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Dynaudio passa 3c build

  1. 1. Dynaudio installation in Passat 3CBased on Roy’s descriptions (http://petzold.serveftp.net/Partycentral/Forum/forum3/viewforum.php?f=6)I’ve now also completed my installation of the Dynaudio system in my Passat. I’m very pleased with both thegreat sound and the fact that it has only cost me approx. €800 (amplifier and speakers purchased on eBay)compared to the €4000 it cost on the Danish Passat extras list . Thanks Roy.The entire project has lasted me about 30 hours or so, and I find the result well worth it. But I don’t thinkthis is a one day project to anybody, so be prepared to spend some hours pulling your car apart if you starton this.My initial Car configuration was as follows: - Passat 2006 2.0 TDI Variant Comfortline. - RCD300 radio and 8 VW speakers (standard in Denmark) - Antenna and 4 speaker wires (one signal for each door)As head unit I’ve built in a MFD2 DVD instead of the RCD300, and while at it, I also built in a Nokia CK7Whands-free unit.Since my car already had the antenna built in, I didn’t need to dismantle the C-column or the rear inside ofthe car. I did however have to dismantle the following: - All 4 door covers. - Lower B column cover. - Lower and middle A column cover. - Side entry covers. - Foot well side and top covers. - Radio coverframe. - Climate Control coverframe - Storage drawer below the headlights switchI managed to get all the wiring fitted without removing the glove compartment or the driver’s seat asdescribed by Roy. Depending on how comfortable you are with removing the seat and glove compartment,you may find that easier. Choose what suit you best.Once completed, the result should be this installation:
  2. 2. Installation of antennaIf you don’t have the antenna installed you have install the two antenna amplifiers (3C9 035 552 A = right &3C9 035 552 D = left) in the C-column and fit the antenna cables (2x 000 098 657) along the sides of theunder the side entry covers. I didn’t have to do this, as I had the antenna amplifiers and cables fitted fromthe factory.Replacing the Speakers in the doorsI started out by replacing the speakers in the doors one door at a time. For each door, a plastic cover in thedoor handled must be withdrawn to reveal the screws fixing the cover to the door frame. Removing thosescrews and the ones at the bottom, leaves the door covers to be pulled from the door frame (gently, but withsome force).I had all 8 standard VW speakers fitted from the factory (the additional 2 speakers in the Dynaudio solutionare midrange speakers fitted in the same holes as the front bass speakers). To remove these, I had tocarefully drill out the rivets to remove the speakers. With the speakers removed, I could proceed with addingthe need wiring for the new speakers. I was able to reuse the plugs from the original speakers and theoriginal single set of wires in each door by cutting the wires and connecting them with the new wires.
  3. 3. To fit the wires in the door-connector, you have to disconnect the wire coming from the A or B column andretract the plug into the door and out through the hole where the speakers were removed. When insertingthe needed connectors into the plug make sure to make a note of which positions in the plug you have used.
  4. 4. Once the wires are in place make sure to tape them up with isolating tape, both to protect them from waterin the doors and keep the wires from getting in the way of the windows when lowering them.One thing to remember: Don’t install the new speakers until you have all the new wiring in the door ready.You need the access to the interior of the door when installing the new wires.With the wiring in the door completed, you can fix the speakers in the holes using 4.8 mm x 30 mm poprivets. Since some of the rivets have to be fixed with very little space to the sides of the speaker, I had topurchase a new pop-rivet tool with a head that could be turned horizontally as well as vertically.
  5. 5. Finally connect the plugs in the loudspeakers and fit door covers in the reverse order of the removal.Cabling the interior of the carHaving completed and reassembled the doors, the plugs in the A/B columns had to be equipped with theneeded connectors and all the speaker wiring had to be led to the amplifier position under the drivers (left)seat. I chose not to route the cables under the seats, since I didn’t want to dismantle the seats, and instead Irouted all cabling from the right side of the car along the side of the car to the dashboard and back down theleft side to the amplifier position. I used 1.5 mm single conductor wire for the speakers.When crossing the wires from the right side of the car to the left side of the car (where the amplifier sits) Iremoved the top foot well covers, and fixed the cabling with strips. Be careful when crossing the driver’s footwell not to put the wires in positions where they can obstruct the free movement of the pedals.As suggested by Roy, I drew the power from the left (driver side) interior fuse box. Using a multimeter, Ifound a free position able to connect to constant 12V and added a connector and a 30A fuse. I found aGround connector at the bottom of the A column, and routed both 12V and Ground to the amplifier.Remember to disconnect the (-) from the battery under the hood before doing this part of the installation.
  6. 6. If you are looking to install a MFD2 at the same time, I positioned the GPS under the topside left dashboardusing the access to the underside of the dashboard from the removed storage drawer below the headlightsswitch. This keeps the antenna hidden and the reception has been perfect so far.The 4 signals from the head unit (Front left, Front right, Rear left, Rear right), CAN High and CAN low I tookfrom the radio connector behind the radio, and routed the wires through the left foot well to the amplifier.From the CAN signals I used shielded LIYCY 2x0,34 wire (shielding not connected).In Roys installation, he has routed the cabling under the seats and across the middle column. Choose whatsuit you best.Connecting the amplifierHaving routed all the wires to the left side of the drivers seat, I was ready to connect everything to theamplifier. In order to install the actual amplifier the amplifiers bracket has to be screwed into the floor carpetunder the drivers seat, and a hole in the carpet has to be cut at the left side of the bracket to route the wiresto the connectors. Since my (original VW) floormat in the drivers foot well was longer than the one in Roysphotos, I had the cut it using a box-cutter in order for it not to overlap the amplifier bracket.
  7. 7. Before starting to connect the amplifier connectors, I double checked each signal and speaker wire byconnecting a signal to all speakers one by one and checking that sound could be heard from that speaker.Since I was reluctant to remove the seat I managed to route all the wires from the left side of the vehicle tothe hole by the amplifier bracket, using the hole underneath the plastic cover by the driver’s seat tomanipulate the wires.
  8. 8. Once all the wires were inside the amplifier bracket, I connected the wires to the multi-connectors accordingto the pin-out below, plugged in the multi-pin connectors and turned on the funky music!!No further work is needed, and in particular no reprogramming using VAG-COM is required.And just to repeat Roys warning: If you decide to try this installation, it is at own risk. This is not a projectthat is completed in an afternoon, and there is a chance of breaking car interiors, cables, plugs and otheressentials.A Picture of my car completed:
  9. 9. A Picture of Roys car completed:
  10. 10. Parts list1. Dynaudio System- 1x 3C0 035 456 A = Amplifier- 2x 3C0 035 454 B = Midrange- /Bass speaker front- 2x 3C0 035 453 B = Bass speaker rear- 2x 3C0 035 411 D = Treble speaker front (without the triangle housing)- 2x 3C0 035 411 E = Treble speaker rear (without the door handle housing)- 1x 1K0 035 883 = Amplifier bracket2. Radio accessories if no radio from factory- 2x 000 098 657 = Antenna cable- 1x 3C9 035 552 A = Antenna amplifier right- 1x 3C9 035 552 D = Antenna amplifier left- 2x N 013 969 21 = Bolt for fixing antenna amplifiers- 1x 3B7 035 447 = Speaker connector for Quadlock Connector3. Connectors if no speakers from factory- 4x 1J0 972 704 = Connector housing for Midrange- / Bass front & rear- 2x 3B0 972 712 = Connector housing for Treble front- 2x 1J0 972 723 = Connector housing for Treble rear3. Connectors- 1x 1J0 962 624 A = Connector 24pol. at amplifier (grey)- 1x 1Jo 962 623 B = Connector 23pol. at amplifier (green)- 60x N 103 358 07 = Connector elements for Connector- 25x N 103 381 05 = Connector elements for Connector- 50x N 906 844 05 = Connector elements for Connector- 25x N 103 190 05 = Connector elements for Connector4. Miscellaneous- 1x N 017 131 15 = Fuse 30A- 1x 000 979 306 = Connector for fuse box
  11. 11. Connector pin-outs1. AmplifierMulti-pin harness connector A, 24-pin (grey)1 = Treble speaker rear left, plus2 = Bass speaker rear right, minus3 = Bass speaker rear right, plus4 = Bass speaker rear left, plus5 = Treble speaker rear right, minus6 = Treble speaker rear right, plus7 = Treble speaker rear left, minus8 = Bass speaker front left, minus9 = Bass speaker front left, plus10 = Bass speaker rear left, minus11 = Midrange speaker front right, minus12 = Midrange speaker front right, plus13 = unused14 = Audio signal in, rear left, minus15 = Audio signal in, rear left, plus16 = unused17 = Audio signal in, rear right, minus18 = Audio signal in, rear right, plus19 = Control in (optional) - unused in my installation20 = Audio signal in, front left, minus21 = Audio signal in, front left, plus22 = unused23 = Audio signal in, front right, minus24 = Audio signal in, front right, plusMulti-pin harness connector B, 23-pin (green)1 = CAN, low2 = Midrange speaker front left, minus3 = Midrange speaker front left, plus4 = CAN, high
  12. 12. 5 = unused6 = Treble speaker front left, minus7 = unused8 = unused9 = Treble speaker front left, plus10 = unused11 = Bass speaker front right, plus12 = Bass speaker front right, minus13 = unused14 = unused15 = Treble speaker front right, plus16 = Voltage, Ground17 = unused18 = Treble speaker front right, minus19 = Voltage, Ground20 = Voltage, plus 12V21 = Voltage, plus 12V22 = Voltage, Ground23 = Voltage, plus 12V2. RadioMulti-pin harness connector 1, 8-pin / Speaker Out1 = Speaker rear right, plus2 = Speaker front right, plus3 = Speaker front left, plus4 = Speaker rear left, plus5 = Speaker rear right, minus
  13. 13. 6 = Speaker front right, minus7 = Speaker front left, minus8 = Speaker rear left, minusMulti-pin harness connector 2, 8-pin / Voltage, CAN-Bus, Telephone mute9 = Can High10 = Can Low11 = Telephone mute12 = Ground13 = unused14 = unused15 = 12V Plus16 = SAFE3. SpeakersMidrange- /Bass speaker front1 = Bass minus3 = Bass plus2 = Midrange minus4 = Midrange plusTreble speaker front1 = Treble plus2 = Treble minusBass speaker rear1 = Bass plus3 = Bass minusTreble speaker rear1 = Treble plus2 = Treble minus
  14. 14. Overview: Connecting the amplifier
  15. 15. Passat Wiring Diagram No. 73 / 1Radio - Premium Sound System, Radio/Navigation System RNS MFD2-DVD, Dynaudio, Satellite Radio, CD Changerfrom May 2005Note:Information for♦ Relay and fuse arrangements♦ Connector arrangements♦ Control Modules and Relays♦ Ground connections→ Component LocationsInformation for♦ Troubleshooting Procedures→ Guided Fault Finding using VAS 5051 / 5052 Edition 04/2005
  16. 16. Passat Wiring Diagram No. 73 / 2 Power Supply for Radio/Radio/Navigation Display Control Module, CD Changer, Antenna Connection GPS J 519 J412 Operating Electronics and Telephone Control Module J503 Radio/Navigation Display Control Module J519 Vehicle Electrical System Control Module R Radio R1 Antenna Connection R36 Telephone Transceiver T12i /12 R41 CD Changer SB19 R36 / J 412 R36 / J 412 R36 / J 412 SB19 Fuse 19 (on fuse panel B) T54/16 T54/9 T54/8 T8s 8-Pin Connector, black T12f 12-Pin Connector, near CD changer 1,0 1,5 0,5 0,35 0,35 T12i 12-Pin Connector 62 65 gr ro/ge ws/ro ws bl T12j 12-Pin Connector T12l 12-Pin ConnectorB340 B151 HF T54 54-Pin Connector ✱✱ 1,0 370 Ground Connection 5 (in main wiring harness) gr 1,5 1,0 ro/ge ro/ge T8s T8s T8s T12l T12l 610 Ground Connection (Audio) (under center console, front) /15 /16 /11 /6 /12 GPS R1 AM/FM R1 B151 Plus Connection 3 (30a) (in interior wiring harness) T12j T12j T12j T12j T12j T12j T12j T12j T8s /11 /4 /6 /12 /9 /10 /2 /8 /12 R / J 503 B340 Connection 1 (58d) (in main wiring harness) 2,5 brB341 370 B341 Connection 2 (58d) (in main wiring harness) * Only vehicles with CD changer preparation or external CD 0,5 0,35 ✱ 0,5 ✱ 0,35 ✱ 0,35 ✱ 0,35 ✱ 0,5 ✱ 0,35 ✱ 0,35 ✱ 0,35 ✱ 2,5 0,5 gr ✱ bl ro/ws gn ge bl ws/ge sw gr sw br br changer ** Only models with Navigation System T12f T12f T12f T12f T12f T12f T12f T12f T12f T12f 18 /12 /1 /6 /4 /2 /7 /8 /9 /10 /3 ws = white R41 sw = black ro = red br = brown gn = green bl = blue gr = grey 610 li = lilac ge = yellow 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 97-94414 or = orange rs = pink Edition 04/2005
  17. 17. Passat Wiring Diagram No. 73 / 3 Power Supply Amplifier, Radio/ Radio/Navigation Display Control Module, Digital Satellite Radio, Antenna Connection J 519 J503 Radio/Navigation Display Control Module J519 Vehicle Electrical System Control Module J533 Data Bus On Board Diagnostic Interface R Radio R1 Antenna Connection 59 R12 Amplifier J 533 533J R190 Digital Satellite Radio SB 21 T20e/10 T20e/20 SB18 Fuse 18 (on fuse panel B) SAT R1 R190 T8p /1 T8p /2 SB21 Fuse 21 (on fuse panel B) 0,35 0,35 0,35 0,35 T8k 8-Pin Connector, brown or/li or/br or/br or/li T8m 8-Pin Connector T8m/2 T8m/1 T8p/6 T8p/5 T8p/7 B415 T8p 8-Pin Connector T8s 8-Pin Connector, black B421 T12j 12-Pin Connector 0,5 0,5 0,35 0,35 0,35 ro/sw br li bl ws 0,35 0,35 T20e 20-Pin Connector or/li or/br T23 23-Pin Connector 12 T12j T12j T12j T8s/9 T8s/10 T24 24-Pin Connector /1 /3 /7 can-h can-l 366 Ground Connection 1 (in main wiring harness) R / J 503 T8k/ 8 T8k/ 4 T8k/ 5 T8k/ 1 T8k/ 7 T8k/ 3 T8k/ 6 T8k/ 2 610 Ground Connection (Audio) (under center console, front) SB 18 B219 Plus Connection 4 (30a) (in interior wiring harness) Infotainment CAN-Bus High Connection 1 (in main wiring B415 harness) 4,0 0,5 0,5 0,5 0,5 0,5 0,5 0,5 0,5 0,35 0,35 ro br sw sw gn sw ws sw ge or/br or/li Infotainment CAN-Bus Low Connection 1 (in main wiring B421 harness)B219 1,0 1,0 2,5 ro ro ro T23 T23 T23 T24 T24 T24 T24 T24 T24 T24 T24 T23 T23 /20 /21 /23 /14 /15 /17 /18 /20 /21 /23 /24 /1 /4 T23 T23 T23 ws = white /16 /19 /22 R12 sw = black 1,0 1,0 2,5 ro = red br br br br = brown gn = green 366 bl = blue 6,0 gr = grey br 610 li = lilac 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 ge = yellow 97-94415 or = orange rs = pink Edition 04/2005
  18. 18. Passat Wiring Diagram No. 73 / 4 Treble Speaker, Midrange Speaker and Left and Right Front Bass Speaker, Amplifier J519 Vehicle Electrical System Control Module J 519 R12 Amplifier R20 Left Front Treble Speaker R21 Left Front Bass Speaker R22 Right Front Treble Speaker R23 Right Front Bass Speaker R103 Left Front Midrange Speaker R104 Right Front Midrange Speaker T2dv Double Connector T2dw Double Connector T4as 4-Pin Connector T4at 4-Pin Connector T23 23-Pin Connector T24 24-Pin Connector T28 28-Pin Connector, connector station A-pillar, right T28c 28-Pin Connector, connector station A-pillar, left R103 R21 R20 R104 R23 R22 T4as/2 T4as/4 T4as/1 T4as/3 T2dv/2 T2dv/1 T4at/2- T4at/4 T4at/1 T4at/3 T2dw/2 T2dw/1 - + - + - + + - + - + 1,0 1,0 1,5 1,5 1,0 1,0 1,0 1,0 1,5 1,5 1,0 1,0 br/bl bl br/bl ro/bl br/gr ro/gr br/sw bl/sw br/gn ro/gn br/sw ro/sw T28c T28c T28c T28c T28c T28c T28 T28 T28 T28 T28 T28 /26 /25 /24 /23 /28 /27 /26 /25 /24 /23 /28 /27 1,0 1,0 1,5 1,5 1,0 1,0 1,0 1,0 1,5 1,5 1,0 1,0 br/bl bl br/bl ro/bl br/gr ro/gr br/sw bl/sw br/gn ro/gn br/sw ro/sw T23/2 T23/3 T24/8 T24/9 T23/6 T23/9 T24/11 T24/12 T23/12 T23/11 T23/18 T23/15 - + - + - + - + - + - + ws = white R12 sw = black ro = red br = brown gn = green bl = blue gr = grey li = lilac ge = yellow 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 97-94410 or = orange rs = pink Edition 04/2005
  19. 19. Passat Wiring Diagram No. 73 / 5 Bass Speaker and Left and Right Rear Treble Speaker, Amplifier J519 Vehicle Electrical System Control Module J 519 R12 Amplifier R14 Left Rear Treble Speaker R15 Left Rear Bass Speaker R16 Right Rear Treble Speaker R17 Right Rear Bass Speaker T2dk Double Connector T2do Double Connector T4ai 4-Pin Connector R15 R14 R16 R17 T4am 4-Pin Connector T6bx 6-Pin Connector (In LR Door) T6by 6-Pin Connector, (In RR Door) T4ai/1- T4ai/3 T2dk/1 T2dk/2 T2do/1 T2do/2 T4am/1- T4am/3 T24 24-Pin Connector + + - + - + T28a 28-Pin Connector, connector station B-pillar, left T28b 28-Pin Connector, connector station B-pillar, right 1,0 1,0 1,0 1,0 bl/li ws/li bl/li ws/li T6bx T6bx T6by T6by /1 /2 /1 /2 1,5 1,5 1,0 1,0 1,0 1,0 1,5 1,5 br/ws ro/ws bl/li ws/li bl/gr ws/gr br/li ro/li T28a T28a T28a T28a T28b T28b T28b T28b /24 /23 /27 /28 /27 /28 /24 /23 1,5 1,5 1,0 1,0 1,0 1,0 1,5 1,5 br/ws ro/ws bl/li ws/li bl/gr ws/gr br/li ro/li T24/10 T24/4 T24/1 T24/7 T24/6 T24/5 T24/2 T24/3 - + + - + - - + ws = white R12 sw = black ro = red br = brown gn = green bl = blue gr = grey li = lilac 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 ge = yellow 97-94411 or = orange rs = pink Edition 04/2005
  20. 20. Passat Wiring Diagram No. 73 / 6 Antenna, Antenna Amplifier, FM Frequency Filter J9 Rear Window Defogger Relay J519 Vehicle Electrical System Control Module J 519 J9 R11 Antenna R24 Antenna Amplifier R50 Navigation System Antenna R93 Radio Antenna 2 R111 Antenna Amplifier 2 T10s R112 Antenna Amplifier 3 /1 R172 Satellite Tuner Antenna 2,5 R178 FM Frequency Filter (in negative wire) R50 ✱ R11 Z1 sw R179 FM Frequency Filter (in positive wire) T10s 10-Pin Connector, black Z1 Heated Rear Window 657 Ground Connection 1 (left, near rear window) 660 Ground Connection 2 (right, near rear window) R172 B569 Connection 36 (in main wiring harness) B569 R178 R179 * Only models with Navigation System 1,5 sw R112 R111 ✱ R24 SAT GPS AM/FM HF 1,5 sw 18 12 14 ws = white sw = black ro = red br = brown gn = green bl = blue gr = grey 660 657 li = lilac ge = yellow 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 97-94817 or = orange rs = pink Edition 04/2005

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