How HCI Forms the Simplest Foundation for Hybrid Cloud And Composable Infrastructure Strategies
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How HCI Forms the Simplest
Foundation for Hybrid Cloud
And Composable Infrastructure
A discussion on how IT operators are seeking increased automation, built-in intelligence, and
robust security as they look for turnkey appliance approaches for both cloud and traditional
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Dana Gardner: Hello, and welcome to the next edition of the BriefingsDirect Voice of
the Innovator podcast series. I’m Dana Gardner, Principal Analyst at Interarbor
Solutions, your host and moderator for this ongoing discussion on the latest insights into
hybrid cloud and hyperconverged infrastructure (HCI) strategies.
Speed to business value and simplicity in deployments have been top drivers of the
steady growth around HCI solutions. IT operators are now looking to increased
automation, built-in intelligence, and robust security as they seek such turnkey appliance
approaches for both cloud and traditional workloads.
Stay with us now as we examine the rapidly evolving HCI innovation landscape, which is
being shaped just as much by composability, partnerships, and economics, as it is new
Here to help us learn more about the next chapter of
automated and integrated IT infrastructure solutions is
Thomas Goepel, Chief Technologist for
Hyperconverged Infrastructure at Hewlett Packard
Enterprise (HPE). Welcome, Thomas.
Thomas Goepel: Thank you for having me.
Gardner: Thomas, what are the top drivers now for HCI
as a business tool? What’s driving the market now, and
how has that changed from a few years ago?
Goepel: HCI has gone through a really big
transformation in the last few years. When I look at how
it originally started, it was literally people looking for a better way of building virtual
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desktop infrastructure (VDI) solutions. They wanted to combine servers and storage in a
single device and make it easier to operate.
What I am seeing now is HCI spreading throughout
datacenters and becoming one of the core elements
of a lot of the datacenters around the world. The use
cases have significantly been expanded. It started
out with VDI, but now people are running all kinds of
business applications on HCI -- all the way to critical
databases like SAP HANA.
Gardner: People are using HCI in new ways. They are innovating in the market, and
that often means they do things with HCI that were not necessarily anticipated. Do you
see that happening with HCI?
Ease of use encourages HCI expansion
Goepel: Yes, it’s happened with HCI quite a bit. The original use cases were very
much focused on VDI and end-user computing. It was just a convenient way of having a
platform for all of your virtual desktops and an easy way of managing them.
But people saw that ease of management can actually be expanded into other use
cases. They then began to bring in some core business applications, such as Microsoft
Exchange or SharePoint, logged onto the platform and saw there are more and more
things they can put on there, and gain the entire simplicity that hyperconverged brings to
operating in this environment.
You no longer had to build a separate server farm, separate storage farm, or even
manage your network independently. You could now do all of that from a single
interface, a single-entry point, and gain a single point of management. Then people said,
“Well, this ease makes it so beneficial for me, why don’t we bring the other things in
here?” And then we saw it spread out in the data centers.
What we now have is people saying, “Hey, let me take this a step further. If I have
remote offices, branch offices, or edge use-cases where I also need compute resources,
why not try to take HCI there? Because typically on the edge I don’t even have system
administrators, so I can take this entire simplicity down to this point, too.”
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And the nice thing with hyperconvergence is that -- at least in the HPE version of
hyperconvergence, which is HPE SimpliVity -- it’s not only simple to manage, it has also
built in all of the enterprise features such as high availability and data efficiency, so it
makes it really a robust solution. It has come a very long way on this journey.
HCI is spreading throughout
datacenters and becoming
one of the core elements of
a lot of the datacenters
around the world.
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Gardner: Thomas, you mentioned the role of HCI at the edge gaining traction and
innovation. What’s a typical use case for this sort of microdata center at the edge? How
does that work?
Losing weight with HCI wins the race
Goepel: Let me give you a really good example of a super-fast-paced industry:
Formula One car racing. It really illustrates how edge is having an impact -- and also
how this has a business impact.
One of our customers, Aston Martin Red Bull Racing, has been very successful in
Formula One racing. The rules of the International Automobile Federation (FIA), the
governing board of Formula One racing, say that each race team can only bring a
certain amount of weight to a racetrack during the races.
This is obviously a high-tech race. They are adjusting the car during the race, lap by lap,
making adjustments based on the real-time performance of the car to get the last inch
possible out of the car to win that race. All of these cars are very close to each other
from a performance perspective.
Traditionally, they shipped racks and racks of IT gear to the racetrack to calculate the
performance of the car and make adjustments during the race. They have now replaced
all of these racks with HPE SimpliVity HCI gear and significantly reduced the amount of
gear. It means having significantly less weight to bring to the racetrack.
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A Pivotal Role at Red Bull Racing
There are two benefits. First, reducing the weight of the IT gear allows them to bring
additional things to the racetrack because what counts is the total weight – and that
includes the car, spare parts, people, equipment -- everything. There is a certain
By taking that weight out, having less IT equipment on the racetrack, the HCI allows
them to bring extra personnel and spare parts. They can perform better in the races.
The other benefit is that HCI performs significantly better than traditional IT
infrastructure. They can now make adjustments within one lap of the race versus before,
when it took them three laps before they could make adjustments to the car.
This is a huge competitive advantage. When you look at the results, they are doing great
when it comes to Formula One racing, especially for being a smaller team compared to
the big teams out there.
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From that perspective, at the edge, HCI is
making some big improvements, not only
in a high-end industry like Formula One
racing, but in all kinds of other industries,
including manufacturing and retail. They
are seeing similar benefits.
Gardner: I wrote a research paper about four years ago, Thomas, that laid out the case
that HCI will become a popular on-ramp to private clouds and ultimately hybrid cloud.
Was I ahead of my time?
HCI on-ramp to the clouds
Goepel: Yes, I think you were a little bit ahead of your time. But you were also a
visionary to lay out that groundwork. When you look at the industry, hyperconvergence is
a fast-growing industry segment. When it comes to server and data center infrastructure,
HCI has the highest growth rate across the entire IT industry.
What you were foreseeing four years ago is exactly what we now have, and I don’t see
an end anytime soon. HCI continues to grow as people discover new use cases. The
edge is one new element, but we are just scratching the surface.
Edge use cases are a fascinating new world in general -- from such distributed
environments as smart cities and smart manufacturing. We are just starting to get into
this world. There’s a huge opportunity for innovation and this will become an attractive
area for hyperconvergence.
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Gardner: How does HCI innovation align with other innovations at HPE around
automation, composability, and intelligence derived to make IT behave as total
solutions? Is there a sense that the whole is greater than the sum of the parts?
HCI innovations prevent problems
Goepel: Absolutely there is. We have leveraged a lot of innovation in the broader HPE
ecosystem, including the latest generation of the ProLiant DL380 Server, the most
secure server in the industry. All of these elements flew into the HPE SimpliVity HCI
At the edge, HCI is making some big
improvements, not only in a high-end
industry like Formula One racing, but
in all kinds of other industries,
including manufacturing and retail.
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But we are not stopping there. A lot of other innovations in the HPE ecosystem are being
brought into hyperconvergence. A perfect example is HPE InfoSight, a management
platform that allows you to operate your infrastructure better by understanding what’s
going on in a very efficient way. It uses artificial intelligence (AI) to detect when
something is going wrong in your IT environment so you can proactively take action and
don’t end up with a disaster.
HPE InfoSight originally started out in storage, but we are now taking it into the full HPE
SimpliVity HCI ecosystem. It’s not just a support portal, it gives you intelligence to
understand what’s going on before you run into problems. Those problems can be
solved so your environment keeps running at top performance. You’ll have what you
need to run any mission-critical business on HCI.
More and more of these innovations in our ecosystem will be brought into the
hyperconverged world. Another example is around composability. We have been
developing a lot of platform capabilities around composability and we are now bringing
HPE SimpliVity and composability together. This allows customers to actually change
the infrastructure’s personality depending on the workload, including bringing on HPE
SimpliVity. You can get the best of these two worlds.
This leads to building a private cloud environment that can be easily connected to a
public cloud or clouds. You will ultimately build out a hybrid IT environment in such a
way that your private cloud environment, or your on-premise environment, runs in the
most optimized way for your business and for your specific needs as a company.
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For Datacenters at the Edge
Gardner: You are also opening up that HCI ecosystem with new partners. Tell us how
innovation around hyperconverged is broadening and making it more ecumenical for the
IT operations consumer.
Welcome to the hybrid world
Goepel: HPE has always been an open player. We never believed in locking down an
environment or making it proprietary and basically locking out everyone else. We have
always been a company that listens to what our customers want, what our customers
need, and then give them the best solution.
Now, customers are looking to run their HCI environment on HPE equipment and
infrastructure because they know that this is reliable infrastructure. It is working, and
they feel comfortable with it, and they trust it. But we also have customers who say,
“Hey, you know, I want to run this piece of software or that solution on this HPE
environment. Can you make sure this runs and works perfectly?”
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We are in a hybrid world. And in a
hybrid world there is not a single
vendor that can cover the entire hybrid
market. We need to innovate in such a
way that we allow an ecosystem of
partners to all come together and work
collaboratively and jointly to provide
We have recently announced new partnerships with other software vendors, and that
includes HPE GreenLake Flex Capacity. With that, instead of doing big, upfront
investments on equipment, you can do it in a more innovative way financially. It brings
about the solution that solves the customers’ real problems, rather than locking the
customer into some certain infrastructure.
Flexibility improves performance
Gardner: You are broadening the idea of making something consumable when you
innovate, not only around the technology and the partnerships, but also the economic
model, the consumption model. Tell us more about how HPE GreenLake Flex Capacity
and acquiring a turnkey HPE SimpliVity HCI solution can accelerate value when you
consume it, not as a capital expense, but as an operating cost affair.
Goepel: No industry is 100 percent predictable, at least I haven’t seen it, and I haven’t
found it. Not even the most conservative government institution that has a five-year plan
is predictable. There are always factors that will disrupt that predictability plan, and you
have to react to that.
Traditionally, what we have done in the industry is oversized our environments to
calculate for anticipated growth over five years -- and then add another 25 percent on
top of it, and then another 10 percent cover on top of that. Hopefully we did not
undersize the environment once we get to the end of the life of the equipment.
That is a lot of capital you are investing into something that just sits there and has no
value, no use, and just basically stands around, and you take off of your books in the
Now, HPE GreenLake gives you a flexible-capacity model. You only pay literally for what
you consume. If you grow faster than you anticipated, you just use more. If you grow
slower, you use less. If you have an extremely successful business -- but then
something in the economic model changes and your business doesn’t perform as you
have anticipated -- then you can reduce your spending. That flexibility better supports
We need to innovate in such a way
that we allow an ecosystem of
partners to all come together and
work collaboratively and jointly to
provide new solutions.
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We are ultimately doing IT to help our businesses to perform better. IT shouldn't be a
burden that slows you down, it should be an accelerator. By having a flexible financial
model, you get exactly that. HPE GreenLake allows you to scale up and scale down your
environment based on your business needs with the right financial benefits behind it.
Gardner: There is such a thing as too much of a good thing. And I suppose that also
applies to innovation. If you are doing so many new and interesting things -- allowing for
hybrid models to accelerate and employing new economic models -- sometimes things
can spin out of control.
But you can also innovate around management to prevent that from happening. How
does management innovation fit into these other aspects of a solution, to keep it from
getting out of control?
Checks and balances extend manageability
Goepel: You bring up a really good point. One of the things we have learned as an
industry is that things can spin out of control very quickly. And for me, the best example
is when I go back two years when people said, “I need to go to the cloud because that is
going to save my world. It’s going to reduce my costs, and it's going to be the perfect
solution for me.”
What happened is people went all-in for the cloud and every developer and IT person
heard, “Hey, if you need a virtual machine just get it on whatever your favorite cloud
provider is. Go for it.” People very quickly learned that this means exploding their costs.
There was no control, no checks and balances.
On both the HCI and general IT side, we have learned from that initial mistake in the
public cloud and have put the right checks and balances in place. HPE OneView is our
infrastructure management platform that allows the system administrator to operate the
infrastructure from a single-entry point or single point of view.
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Without Sacrificing Quality
That gives you a very simple way of managing and plays along with the way HCI is
operated -- from a single point of view. You don't have five consoles or five screens, you
literally have one screen you operate from.
You need to have a common way of managing checks and balances in any environment.
You don't want the end user or every developer to go in there and just randomly create
virtual machines, because then your HCI environment quickly runs out of resources, too.
You need to have the right access controls so that only people that have the right
justification can do that, but it still needs to happen quickly. We are in a world where a
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developer doesn’t want to wait three days to get a virtual machine. If he is working on
something, he needs the virtual machine now -- not in a week or in two days.
Similarly, when it comes to a hybrid environment -- when we bring together the private
cloud and the public cloud -- we want a consistent view across both worlds. So this is
where HPE OneSphere comes in. HPE OneSphere is a cloud management platform that
manages hybrid clouds, so private and public clouds.
It allows you to gain a holistic
view of what resources you are
consuming, what's the cost of
these resources, and how you
can best distribute workloads
between the public and private
clouds in the most efficient way. It
is about managing performance,
availability, and cost. You can put
in place the right control mechanisms to curb rogue spending, and control how much is
being consumed and where.
Gardner: From all of these advancements, Thomas, have you made any personal
observations about the nature of innovation? What is it about innovation that works?
What do you need to put in place to prevent it from becoming a negative? What is it
about innovation that is a force-multiplier from your vantage point?
Faster is better
Goepel: The biggest observation I have is that innovation is happening faster and
faster. In the past, it took quite a while to get innovation out there. Now it is happening so
fast that one innovation comes, then the next one just basically runs over it, and we are
taking advantage of it, too. This is just the nature of the world we are living in; everything
is moving much faster.
There are obviously some really great benefits from the innovation we are seeing. We
have talked about a few of them, like AI and how HCI is being used in edge use-cases.
In manufacturing, hospitals, and these kinds of environments, you can now do things in
better and more efficient ways. That's also helping on the business side.
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But there’s also the human factor, because innovation makes things easier for us or
makes it better for us to operate. A perfect example is in hospitals, where we can
provide the right compute power and intelligence to make sure patients get the right
[HPE OneSphere] allows you to gain a
holistic view of what resources you are
consuming, what’s the cost of these
resources, and how you can best distribute
workloads between the public and private
clouds in the most efficient way.
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medication. It is controlled in a good way, rather than just somebody writing on a piece
of paper and hoping the next person can read it. You can now do all of these things
electronically, with the right digital intelligence to ensure that you are actually curing the
I think we will see more and more of these types of examples happening and bringing
compute power to the edge. That is a huge opportunity, and there is a lot of innovation in
the next two to three years, specifically in this segment, and that will impact everyone’s
life in a positive way.
Gardner: Speaking of impacting people's lives, I have observed that the IT operator is
being greatly impacted by innovation. The very nature of their job is changing. For
example, I recently spoke with Gary Thome, CTO for Composable Cloud at HPE, and he
said that composability allows for the actual consumers of applications to compose their
own supporting infrastructure.
Because of ease, automation, and intelligence, we don’t necessarily need to go to IT to
say, “Set up XYZ infrastructure with these requirements.” Using composablity, we can
move innovation to the very people who are in the most advantageous position to define
what it is they need.
Thomas, how do you see innovation impacting the very definition of what IT people do?
No more mundane tasks
Goepel: This is a very positive impact, and I will give you a really good example. I
spend a lot of time talking to customers and to a lot of IT people out there. And I have
never encountered a single systems administrator in this industry who comes to work in
the morning and says, “You know, I am so happy that I am here this morning so I can do
a backup of my environment. It’s going to take me four hours, and I am going to be the
happiest person in the world if the backup goes through.” Nobody wants to do this.
Nobody goes to work in the morning and says, “You know, I really hope I get a hard
problem to solve, like my network crashes and I am going to be the hero in solving the
problem, or by making a configuration change in my virtual environment.”
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These are boring tasks that nobody is looking for, but we have to do it because we don't
have the right automation in our environments. We don't have the right management
tools in our environment. We put a lot of boring tasks to our administrators and let them
do them. They are mundane and they don't really look forward to them.
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Innovation takes these burdens away from the systems administrator and frees up their
time to do things that are not only more interesting, but also add to the bottom line of the
company. They can better help drive the businesses and spend IT resources on
something that makes the difference for the company’s bottom line.
Ultimately, you don’t want to be the one watching backups going through or restoring
files. You want this to be automatic, with a couple of clicks, and then you spend your
time on something more interesting.
Every systems administrator I talk to really likes the new ways. I haven't seen anyone
coming back to me and saying, “Hey, can you take this automation away and all this
hyperconvergence away? I want to go back to the old way and do things manually so I
know how to spend my eight hours of the day.” People have much more to do with the
hours they have. This is just freeing them up to focus on the things that add value.
HCI to make IT life easier and easier
Gardner: Before we close out, Thomas, how about some forward-looking thoughts
about what innovation is going to bring next to HCI? We talked about the edge and
intelligence, but is there more? What are we going to be talking about when it comes to
innovation in two years in the HCI space?
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Goepel: I touched on the edge. I think there will be a lot of things happening across the
entire edge space, where HCI will clearly be able to make a difference. We will take
advantage of the capabilities that HCI brings in all these segments -- and it will actually
drive innovation outside of the hyperconverged world, but by being enabled by HCI.
But there are a couple of other things to look at. Self-healing using AI in IT
troubleshooting, I think, will become a big innovation point in the HCI industry. What we
are doing with HPE InfoSight is a start, but there is much more to come. This will
continue to make the life of the systems administrator easier.
Ideally, we want HCI as a platform to be
almost invisible to the end user because
they shouldn't care about the
infrastructure. It will behave like a cloud,
but just be on-premises and private, and
in a better, more controlled way.
The next element of innovation you will see is HCI acting very similar to a cloud
environment. And some of the first steps with that are what we are doing around
Ideally, we want HCI as a platform to
be almost invisible to the end user
because they shouldn’t care about
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composability. This will drive forward to where you change the personality of the
infrastructure depending on the workload needed. It becomes a huge pool of resources.
And if you need to look like a bare-metal server, or a virtual server -- a big one or a small
one -- you can just change it and this will be all software controlled. I think that
innovation element will then enable a lot of other innovations on top of it.
If you take these three elements -- AI, composability of the infrastructure, and driving
that into the edge use cases -- that will enable a lot of business innovation. It’s like the
three legs of a stool. And that will help us drive even further innovation.
Gardner: I’m afraid we will have to leave it there. You have been exploring the speed to
business value and simplicity benefits from the latest HCI solutions. And we have
learned how built-in intelligence, flexible economic models, and a drive to the edge are
advancing the nature and value of composable IT infrastructure and hyperconvergence
So please join me in thanking our guest, Thomas Goepel, Chief Technologist for
Hyperconverged Infrastructure at Hewlett Packard Enterprise. Thank you so much,
And a big thank you as well to our audience for joining this sponsored BriefingsDirect
Voice of the Innovator hybrid IT and composable infrastructure strategies interview.
I’m Dana Gardner, Principal Analyst at Interarbor Solutions, your host for this ongoing
series of Hewlett Packard Enterprise-sponsored discussions. Thanks again for listening.
Please pass this along to your IT community, and do come back next time.
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