, student newspaper, annual report
The ‘Personality’ of the School
The ‘Personality’ of the School

  Mission
  Vision
  Philosophy
  Tag Line/Motto
  Tradition
  Atmosphere
  College vs. University
Rugg’s Recommendations
Campus Diversity
1. Pine Manor College (MA)
2. Whittier College (CA)
3. Marymount Manhattan Col (NY)
4. Occidental (CA)
5. Wellesley College (MA)




                                  8
Rugg’s Recommendations
Non-Ivy Medical School Placements
Abilene Christian (TX)
Allegheny (PA)
American (DC)
Bryn Mawr (PA)
DePaul (IL)
Gettysburg (PA)
Holy Cross (MA)



                                    9
Rugg’s Recommendations
“Snob” Colleges
Amherst
Brown
Colgate
Duke
Georgetown
Johns Hopkins
Notre Dame



                             10
Let’s Play Guess the School
Let’s Play Guess the School
‘invent the future’   (VT, UNLV, USC)
Let’s Play Guess the School
‘invent the future’   (VT, UNLV, USC)

              ‘----- an augustine university’   (Nova)
Let’s Play Guess the School
‘invent the future’   (VT, UNLV, USC)

              ‘----- an augustine university’          (Nova)




‘no where else but --------’            (notre dame)
Let’s Play Guess the School
‘invent the future’   (VT, UNLV, USC)

              ‘----- an augustine university’            (Nova)




‘knowledge without boundaries’          (UPenn)




‘no where else but --------’              (notre dame)
Let’s Play Guess the School
‘invent the future’   (VT, UNLV, USC)

              ‘----- an augustine university’                 (Nova)




‘knowledge without boundaries’            (UPenn)




‘no where else but --------’                   (notre dame)



 ‘seize the opportunity’      (Millersville)
Let’s Play Guess the School
‘invent the future’   (VT, UNLV, USC)

              ‘----- an augustine university’                 (Nova)




‘knowledge without boundaries’            (UPenn)


 ‘expect excellence’     (west chester)



‘no where else but --------’                   (notre dame)



 ‘seize the opportunity’      (Millersville)
Let’s Play Guess the School
‘invent the future’   (VT, UNLV, USC)

              ‘----- an augustine university’                 (Nova)

‘a college-like university’    (Bucknell)




‘knowledge without boundaries’              (UPenn)


  ‘expect excellence’    (west chester)



 ‘no where else but --------’                  (notre dame)



  ‘seize the opportunity’     (Millersville)
Let’s Play Guess the School
‘invent the future’   (VT, UNLV, USC)

              ‘----- an augustine university’                 (Nova)

‘a college-like university’    (Bucknell)


 ‘honor.courage.commitment -----’                 (usnavalacademy)

‘knowledge without boundaries’              (UPenn)


  ‘expect excellence’    (west chester)



 ‘no where else but --------’                  (notre dame)



  ‘seize the opportunity’     (Millersville)
Let’s Play Guess the School
Let’s Play Guess the School
‘learning together, to change the world’   (hopkins)
Let’s Play Guess the School
‘learning together, to change the world’     (hopkins)




‘for god, for country, and for -----’      (Yale)
Let’s Play Guess the School
‘learning together, to change the world’          (hopkins)




‘for god, for country, and for -----’           (Yale)


           ‘ever to excel’   (boston college)
Let’s Play Guess the School
‘learning together, to change the world’          (hopkins)




‘leader in education-pioneer in research-partner
in regional development’ (Pitt)




‘for god, for country, and for -----’           (Yale)


           ‘ever to excel’   (boston college)
Let’s Play Guess the School
‘learning together, to change the world’          (hopkins)

‘lead--leaders educated to make a difference‘ - (fsu)

‘leader in education-pioneer in research-partner
in regional development’ (Pitt)




‘for god, for country, and for -----’           (Yale)


           ‘ever to excel’   (boston college)
Let’s Play Guess the School
‘learning together, to change the world’          (hopkins)

‘lead--leaders educated to make a difference‘ - (fsu)

‘leader in education-pioneer in research-partner
in regional development’ (Pitt)

    ‘making life better’      (PSU)




‘for god, for country, and for -----’           (Yale)


           ‘ever to excel’   (boston college)
What About Athletics?
       What are my options?

VARSITY LEVEL- (NCAA) The National
Collegiate Athletic Association

JV/CLUB LEVEL

INTRAMURAL SPORTS
What About Clubs?
         What are my options?

Student Union

Student Run vs. Faculty Run

Academic vs. Service vs. Social

Ask, Ask, Ask
A word about getting accepted
 to top schools

In any given year, an Ivy type
school will reject 70% of
students who apply with SAT's
over 1400. Also, students who
apply to the top schools usually
have all A's. 60% don't get in.
Therefore, when applying to
very competitive colleges,
ALWAYS have a plan B.

                                   15
Top 5 Schools Wiss seniors go
to:
1. Montgomery County
Community College
2. Temple
3. Penn State (main campus
and satellites)
4. Pitt
5. Drexel




                             16
Financial Aid/Scholarship
Starting Points

www.finaid.com

www.fastweb.com




                            17
The 10 Or So Things I Wish I Knew About Researching, Thinking About, and Deciding on College!!
QUESTIONS?
QUESTIONS?
1. This is a process...
                          BE PROACTIVE!

2. This all takes time...
                  GET STARTED EARLY!

3. The resources exist...
                               USE THEM!

4. There are a lot of options....
            CHOOSE A SCHOOL THAT FITS!
1. This is a process...
                          BE PROACTIVE!

2. This all takes time...
                  GET STARTED EARLY!

3. The resources exist...
                               USE THEM!

4. There are a lot of options....
            CHOOSE A SCHOOL THAT FITS!
AND FINALLY...
1. This is a process...
                          BE PROACTIVE!

2. This all takes time...
                  GET STARTED EARLY!

3. The resources exist...
                               USE THEM!

4. There are a lot of options....
            CHOOSE A SCHOOL THAT FITS!
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The 10 Or So Things I Wish I Knew About Researching, Thinking About, and Deciding on College!!

  • 2. The 10 (or so) Things I Wish I Knew About Researching, Thinking About, & Deciding On College!!!
  • 3. WHY ARE WE HERE TODAY?
  • 5. Differences Between College and High School High School • Highly structured environment • Significant learning and work inside of Class • Student is a “minor,” the parent is responsible • Grades might reflect effort • Curriculum is uniform • Teachers will work to ensure all students success • School must keep student even if failing
  • 7. Differences Between College and High School College • Student is considered to be an adult • More flexible curriculum and class schedule • Significant learning and studying outside of class • Grades reflect performance • Student must seek resources and assistance • School will dismiss students for failing to meet minimum expectations
  • 8. Choosing The Right College For You
  • 9. Choosing The Right College For You The top 100 schools Public vs. Private Small Medium Large Huge < 5,000 5,000-15,000 15, 000 + 30,000 + Location, Location, Location commuter vs. residential college urban vs. suburban vs. Rural how far will you go?? 2-4 hrs 6-8 hrs 10 hrs + Specific Interest Schools: Single-sex, Military, Religious, Distance Learning, Liberal Arts By Discipline: Engineering/ Computer Science, Music, Education, Business, Fashion, Art, College vs. University
  • 10. Choosing The Right College For You The Investigation and Interrogation Process
  • 11. Choosing The Right College For You The Investigation and Interrogation Process Rankings are a good start but also… Go to the school’s website: including their college catalog, student handbook, student activities/organizations office, athletics, academic departments Visit Facebook groups & other related sites: not all of these sites are valid, but you can get some different perspectives. (i.e.- www.studentsreview.com, www.collegeboard.com, www.act.org) Visit the campus on a regular day: eat in the dining hall, sit in on a class, walk through the dorms, buildings, and campus Talk with faculty/students/staff: contact a student leader or dept. chair or dean or someone in “Student Affairs” Separate fact from fiction: campus AND local crime statistics, student newspaper, annual report
  • 13. The ‘Personality’ of the School Mission Vision Philosophy Tag Line/Motto Tradition Atmosphere College vs. University
  • 14. Rugg’s Recommendations Campus Diversity 1. Pine Manor College (MA) 2. Whittier College (CA) 3. Marymount Manhattan Col (NY) 4. Occidental (CA) 5. Wellesley College (MA) 8
  • 15. Rugg’s Recommendations Non-Ivy Medical School Placements Abilene Christian (TX) Allegheny (PA) American (DC) Bryn Mawr (PA) DePaul (IL) Gettysburg (PA) Holy Cross (MA) 9
  • 17. Let’s Play Guess the School
  • 18. Let’s Play Guess the School ‘invent the future’ (VT, UNLV, USC)
  • 19. Let’s Play Guess the School ‘invent the future’ (VT, UNLV, USC) ‘----- an augustine university’ (Nova)
  • 20. Let’s Play Guess the School ‘invent the future’ (VT, UNLV, USC) ‘----- an augustine university’ (Nova) ‘no where else but --------’ (notre dame)
  • 21. Let’s Play Guess the School ‘invent the future’ (VT, UNLV, USC) ‘----- an augustine university’ (Nova) ‘knowledge without boundaries’ (UPenn) ‘no where else but --------’ (notre dame)
  • 22. Let’s Play Guess the School ‘invent the future’ (VT, UNLV, USC) ‘----- an augustine university’ (Nova) ‘knowledge without boundaries’ (UPenn) ‘no where else but --------’ (notre dame) ‘seize the opportunity’ (Millersville)
  • 23. Let’s Play Guess the School ‘invent the future’ (VT, UNLV, USC) ‘----- an augustine university’ (Nova) ‘knowledge without boundaries’ (UPenn) ‘expect excellence’ (west chester) ‘no where else but --------’ (notre dame) ‘seize the opportunity’ (Millersville)
  • 24. Let’s Play Guess the School ‘invent the future’ (VT, UNLV, USC) ‘----- an augustine university’ (Nova) ‘a college-like university’ (Bucknell) ‘knowledge without boundaries’ (UPenn) ‘expect excellence’ (west chester) ‘no where else but --------’ (notre dame) ‘seize the opportunity’ (Millersville)
  • 25. Let’s Play Guess the School ‘invent the future’ (VT, UNLV, USC) ‘----- an augustine university’ (Nova) ‘a college-like university’ (Bucknell) ‘honor.courage.commitment -----’ (usnavalacademy) ‘knowledge without boundaries’ (UPenn) ‘expect excellence’ (west chester) ‘no where else but --------’ (notre dame) ‘seize the opportunity’ (Millersville)
  • 26. Let’s Play Guess the School
  • 27. Let’s Play Guess the School ‘learning together, to change the world’ (hopkins)
  • 28. Let’s Play Guess the School ‘learning together, to change the world’ (hopkins) ‘for god, for country, and for -----’ (Yale)
  • 29. Let’s Play Guess the School ‘learning together, to change the world’ (hopkins) ‘for god, for country, and for -----’ (Yale) ‘ever to excel’ (boston college)
  • 30. Let’s Play Guess the School ‘learning together, to change the world’ (hopkins) ‘leader in education-pioneer in research-partner in regional development’ (Pitt) ‘for god, for country, and for -----’ (Yale) ‘ever to excel’ (boston college)
  • 31. Let’s Play Guess the School ‘learning together, to change the world’ (hopkins) ‘lead--leaders educated to make a difference‘ - (fsu) ‘leader in education-pioneer in research-partner in regional development’ (Pitt) ‘for god, for country, and for -----’ (Yale) ‘ever to excel’ (boston college)
  • 32. Let’s Play Guess the School ‘learning together, to change the world’ (hopkins) ‘lead--leaders educated to make a difference‘ - (fsu) ‘leader in education-pioneer in research-partner in regional development’ (Pitt) ‘making life better’ (PSU) ‘for god, for country, and for -----’ (Yale) ‘ever to excel’ (boston college)
  • 33. What About Athletics? What are my options? VARSITY LEVEL- (NCAA) The National Collegiate Athletic Association JV/CLUB LEVEL INTRAMURAL SPORTS
  • 34. What About Clubs? What are my options? Student Union Student Run vs. Faculty Run Academic vs. Service vs. Social Ask, Ask, Ask
  • 35. A word about getting accepted to top schools In any given year, an Ivy type school will reject 70% of students who apply with SAT's over 1400. Also, students who apply to the top schools usually have all A's. 60% don't get in. Therefore, when applying to very competitive colleges, ALWAYS have a plan B. 15
  • 36. Top 5 Schools Wiss seniors go to: 1. Montgomery County Community College 2. Temple 3. Penn State (main campus and satellites) 4. Pitt 5. Drexel 16
  • 41. 1. This is a process... BE PROACTIVE! 2. This all takes time... GET STARTED EARLY! 3. The resources exist... USE THEM! 4. There are a lot of options.... CHOOSE A SCHOOL THAT FITS!
  • 42. 1. This is a process... BE PROACTIVE! 2. This all takes time... GET STARTED EARLY! 3. The resources exist... USE THEM! 4. There are a lot of options.... CHOOSE A SCHOOL THAT FITS!
  • 43. AND FINALLY... 1. This is a process... BE PROACTIVE! 2. This all takes time... GET STARTED EARLY! 3. The resources exist... USE THEM! 4. There are a lot of options.... CHOOSE A SCHOOL THAT FITS!